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dre11:
I did caught u about 5hrs ago.. ... I just didn't want to call u out

Why are u peeping and not saying a word


••••••• how was thanksgiving weekend @ur end••••••

I didn't say a word coz its been long since I was on the thread. I don't know what the most recent topic of discussion is & I'd feel out of place since I don't know where you guys are at.Thanksgiving was great, thanks for asking. We really devoured Turkey mercilessly.I hope all is well.

dre11:
Beey



I see u peeping at the thread. ......
U can't hide from mah eyes

Lol,am guilty as charged.Can run but can't hide I guess.Caught red handed

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donbenie:
Yeah,that nigg@ Paul,he's somewhere in the Bible..beware of him!

Have you heard what the Lord has done? He has destroyed the works of Satan.He has given us the victory that's why we sing Oh say yeah...........The works of false teacher Femi Aribisala & his supporters too, Oh say yeah...!!

fairprince:
. Thank u for that insightful contribution. How does this Femi's arguments save the world from destruction and he'll? Methinks one needs to be careful with this form of teaching cos it could lead a lot of simple-minded fellows into heresy and even cos many to err.

I don't know where this teaching originated from or the denomination that practices it. But,it's a false doctrine that's meant to tarnish the image of Apostle Paul.It's a teaching that may possibly lead people astray.For the believers who might not have moved from the milk into the meat,it could shake their faith.

plaetton:
This op did not simply pull these things out of his bottom.
He included passages in the bible to show what Jesus said and how Paul clearly contradicted Jesus.

Just Suppose that Paul and his teachings represent the anti-christ.
Wouldn't that be of concern to you that you might have been following the false teachings of the anti-christ all your life?

Just something for you to ponder.

I'd rather fall into a ditch with my eyes open,than fall with them closed under the lead of a blind man.I'd rather follow Paul as he followed Christ ,than embrace a doctrine of heresy which I don't know what the poster of the same believes.

plaetton:
And my simple point is that I am in agreement with the op that Paul corrupted, subverted and perverted the simple teachings of Jesus to suit himself, his ego , and his ambition.
That he met a horrible death while doing it, does not in any way make him a good guy for christianity.
Simple!

Like I said earlier, to each His own.But as a Christian, am against this heresy the OP is spreading & I choose to stand with what I believe in. But bottom line is that we all have the right to choose what we want to believe or not to believe.

plaetton:
Everyday, people die for what they believe.
That does not validate whatever they believed.

For example, Boko Haram terrorists are dying for what they believe.It
Does that fact validate their beliefs?

It might not validate their beliefs as correct but the fact us that they died for something & in Paul's case Christ.I rest my case.

plaetton:
Correction.
Paul was not a follower of Jesus.
He never knew Jesus, never heard or learned the teachings of Jesus firsthand from the original disciples of Jesus, neither did he quote Jesus in his teachings.
His so-called encounter with Jesus is the type of bullshyte any conman can cook up.
Such alleged encounters are the bread and butter of conmen the world over since 10,000 BC. lol

And it is interesting that he himself is not shy about calling himself a conman.
And many conmen have indeed cooked up many many of such balonies before and after him.

So, the choice is a simple one for those that call themselves christians.
Who do you follow, Jesus or Pauline doctrine?

Whether to believe or not to believe is a personal choice & I'll say to each his own.The apostles encountered Jesus in different ways.Some had visions & angelic encounters.Like I said before, I don't believe that a normal person can die for no course.Yet we see Paul being imprisoned.John the Baptist was beheaded, Peter was hang upside down.Stephen was stoned.Paul eventually died because of preaching the Gospel of Jesus.You cannot tell me that these men died for no course.They died because of Christ

prettyboi1989:
U don't read d bible like u reading a novel. If the holyspirit doesn't open ur eyes of understanding to reveal what's in the scriptures, u are far from understanding what's in the bible. So don't come here trying to separate Jesus from paul. Paul was saved by God to preach the Gospel of God. His inspiration was from God so also was that of Christ. Its only an evil person that will want to twist the word and castigate the teachings of any of God's servants.

They are spreading heresy,rather a false doctrine.

dadde:
Dear Christian folks, it not enough to call Mr. Aribisala, all sorts of names. We need to defeat his deception with the word of truth and reason.

I have read many articles written by Aribisala and I have discovered that he needs to tarnish Christ and Christianity to get fame.

Haven said that, it's is necessary I put up an explanation.Very true. .Ther

I promise to present a cogent explanation. My xplanation may not go well with everyone but it ll go a long way.

I WILL BE BACK

I agree with you that this article us heresy.Paul himself in his introduction to the Romans says "Paul a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle & set apart for the Gospel of God." Who then are we to say he wasn't a followerof Jesus? In Philippians 1:20,He says "I trust that my life will bring honor to Christ whether I live or die.Who dies for something they don't believe in? Even suicide bombers are radicals in their faith & are willing to die for it.Besides the Bible says in Proverbs 30:6 " Do not add to His words it he'll prove you a liar".

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plaetton:
Sorry madam,
But are you still saying that it is okay to use DECEPTION and CUNNING to spread what are supposed to be the simple and TRUE words of god?
In other words, you are still saying the simple true words of Jesus are insufficient and therefore needs to be complimented and supplimented by Deception and Cunning[color=#990000][/color] such as was employed by Paul?

No that's not what Iam saying.What Iam saying is that Christ teaching is the basis of the Christian faith.However, my understanding is that Paul as he himself said,was a follower of Christ according to Romans 1 & urged believers in 1 Cor 11, to follow him as he followed Christ.He might have had his failures being human, but my conclusion is that Paul was not preaching lies,he was preaching the risen Christ.You cannot just fault him based on a verse,you'd have to read the chapter & sometimes more than one chapter to understand why he said what he had said.It doesn't make sense for any man to die for something that he doesn't believe in.You hardly hear of people dying for their Momma but Paul was imprisoned & suffered greatly & eventually died because of preaching the Gospel of Jesus. If you read the entire chapter of Phillipians 1, you might get a hint of what am talking about. Phil 1:7b " You share with me the special favor of God,both in my imprisonment and in defending and confirming the truth about the Gospel." Phil 1: 13 "For everyone here including the whole palace knows that Iam in chains because of Christ." Phil 1:20 "I trust that my life will bring honor to Christ,whether I live or die." Based on these Scriptures I can confidently say that Paul was preaching the Gospel of Jesus & not his own Gospel.

plaetton:
This is complete cow dung.
Are you saying that the simple teachings of Jesus are insufficient, unintelligible, expired or unreal, such that it desperately needed to be supplemented, complimented and perhaps superceded by the doctrines of Paul?
Is this what you are indirectly saying Sir

Jesus and his simple teachings are the bedrocks of the Christian faith, the true Christian faith.
Therefore, any teaching of Paul, complimentary or adjunct, that contradicts directly or indirectly the words attributed to Jesus, should stand null and void.
There should be no debates about this.

We are just discussing on a public forum & everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.So I don't understand why you are catching feelings as it is evidenced by your language.Actually am a madam not sir.My opinion is that even the prophets & the likes of David who was said to be a man after the heart of God commuted adultery & still God said David was a man after His heart. Moses wwho saw God with his eyes was a sinner who not only commited murder but also struck the rock instead of speaking to the rock.Abraham a friend of God lied about Sarah not being his wife.The list could go on & on but what am trying yo say is that Paul with flesh & blood running through his veins was not different from these great men that God used.He preached the Gospel of Christ & many were converted.Regardless of what his failures might have been,Paul served God & was a folloower of Christ as He introduces himself in the book of Romans 1:1. The rest is secondary or rather irrelevant.

omonuan:
Paul is not worthy of emulation:

He counsels the Romans: “Repay no one evil for evil.” (Romans 12:17). But instead of forgiving those who offended him, he asked God to punish them: “Alexander the coppersmith has done me much harm. The Lord will punish him.” (2 Timothy 4:14). While Jesus advocates non-retaliation in Christian conduct: “that you may be sons of your Father in heaven” (Matthew 5:45); Paul preaches it for malevolent reasons: “for in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” (Romans 12:20).

Paul says: “Each man’s work will become manifest; for the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire.” (1 Corinthians 3:13). The “fire” Paul lit led to the burning of innocents at the stake. (1 Corinthians 5:5). He was the father of the Inquisition, whereby hundreds of thousands were hanged, beheaded and stoned to death. His tenets were used to validate slavery (Ephesians 6:5-6); discriminate against women (1 Corinthians 14:34-36); as well as provide biblical authority for anti-Semitism and the Nazi massacre of six million Jews. (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16).

Jesus expressly warns us not to be hypocritically pharisaic like Paul: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.” (Matthew 23:2-3). But Paul contradicts Jesus by asking Christians to be hypocrites just like him: “I urge you to imitate me.” (1 Corinthians 4:16).

You cannot dismiss the Apostle Paul as not being worthy of emulation.Before all else,He was human.The flesh is weak & sinful.Paul was clear that he wanted to be emulated as he also emulated Christ.Even King David & the prophets too were not without fault.They had successes and they also had failures.Paul preached the gospel & many were converted to be followers of Christ.That's why I'd say, "eat the meat & leave the bone." In other words,take the good & leave out the nit. So good,because there's something to learn from the life of the Apostle Paul.

TheRealMrStan:
Read more: http://www.femiaribisala.com/12-articles-of-faith/paul/202-101-discrepancies-between-jesus-and-paul

What I see in this article is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the Scripture.Paul was not preaching his own doctrine, He was preaching the risen Christ.I cannot possibly go over each verse coz time doesn't allow that.But when you read the Bible, you cannot just jump into hasty conclusions[/color].You must understand the context,the times & the reason why something was said.I'll sum it up with this ;[color=#006600] 1Cor 11:1. "Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ." Romans 1:1 "Paul a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle & set apart for the Gospel of God".

cold:
Confusion reigns supreme! But you can't blame them,even god can't seem to make up his mind who's in charge of the world. If it's the son he got during one of his sexual romps or his alter ego the devil.

Whatever you do or say,please do not be blasphemous.Even if you do not believe in God,respect those who do.When you do not understand somethings,it is okay to ask for wisdom than to make hasty uninformed speech that makes one look foolish. And even if you have no interest in matters of the Christian faith,then it is better to refrain from blasphemous speech.Talking doesn't always display wisdom my friend especially cursing what you do not understand.

Daniyemi:
I am sure she made the 'gown' herself.
And I am pretty the cost of the 'gown' wouldn't be more than 1500.(one thousand five hundred naira).
well congrats to her.

There's one American family, known as the Duggar family.They have a reality TV show & are known for being extremely conservative
Girls don't wear trousers in their denomination & dating couples must always have an escort keeping an eye on them till they marry.They are a family of 19 kids from the same parents.Long story short, when the kids started to marry,Americans were worried about what they Duggar girls would wear on their weddings.They proved that one can be modest & still look good in their wedding.Check the pictures ;Jessa Duggar-Seewald, Jill Duggar-Dillard ,Josh & Anna Duggar

Chi59:
This is how they chose to celebrate their wedding ceremony. Do yours the way you want it. Abi is there not freedom of choice again?

Same way there is freedom of choice,so is freedom of expression.I can voice my opinion & definitely I wouldn't be caught anywhere near their style.

Chi59:
Bros, abeg stop taking panadol for their headaches. Do yours the way you want. Does a flamboyant wedding guarantee a happy, fruitful and long lasting marriage? Smh

A flamboyant wedding may not guarantee a longlasting marriage & neither does an extremely humble wedding.Some things happen once in a lifetime & if that's the case,I would give it my all.You do it once but memories last a lifetime.

ireneony:
i just said the truth, no time to sugar coat this pix

Lol,all these denominations that tell women to cover head & not to wear jewelry, I'd be excommunicated at the gate before making it into the church building.

pembisco:
see them, no earrings. smd

[Check that and this.Nawa oh for all these extra conservative churches. Anyway, wish them well.

Bantino:
Hello Beey; it's been a long time.. How are you doing today? Missed you too

)Iam doing well & yes it's been a minute.So what have you been up to while I was away?

dre11:
Being trying something new here on nairaland
Like writing being a member of the prose and poem family and trying mah hand on it


So u mean the cold kept u away from nairaland but it didn't akeep u away from doing ur work

So there's now poem writing on Nairaland? OK oh,I admit that I had been away for a while & yes cold was part of the reason but you, Jbluv55,bantino & the rest of the crew are very missable.

rattlesnake:
Are they married?
Sinners

Let him who is without sin be the first to cast the stone.

toludadon:
abi o...instead of him answering me, he went the way of semantics

Yes,let the person define wisdom to us coz what you said was dismissed as foolishness.

deltateam:
My question goes to you, will you obey God or your senses? For the wisdom of men is foolishness in the sight of God.

You did not answer the question all you did was bring in another question.We want a "yes" or "no" answer. Proverbs 4:6-7" Do not forsake wisdom, she will protect you ;love her and she will watch over you."Wisdom will protect you from potential premature death that could be caused by making dumb decisions

mutualrespect:
The bible is clear in this regard, the book of Malachi says God hates divorce. And should you divorce, it has to be adultery and you must remain unmarried even as a divorcee until the other party dies. This is biblical standard unless you are a xtian. Regards,

Many women have died in the hands of violent men.Some stayed for the sake of kids & others forgave into their graves.Are you saying that such women should stay with their husbands because the Bible isn't black & white clear about the issue of physical abuse?

Iam a Christian but I cannot cope with these: 1 Infidelity - A cheating spouse is a health hazard.They can easily send you into an early grave. If you get one like that,run & don't look back. 2 Physical abuse- An abusive spouse who beats the lights out of you doesn't deserve you.If like their cheating cousin they don't kill you,then they might leave you paralyzed. *Run* 3 .A pysopath spouse.This kind,will do things that many of only read about in novels or watch in movies.This kind can molest your child or they can easily add poison to your drink.They can lie in the name of God & look into your eye & have zero% remorse for their actions.This is what I like to refer to as the spouse from hell.If you get one like that friends,take off immediately ,tomorrow might be too late.

dre11:
Am doing great
It's being long

Am sure this have did occupied you to have kept u away
And don't tell me it's work ooooo


Am sure it's more than work

Hehe, the cold kept me away.It's finally started to feel like winter.Very cold.So what have you been up to?

drstone1:
It turns my belly n instantly turns d person to an abhorrent "thing" I want to keep away from for eons! Dis respect is realy my No 1 turn off!

Glad to know am not the only one that can't take it.The other day my own friend called me.We had been playing phone tag all day.So when he called I happened to be on another call.I asked him if I could call back.It hadn't even been a minute when I called back & his phone went to voicemail.He didn't call me till two days later & I ignored all his calls.However last night when he called to tell me he is in hospital, I gave him a piece of my mind.I can't stand disrespectful friends either.It's a huge turn off.

dre11:


U went away like that without notice
How are u?

very good sir.I hope you are doing well.