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Politics › Re: A Few Very Disturbing Questions. . . by Beaf(op): 5:32pm On Dec 27, 2009
honeric01:
Beaf, can i ask some questions? was this poll conducted online on they went to Nigeria to conduct it? who were the people that responded to this poll? was the poll answered by only Muslims or anyone from Nigeria? i have more questions, but answer this first.
You can find the answers to your questions at the links provided with the polls.
Politics › Re: A Few Very Disturbing Questions. . . by Beaf(op): 5:16pm On Dec 27, 2009
real4life:
I support you on the first point that education should be made compulsory, but true muslims and christians will never allow their religion to be made secondary to some man made laws.
The way forward is for religious scholars especially islamic scholars to stand up to their duties and condemn radicalism in all its ramifications.

But the main reason I challenged you on this thread is because of the emerging trend of equating the action of one or a few persons to a whole population of people, it is very wrong. I dont know where you are from, but I am almost sure most Southerners have at least one northern muslim friend who they admire for some of their qualities and vice versa. It will be better if we condemn people directly responsible for destroying our country instead of generalization.
If we are less sensitive, we will not see everything as "generalisation", it is only natural that fingers will be pointed at this time. How you react will tell if the fingers will lower themselves by tomorrow or point even more rigidly.

There is a huge problem that is getting worse as the years go by and hard truths need to be dealt with. There needs to be thought through and hard nosed strategies to deal with our religious issues. You think that "religious scholars especially islamic scholars" are the ones to carry the mantle of responsibilty, I think so too.
Where we differ is in the possibilty to subject them to the rules of the land, it has been done successfully in most countries, so why not in Nigeria? One of the major obstacles is that, corrupt politicians see religion as a way of holding the people captive to a higher force that they (politicians) can manipulate either directly or through proxies (eg, there are strong rumours about the purposes of Boko haram). It is an evil game that we should all see beyond, how much blood are we going to shed in battles for a being who is all powerful and doesn't require our effort (except we are creating that being ourselves)?
Other major obstacles to subjecting religion to the law are poverty, lack of opportunity, lack of security, lack of education etc. All can be tackled.
Politics › Re: A Few Very Disturbing Questions. . . by Beaf(op): 4:38pm On Dec 27, 2009
Are lack of education, despondency and poverty in the North responsible for this horrid state of affairs? If so what should be done?
I suggest two things.
[list]
[li]That education be raised as a national security issue[/li]
[li]That, in totally unmistakable terms all religion be made to adhere to the constituition[/li]
[li]The constituition alone and above everything, determines rights and priviledges in the country (ban sharia and jail the likes of evangelist Helen Ukpabio)[/li]
[/list]

A few very disturbing polls. . . (http://pewglobal.org/database/?indicator=20&mode=chart and http://pewglobal.org/database/?indicator=19&mode=chart)

Politics › Re: A Few Very Disturbing Questions. . . by Beaf(op): 4:04pm On Dec 27, 2009
real4life:
For a start lets know who has justified the attempted plane plot. If you can quote the post here of people supporting Umars plot then we may continue from there

If not then just close this thread and move on with your life
For some reason, I'm expecting that after reading the post below, you'll not be coming back. What are your true feelings?.

IT IS SUCH A VERY BAD NEWS THAT IT DID NOT WORK OUT FOR HIM, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE GUY IS NOT silly AND ALSO HE IS NOT A LOW LIFE naughty person AS YOU THINK AND MANY MORE ARE OUT THERE WILLING TO DO IT FREE OF CHARGE, HE LIVES IN THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSES IN LONDON, EACH FLAT ON THE STREET COSTS 4 MILLION POUNDS WHICH MEANS HE IS NOT BOKA-HARAM KNOWN TO CONSIST OF ILLITERATES AND LOW-LIFE PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE STAND UP FOR SAME REASON. HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN YOUR TIME TO LISTEN TO THE VIEWS OF THE SO CALLED TERRORIST OR YOU DECIDE TO LIVE ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE WESTERNS AND THEIR ALLIED MEDIA. THE PEOPLE HE IS TRYING TO FIGHT ENGINEERED THIS ATTACK THAT KILLED 1,400 PALESTINIANS IN THE GAZA STRIP MAINLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN http://www.vtjp.org/background/imagesgaza.php , THOUGH ISREAL CARRIED OUT THE ATTACKS BUT THE DEADLY WEAPONS USED WERE MADE AND SUPPLIED BY U.S, U.S DID NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT TILL DATE AND AS YOU KNOW ISREAL IS THE CLOSEST ALLIED TO THE U.S IN THE MIDDLE EAST, RIGHT NOW THERE IS A SHIP IN JORDAN TRYING TO BRING IN FOOD AND MEDICAL AIDS TO THE PALESTINIANS AFFECTED BY THE WAR BUT EGYPT DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO PASS THEIR BODERS DUE TO ISREALI PRESSURE NOT TO ALLOW THOSE ITEMS IN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY?, WHERE IS THE MERCIFUL U.S NOW?, WHO IS A WAR CRIMINAL/TERRORIST NOW? WHERE IS THE NICE SMILING FACE OF OBAMA NOW?

          ALSO THE MERCILESS DRONE ATTACKS ON CIVILIANS IN AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, IRAQ ,YEMEN AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD, CAN YOU JUST WAKE UP AND DECIDE TO TAKE REVENGE WHEN NOTING HAS BEEN DONE TO YOU OR YOUR MUSLIM BROTHERS?. I AM A CHRISTIAN BUT WHEN I GOT TO HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY, I KNEW THE TRUTH AND LIVED ON IT. HE WHOM YOU SEE AS A TERRORIST IS A HERO TO SOME PEOPLE. FIGHTING BACK BY THESE MEANS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THEIR VOICES HEARD AND THE ONLY WAY TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR HIS BROTHERS. HE MEANT ON ATTACKING THE U.S THAT IS WHY HE DID NOT DESIGNATE THE EXPLOSIVE IN AMSTERDAM OR ON AIR UNTIL ABOUT 20 MINS TO LAND IN DETRIOT, HE WANTED TO ATTACK ON U.S SOIL. DO NOT LABEL HIM A TERRORIST BECAUSE THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN TROOPS ARE OUT THERE KILLING CIVILIANS AND CALLING THEM CASUALTIES OF WAR. DAAMMMM IT.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371788.224.html#msg5192954
Politics › Re: A Few Very Disturbing Questions. . . by Beaf(op): 3:45pm On Dec 27, 2009
real4life:
Mr Beaf I think you are suffering from dementia, how old are you?
I thought we had left this behind yesterday? embarassed
If you have a point to make, please make it.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Beaf: 3:41pm On Dec 27, 2009
We are getting into another "tribal" war here.

I simply say, the following people have nothing at all to add to political discuss;

[size=14pt]Paroh Frey
Depilot
Becomerich
Tpia
*Jona
Mekusxx
Sjeezy8
Babapupa[/size]

Their posts are always foul mouthed, irritating, "tribal" or in the case of Paroh Frey and Depilot, even contain threats to other users safety (something that should concern the morderators very deeply, but there is no sign it does).
These people should be firmly banned and if they keep popping up, ban again and re-ban!
Politics › A Few Very Disturbing Questions. . . by Beaf(op): 3:00pm On Dec 27, 2009
We have had quite a few dangerous folk trying to justify the actions of the wretch, Abdulfarouk Umar Abdulmutallab with events that are external to Nigeria; this raises quite a few disturbing questions:

[list]
[li]Do events in the Netherlands, Israel, Palestine etc, have a diplomatic / strategic efect in Nigeria that they are dealt with in org.ies of violence and blood on the streets of Kano, Bauchi, Jos etc?[/li]
[li]If external events are important enough to cause pogroms in Nigeria; are events in foreign lands more important than lives at home?[/li]
[li]Are perpetrators of religious violence in Northen Nigeria first, extremist Muslims before they are Nigerians?[/li]
[li]Is extremist Islam more important than the Nigerian constituition, in other words; is there an extremist Islam definition of who is a true citizen that is opposite to what the constituition provides? Does this definition make the lives of non-extremists worthless?[/li]
[li]If the Almighty is really the one we worship, is he/she so weak that mere mortals are required to blow themselves and others up to fight the Almighty's wars?[/li]
[/list]
Politics › Re: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by Beaf: 2:27pm On Dec 27, 2009
Lagosboy:
These are exactly the kind of questions I have asked all along and someone calles me terrorist apologist.

He cooked it in the toilets which is hidden from anyone and went to the seat to blow it where everyone will see him , this is very foolish to me. Honestly i still smell a rat until the whole picture is clear.
Keep denying the obvious. The i.diot has confessed everything even before visiting Guantanamo and you're here stupidly making excuses for his barbaric actions. Are you muddled or something? angry
Politics › Re: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by Beaf: 2:16pm On Dec 27, 2009
ElRazur:
. . .
Now, all you apologist talking non-sense, I guess the truth is out in the open, only that none of you are no where to be found. I for once wish him the worst of all treatments possible. Like I said on my status on facebook ". . . . I hope the US of A hang him by his testicles"
. . .
. . .But his testicles were the only things he blew up (along with parts of his leg).

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Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 2:56am On Dec 27, 2009
SEFAGO:
It has been mentioned several times that they guy's mum is not a yemeni. Furthermore have you seen the guys picture? I have met people from Yemen include a half-black, half-yemen person and they dont look remotely similar to the guy with his thick african features.
I'm just hearing that for the first time. I must say I really wondered about his 100% black looks, but I have a 100% black looking friend who is half black, half white. So I thought his looks were one of those freak events.

Interesting.

@ciscostaz
Thank you for the kind advice.
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 2:49am On Dec 27, 2009
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371788.msg5192331#msg5192331 date=1261878322]they smelled an odor and heard popping sounds? huh

them sure no be say the guy dey pass gas? huh I watched a movie trailer where someone lighted up his farts oh- na one British American movie wey them just release.

anyway, I'm seriously happy he didnt blow up the plane and everyone's safe, like I mentioned before. Must have been a very scary experience. The man has to be crazy and brainwashed for sure.


But considering how I get harassed  for no reason at some of these international airports, I wonder how he was able to board a plane with a syringe, inflammable liquids and a cigarette lighter? huh

also, did he watch District 9 or something and got annoyed because I still dont understand how he got into al qeauda's clutches unless he read some inflammatory rhetoric on some websites.[/quote]His mum is from Yemen Al-Qaeda's new HQ, so he really didn't have far to look to be radicalised. If you recall there was a missile attack in Yemen some days ago that wiped out 20 of their top guns, maybe that added impetus as well.
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 2:39am On Dec 27, 2009
Sagamite:
Logic process of a foool. undecided

And when I tell your likes that your intelligence is below my feet, you get annoyed thinking I insulted you. grin

FOOL


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Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 2:31am On Dec 27, 2009

Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 2:19am On Dec 27, 2009
Sagamite:
Mo-ron, so you are posting your pix online?

Next time try and ensure your under-developed mind does not generalise. Instead be objective and apply some analysis, that is what intelligent minds like mine do.

FOOL


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Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 1:57am On Dec 27, 2009
Sagamite:
My analytical posts exposes my intelligence and it is way superior to your gutter upbringing that is demonstrated in your Northerners-hating and quick resort to generalisation.

FOOL


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Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 1:36am On Dec 27, 2009
Sagamite:
What you guys don't realise is that without my belligerence and ability to apply superior intellect to put-down people, this thread would not be what it is now. It would have degenirated into a tribal thread full of Hausa and Muslim bashing.

People are too thick and have a warped mentality.
You actually think you sound intelligent? shocked
People from the gutter have a way of talking that always reveals the gutter in them. Why haven't other threads degenerated?
Politics › Re: Detroit Terror Suspect: The Nigeria Connection (Time Magazine) by Beaf(op): 1:24am On Dec 27, 2009
4. The Nigeria Connection: Until now, Al Qaeda's operations in Africa have been concentrated in the east and north. But there have been some sporadic reports of increased Islamic extremism on the west coast. It's not clear whether Abdulmutallab was recruited in London or Nigeria, but if he made contact with al-Qaeda in his home country, then that opens up a new front in the fight against terrorism.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1950160,00.html#ixzz0aqORMiMC
Politics › Detroit Terror Suspect: The Nigeria Connection (Time Magazine) by Beaf(op): 12:43am On Dec 27, 2009
Report from the World renowned Time Magazine

[size=14pt]Detroit Terror Suspect: The Nigeria Connection[/size]
By Steven Gray / Detroit Saturday, Dec. 26, 2009

Who is Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab? Federal authorities say the man suspected of trying to detonate explosives on Northwest Flight 253 as it neared Detroit was a 23-year-old engineering student at University College London. They say he is a Nigerian citizen and he has reportedly said he was on a mission for al-Qaeda and that he had received instructions from Yemen. On Saturday, Abdulmutallab was charged with attempting to destroy the aircraft and with placing a destructive device on the plane. (Read "Nigeria Banker Fears Son is Alleged Plane Attacker"wink

While authorities caution that it is too early to conclude anything about the substance of Abdulmutallab's reported claims, Yemen has recently been at the focus of U.S. concerns about the expansion of al-Qaeda; and Nigeria is struggling with Islamist insurgencies.

The Nigerian connection is especially troubling because, if the al-Qaeda link is true, then the huge west African country, which is sharply divided between Muslims and Christians, may indeed have become a new recruiting ground for the cause of Osama bin Laden — a situation western officials have been concerned about for some time. Furthermore, the oil-rich yet impoverished sub-Saharan African sits on a religious fault line, its 150 million people split almost evenly between Muslims in the north and Christians in the south. Bin Laden is widely admired in the arid Muslim north. It has become fashionable for some Muslims to name their sons after him, while his picture adorns T-shirts and posters. (Read "Terror on Flight 253: Does it Fit al-Qaeda's Pattern?"wink

As TIME's Alex Perry wrote in July 2009, over the past few years, young Nigerian Muslim activists, most of them educated and from the middle class, have aggressively embraced a stricter version of Islam, rejecting anything Western and Christian. In the middle of 2009, the government cracked down hard on one group nicknamed the Nigerian Taliban, officially called Boko Haram, killing its leader and scores of his followers. Boko Haram had begun life in 2001 as a peaceful group focused on the study of the Koran, according to Abdulmumin Sa'ad, a Muslim scholar and professor of sociology at the University of Maiduguri. "The idea was that there is a lot of sin in the larger society and their parents had amassed a lot of ill-gotten wealth," says Sa'ad, who taught some of the militants. Boko Haram may have been quelled but the sentiments that gave it impetus remain very active in Nigeria.

In that regard, the Associated Press reported that a prominent Nigerian banker named Alhaji Umaru Mutallab said Saturday that he was meeting with security officials there because he feared his son was the suspect. "I believe he might have been to Yemen, but we are investigating to determine that," Mutallab told the AP. The Nigerian newspaper This Day reported Saturday that Abdulmutallab had been known for having extremist religious views since attending high school at the British International School in Lome, Togo, saying he had the nickname "Alfa," a local term for an Islamic scholar. The newspaper also cited family sources as saying that after Abdulmutallab left university in London, he relocated to Egypt and then Dubai, where he cut ties with his family. (See how Nigeria is struggling with its Islamist insurgencies.)

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab apparently wrote on visa documents that he was traveling to the U.S. for a religious ceremony. On Friday afternoon, Rep. Peter King, the ranking Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, said in television interviews that Abdulmutallab's name had appeared in databases as having a connection to terrorists. It is still unclear how long he had lived in London, or when he had lived in Nigeria.

Little is known thus far about Abdulmuttalab's time in London, aside from the fact he was believed to be a former engineering student at the prestigious University College London. The university issued a statement Saturday saying that a student by the name of "Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab" had been enrolled in the mechanical engineering course at the school from September 2005 to June 2008, although it stressed that it could not confirm the student was the same man being questioned in Detroit. In his interview with the AP, Alhaji Umaru Mutallab said his son had been a university student in London but had left Britain to travel abroad. He said his son had not lived in London "for some time" but he wasn't sure exactly where he had gone. (See how al-Qaeda is creating a crisis in Yemen.)

British intelligence and police officials also delved into Abdulmutallab's background Saturday, trying to piece together clues about his activities and associations during his three years in London. Officers from Metropolitan Police focused their attention on a seven-story mansion block in a well-to-do area of central London, conducting a search of a basement apartment owned by the Mutallab family near the university — reported to be worth $4 million — where the suspect, if he is indeed the son of the Nigerian banker, once lived. Home Secretary Alan Johnson didn't release any details of the search, saying only that London police are "working with their American colleagues on the investigation to uncover the full background to the incident."

The incident occurred about 11:30 Christmas morning, as Northwest Airlines flight 253, carrying 278 passengers from Amsterdam, was on its final descent into Detroit's international airport. According to the FBI affidavit, a few minutes before the events began, Abdulmutallab went into the bathroom for about 20 minutes then, upon returning to his seat, complained that he had an upset stomach and put a blanket over himself. Suddenly, passengers heard a loud pop, and then saw smoke, and flames, coming from row 19. "What are you doing? What are you doing?" one woman shouted toward the man, later identified a Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. A male passenger leaped toward Abdulmutallab and pulled him to the floor. Flight attendants apparently rushed to the scene with fire extinguishers. One flight attendant reportedly asked Abdulmutallab what he had, to which he allegedly replied "explosive device." According to the FBI complaint, one passenger saw the remains of a partially melted syringe in Abdulmutallab's possession and took it away from him, shook it to stop it from smoking and threw it on the floor of the aircraft. Abdulmutallab was then placed in a headlock and pulled into the first-class section. "He didn't show any reaction to pain, any feeling of shock or nervousness," one female passenger who sat across from Abdulmutallab told television reporters after the plane landed, shortly before noon. Abdulmutallab was taken to a hospital in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

The FBI has described the material apparently used in the syringe as PETN (also known as pentaerythritol), which it called a "high explosive." PETN is an ingredient in Semtex plastic explosives; it was also reportedly used by the "shoebomber" Richard Reid in his abortive Christmas 2001 terror attempt. Rep. King said the device was "somewhat sophisticated," and was more than a firecracker, and that "it should have been detected." Federal officials swiftly called the incident an attempted act of terrorism. President Obama, vacationing in Hawaii, ordered strengthened security on international flights. The Department of Homeland Security said it had amplified screening measures. (See how religious violence is tearing at Nigeria's fabric.)

It's unclear why Abdulmutallab chose the flight to Detroit. The city's airport is the 13th busiest in North America, and is the hub for Northwest and Delta airlines. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, federal authorities have intensified security along the bridges and tunnels that connect Detroit to Windsor, Ontario.

— With reporting by Justin Bergman/London and Alex Perry

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1950159,00.html?xid=rss-topstories#ixzz0aqENJpDK
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 12:30am On Dec 27, 2009
Yoighaman:
Need to get some rest; will return to this thread tomorrow morning.

Parting shot: Sagamite, please take it easy you've been overly rash on this thread.

Good nite.
Very good advice.
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 12:01am On Dec 27, 2009
Yoighaman:
I'm sure the FBI will detain him for a very long period of time in order to extract useful piece of information from him

I'm glad it didn't occur in Nigeria where it would have been covered up immediately

Trust Americans; they know how to deal with him

It might sound illogical and unintelligent but i think Nigerians need to look further into this Sanusi-Dr. Mutallab-Farouk-Jaiz Bank-Northern agenda-extremist et al circle.
No need for that, the "mujaheed" is already singing like a happy canary.
Politics › Re: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by Beaf: 11:52pm On Dec 26, 2009
xterra2:
So now Nigerians are terrorist(didnt say all),this is funny,Nigerians are unique,they can do anything.
And know if you are a muslim and going to US especially if you have arabic name,you are going to be on Homeland security and NSA watch list.Trust americans for this.

Imagine US said that they knew this Bomber had links to terrorist group two years ago,and US didnt put him on a watchlist,
This US intelligence agencies are damn liars they cant even lie, They should step up their game


And for,Dora-Another GOOD person from this GREAT nation, right?

From now on,i am a south african i would not like to be called a terrorist
Infact,i am creating randland.com----(rand-south african currency)

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Sorry charlie. These people don't do things in our style, they would have watched everybody possible connected with him. Just wait and see how all the boys links will be revealed and those who control him are caught or named.
Politics › Re: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by Beaf: 11:43pm On Dec 26, 2009
stiyke:
Thank You Jare,
Though i dont think they will ever accept that life is sacrade

that yeye aboki called Farouk is a joker.
He duped the Yemeni's or al-quada. He wants to dupe islam. He lit fire crackers (knockout, or banger) and in his aboki immagination it was supposed to explode the plane. He probably didnt want bomb to kill him cause it will hurt more, fire crackers would hurt less, heheh what an expensive joke.
LMAO grin

Too bad he added another trouble to nigerians travelling ,
It has been confirmed that what he had was high explosives, so please stop this "fire crackers" disinformation.
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 10:58pm On Dec 26, 2009
real4life:
@beaf

okay goodnite i love you too

If you are a fine girl, I no shake.
But if you are one ugly male guy with pimples and k leg, I have doberman waiting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:European_Dobermann.jpg

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Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 10:51pm On Dec 26, 2009
real4life:
Beaf,

You are clearly a dumb illiterate. I am shocked because i thought otherwise

Let me break it down for you, in my previous posts I said:

1. If the accused is proven guilty then his action must be strongly condemned

2. Because he is a muslim/northerner does not mean all muslims/northerners have the same ideology as him

3. The post you have been referring to is a completely different case because it has nothing to do with that young man
Forget it man, in maybe 40 or 50 years time you will suddenly see the light (you might be a bit too slow right now). Certain arguments are bloody dangerous, period.
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 10:26pm On Dec 26, 2009
real4life:
Seeing that you are still confused, that post was a reply to a specific question by someone. It is not directly related to this thread. And I used the examples because they are the most recent events closely related to our topic.

And just for the records, I am not bothered about being called names cos I know who I am. I also have the right to reply in kind if I feel like it so just take it easy.
I don't see how shooting in US schools, the attack on Belusconi, Israeli apartheid, the pushing down of the pope etc can justify a terrorist act committed by a Nigerian. The shame is yours.

. . .Are you by any chance saying Abdul Farouk Abdul Mutallab is not a terrorist? Or his leg caught fire by mistake? You alone understand.
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 10:15pm On Dec 26, 2009
Roliks09:
@beaf, this should be a forum for intelligent people who can argue their points without name-calling. You dont need to call any1 A SlowPoke or  a fool to make a point. It even more shows your incapability for logical argument and reveals the abysmally low level of your tolerance. Anyways, Nigeria as a whole is affected and the international world wont make a distinction btw southern Nigerian and Nothern Nigerian. The earlier we wake up 2 this,d better.
I will say what I like. If an argument is dangerous, I will make my opinion known in unmistakable terms. Lives have been innocent lost on such logic
About Nigeria being affected as a whole, I am not too sure; the South and non-Muslims would be affected to a much smaller degree than the Sharia states of the North. The US / UK have always been wary of Al Qaeda links with Northen Nigeria.
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 10:09pm On Dec 26, 2009
real4life:
Beaf,

pls take a few minutes to understand the context of that post and stop behaving like a confused chicken.
Seriously, if you continue reasoning like that, you will be called names. Perhaps your view of the "context" was wrong from the onset?
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 9:57pm On Dec 26, 2009
real4life:
kokoetemma the real situatuion is that only criminal acts carried out by muslims are regarded as terrorism.

Just yesterday a woman knocked down the pope but because she is not a muslim she is said to be mentally imbalanced (not a terrorist)

I am sure you havent heard, but just today israel has killed 6 palestinians, they say the palestinians turned down a chance to surrender blah blah, (they call this self defence)

Just last week a man almost killed the italian prime minister but because he is not a muslim they say he has a mental problem(not a terrorist)

Everyday you hear about shootings in schools in USA and many other western countries (but they are not terrorists)

Take some time to research more, you will get the answer ye seek

Cheers
What you i.diots don't understand is that, the rest of us will never be able to make sense of f.ools who see things like a woman knocking the pope down as connected to Nigeria or Abdul Farouk Abdul mutallab. In just the same way, the problems between Israel and Palestinians are not Nigerian problems, neither are shootings in schools in USA and many other western countries or the attack on Belusconi.

Abdul Farouk Abdul mutallab is Nigerian.

We have had Southerners despoiled and killed and their propery burnt to ashes, all because some i.diots in the Netherlands depicted Muhammad in a disgraceful way; but Dutch people aren't Southern Nigerians. There are a thousand and one similar examples.

Are normally daft or just pretending? People like you would rather join Boko Haram than get an education; is it any surprise that your logic is abysmal and plain dangerous? angry
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 9:36pm On Dec 26, 2009
oddy4real:
I am really surprised that at this digital age, some people would still be so unintelligent as to try to spring up religious sentiments even when we know that this nation is sitting on a keg of gunpowder.  Why would some people start labelling Prophet Muhammed as DOG and muslims as terrorists. for your information, no part of the Quran encouraged Muslims to kill others or else of course Over zealous Imams are  misinterpreting the Quran.
 If you would call Northern muslims terrorists, what then do we label Southern christians who carry drugs and do YAHOO YAHOO. Do we then label JESUS CHRIST A THIEF?
lets just be careful with the things we post here and as educated people, we should be objective and not sentimental to germaine issues like this.
To be honest, I don't care who labels who or what the labels are.
Nigerians are the biggest foo.ls when it comes to religion; in the North, almajiris and their cohorts kill "fellow Nigerians" at the drop of a hat "in the name of Muhammad"; while down South, we have child witches who are killed "in the name of Jesus".
Politics › Re: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by Beaf: 7:28pm On Dec 26, 2009
bidemi12:
If that really is his face then there is something amiss. One, he is a Nigerian and a huge percentage of Nigerians (if not all) are cowardly and do nothing except for profit and selfish reasons. Two, did anybody notice his yuppish image and style? like i said b4 he is a Nigerian; we love life too much to be suicide bombers. As of this morning CNN said on the plane the young man looked "dazed and confused". there is really something amiss.
When you've just flunked a suicide bombing attempt, blown up your leg and probably lost your di.ck, the tendency will be to look "dazed and confused" and there really would be "something amiss".

I am tired of hearing these excuses about Nigerians loving life too much. What of all the killing extremists have been doing up North? Ain't they Nigerians? angry
Politics › Re: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by Beaf: 7:14pm On Dec 26, 2009
fuckmedown:
foreign media has changed our perspective about life, it has created a kind of hatred among us and we need to creat our own stations that really broadcast wht [b]real [/b]africa and african is all about, tnx. angry
And what is that? Is it not knowing the whereabouts of our president for 32 days and praying?
All we need do is clean up our act.

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