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Hmm. Person dey hungry you say make him disregard him belle. No be die be dat?

So, I stumbled across this interesting exchange on towtter this morning and I think it's amazing enough to share.

TheDarkGamer:
The sad fact that we can hardly differentiate the supposedly "normal" girls from wh*res speaks volumes about the state of our societies.

I made this exact comment to a friend a few days ago. The so-called good girls are desperately trying to be olosho. The thirst for attention, materialism and validation is driving women crazy.

DEMZEE:
Social constructivism doesn't adhere to reality and biology.

Men will be men and women will be women.

Nigeria has religion, traditions, social conventions and culture to curb hypergamy and women's nature. What men are supposed to do is to sound "toxic masculinity" in public and show it in their environment. Succumbing to women and allowing gynocentrism isn't on the table, we should take a cue from Islamic nations they got it right

I agree

BigSarah:
Yassss, when kids grow up seeing this as normal relations...that'll be the end of homophobia...

SAME thing as plays that have multi racial relationships

This is why our ancestors never rated you people. Every flashy thing catches your fancy.

Marrying a 30+ woman is as good as marrying a single mother

Susily:
Bro how far? We don't normally quote female monikers here cos they are here to derail this thread of which they are not invited

Ah, noted

Hyerin:
I'm sorry but this is hilarious . Are red-pillers now likening themselves to Plato and Socrates? These philosophers contributed to knowledge. what are you lot contributing to society other than being raging misogynists on online spaces which serves as breeding grounds for r@pists, sexual predators & groomers? (school shooters in the west) Please get off that high horse. All I see are entitled crybabies with fragile egos trying so desperately to claim "high value" or "alpha". The men who actually have those attributes don't spend their days negging women nor do they ascribe those characteristics to themselves -- others do. Acting like you're discovering or saying something profound when it's all just pseudo-intellectualism and sexism.

I really wish men could go their own way since there's so much vitriol for the female sex, not just in words but actions. I mean, why still engage with women if you hate them? It just shows you're not as superior if you still want to be dependent on women being subservient.

But many of them were derided in their time, like Socrates . It's the parable of the prophet not being valued in his own home all over again. But then again, I'm sure you're right and I'm wrong.

I will also desist from responding to you to preserve my mental health. Enjoy the week ahead

Any man whose actions are influenced by what women say and how loudly they shout will die miserably.

Another woman will come one day and say men who date younger girls are groomers and abusers

Guys be with whomever you want even if she's a grandma. Your happiness matters

Fulaniherdmens:
If you are my friend Don’t date whom I turn down that’s how girls role.
Women’s world is a circle.
Men’s world is a Dot in that circle.


Are you sure you read the msg clearly enough. That’s why women are not men. Read the paragraph again and read my comment on it.



We all know they cony and sly in nature.

Sister, wake up osiso

fattprince:
I can read sarcasm in your reply. You know femails don't even know what they want. I've experienced this twice in the little relationships I've been in. Immediately you behave like you guys are equal bam!! They feel they are better than you and can get a better guy. But I've learnt sha.

She can't be more than 22-23. Wait till she's 30+ and has to work before she spends a dime. Dem no dey tell person

TheDarkGamer:
Superb response. I understand now.

My pleasure

Zabiboy:
I also have this thought too man...
Personally, i think it's Relative.. everyone has something they want in their own woman/wife
Funny enough for me( not interested in marriage or relationship shit), "submissiveness" doesn't seem to move me the way it moves many other men..
I dunno but i just have this thought that most women's submission is undercover gold-digging... But lets not go there tho..
Just like undercover said, anyone who doesn't want his wife to work should definitely not have a problem bearing the financial burden. But such a man has some work to do when picking a wife. if not, he'll end up with an "undercover gold-digger"

Believe me, when you find a woman who truly sees you as her lord, there's no going back.

Submission is not enslavement. It is deference and trust and, when there's doubt, faith. If you ever taste this, contentious women will feel like putting water in a fuel tank

Hyerin:
Believe it or not, I don't want my "man" to teach me interesting things, I don't want to be naive towards him. I don't want a man who is a chauvinist or condescending. I know men get off by being dominant and love the thrill and false sense of power but personally, I favour a more egalitarian style relationship where I'm treated as a partner and not a subordinate. My ideal man is someone who shares the same values and belief systems such as me; empathetic; clever but not arrogant. I know toxic masculinity has some of you in a chokehold and will call such a person a "simp". I hope I've answered your question though

I totally believe you

Hyerin:
I believe no man of actual substance is spending their time circle jerking with others on how they're so falsely persecuted in a fallacious "gynocentric society".

There's nothing like awakened either bc the patriarchy is still the default. This is just a coping mechanism to some of you bc women have rights & agency of thought in the modern age.

Women have always had rights relative to the times they existed. Society is what it is and you take what you can from the universe. The simple truth is that, the more comfortable and peaceful the world is, the more luxuries(read rights) people enjoy (read peasants and women)

If a war or apocalypse were to occur today, women's rights would drastically reduce. In fact, they woul trade those rights for security willingly. Women had, on average, more rights in the last days of the Roman Empire than in 1777 which is a more recent time in history.

Your comment about men of substance betrays your limited exposure and peurile worldview. By your logic, the likes of Socrates and Plato who spent hours daily debating top issues of the day aren't men of substance.

MJBOLT:

I like the fact that her husband is comfortable in his masculinity

TheUndercover:
With human in general, nothing is carved on stone. People change and feelings also change. But it's better for a man to be the cause of that 'awakening' in his woman than any external factors.

@Illumined939, I think I'll go with Undercover here. Moreover there are various stages of illumination, to remain the man for your woman you must always be steps ahead of her.

Remember, women leave men all the time for "better" men. Monkey-branching is a thing.

However, you have an advantage of you are a source of light

Hyerin:
And you know this how? Women aren't a monolith

I think you lot fail to take into account female socialization and social conditioning while espousing these views. I'm not here to argue but it's quite interesting you all have such a simplified way of looking at things which ultimately boils down to sex and gender relations and never something productive.

So, pray tell, and I mean this honestly. What do you look for in a man? What qualities would your ideal man have that are different from what I wrote earlier?

ubunja:
What many men think Female Masculinity is...

That's obviously an alien

Hyerin:
Wow so there's a growing manosphere aka incel culture on nairaland. Wonderful

A growing? Lol. You're, at least, 6 years too late .

Btw, where you see incel, men of value see awakened men. Is all a matter of perspective

Hyerin:
So grooming essentially and predatory behaviour. Noted

Every woman wants to be naive to the man of her dreams. She wants him to teach her interesting things. She wants to look up to him. She wants to dissolve into his arms and feel safe. Can you feel safe in the arms of any of your classmates? Be honest with yourself. Maybe unless that classmate is far ahead of the other boys in your class. Then all you girls want him, and many will gladly f*ck him secretly. Tell me I'm wrong

TheUndercover:
First of all, we should understand that the primary job of a woman is her matrimonial home, anything else is secondary. Also, every man wants peace of mind either in a relationship/marriage and their heart will always gravitate towards what provides this. This is why sometimes men love spending more time with friends in beer parlours than at home with family simply because they are avoiding their wife's troubles.

A woman's value is not necessarily money, if she is lazy, experienced, materialistic, not appreciative, always nagging, not family oriented, not submissive, can't cook, etcetera, then she's a liability and doesn't have anything to offer. If a man can have peace of mind in a particular relationship, he might not worry about the woman offering financial assistance.

If at all a job was provided for her by the husband, the job shouldn't affect how she runs her matrimonial home. Her main job is her home, the husband, and the kids, anything else is secondary. If a woman can provide this, then she's of value. Men who doesn't want their women working knows that they have to provide the basic amenities she needs and that of the house.

I stand to be corrected though.

A woman's role in life is to provide help for her husband to fulfil his world-domination mission. That's why God made Eve as a "help, suitable for" Adam.

Her job is to make his abode a charging station for him to return to do battle in the outside world. In the meantime, the man is subject to time and wear-and-tear, he cannot battle for ever. He must retire. So, he desires to leave an imprint on the world for his time spent in the world, he must be remembered, that's why he must have children or build landmarks/institutions.

A father is not just there to be paying bills like an ATM, his offspring are supposed to be "new-and-improved" versions of himself. Therefore, he must marry a woman who shares the same values as he and also understands and believes in his vision and his ability to achieve said vusion. She must also be willing to communicate same to their children.

Women are not suited to battling with the world, war is a masculine domain. How many women history-making warriors do you know throughout history? Too few. They are best deployed on the nurturing domain: nurses, midwives, etc.

When raiders and roving bands take over communities, why do they kill the men and spare the women?





Women, on the other hand, find fulfilment in breeding royalty. "Monkey no fine, but hin mama like am". The child must turn out well as far as she's concerned even if she has to put her life on the line. This is why she mates with the best males to get a child with the best chance of making it in life. If she finds this male, her ultimate goal of raising royalty is all but guaranteed.

However, royalty are good-looking, wealthy, etc, but the good-looking part is her priority when she's young because when is relatively unspoiled by life's harsh realities, so she gives it up for the dashing and dangerous alpha who has no future ambition because, well, royalty are also brave and courageous. So, she keeps trading the alpha hierarchy until she begins to understand that she's speeding towards the wall. By the time she's approaching evening newspaper status, she no longer looks for cheap thrills, she's looking for an ATM.

But if she had a good guide in her life, she would have tied down some average-looking dude(maybe even handsome) that isn't particularly alphabet would guarantee some financial stability. Instead, shes told she can have it all?


Too long already. pardon me

Nezzjnr:
Wetin be this

Dangling carrot to encourage donkeys to continue bearing unnecessary burden

Do women really love working? Do men really love working? If both genders had money without having to work which would continue working and why?

TheDarkGamer:
From an Objective point of view:

If we do not want our women to work or have jobs, why do we still complain about them asking for money? I mean, it is only fair if as a man, you do not want your partner/wife to bear any financial responsibility, then you should be able to provide her needs and wants since she would have been able to do so if she had a steady stream of income.

However, some men say they don't want their women working, but they don't want to provide the woman wants. Isn't that having double standards?

I may be wrong in my assertions but I was just thinking about this, and I need clarification.

There's a massive world of difference between providing a woman's needs and being a slave to her materialistic appetite.

No human being can have all their needs met. Even the women who work cannot meet all of their own needs, hence the need to augment with provider males'.

In fact, to follow the logical path of your question, why should we stop working women with husbands from dating other men as far as those other men also contribute in meeting their needs.

Contentment and a strong sense of self are traits every man looking to marry must vet for in a woman. You will never have every single need met, but the basics can be met. A worthy women understands her man's limits and is satisfied within what he can provide without resentment towards forfeiting opportunity costs.

Martinez39s:
As in many cases, they are projecting the the female psych on the male psych.

Men are also guilty of projecting themselves as agreeable and sweet towards women when woman want the exact opposite.

It's all a side-effect of wrong gender socialization. Straight men don't desire masculine women, straight women don't desire effeminate men

ubunja:
How To Choose A Girl.


BUILDING ON SAND.
If you see a girl that you like and you make up your mind to approach her for a relationship because she's exactly what you want in a woman; you've already lost the game before the game even started.

Going up to her, telling her how beautiful she is and how you'd be honored if she accepted you. Its the epitome of weakness.

That's not how you get and keep a girl.

Already you're chasing. Already she's the Prize. Already she has more power than you and should you date, the power difference will only increase.

BUILDING ON A ROCK.
The only way you start at the top with women, having all the advantage, holding all the cards, from the word go, is to do things the opposite way. The way that appears wrong but is actually the right way: instead of searching for a woman who fits your ideal, You should be a man who fits the woman's ideal. You should be what a woman wants. it must be about fulfilling the woman's expectation not yours. Desire must flow from the girl to you. It must not flow from you to the girl. Attraction must start in the heart of the female, not in your heart.

That's the secret to happiness. That's how you build a relationship on a foundation of rock: You make sure the woman loves you more than you love her. You must be the guy she feels she "can't live without". But She must not be the girl you feel you "cant live without". Be her fantasy don't Iet her be your fantasy. Let her chase the fantasy, but keep your feet firmly in reality.

That female who's "everything you ever dreamed of in a woman", that chick who's the "girl of your dreams", that one must be dealt with only on a lust level. As a short term fantasy. A pump and dump. Dick her, don't Heart her. Ejaculate and evacuate. Don't invest any emotion in her. No matter how beautiful. No matter how delicious.

You can not afford to love the girl that you want. You dare not chase the fantasy. Loving the girl your heart chooses is a luxury you just can't afford. Not if you value your happiness and peace of mind. If your goal is romantic success, your woman must be more invested in the romance than you. She must be the biggest shareholder in the company. She must be the one in love with you, not the other way round.

POWER DYNAMICS.
For the one who loves less is actually the one with all the power, holding all the cards and having all the advantage. The one who loves more, the one more committed, holds less of everything.

If a house is burning, the one who bought the most property cries the most. And so they're the one most concerned about preventing fires. In other words, the party most invested, most loving and most committed in the romance is the party that begs the most, compromises the most and sacrifices the most to make sure the romance stays on course.

The one who invests less of everything holds all the power for the simple reason that they can walk away any time. Never be involved in something you can't walk away from without losing gallons of tears. Women have been loving the right way since forever. When was the last time you saw a girl cry tears over a boy? Between men and women who commits suicide more over breakups? Of course the men. Because they don't know how to love properly.

HOW GIRLS LOVE.
Guys need to learn to love the way girls love.

When a girl enters into a relationship with you she's happy when you're the one that loves her not the other way around. That way she has more power in the relationship. But if it happens that she's the one that falls harder and deeper for you, she'll do the next best thing to retain some measure of power: she'll HIDE THE INTENSITY of her love for you.

A girl will love you with all her heart and be crazy for you, BUT SHE'LL NEVER SHOW IT. The girl you love never shows you the full height, depth and breadth of her love. She never lets you know the maximum temperature of her passion.

You give her your photo, she goes home and goes crazy OVER THAT PHOTO. She sleeps with it next to her heart, kisses it, even shed tears of love over the image of you. She keeps it safe and spends hours on end just looking at it, lost in adoration.

But when you come in person to see her she puts the photo away and she wears her "game face". The face you see is not going to be the face your photo saw. Gone is the dreamy look of complete total love. Gone are the tears of love. She looks at you like one who never missed you one second. Like you were not even on her mind.

A girl shows you less of the love she has for you as a strategy: TO PROTECT HERSELF. If she was truthful and did show you how deep her love for you is YOU WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE. You'll use it against her. You'll demand crazy things from her. You'll cheat on her. And because her love for you runs deep, she will find it hard to leave and easy to forgive.

So to stop you from having that power over her, she hides the true extent of her love. And because you have no idea how crazy she is for you, you never fully exploit her.

That's why girls have DIARIES. They pour their heart, soul and mind on the pages of that little book. They confess their loves, hopes and fears on it's pages. Not to the BF. And when a girl loses her diary or when another person reads it, she freaks out. Because she feels exposed.

Many a girlfriend that plays it cool before her guy is mad crazy for him in his absence. Why do you think when guys screwup, girls always say, "If only you knew how much I loved you".? It's because the girl knows the love she's been expressing is not the complete love she's been feeling. She loved the guy more than he knew and because he's leaving he'll never really know he's lost a diamond.

Men need to learn that lesson: Be crazy and drunk in love all you want, worship the very ground your woman walks on if you wish, be batshit mad for her - but whatever you choose to do DO NOT DO IT IN FRONT OF HER. When you meet her, put your "game face" on. Your poker face. Conceal your desperation. Let her be forever guessing how deep your love for her runs. Do not worship her to her face. You give her too much power over you, power she'll unfailingly use against you.

LOVE AND HAPPINESS.
The key to love and happiness is to Learn to love the one who loves you. Never try to make someone who doesn't love you love you.

That's how you lose.

That's how you spend 12 months chasing a girl who has her own eye on another dude all the while your stupid self thinking she's playing hard to get. That's how you buy a girl shoes and phones that she'll proceed to use to impress the guy her own eye is on. That's how a girl, during sex, ends up whispering another dude's name to your ear, because it's him her mind is on. Why? Because you're forcing yourself into her heart. But her heart is already occupied by another guy.

Now here is the girl you must occupy yourself with:

That girl who's crazy for you for no reason and blushes everytime she sees you. That girl who always makes excuses to hang around you. That girl always offering to do stuff for you. That girl always eager to be part of whatever you're part of. LOVE THAT ONE. She's CHASING you. You're on her mind and in her heart as we speak. She likes you already.

The women you yourself like, just pump and dump them. They're as useless as chaff. And will be as troublesome as the weeds.

Keep the women you like for LUST, but the women who like you, keep them for LOVE. A girl who likes you is a precious stone that you take and polish and adorn yourself with. But a girl you like is a common stone, one of thousands you lust after day in day out:

You take a corner you see a girl you like. You open your window you see a girl you like pass by. You enter the bus, there, sitting in the front seat, is a girl you like. You go to town you see 20 girls you like. At your school there must be 50 of these girls. At work almost every department has a girl you like. The girl you like is EVERYWHERE and what's everywhere HAS NO VALUE.

But that girl out of hundreds, who looks at you the way you have been looking at hundreds of girls, that one chick who becomes as stupid and as dumb infront of you as you become infront of the girls that you like, that girl is THE ONE for you.

You can never go wrong learning to love that one. Don't trouble yourself with the girl you like. Why? Because already HER HEART IS SET ON ANOTHER MAN. look for the one who likes you, for her heart is set on you. Such a girl's heart you don't have to win, because already its yours.

Girls are choosy as hell. But a girl who has already chosen you is a Penalty Kick you've been given, without the goalkeeper, without even the goal posts. You can't miss even if your eyes were closed.

And NO, a girl who chooses you is not cheap. A girl who's cheap is the girl you fvck for the price of a loaf of bread. That is a cheap girl. You can fvck her for a penny, even for free. But guess what? So will the next guy. And the next. And the next. On the other hand, A girl who chooses you will be easy BUT ONLY FOR YOU. She'll be cheap BUT ONLY FOR YOU. She'll be willing BUT ONLY FOR YOU. You see the difference? It's all about YOU sir.


If a girl doesn't look at you twice, there's no reason to look at her twice. Attraction is zero. The spark failed. A female knows with one look if she'll sleep with you or not. If she doesn't double check you, if her eyes don't linger, if her gaze doesn't keep coming back to you; KEEP IT MOVING. Forget her.

BUT REAL MEN DO THE CHASING??
When females chase you does it make you less manly? Less Alpha?

It does not. Don't you get jealous when women throw their panties and bras at celebs during concerts? I know you do. Do you want a girl to throw you her panties to show you she wants you? Yes? But then you'll call her a Slut! That's why she'll settle for throwing you a smile.

OK! BUT ONLY LOW QUALITY GIRLS SEEM INTERESTED IN ME!!!
If the girls whose eyes linger and whose smiles you keep getting are not of the class you want, that's an honest indicator of where you are in the Sexual Market. That's your level. You attract your class.

To get better, better yourself. To see an improvement improve yourself. To see an upgrade in the quality of girls that give you "the look", upgrade yourself. The women you attract are the women at your level. Go up a level, and the quality of females you attract will also go up a level. Simple as that.

And how do you do that?

Dress better. Walk better. Speak better.

Do everything better than you've been doing.

To top it, go get a better body. Look, You can't change your face or your height but you can very well change your body. Which is all good, for when it comes to sex, your body IS your face. Women don't lust after a handsome face. It's that 6pack and those biceps that make the vagina tingle. Why do you think women love watching Wrestling on TV?

So, hit the gym.

LET HER CHOOSE.
Letting a girl choose is how you choose a girl.

That way girls chase You. You don't chase girls. That way You play hard to get. You don't have girls playing hard to get to you. Players are Players because every girl who chooses them they accept even though they've a girl already. And girls who date Players can't easily walk away from the fvckery of it all because they fell in love first. They're invested.

That's the blueprint of dealing with women. Play the game this way and you'll be surprised how far you can go with women WITHOUT spending money. Love is free. If you do it right.

When you let girls choose you become the Prize. The Chosen. And a girl who chooses you will make it EASY for you because she wants you to win. She'll test you Yes, because she needs to assess your masculinity, but she'll root for you. She'll be lenient and give you more opportunities than you deserve. And that's very important for your chances with her.

So how do you choose a girl? By letting a girl choose you. Ignore the ones who ignore you. Pay attention only to those who pay you attention. Remember every girl wants your attention, but not every girl will give you attention. So save your attention for the girls who are prepared to give you theirs.

Your attention is free but it means a lot to women. The compliments you give willy-nilly are oxygen to their self-esteem. Your drooling looks are the validation they can't breathe without. So make sure you don't give them out freely. Be stingy with.

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This writeup lays the groundwork for the longer and more indepth "Approaching Girls With Minimum Risk Of Rejection"

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