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FamilyRe: How Long Can U Allow Your Mum To Stay In Your Matrimonial Home? by beknown(m): 4:52pm On Oct 26, 2011
Outstrip:
I totally agree that you cannot be as free with your mother in law as you would your mother. Anybody that says other wise is lying. The point I was making was that if you want your mother to stay with you for one month then you should be okay with his mother staying the same amount of time. That is the only fair thing. If your mother can grow old in your home then so can his own mother
It is nice to know that some women still think about fairness in matters of relationship.

@Outstrip, thank you for your wisdom. I encourage other women to learn from your wisdom.
FamilyRe: How Long Can U Allow Your Mum To Stay In Your Matrimonial Home? by beknown(m): 1:26pm On Oct 25, 2011
[quote author=ElmA, link=topic=788309.msg9411649#msg9411649 date=1319496151]For as long as she wants.
Shes my mum and shes peaceful.and as long as my husband likes her,theres no problem there.[/quote]Would you say the same for your mother-in-law (husband's mum)?
EducationRe: Brilliant Students And Examination Malpractices by beknown(m): 12:35am On Oct 24, 2011
All,

If ordinary Nigerians think and behave like this, Nigeria is in serious trouble.

The messages in this discussion shows why our country, Nigeria, will take a long time to combat corruption. It is now clear that our educational institutions are breeding ground for corruption.

No wonder we have corrupt leaders in abundance in Nigeria.
EducationRe: Brilliant Students And Examination Malpractices by beknown(m): 10:17am On Oct 23, 2011
'Brilliant' students are not helping themselves or the nation by engaging in exam malpractices or 'exam machinery'.

I will recommend prosecution for offenders and if found guilty, imprisonment of at least 10 years for culprits.

Exam malpractices is the beginning of corrupt behaviour in our country.
PoliticsRe: Collecting Bribe Is In My Blood - Dismissed Policeman by beknown(m): 10:52am On Oct 17, 2011
This is the same for all Police Officers in Nigeria. There is no exemption.

Nigeria Police Officers in road blocks in Nigeria collect bribe. It does not matter where you go - East, South, West or North.

Nigeria Police Force form majority of armed robbers in Nigeria. Any Police road block in Nigeria is a Bribe Collection Point (BCP).

If you are a vehicle driver in Nigeria you will understand my talk.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Pay New York $1m Parking Fees by beknown(m): 9:36am On Sep 28, 2011
@Poster,

The problem with diplomats from Nigeria is their ignorance and poor law awareness. The law is respected all over the world, except Nigeria.

Nigeria does not have to pay the full $1m. If Nigeria negotiate through good diplomatic quarters, the bill will be reduced or cancelled.
BusinessRe: World Bank To Assist Fg On Job Creation - Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala by beknown(m): 11:27pm On Sep 24, 2011
Nigeria has a rating of B+ according to S&P. Fitch rating is BB-.

See the full list for Standard & Poor's rating:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/28/greek-debt-crisis-standard-and-poors-country-credit-ratings


See the full list for combined ratings:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/30/credit-ratings-country-fitch-moodys-standard
BusinessRe: World Bank To Assist Fg On Job Creation - Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala by beknown(m): 1:39pm On Sep 23, 2011
igbo2011:
, Job creation isn't that hard, the free trade zones are good starts. But we need to support Nigerians from all over the world. Try and get them to come back and start businesses. We need to make business starting very easy in Nigeria with NO CORRUPTION,
It is true that job creation is not hard. The major problem we have in Nigeria is the CORRUPTION everywhere you look.

The world bank can help Nigeria eradicate corrupt practices by ensuring that key projects are actually completed. They can also help to review some failures in Nigerian leadership if they will be willing to learn and change for the better.

Nigeria cannot do it without support from abroad. That is the sad truth.

Our brothers and sisters abroad can also help, like Ngozi, but the crime in Nigeria is increasing daily. Kidnapping, for example, is now very enjoyable for many people in Nigeria. Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala and others from abroad are under high security in Nigeria.

How do you expect a professional Nigerian in a good job in the UK or USA or elsewhere to come and face kidnappers and armed robbers without any security?
BusinessRe: World Bank To Assist Fg On Job Creation - Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala by beknown(m): 10:12am On Sep 23, 2011
hajifaty:
Can't we do without WORLD BANK and other useless international organizations that are only established to serve the interest of the US and other powers. Nigeria have the resources and we should be able to do things on our own without external powers.
Nigeria may have the resources but the resources are uncoordinated and mismanaged. There are no accountability and openness in public services. No ready information about government services and their activities.

russellino:
Its not a bad thing to discuss with the world bank but how exactly are jobs in agriculture etc is it from setting up of the businesses themselves or empower entrepreneurship? They had better act fast because you can't have millions on millions of unemployed youth and be sure of security
The world bank can help with coordinating and supervising projects (including Agriculture) to ensure they are completed as desired without cutting corners. The world bank will ensure better delivery in services with accountability and openness. No backyard deals. They can do many more depending on the mandate given to them by our leaders.
WebmastersRe: Calling On All Web Designers/developers: Redesign Of Nigeria.gov.ng by beknown(m): 4:08pm On Sep 17, 2011
@Yawa-ti-de,

Your effort in starting this thread is highly commended.

Please before you bring out the shovel and spade to work, first make contact with the current developers of the site to ensure they will appreciate your kind gesture and allow you access to publish the materials to the domain. Otherwise, you could develop the website but you cannot publish it as the FGN owns the domain.

Remember that some Nigerians are already working for their daily bread on that website under the knowledge and control of the FGN.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: ...... by beknown(m): 12:17pm On Sep 17, 2011
@Poster,

My answer is YES.

Gaining employment at NNPC is not about your class of degree.
FamilyRe: Your Mom Of 58 Years Old by beknown(m): 9:24pm On Sep 15, 2011
@Poster,


Encourage and help her by all means possible.


I know many old women who are Writers. They continue writing even at 90!
ComputersRe: Why Is Internet Access So Expensive In Nigeria? by beknown(m): 9:15am On Sep 06, 2011
Why Is Internet Access Charge This High In Nigeria?
The same reason why there is no stable electricity in Nigeria.
CelebritiesRe: Juju Musician Bayo Ade Is Killed By Kidnappers by beknown(m): 9:11am On Sep 06, 2011
May his soul Rest in Peace.


Nigeria has become a lawless country.

Kidnapping has become the way of life and common occurence in Benin city. Is appears that kidnapping is the new money-making venture in town.

Since kidnapping news began to unfold all over Nigeria, no single person has been arrested and convicted. That is the evidence that the Nigeria Police Force belong in the gang.
EducationRe: National Open University Vs Olabisi Onabanju University by beknown(m): 8:36am On Aug 30, 2011
@Poster,

You have taken a bold step to further your studies. However, you have to understand that higher education is not the same as the lower education you completed in the past.

Whether NOUN or OOU or any university will require you to be ready for serious hardwork. NOUN and OOU have different objectives, so you cannot compare both universities. They have different methods of delivering lessons and making contact with students.

NOUN is an open university where you can contact your lecturers through the post, online and email. NOUN also provide Study Centres as a way of additional support for students in the Nigeria geopolitical zones. Each Study Centre has Director and some Student Counsellors who can help students with their studies. More details here:
http://www.nou.edu.ng/noun/centres.html

OOU is a conventional university where you can see lecturers if they are not on strike. You are also able to attend physical lecture rooms at a set time of the day.

My personal view is that NOUN is very good for you because you are a matured adult and you should know the usefulness of discipline. NOUN will allow you to keep your job or get another job while you study. You can also seek employment in a Mass Communication field. You will have to organise your time and make contact with your lecturers online when you need to. You must study the course materials provided to you. You must have the habit to learn independently. If you need help, you must make online request for explanation from NOUN lecturers.

You can do it with NOUN but be ready to be disciplined, matured and organised in learning.
PoliticsRe: Bomb Blast At United Nation Abuja -- BREAKING NEWS by beknown(m): 12:53pm On Aug 26, 2011
May the dead REST IN PEACE.

May God console the families involved.
TravelRe: Motives Behind The Constant Desire To Travel Abroad by beknown(m): 1:23pm On Aug 25, 2011
Reasons:
- Better education (e.g. qualifications are recognised worldwide, hardwork recognised, etc)
- Better employment prospect during and after study
- Better environment for study (e.g. constant electricity, water, fast internet, etc)
- Excellent legal system (e.g. accountable government, less right violation, good court system, etc)
- Better chance for common man (e.g. everybody is equal and treated equal)
- Better healthcare system (e.g. medical professionals are truly qualified and practical, reliable medicines, etc)
- Less chance for corruption (e.g. transparent processes, accountable authorities, citizen right, efficient law, less cash transactions, etc)
- Excellent road network (e.g. saves the vehicle from quick damage, quick movement, etc)
- Reliable transport system (e.g. different types of transport method, timed transport system, ticket system, etc)
- Many more.
BusinessRe: Should Unemployed Person Pay Tax? by beknown(m): 8:49am On Aug 23, 2011
@Poster,

The answer is NO.

However, you need to supply more details about the specific circumstance you are talking about.

As you know, Lagos state or Nigeria has no way of knowing who is employed or unemployed because no record is kept for everyone. Obviously, nobody declares their income tax in Nigeria except employees of reputable organisations and government.

Many people work privately but do not pay tax - e.g. construction labourers, factory workers, market workers, gatemen, etc.

Taxation in Nigeria is unfair because some people pay income tax and a greater number of people do not pay. How do we assess who is really unemployed?
PoliticsThe Truth Nigerians Must Not Know - Part 1: Executive Stealing by beknown(op): 2:27pm On Jul 26, 2011
Read this:

http://www.championsfornigeria.org/cfn/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=929:the-truth-nigerians-must-not-know--part-1-executive-stealing&catid=14:articles&Itemid=35

The Truth Nigerians Must Not Know – Part 1: Executive Stealing
Author: Rufus Kayode Oteniya |
In this era of the Middle East Revolution and an increasing dissatisfaction of the people with the government of the day, some truths are better kept as secret in order to preserving the status quo.

These truths must be kept away from the public eyes so that the people can believe that the government is working and Nigeria is on the way to the Promised Land.
If the intention of letting the people know the truth is meant to help set them free, one has to be courageous enough to divulge some of these truths regardless of their potential to cause the people to demand accountability from their leaders.
Regardless of its bitterness, a harmful truth is far better than a useful lie. And it is generally believed as stated by Mohandas K. Gandhi that truth never damages a cause that is just and also according to the words of George Orwell, “during times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

Nigerians have been deceived enough and it’s time to know some truths.

We have been made to believe that all’s well; the government is working, electricity will be stable in a time soon; we are en route to meeting the Millennium development goals of 2015; and that we are set to be among the 20 most developed nations by 2020 whereas everything is working to the contrary and the people in government are doing nothing but 360° stealing.

Whenever they are not stealing our money, they are busy wasting it on frivolities.
In setting straight the records, I will be writing this series to disclose some truths the government will not like Nigerians to know. Here are some:

Presidential Jets

According to the 2011 budget passed by the National Assembly on May 25, 2011, and signed into law by President Goodluck Jonathan on May 26, 2011, the over bloated Presidential Air Fleet will be gulping a whooping N17,834,876,113 ($117m) in 2011.
Nigerians still remember the speed at which president Jonathan approved the purchase of three new jets for $155m in August 2010 in addition to the eight planes that were already in the presidential fleet. Our hope that he would be that swift in rehabilitating the blood sucking Sagamu-Ore-Benin and Lagos-Ibadan express roads never was. Who cares for the common man if Jonathan can fly safely?

Here are facts some Nigerians must not know about presidential jets:

• Nigeria has 11 presidential jets to serve every Tom, Dick and Harry in government departments and presidential villa
• David Cameron, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom came to Nigeria last week on a Chartered British Airways Flight because the government has no single presidential jet
• Queen Elizabeth II, other members of Royal Family, the Prime Minister and other ministers of the British Government are served by either the Royal Squadron of the Royal Air Force (RAF) or chartered civilian aircraft or scheduled commercial flights.
• On 19, Jul 2010, a responsible David Cameron (who does what he preaches) and his officials flew out to Washington DC to meet President Barack Obama on a regular BA flight. He even spurned First Class tickets to travel in the far cheaper Business Class. The move saved the government £200,000 in costs because usually, the PM travels on a BA chartered Boeing 747 or 767 - at a cost of £300,000 - or uses a RAF jet. It is Mr Cameron's attempt to lead by example on sweeping spending cuts across government to pay off Britain's crippling £155billion deficit.
• Like the UK, many countries in the world do not have presidential jets.
• Some countries with one or no presidential jets include Algeria, Burkina Faso, Côte d'Ivoire, Croatia, Ghana, Honduras, Hong Kong, Kenya, Morocco, New Zealand, Norway, Serbia, Singapore, South Africa, Tanzania, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uruguay, Vatican city, Venezuela, Vietnam and Zambia
• The U S President typically uses one of two customized Boeing 747-200B jetliners designated as Air Force One, while the Vice President uses a customized Boeing 757 designated as Air Force Two.
• Britain does not pay for non official flights of the PM, little wonder David Cameron and his wife Samantha flew Ryanair in April to Spain to celebrate her 40th birthday.
• American president must pay the cost of flight of his guests on Air Force One.
• The presidential jets are at the beck and call of Nigerian president without any restrictions or control.

Executive Stealing

At this juncture, no Nigerian is left in doubt that the members of the 6th National Assembly under the leadership of David Mark and Dimeji Bankole were just a bunch of looters who were awarding themselves jumbo allowances at the expense of the masses. They were practically reaping what they did not sow and some of them were too busy spending their loots to the extent that hardly have time to attend the plenary sittings of the Houses.
It is too close to call if the members of the 7th National assembly are thieves like their predecessors but the moment they collect the first illegal quarterly allowance, they all become thieves with ‘immediate effect and automatic alacrity.’ Regardless of the hyped reduction, the allowance is still 100% illegal.

The executives are not left behind; in fact, the legislative plunder is like a child’s play compared to what the executives are illegally taking away from the system.
In addition to their constituency allowances, It is no longer a news that governors collect billions of naira as security votes which are unaccounted for and which makes everyone wonder which security they are providing with the money.

While so much has been said about these legislooters, Nigerians must not know that most of the politicians they have elected as their leaders are nothing but execu-thieves,. They are thieves! They do much more harms than the petty robbers who are always subjected to jungle justice of lynching whenever they are caught on the streets of Lagos.
Few days ago, I watched on a social network a gory video of a necklace thief being lynched and burnt to death by the same society that celebrates or elects these billion naira thieves. While I was condemning this barbaric act in its entirety and wondering how lawlessness could be so celebrated with such impunity, I was forced to question why this same society couldn’t just think that what was good for the goose would be good for the gander! Why couldn’t they just go after those who have made poverty a permanent habitant of our society.

Who is a thief?

According to www.dictionary.com , a thief a is person who steals while it further defines stealing as taking (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force.

Going by the above definition, most of the executives from the local and state governments to the federal government qualify to be called thieves because they award themselves as much as they want as allowances and also illegally infiltrated security vote into the system.

Is security vote legal? NO!

The longer an illegality persists, the more legal it seems. Security vote which was an invention under the presidency of Olusegun Obasanjo started with Obasanjo and a few governors awarding themselves monthly, a few millions of naira, giving the impression that it must not be accounted for. It has now got to a level where many of the governors appropriate the sum ranging from several hundreds of millions of naira to billions monthly as security votes.

Notwithstanding it’s illegality, Owelle Rochas Okorocha , the Imo State governor, during his inauguration on May 29, 2011 was openly announcing that he would slash the state’s annual security vote from N6.5 billion to N2.5billion to make provision for the free education programme.

As good as it sounded, it was like saying my predecessor was stealing N6.5b from you annually in the name of security vote but I would reduce it and only steal N2.5b.
Show me an executive from the presidency to the local government who does not take security vote and I will show you an executive who is not a THIEF.

While the president, governors and the local government chairmen were awarding themselves security votes, ministers under Yar’Adua and Goodluck were allegedly taking about N80m quarterly as statutory award. Where is this provided for in our laws?
According to Davidson Iriekpen in an article titled, Security Vote - For Whose Security? “the exact value of the vote is unknown to anyone. There is also no part of the appropriation where it is stated that such a pool of funds should be maintained as security votes in the country. Instead, the malaise has become one of the easiest ways governors allegedly misappropriate funds in their respective states.”

He further claimed that “every year, billions of naira are allegedly squandered under the guise of security votes. The funds suspected to be illegal, are purportedly being used to provide security for the president, governors and their domains, whereas they are being transferred into personal bank accounts. In spite of these huge sums of money, killings, kidnappings, cultism and other security threats are on the increase across the states.
At the federal level, funds are allocated to the Ministry of Defence for the upkeep and welfare of the armed forces and the police, yet billions are still voted for the President as security votes whose impact is unknown.”

And also according to human rights lawyer, Bamidele Aturu, security vote is an illegality and irresponsibility on the part of the country's leaders. He condemned the governors for appropriating security votes to themselves even when they know that it is unconstitutional. He also argued that the governors who indulge in security votes rob the society of essential resources.

In a report by former RMAFC chairman, Hamman Tukur to the presidency, he warned all organs of government to adhere strictly to the remuneration packages by his commission, saying "no other salaries, allowances and or benefits are to be paid to any political, public and judicial office holder. "He said the Federal, State and Local Governments flout the remuneration provisions made by the commission through frivolous foreign trips, arbitrary appointment of aides and use of excessively large motorcades.

He further said “based on the constitution, RMAFC has the final say on the remuneration package of National Assembly and State Houses of Assembly members, while a law need to be enacted based on the commission's proposals regarding the pay packages of executive and judicial office holders.”

Notwithstanding this warning, this illegality thrives from the presidency to the council. As the president take billions of naira in monthly security vote, he also take several millions in constituency allowance.

In the established democracies, politics does not make somebody rich overnight or how can you explain that after years as Attorney-general of Arkansas state, 12 years as governor of the same state and 8 years as the President of the richest and the most powerful country in the world, Clinton needed to take a mortgage in the year 2000 toward the end of his tenure to buy his only house then. And also after many years as a member of Parliament and 10 years as Prime Minister of the rich and powerful UK, Tony Blair had to take up a paid consultancy job to be able to meet up with his bills.

Do you know even any local government Chairman in Nigeria who does not own houses and fleet of cars?

Rufus Kayode Oteniya – oteniyark@hotmail.com
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Music/RadioRe: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by beknown(m): 9:57am On Jul 24, 2011
The death of Amy Winehouse should sound a message of warning to some people who abuse their bodies by way of drugs and alchohol.

I can only conclude that Amy Winehouse committed suicide because her lifestyle was deadly, to say the least. She had many opportunities to change her ways but she blew them.

Everybody has a special talent. She did not use her talent wisely.
CareerSexually Transmitted Degrees by beknown(op): 8:41am On Jul 13, 2011
Do you have a Sexually Transmitted Degree? Be patient and read the following article

http://thewillnigeria.com/opinion/9117-SEXUALLY-TRANSMITTED-DEGREES.html

SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DEGREES
THEWILL. 12/07/2011 22:04:00
SACKED EDO STATE UNIVERSITY EKPOMA LECTURER, MR PETER OTUBU WHO WAS CAUGHT PANTS DOWN IN A SEX-FOR-GRADE SCANDAL A FEW MONTHS AGO.

A friend of mine, a writer based in Abuja, surprised me recently when he asked if I knew what the acronym STD stood for. To underscore how ludicrous I found his question, I quickly retorted, “Of course, sexually transmitted diseases.” He guffawed – I should have noted a tinge of mischief in his tone – and then disabused me. “It stands for sexually transmitted degrees!”

This writer then went ahead to explain that the term was coined by another friend of his to account for the fact that many (too many, in fact) of Nigeria’s university and polytechnic students – mostly females, but some males as well – barter their bodies in exchange for grades. In effect, this inventive adaptation of a well known, frightening shorthand for venereal infestation seeks to sum up a disturbing social trend: students sleeping (or otherwise bribing) their way to a degree.

There are, one conjectures, multitudes of Nigerian bankers, engineers, lawyers, accountants, physicians, mass communicators, economists – to name a few – who flaunt sexually transmitted degrees, diplomas or certificates. Or degrees that were priced and bought, not earned through diligent study.

One must stress that there are many academics and students who don’t – and won’t – participate in this monumental self-debasement and degradation of education. Even so, there’s no question that those who take part, as lecturers or students, in this scandalous cheapening of education constitute a significant percentage.

I was always aware of the existence of rogue academics who sexually exploit their students, or induce them into parting with cash, for good grades. But I came to grasp the dimensions of the crisis when I spent part of the 2001-2002 academic year as a Fulbright lecturer at the University of Lagos.

As I prepared to give my first class, a colleague observed that I seemed “excited.” When I confirmed that I was, he said, in a discouraging tone, “But these students don’t want to learn anything. They prefer to pay cash or offer sex for their grades.”

“Is it possible,” I queried, “that some lecturers are not keen on teaching – and so prefer to collect cash or to bed the students?”

“No, believe me,” this lecturer insisted. “They are not interested in learning.”

Of course, the terrible transaction of buying and selling grades involves two parties, but the seller of grades – the lecturer – strikes me as having far more power than the buyer. At any rate, with all the determination in the world on the part of students to buy good grades, the sordid deal cannot be sealed unless and until a lecturer consents.

With that in view, I told my students the first day of class that I had heard that some of them purchased their grades with cash or their bodies. Then I warned: “The only way you can do well in this class is by working hard. I don’t accept financial or sexual gratification.”

To their credit, most of the students rose to the challenge. They read the texts and came to class ready to ask questions and to participate. Still, a few were too dyed in corrupt colors to take me at my word. One young woman was particularly persistent in asking me to change my rules. “Is it a crime to love?” she asked me over the phone. “Who do you love?” I asked. “You,” she answered. When I told her that I was her teacher, married and unavailable to be loved, she was far from fazed. “I’m not asking you to leave your wife,” she informed me. “I won’t let you borrow me from my wife for even a minute,” I said. Her response: “Why do you hate me so much?”

When I gave exams, another student – male this time – approached me. After giving me the information – which he seemed to think remarkable – that he and I were from Anambra State, he said, “Bros, what can we do about this exam?” Feigning ignorance of where the conversation was headed, I asked, “Did you take the exam?” When he nodded yes, I added: “That’s all I need from you. I will grade you and everybody else.” “No, bros,” he pursued, his tone more earnest. “As a bros, tell me how much I can give you,” he implored. Enraged, I told him how ashamed I was of his conduct – and then waved him away.

An old acquaintance – at the time a final year law student I had known since the mid-1980s – had observed the encounter. He approached and asked why I seemed so irritated. His response to my account of events was even more shocking. He advised me to call back the student and take the money he was willing to offer. “If he fails the exam, he can go and give the money to somebody in the records office – and they will change the grade. Since you’re the one who suffered to teach him, you should be the one to enjoy the money.”

I was astonished to hear a lawyer-to-be pass off such inanity as logic. He was asking me to anticipate wrongdoing by another person, and to move fast to, a, do the wrong thing first and, b, claim the prize – being the one who “suffered.”

This whole business of buying and selling grades is a touchy subject. A few years ago, Ernest Emenyonu, one of Nigeria’s most esteemed literary scholars, ignited a storm when he detailed how some Nigerian lecturers demand cash from their students as a condition for handing out good grades, supervising projects, or awarding degrees. Titled “Sorting: New Vocabulary in Nigerian Higher Institutions,” his piece offered several examples of such unscrupulous behavior.

Emenyonu, who had a distinguished career as a professor at the University of Calabar and whose current teaching address is at the University of Michigan (in Flint), wrote that the terminology “sorting” has become part of the tragic economy of trading in grades and degrees. According to him, sorting means, “to check out lecturers and determine how much a student could pay in return for a grade not worked for or earned through the academic process.” Professor Emenyonu then revealed that some lecturers “bargain in tens of thousands of Naira while some high profile lecturers and professors quote in hundreds of thousands.”

My sadness grows each time I reread Emenyonu’s essay or recall my personal experiences with students who wanted grades that cast them as excellent, but who were loath to do the requisite work. As Emenyonu stated, many students of tertiary institutions “are receiving no worthwhile education at all,” their sponsors “paying for their children to be duped by lecturers and if they learn anything at all, it is experiencing first hand how to camouflage appearance for reality.” Emenyonu continued: “The sharp ones among them are receiving their first orientation into obtaining goods, laurels, and wealth by false pretences, alias, 419. However, the most irreparable harm done by ‘Sorting,’ is that Education is being mirrored as inconsequential in the development of a nation; the degrees we award have no value and the years spent in institutions of higher learning are irrelevant, and rigor as a crucial virtue to be acquired in the course of one's education is an avoidable and unnecessary self imposed hardship.”

I had a drink in Lagos with a Nigerian entrepreneur who’s in the middle of hiring staff for his start-up company. He told of graduates of accountancy who are ignorant of the most basic terms and procedures in the field. He noted the large pool of candidates he must interview before he finds somebody who appears barely qualified. “It’s embarrassing and frustrating,” he said.

The malaise in Nigeria’s education is a microcosm of a larger cultural crisis. By and large, the ethic of the unearned, illicitly acquired preferment has been enshrined in Nigeria. Too many of us aspire to stupendous wealth, but disdain the patience, inventive enterprise and focus that facilitate material success in many other societies. As Emenyonu pointed out, Nigeria runs the risk of arriving at a point where earned and honorary degrees would become indistinguishable. After all, the recipient of a sexually transmitted degree is unlikely to be more versed in her/his field than a man who just gave a big donation to some university in exchange for a degree.

Much as Nigeria’s educational sector mirrors the broader problems of the society, we can stipulate that the country can’t move forward until it gets its educational house in order. No society has ever achieved its developmental goals by degrading the quality and standards of education.

The condition of Nigerian education demands the declaration of a state of emergency. As a corollary, a special commission to save education ought to be established. Nothing less would do. I’d give Emenyonu the last word: “It is about time parents and guardians took more interest in what goes on at the campuses of our tertiary institutions in the name of educating the young minds. What we sow today in our citadels of learning, we will reap tomorrow in the behavioral and mental disorientations of our children and children's children!”

Written by Okey Ndibe (okeyndibe@gmail.com).
CareerRe: Giving Up Banking For London South Bank University by beknown(m): 4:19pm On Jul 11, 2011
@Poster,

This is my last contribution to this post. You should be able to make up your mind by now.

Read this article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/253497.stm

Education

Surrey students first to find work

Cambridge's student population has the wealthiest social profile

Students from Surrey University are the least likely to be unemployed after they graduate - while students at the University of Cambridge are the most likely to come from a wealthy background.
An analysis of graduate employment and the social background of students shows that young people from well-off backgrounds are still filling blue-chip universities, but that students from red brick and 'new' universities often can find work more quickly when they leave.



Students from new universities are finding work as quickly as more prestigious institutions
Figures from the Higher Education Statistics Agency show that several new universities, including Oxford Brookes and Nottingham Trent, are among the top 10 universities with the best records on recent graduates finding work.

Nottingham Trent, with 2.3% of its graduates unemployed six months after leaving college, compares favourably with Cambridge on 2.7% and Durham with 4.8%.

A spokesman for Surrey University, which heads the table with 0.7%, says that this reflects its emphasis on vocational courses, such as engineering or management studies, which are shaped around preparations for the workplace.

Industrial experience

Many of these courses also include a year spent in industry, which again is seen by the university as a factor in helping students find work upon leaving college.

Eight of the ten universities with the highest rate of recent graduate unemployment are taken by former polytechnics, with Coventry at the bottom with 13.2%.

Figures analysing the social class of students entering university, gathered by the Universities and Colleges Admissions Service, show that 81.2% of Cambridge and 79.7% of Oxford students are from "professional or managerial" families.

This compares to 33% for the University of Central Lancashire and 41% for the University of Dundee Abertay, which also features in the top ten for graduate employment.

The national average for UK universities is 54%, with 'old' universities tending heavily towards an intake of middle class students, broadly reflecting the social profile of applications.

For example, the University of York, had 66.5% of its applications from students from professional families, matching an eventual intake of 66.6% from such a background.

Three London universities which appear in the bottom ten for graduate unemployment - South Bank, North London and East London - also appear among the ten universities with the fewest students from wealthy backgrounds.


Universities with the highest proportion of students from high-income families:
Cambridge
Oxford
Bristol
Edinburgh
Nottingham
Imperial
Durham
Birmingham
St Andrews
Newcastle


Universities with the lowest proportion of students from high-income families:
University of Central Lancashire
Thames Valley
South Bank
East London
Paisley
Newport
North London
Wolverhampton
Ulster
Middlesex


Universities with the lowest unemployment rate for former students, six months after graduating:
Surrey
St Andrews
Bristol
Birkbeck
Hull
Nottingham Trent
Oxford Brookes
Dundee Abertay
Nottingham
Oxford



Universities with the highest unemployment rate for former students, six months after graduating:
Coventry
Lampeter
East London
Thames Valley
North London
South Bank
Luton
Salford
London Guildhall
Essex
CareerRe: Giving Up Banking For London South Bank University by beknown(m): 2:27pm On Jul 11, 2011
jay bee:
Have you ever gone through the graduate recruitment exercises in the UK?

Do you realise that applicants get screened out cos they haven't attended a red brick university especially when it's a highly technical discipline.

Why would you advice someone to waste thousands of pounds only for them to add to the statistics?
In answer to your questions,

1. Have you ever gone through the graduate recruitment exercises in the UK? Yes and I got numerous job rejections too. Yet I got my graduate job before I completed my final exam for my first degree in Computer Science.

2. Do you realise that applicants get screened out cos they haven't attended a red brick university especially when it's a highly technical discipline? That is not true. I did not attend a Red brick university in the UK. I am now one of those who screen new graduates for my employer in the UK. Red brick or not, you can still fail to secure a job. Work hard in any university in the UK to score high grade and that is the secret.

3. Why would you advice someone to waste thousands of pounds only for them to add to the statistics? Different people have different motivation. While some people work hard to gain progress, others depend on other factors. If I can get an excellent job among UK nationals and other international people, there is nothing stopping anybody else from doing the same.

Fellow Nigerians, please do not expect to fail because somebody else failed. Your failure or success can depend on how much you put in.
CareerRe: Giving Up Banking For London South Bank University by beknown(m): 12:33pm On Jul 11, 2011
@Poster,

London South Bank University (LSBU) is a good university. Ignore the negative comments about the university. Work hard and be prepared to make your grades at LSBU.

The fact is that London South Bank University has greater population of foreign students. Does that make it bad? NO!

I work with highly regarded Nigerian professionals from London South Bank University in high profile companies and government departments in the UK.

The reality is that every university in the UK go through strict quality assurance process for all their courses. This is why degrees received from the UK are highly regarded around the world. Any course listed in Southbank University have been approved by the QAA in the UK.

I think UK government Quality Assurance is better than League tables. League tables have some bias, stereotype and unfair comparison to them.

See the evidence below and read for yourself:

Quality Assurance Report about London South Bank University:
http://www.qaa.ac.uk/InstitutionReports/Pages/London-South-Bank.aspx

You can compare with other universities and colleges too:
http://www.qaa.ac.uk/InstitutionReports/Pages/Institutions-A-Z.aspx

Quality Assurance Agency website
http://www.qaa.ac.uk

Recognised UK universities:
http://www.bis.gov.uk/policies/higher-education/recognised-uk-degrees/recognised-bodies
BusinessRe: Where And How To Obtain A Mortgage Loans In Nigeria by beknown(m): 12:38pm On Jul 08, 2011
Interest Rate: Currently set at 7%. It is based on 180 Days (6 month) LIBOR (London Interbank Offered Rate) plus 2% adjusted every 180 Days.
Potential applicants must be careful about the variation of LIBOR (London Interbank Offered Rate). It would have been better if it is based on the Bank Of England Base Rate which is currently 0.5% and it does not increase without control because it tracks economic conditions.

LIBOR rates normally apply to people with bad credit history and it can increase abruptly, regardless of economic conditions.
CrimeMan Guilty Of Trafficking Nigerian Women In And Out Of Uk by beknown(op): 1:27pm On Jul 07, 2011
A man has become the first in the UK to be found guilty of trafficking Nigerian women into the country.

Anthony Harrison, 32, was convicted of four trafficking offences as well as two of false imprisonment.

But, Harrison, of Stratford, east London, was found not guilty of two counts of rape, at Woolwich Crown Court.

He is expected to be sentenced later.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14065838
PropertiesRe: Heard Our Lawyer Is Sick O! Please Confirm! by beknown(m): 9:02pm On Jul 06, 2011
Lawyer,

GET WELL SOON.

The whole world is talking to God on your behalf.

Sickness must go out of you in Jesus name.

You are well in Jesus name.
PoliticsRe: Questions every Nigerian should answer by beknown(m): 10:01am On Jun 29, 2011
@Poster,

Nigerians had the opportunity to vote for the best candidate in the election but they chose the worst. Who do you blame?

Tcrack:
the Nigerian problem is a problem that was created over a long period of time and solving it is something that will take time. trust me, even if every Nigerian is ready to die, it still wont solve the problem. if violence should break out in nigeria, i can assure you in the end we will be worse than somalia.all we can do is to find a way of making people in position of authority more accountable and thats something that will take time, considering the fact that corruption has eaten deep into the blood stream of EVERY NIGERIAN. the average nigerian youth is no better than the corrupt elders leading us.
Every Nigerian youth should think seriously about how they contribute to support corruption in the country.

Is GEJ giving us any fresh air now?

Statistics show that Nigeria has greater youth population. If the youths are able to unite under a new political party of like-minded youths, we will disengage the PDP for good. The problem we have is that many youths are happy to benefit from the current trouble. Many youths are happy to buy their own generator called 'I better pass my neighbour'.

Nigerian youths wake up and make yourself relevant.
TravelRe: Is The Uk Worth Staying In Anymore Or Should One Consider Moving Back To Nigeria by beknown(m): 2:58pm On Jun 25, 2011
tom28:
I visited one of my Uncles residing in Peckham in 2006.I would say London is no different from Lagos.
To be very sincere with you, Peckham is not the same as other parts of London. Even so, Peckham does not compare to anywhere in Lagos.

In Peckham, there are constant electricity, running water, good road, good healthcare, good security, no flood and many more.

In fact, the rich and poor people live in the same street in Peckham. Can you compare that to anywhere in Lagos?
Foreign AffairsRe: Ghana GDP Growth Accelerates To 23% by beknown(m): 2:49pm On Jun 23, 2011
Syenite:
The next thing now u'll see some not-do-well Nigerians carrying there Nigeria-must-go bags to Ghana for "greener pastures".
Nigerians are in Ghana already for greener pastures.

Example 1: Many Nigerian leaders sent their children to Ghana for studies.

Example 2: Many Nollywood Actors/Actresses are now in Ghana doing their stuffs.

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