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dayokanu:
@Uche,

Exactly what I am saying So trying to say he is Northern, Moslem or whatever doesnt suffice and doesnt do anything to help our battered image

Maybe I misunderstood you. My bad. Imagine if another Naija boy had been on the same flight with the guy and they just started gisting like normal Naija to Naija levels, Imagine the kain trouble on that ones head now

The almajiri, his family and all his his friends are lucky that Obama is in power, not McCain. McCain would have carried Bush's policies forward, if that had happened, all his folk would have been kidnapped one by one (especially his father), only to turn up at Guantanamo Bay.

[quote author=Paroh_frey link=topic=371903.msg5189901#msg5189901 date=1261848922]You are simply a Beaf - meat, maybe you are the BEAF from a COW, a goat or an antelope, I dont realy know which one of the BEAf you ar, but you must be from one of those lots which turn to human being on their death - BEAF- what are we saying and what are you saying? People say it is hell for Nigeria and Nigerians because of this one man's actions- trying to bomb a plane- and I ask the same question- has it been hell for Ghanians and Ghana since a Ghana national/citizen attempted to blow up buses in London - this is my question and you bring dead bodies as it you dont think at all?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6634913.stm[/quote]Have you heard of Ghanaian extremist Muslims burning, looting and killing? Have you heard of a Ghanaian Boko Haram (that is zealous enough to attack machine gunes with pen knifes, bows and arrows and cutlasses?).
With that it is easy to see that the Ghanaian who was involved in the London bombings didn't have the roots of his extremism in Ghana.

There is plenty to show that Nigerians are radicalised right here in Nigeria (no need for trips to Afghanistan or Pakistan). The stup id argument of yesterday was that he wasn't Nigerian, because his name sounds Arabic (as if everything in Islam doesnt hinge on Arabic); now you have surpassed that daft argument with this "Ghana" bullsh it.

otele:
why is everyone's concern here all about nigeria's image? did you guys really believe that the US did not know about islamic extremist in northern nigeria all these yrs? perhaps the average american may not know, but the CIA does, the state department does, they warn thier people steadily of northern islamic extremists in nigeria.

however, this is not and should not be about nigeria's image. it is about the human mind. how a young man of 23 with such privileges as this fool, can give it all up to kill. . . . . hmmmn

nigeria's image should not be dependent on this goat, after all, I5 of the I9 terrorists on 9-II were from saudi arabia. is the image of saudi arabia damaged before america? No. they still respect each other. we saw US president bow b4 saudi king. Nigeria's image is damaged by stuff like poverty, fake democracy, comatose president/lack of president, corrupt looters/lawmakers/lawbreakers who bring the looted money to US/UK/EU . . these are the stuff and not some wing nuts who want to kill other people

Sorry, but Nigeria has never had the sort of relationship Saudi has with the US. Saudi is of top strategic interest (military and political) to the US. The top guns in the Republican party (and some Democrats) have deep business interests with Saudi and the Middle East, they have fu ck all with Nigeria.

[quote author=Paroh_frey link=topic=371903.msg5189860#msg5189860 date=1261848280]and Obama still went to Ghana despite the fact that a Ghanian citizen is in jail for 33 years for attempting to blow up passenger bus in the London Transport Network in 2005. Big deal?[/quote]You keep displaying how much of a midget you are.

These things did not happen in Ghana. . .

[list]
[li]Jan 2009 ,  ethno-religious crisis in Jos, Plateau State leaves over 500 innocent people dead[/li]
[li]Feb 2009 [/b]Muslim violence leaves at least 11 people dead in Bauchi[/li]
[li]June [b]2009, a Muslim mob in Sara, Jigawa state burn a police outpost and injure about twelve people over blasphemy against Prophet Mohammed[/li]
[li]July 2009. . . Boko Haram[/li]
[li]Dec [b]2009 [/b]Suicide bomb attempt on a US plane[/li]
[/list]


All in a years work (there are many more unmentioned ).

Our terrorists are not doing anything new, its been going on for long now. They are simply exporting their behaviour beyond our shores.

https://blogs.reuters.com/africanews/files/2009/07/nigeria.jpg
reposted

edoyad:
I don't want to sound tribal, but This thing if looked at critically is not only about religion. Don't yoruba people have muslims too ? Fashola, Tinubu and the Jakande family aren't they muslims too ? I dare say almost 1 in 3 of all the yoruba people i know are muslims but how come they're not battling such archaic mind sets.
Hausa people have been using this religion thing to cause us problems for aeons up here. People have travelled to Ghana, Sierra leon and Ivory Coast and have seen how their own muslims behave there. While there are extremists there too, the wider society there is open to development unlike the hausa-muslim community in Nigeria.
We should start telling it how it is .

Word. Call a spade a spade.

In all my visits to Ghana, I have never met a single almajiri. The almajiri problem is known to be unique to the Sokoto caliphate (as are a few other things, obviously).

If we take a brief tour of history, we can easily recall that, prior to the unfortunate misadventure of the exploitative British colonialist, the bilad-al-sudan (the Sokoto caliphate) was said to have encompassed the present northern Nigeria, Niger republic, northern Cameroon, northern Ghana, part of Burkina Faso up to the present independent republic of Mali. In all these areas, the institution of Almajirchi has been in practice with of-course some local variations here and there. Therefore, chances are that the same problems that have been bedevilling Nigeria must also be affecting them in one way or the other and to a certain degree

http://www.gamji.com/article8000/NEWS8282.htm

OAM4J:
@ Depillot

Is this a re-branded you?

If you keep reasoning like this then there is hope for you.

Keep it like this in the new year.

Maybe his 419 business will be adversely affected by bad relations with the US, he is as stup id and unpatriotic as paroh frey.

[Quote author=ruffrider]
I can't believe the responses from some of you people.  So there it is, now I why they say DON"T TRUST NIGERIA.  I am convince.  You guy have a lot of hidden hatred for the US.  It has now been expose.  I will not longer visit Nairaland Forum.  USA IS THE BEST, IDIOTS  [/quote][size=14pt]Don't be decieved by the terrorist lovers that are flocking here. Southern Nigerians (and non-sharia Northerners) don't hate the US.[/size]

This is where he lives in London. Oil money .

mbulela:
in my view, [size=14pt]this is an isolated case.[/size]
the average nigerian loves his life too much to go into sucide bombing.
it is not in our make up.

Oh yes! It is as "isolated" as Boko Haram and the Jos massacres (500+ dead).

PapaBrowne:
Hahahahha!!!
Dr Umaru Mutallab!!! That is CBN Governor, Lamido Sanusi's best friend.

Mutallab who has been Chairman of First bank for ten years single handedly appointed Sanusi as the CEO of First Bank in preparation for his posting as CBN Governor.
Mind you, both  Muttalab and Sanusi were also together in UBA and have been very close friends all these years.
In short, Muttallab is Sanusi's mentor.

Only last week, 15th December 2009 to be precise, Muttallab resigned his appointment as Chairman of First bank probably in preparation for the onset of his Islamic Bank- Jaiz International Bank.
Sanusi has been pushing for the establishment of Islamic banking, with Jaiz Bank as the first off shot.

Now his son is involved in an international terrorist attack!
No wonder Sanusi has been going about his job at CBN like a terrorist, causing unnecesary catastrophe in the whole banking sector!

ABOUT MUTALLAB
http://www.jaizinternationalplc.com/board_of_directors_management_staff.html

They both sit on the board of an Islamic bank. Their colleague, Rilwan Lukman is now in Austria (even though ordered not to travel). Is there a link?

[size=14pt]. . .First bank also produced Lamido Sanusi. Something de deh?[/size]

[size=14pt]PDP top brass, FEC in frantic moves to resolve power vacuum[/size]
Friday, 25 December 2009 17:39 BADEJO ADEMUYIWA

,  as restiveness grows in Nigerians, including military

Top brass of the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) and the Federal Executive Council have become more frantic in efforts to resolve the power vacuum following concerns Nigerians, including the military, are losing patience with their civilian leaders.

It comes against the politicking and horse-trading that has been going on over Nigeria’s Presidency following the 32-day absence of President Umaru Yar’Adua from the country for medical attention in Saudi Arabia. There are also hints the hierarchy of the serving military appear now to be seeking an early resolution before January 1, 2010 BusinessDay has learnt.

The military senior hierarchy is particularly keen to see a resolution so as to maintain the command structure which has the President at the head as Commander-in-Chief.

Business Day learnt that the military’s concern is that as things stand now, with politicians unable to get their act together and apply the tenets of the constitution, any emergency situation requiring the deployment of troops by the C-in-C who has to seek approval from the National Assembly, there is no one to do that, thereby leading to a damaging effect on the decision making chain of the military.

President Yar'Adua
One retired general explained to Business Day Friday that although the military does not have concerns about an immediate specific situation, “ but there is the possibility that should a situation arise after talking to you, one requiring the C-in-C to act in his role, then there would be cause for serious concern,” he said.

the Federal Executive Council and the National Assembly, which have powers to act, are being seen as failing to act in the interest of the country, instead the political leadersip is subjecting the nation to undue anxiety and engaging in political scheming.

President Yar’Adua has been away at the King Faisal Hospital, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where he is undergoing treatment for acute pericarditis, an inflammation of the outer wall of the heart. He doubles as the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of Nigeria.

“Without proper transfer of this responsibility, a political and constitutional crisis has emerged. And this is even more so because the military will only take orders from a properly constituted authority,” a military analyst said, under condition he would not be named.

Business Day learnt that it is this growing concern in the military and broad section of Nigerians that is now forcing senior officers of the ruling PDP and the FEC to double their effort to resolve what has now become an impasse before January 1.

However, the inability of the actors in the political manoeuvring to agree on an acceptable candidate for vice-president, in the event of a Goodluck Jonathan Presidency, is exerting pressure on the North’s cohesion and ability to wrap up the process ahead of January 1, 2010.

Speculation is rife that President Umar Yar’Adua may apply next week for leave and ask Goodluck to act as president. There is also a report that the nation's former heads of state have called a crucial meeting next week to discuss the impasse.

Olusegun Obasanjo former president and Ibrahim Babangida, former military head of state, have touted Aliyu Gusau, former national security adviser (NSA) and Sule Lamido, Jigawa State Governor as candidates for the VP slot.

Sources told BusinessDay that Obasanjo is insisting on Lamido against Gusau because the latter is believed to have played a role in the rift between him and Atiku Abubakar, the former vice-president.

Besides, some say that allegation that the choice of Gusau is the idea of Turai, wife of President Umar Yar’Adua is also making him a hard sell.

It has also emerged that apart from concerns by military chiefs, legal luminaries have raised a similar fear over the fate of the in coming Chief Justice of Nigeria who must be sworn in by the president.

One senior lawyer who spoke to our reporter said it was laughable that the Attorney General is claiming that the president is still able to perform his constitutional duties.

“This is simply misleading. If the president cannot sign a crucial and urgent piece of legislation like that the supplementary appropriation bill, is that a clear sign that the president is now incapable of holding that office, at least for now?” the lawyer asked rhetorically.

BusinessDay learnt that the resolution of the power crisis does not lie only in the president writing to the National Assembly.

The constitution allows the Vice President to step in should it happen that the president dies or is no longer in a position to govern and that this does not require any action on the part of an impaired or dead president.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7054:pdp-top-brass-fec-in-frantic-moves-to-resolve-power-vacuum&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=18

. . .Just a few. . .

[list]
[li]Jan 2009 ,  ethno-religious crisis in Jos, Plateau State leaves over 500 innocent people dead[/li]
[li]Feb 2009 [/b]Muslim violence leaves at least 11 people dead in Bauchi[/li]
[li]June [b]2009, a Muslim mob in Sara, Jigawa state burn a police outpost and injure about twelve people over blasphemy against Prophet Mohammed[/li]
[li]July 2009. . . Boko Haram[/li]
[li]Dec [b]2009 [/b]Suicide bomb attempt on a US plane[/li]
[/list]


All in a years work (there are many more unmentioned ).

Our terrorists are not doing anything new, its been going on for long now. They are simply exporting their behaviour beyond our shores.

https://blogs.reuters.com/africanews/files/2009/07/nigeria.jpg

Alxmyr:
Can't make anything of the topic, Is this English or vernacular?

Becomerich only spprreaks Engrriissh!

Reports say his leg was burnt. I am hoping that his di ck was fried off as well!

Justcash:
The guy is a Nigerian and so what?
What measure will the international community introduce against Nigerians that is not already in existence?
There have been Britons, Americans, Egyptians, Indians, Malaysians, Singaporeans, Europeans etc that have carried out terrorist attempts before, so why will our own be a blown out of proportion?
Why will a fellow like that get an american visa easily, while all the Bayos, Okonkwo, Daniels, Mary's etc that are looking for opportunities are being denied visa like mad?
How did he beat the security tight Amsterdam airport authorities? (For those that thinks that Nigerias airport is porouse)


Abegi, leave Nigeria out of this. It is a global problem.
The fact that he did not even blow the plane up, over an ocean showed that he must have had a double thought (A clear feature of Nigerians)

His tools simply failed (not for want of trying).

honeric01:
Oh lawd, so anyone on a flight from Nigeria is 100% Nigerian according to your theory?

Quit this thing. This guy has been known to US security agencies for quite some time. No be today.
If they say he is Nigerian, he is Nigerian.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=371719.msg5186709#msg5186709 date=1261799670]You guys are not serious. Are you really suggesting there are real terrorists in Nigeria?
Letz face it. . . . . .Suicide bombers woulda hugged Yaradua on the last independence day. . . .That would be more heroic than taking a firecracker on a jumbo plane.[/quote]Didn't you hear he was mumbling something about Afghanistan (a much more important topic to hardcore extremists than Yar Adua)?

honeric01:
Yes you are, because you live in this country or have families here so they voted or allowed the present government to rule over the country so you are part of the government okay? not everyone with a Nigerian passport is a Nigerian, what if the passport is fake or  he has dual citizenship? what if he's Nigerian American/British Nigerian or something of such? you know how the western world like to paint Africans right? they might have removed their name from his identity and then turn him to 100% Nigerian because he didn't design a car for them.

Long talk.

My friend the dudes journey started from Lagos. He is 100% Nigerian until proven otherwise; accept it, our Nigerian Boko Haram have upgraded to suicide missions.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=371719.msg5186694#msg5186694 date=1261799298]He is from Iraq.
Nigerian youths don't get into non-profitable schemes.
This dude is 23. . . . . .He will rather carry cocaine than carry an explosive into USA.[/quote]Boko Haram carry coke? Those people that were attacking machine gun armed forces with daggers, hammers and stones?
I accuse you of mis-representing Boko Haram to the wider World .

honeric01:
so i should blame Nigeria? then that means i should blame you too since you are a Nigerian, every Africans or criminals try to associate themselves with Nigeria when they are caught so this could be one of them. like Ghanaian claiming to be Nigerians when they are caught doing fraud. so it's not a silly argument, it's a fact we know except you want to think you are the one bringing up the stu.pid opposition to my points.

Am I your government? Anybody with a Nigerian passport is Nigerian (or do you have a better way of determining a Nigerian?). Period.

[size=14pt]Who will tell Yar Adua in Saudi?[/size]

SEFAGO:
Eating Christmas Chicken, nothing dey happen

Just don't eat dat chicken anyhow near airport or you go hear wen!

FL Gators:
Who cares about European and Whites?

Does Nigeria have to be the first African country to be linked to terrorists?

Ghana beat us to it with the London tube bombs. . . Still not a pride though .

honeric01:
Can't a man from chad get a Nigerian passport or can't a man from Pakistan get it? how long did it take you to get your Nigerian passport? did you have to provide any highly important data before you got your Nigerian passport? where in Nigeria is his from? what state, which city. more than 1 million people could bear any of these names in Nigeria or anywhere else around the world.

Stu pid argument.
Who do you blame? Nigeria or those who have obtained Nigerian passports.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=371719.msg5186619#msg5186619 date=1261798165]What kinda name is this?[/quote]The name of an extremist, boko haramist basta rd  .

Nigeria is being described as a country with a strong Al-Qaeda presense and weak security on CNN.

Jesu! Marines are knocking on ya door!

[size=14pt]Breaking News[/size]

His full name is Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab
Born 1986
Nationality Nigeria.
His explosive was quite sophisticated.

Damn!

[size=14pt]You can bet he is from one of our glorious sharia states.[/size]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/NG-Sharia.png

Bloody stone age retards.

His name is Abdul Mudallad.

[size=14pt]We don't even have a president to reply.[/size]
Fu cking boko haramites!!!

ancel:
@Beaf: Please excuse my ignorance, what does this have to do with Helen Ukpabio? 

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=S0K&q=evengalist+Helen+Ukpabio+child+witches&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

SEFAGO:
I thot the south-south was developed?

Stop being stu pid.