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honeric01:You can find the answers to your questions at the links provided with the polls. |
real4life:If we are less sensitive, we will not see everything as "generalisation", it is only natural that fingers will be pointed at this time. How you react will tell if the fingers will lower themselves by tomorrow or point even more rigidly. There is a huge problem that is getting worse as the years go by and hard truths need to be dealt with. There needs to be thought through and hard nosed strategies to deal with our religious issues. You think that "religious scholars especially islamic scholars" are the ones to carry the mantle of responsibilty, I think so too. Where we differ is in the possibilty to subject them to the rules of the land, it has been done successfully in most countries, so why not in Nigeria? One of the major obstacles is that, corrupt politicians see religion as a way of holding the people captive to a higher force that they (politicians) can manipulate either directly or through proxies (eg, there are strong rumours about the purposes of Boko haram). It is an evil game that we should all see beyond, how much blood are we going to shed in battles for a being who is all powerful and doesn't require our effort (except we are creating that being ourselves)? Other major obstacles to subjecting religion to the law are poverty, lack of opportunity, lack of security, lack of education etc. All can be tackled. |
Are lack of education, despondency and poverty in the North responsible for this horrid state of affairs? If so what should be done? I suggest two things. [list] [li]That education be raised as a national security issue[/li] [li]That, in totally unmistakable terms all religion be made to adhere to the constituition[/li] [li]The constituition alone and above everything, determines rights and priviledges in the country (ban sharia and jail the likes of evangelist Helen Ukpabio)[/li] [/list] A few very disturbing polls. . . (http://pewglobal.org/database/?indicator=20&mode=chart and http://pewglobal.org/database/?indicator=19&mode=chart)
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real4life:For some reason, I'm expecting that after reading the post below, you'll not be coming back. What are your true feelings?. IT IS SUCH A VERY BAD NEWS THAT IT DID NOT WORK OUT FOR HIM, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE GUY IS NOT silly AND ALSO HE IS NOT A LOW LIFE naughty person AS YOU THINK AND MANY MORE ARE OUT THERE WILLING TO DO IT FREE OF CHARGE, HE LIVES IN THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSES IN LONDON, EACH FLAT ON THE STREET COSTS 4 MILLION POUNDS WHICH MEANS HE IS NOT BOKA-HARAM KNOWN TO CONSIST OF ILLITERATES AND LOW-LIFE PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE STAND UP FOR SAME REASON. HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN YOUR TIME TO LISTEN TO THE VIEWS OF THE SO CALLED TERRORIST OR YOU DECIDE TO LIVE ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE WESTERNS AND THEIR ALLIED MEDIA. THE PEOPLE HE IS TRYING TO FIGHT ENGINEERED THIS ATTACK THAT KILLED 1,400 PALESTINIANS IN THE GAZA STRIP MAINLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN http://www.vtjp.org/background/imagesgaza.php , THOUGH ISREAL CARRIED OUT THE ATTACKS BUT THE DEADLY WEAPONS USED WERE MADE AND SUPPLIED BY U.S, U.S DID NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT TILL DATE AND AS YOU KNOW ISREAL IS THE CLOSEST ALLIED TO THE U.S IN THE MIDDLE EAST, RIGHT NOW THERE IS A SHIP IN JORDAN TRYING TO BRING IN FOOD AND MEDICAL AIDS TO THE PALESTINIANS AFFECTED BY THE WAR BUT EGYPT DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO PASS THEIR BODERS DUE TO ISREALI PRESSURE NOT TO ALLOW THOSE ITEMS IN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY?, WHERE IS THE MERCIFUL U.S NOW?, WHO IS A WAR CRIMINAL/TERRORIST NOW? WHERE IS THE NICE SMILING FACE OF OBAMA NOW?https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371788.224.html#msg5192954 |
real4life:I thought we had left this behind yesterday? ![]() If you have a point to make, please make it. |
We are getting into another "tribal" war here. I simply say, the following people have nothing at all to add to political discuss; [size=14pt]Paroh Frey Depilot Becomerich Tpia *Jona Mekusxx Sjeezy8 Babapupa[/size] Their posts are always foul mouthed, irritating, "tribal" or in the case of Paroh Frey and Depilot, even contain threats to other users safety (something that should concern the morderators very deeply, but there is no sign it does). These people should be firmly banned and if they keep popping up, ban again and re-ban! |
We have had quite a few dangerous folk trying to justify the actions of the wretch, Abdulfarouk Umar Abdulmutallab with events that are external to Nigeria; this raises quite a few disturbing questions: [list] [li]Do events in the Netherlands, Israel, Palestine etc, have a diplomatic / strategic efect in Nigeria that they are dealt with in org.ies of violence and blood on the streets of Kano, Bauchi, Jos etc?[/li] [li]If external events are important enough to cause pogroms in Nigeria; are events in foreign lands more important than lives at home?[/li] [li]Are perpetrators of religious violence in Northen Nigeria first, extremist Muslims before they are Nigerians?[/li] [li]Is extremist Islam more important than the Nigerian constituition, in other words; is there an extremist Islam definition of who is a true citizen that is opposite to what the constituition provides? Does this definition make the lives of non-extremists worthless?[/li] [li]If the Almighty is really the one we worship, is he/she so weak that mere mortals are required to blow themselves and others up to fight the Almighty's wars?[/li] [/list] |
Lagosboy:Keep denying the obvious. The i.diot has confessed everything even before visiting Guantanamo and you're here stupidly making excuses for his barbaric actions. Are you muddled or something? ![]() |
ElRazur:. . .But his testicles were the only things he blew up (along with parts of his leg). www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6 |
SEFAGO:I'm just hearing that for the first time. I must say I really wondered about his 100% black looks, but I have a 100% black looking friend who is half black, half white. So I thought his looks were one of those freak events. Interesting. @ciscostaz Thank you for the kind advice. |
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371788.msg5192331#msg5192331 date=1261878322]they smelled an odor and heard popping sounds? ![]() them sure no be say the guy dey pass gas? I watched a movie trailer where someone lighted up his farts oh- na one British American movie wey them just release.anyway, I'm seriously happy he didnt blow up the plane and everyone's safe, like I mentioned before. Must have been a very scary experience. The man has to be crazy and brainwashed for sure. But considering how I get harassed for no reason at some of these ![]() also, did he watch District 9 or something and got annoyed because I still dont understand how he got into al qeauda's clutches unless he read some inflammatory rhetoric on some websites.[/quote]His mum is from Yemen Al-Qaeda's new HQ, so he really didn't have far to look to be radicalised. If you recall there was a missile attack in Yemen some days ago that wiped out 20 of their top guns, maybe that added impetus as well. |
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Sagamite: No its you. . . FOOL www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6
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Sagamite:You actually think you sound intelligent? People from the gutter have a way of talking that always reveals the gutter in them. Why haven't other threads degenerated? |
4. The Nigeria Connection: Until now, Al Qaeda's operations in Africa have been concentrated in the east and north. But there have been some sporadic reports of increased Islamic extremism on the west coast. It's not clear whether Abdulmutallab was recruited in London or Nigeria, but if he made contact with al-Qaeda in his home country, then that opens up a new front in the fight against terrorism.Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1950160,00.html#ixzz0aqORMiMC |
Report from the World renowned Time Magazine [size=14pt]Detroit Terror Suspect: The Nigeria Connection[/size] By Steven Gray / Detroit Saturday, Dec. 26, 2009 Who is Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab? Federal authorities say the man suspected of trying to detonate explosives on Northwest Flight 253 as it neared Detroit was a 23-year-old engineering student at University College London. They say he is a Nigerian citizen and he has reportedly said he was on a mission for al-Qaeda and that he had received instructions from Yemen. On Saturday, Abdulmutallab was charged with attempting to destroy the aircraft and with placing a destructive device on the plane. (Read "Nigeria Banker Fears Son is Alleged Plane Attacker" ![]() While authorities caution that it is too early to conclude anything about the substance of Abdulmutallab's reported claims, Yemen has recently been at the focus of U.S. concerns about the expansion of al-Qaeda; and Nigeria is struggling with Islamist insurgencies. The Nigerian connection is especially troubling because, if the al-Qaeda link is true, then the huge west African country, which is sharply divided between Muslims and Christians, may indeed have become a new recruiting ground for the cause of Osama bin Laden — a situation western officials have been concerned about for some time. Furthermore, the oil-rich yet impoverished sub-Saharan African sits on a religious fault line, its 150 million people split almost evenly between Muslims in the north and Christians in the south. Bin Laden is widely admired in the arid Muslim north. It has become fashionable for some Muslims to name their sons after him, while his picture adorns T-shirts and posters. (Read "Terror on Flight 253: Does it Fit al-Qaeda's Pattern?" ![]() As TIME's Alex Perry wrote in July 2009, over the past few years, young Nigerian Muslim activists, most of them educated and from the middle class, have aggressively embraced a stricter version of Islam, rejecting anything Western and Christian. In the middle of 2009, the government cracked down hard on one group nicknamed the Nigerian Taliban, officially called Boko Haram, killing its leader and scores of his followers. Boko Haram had begun life in 2001 as a peaceful group focused on the study of the Koran, according to Abdulmumin Sa'ad, a Muslim scholar and professor of sociology at the University of Maiduguri. "The idea was that there is a lot of sin in the larger society and their parents had amassed a lot of ill-gotten wealth," says Sa'ad, who taught some of the militants. Boko Haram may have been quelled but the sentiments that gave it impetus remain very active in Nigeria. In that regard, the Associated Press reported that a prominent Nigerian banker named Alhaji Umaru Mutallab said Saturday that he was meeting with security officials there because he feared his son was the suspect. "I believe he might have been to Yemen, but we are investigating to determine that," Mutallab told the AP. The Nigerian newspaper This Day reported Saturday that Abdulmutallab had been known for having extremist religious views since attending high school at the British International School in Lome, Togo, saying he had the nickname "Alfa," a local term for an Islamic scholar. The newspaper also cited family sources as saying that after Abdulmutallab left university in London, he relocated to Egypt and then Dubai, where he cut ties with his family. (See how Nigeria is struggling with its Islamist insurgencies.) Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab apparently wrote on visa documents that he was traveling to the U.S. for a religious ceremony. On Friday afternoon, Rep. Peter King, the ranking Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, said in television interviews that Abdulmutallab's name had appeared in databases as having a connection to terrorists. It is still unclear how long he had lived in London, or when he had lived in Nigeria. Little is known thus far about Abdulmuttalab's time in London, aside from the fact he was believed to be a former engineering student at the prestigious University College London. The university issued a statement Saturday saying that a student by the name of "Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab" had been enrolled in the mechanical engineering course at the school from September 2005 to June 2008, although it stressed that it could not confirm the student was the same man being questioned in Detroit. In his interview with the AP, Alhaji Umaru Mutallab said his son had been a university student in London but had left Britain to travel abroad. He said his son had not lived in London "for some time" but he wasn't sure exactly where he had gone. (See how al-Qaeda is creating a crisis in Yemen.) British intelligence and police officials also delved into Abdulmutallab's background Saturday, trying to piece together clues about his activities and associations during his three years in London. Officers from Metropolitan Police focused their attention on a seven-story mansion block in a well-to-do area of central London, conducting a search of a basement apartment owned by the Mutallab family near the university — reported to be worth $4 million — where the suspect, if he is indeed the son of the Nigerian banker, once lived. Home Secretary Alan Johnson didn't release any details of the search, saying only that London police are "working with their American colleagues on the investigation to uncover the full background to the incident." The incident occurred about 11:30 Christmas morning, as Northwest Airlines flight 253, carrying 278 passengers from Amsterdam, was on its final descent into Detroit's international airport. According to the FBI affidavit, a few minutes before the events began, Abdulmutallab went into the bathroom for about 20 minutes then, upon returning to his seat, complained that he had an upset stomach and put a blanket over himself. Suddenly, passengers heard a loud pop, and then saw smoke, and flames, coming from row 19. "What are you doing? What are you doing?" one woman shouted toward the man, later identified a Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. A male passenger leaped toward Abdulmutallab and pulled him to the floor. Flight attendants apparently rushed to the scene with fire extinguishers. One flight attendant reportedly asked Abdulmutallab what he had, to which he allegedly replied "explosive device." According to the FBI complaint, one passenger saw the remains of a partially melted syringe in Abdulmutallab's possession and took it away from him, shook it to stop it from smoking and threw it on the floor of the aircraft. Abdulmutallab was then placed in a headlock and pulled into the first-class section. "He didn't show any reaction to pain, any feeling of shock or nervousness," one female passenger who sat across from Abdulmutallab told television reporters after the plane landed, shortly before noon. Abdulmutallab was taken to a hospital in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The FBI has described the material apparently used in the syringe as PETN (also known as pentaerythritol), which it called a "high explosive." PETN is an ingredient in Semtex plastic explosives; it was also reportedly used by the "shoebomber" Richard Reid in his abortive Christmas 2001 terror attempt. Rep. King said the device was "somewhat sophisticated," and was more than a firecracker, and that "it should have been detected." Federal officials swiftly called the incident an attempted act of terrorism. President Obama, vacationing in Hawaii, ordered strengthened security on international flights. The Department of Homeland Security said it had amplified screening measures. (See how religious violence is tearing at Nigeria's fabric.) It's unclear why Abdulmutallab chose the flight to Detroit. The city's airport is the 13th busiest in North America, and is the hub for Northwest and Delta airlines. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, federal authorities have intensified security along the bridges and tunnels that connect Detroit to Windsor, Ontario. — With reporting by Justin Bergman/London and Alex Perry Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1950159,00.html?xid=rss-topstories#ixzz0aqENJpDK |
Yoighaman:Very good advice. |
Yoighaman:No need for that, the "mujaheed" is already singing like a happy canary. |
xterra2:Sorry charlie. These people don't do things in our style, they would have watched everybody possible connected with him. Just wait and see how all the boys links will be revealed and those who control him are caught or named. |
stiyke:It has been confirmed that what he had was high explosives, so please stop this "fire crackers" disinformation. |
real4life: If you are a fine girl, I no shake. But if you are one ugly male guy with pimples and k leg, I have doberman waiting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:European_Dobermann.jpg ![]() |
real4life:Forget it man, in maybe 40 or 50 years time you will suddenly see the light (you might be a bit too slow right now). Certain arguments are bloody dangerous, period. |
real4life:I don't see how shooting in US schools, the attack on Belusconi, Israeli apartheid, the pushing down of the pope etc can justify a terrorist act committed by a Nigerian. The shame is yours. . . .Are you by any chance saying Abdul Farouk Abdul Mutallab is not a terrorist? Or his leg caught fire by mistake? You alone understand. |
Roliks09:I will say what I like. If an argument is dangerous, I will make my opinion known in unmistakable terms. Lives have been innocent lost on such logic About Nigeria being affected as a whole, I am not too sure; the South and non-Muslims would be affected to a much smaller degree than the Sharia states of the North. The US / UK have always been wary of Al Qaeda links with Northen Nigeria. |
real4life:Seriously, if you continue reasoning like that, you will be called names. Perhaps your view of the "context" was wrong from the onset? |
real4life:What you i.diots don't understand is that, the rest of us will never be able to make sense of f.ools who see things like a woman knocking the pope down as connected to Nigeria or Abdul Farouk Abdul mutallab. In just the same way, the problems between Israel and Palestinians are not Nigerian problems, neither are shootings in schools in USA and many other western countries or the attack on Belusconi. Abdul Farouk Abdul mutallab is Nigerian. We have had Southerners despoiled and killed and their propery burnt to ashes, all because some i.diots in the Netherlands depicted Muhammad in a disgraceful way; but Dutch people aren't Southern Nigerians. There are a thousand and one similar examples. Are normally daft or just pretending? People like you would rather join Boko Haram than get an education; is it any surprise that your logic is abysmal and plain dangerous? ![]() |
oddy4real:To be honest, I don't care who labels who or what the labels are. Nigerians are the biggest foo.ls when it comes to religion; in the North, almajiris and their cohorts kill "fellow Nigerians" at the drop of a hat "in the name of Muhammad"; while down South, we have child witches who are killed "in the name of Jesus". |
bidemi12:When you've just flunked a suicide bombing attempt, blown up your leg and probably lost your di.ck, the tendency will be to look "dazed and confused" and there really would be "something amiss". I am tired of hearing these excuses about Nigerians loving life too much. What of all the killing extremists have been doing up North? Ain't they Nigerians? ![]() |
fuckmedown:And what is that? Is it not knowing the whereabouts of our president for 32 days and praying? All we need do is clean up our act. |
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