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frog12:
a pathetic 1.5 million Naira JUST TO put yourself in jail!

It's USD4155 @ N361. Not a small amount oh....

fkj950ax:
Lagos Police is complicit.

An autopsy is free and compulsory in all non-natural death within Lagos State.
They are trying to close the case without doing any work.

The family is being shortchanged and punished at the same time.

Laziness?

EgunMogaji2:
After reading a thread on Nairaland titled (Naija to Yankee: Thoughts and Experience), I thought I should document my move in the opposite direction. I thought this would make for a nice read because it’s the opposite of what’s going on now with everyone seemingly fleeing Nigeria.

I left Nigeria in July 1986 to get a degree in aviation and complete training on becoming a commercial airline pilot. Having never seen a computer before I left Nigeria I was instantly hooked by computers and programming when arrived in the USA and I changed my course to computer science. My first program I leant was Turbo Pascal.

But I’m jumping ahead. Let’s go back to 1986.

Stay tuned.

Copied from Village Headmaster Forums @ http://forums.villageheadmaster.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=52#p59

The British left nigeria in 1960. By 1986 it was in decline but still okay. By 2021 it's now a shithole. So the question is why can't the black man manage their countries?

1nigeriamyfoot:
You've said it all


To make it in Nigeria is very difficult for a common man except through grace of God

Anybody who's opportuned to leave should do so and not be decieved by what they read online

How could someone who spent 31yrs in usa motivate me to stay back in Nigeria! Someone who left Nigeria even when the system is still ok compared to what we have on ground now

Is it everyone who could afford to buy a power generating set?

Is it everyone who could afford to drill borehole?

Is is everyone who will be able to go to standard private hospital when they are sick?

The white man did not leave Nigeria in a much better state than it is today

JIREN01:
You lost it when you said a street sweeper lives a better life than a perm sec in Nigeria. You feel Canada is a paradise with heavenly mana? If you're having it extremely tough here in Nigeria, no advise is better than relocating, when you have the chance. But please, let's stop making baseless and ignorant assumptions; a street sweeper and a perm sec? Really? You have never travelled out of Nigeria, have you?

What he meant is the street sweeper has an emergency he calls ambulance which arrives in 15mins or less. Perm secretary will be told the ambulance driver is not on seat that they will start coming whenever he comes....

roteblomen:
Not move per se, but I've been in Nigeria now for one month, and I'm enjoying every part of it. It has everything to do with mindset. If you see the cup half full or half empty. Before coming, I identified the major issue that will make my life easy and tackled them from the start.

For me it was power, logistics, and western-like comfort. Also, I'll try not to move around often unless necessary, to avoid traffic frustrations and bad road bumping. In these regards, getting a car, an AC in my whole apartment, house renovation and inverter was my goal. To have 100% uninterrupted power, and not being dealt with by the hot sun. My food stuff I buy either through jumia or send someone, and my office is in one of the bedrooms in my apartment.

I'm still working on all these, but these are the things one needs to do to make Nigeria less frustrating. I have an online business, so I don't really have to go anywhere. With a western income in a country like Nigeria, you'll enjoy yourself everyday. But make sure you have the ability to go back if needed, for stuff like medical care and much more.

Right now, I see Nigeria like a holiday resort, I enjoy everyday of it. Like I said earlier, its about if you see the glass half full, or half empty, a lot have to do with your mindset. If you're the type that expect perfection in everything and complains a lot, then Nigeria is not for you, because you'll be frustrated every single seconds. Particularly, I enjoy the food, and that everyone looks like me. Unless I intentionally speak with a foreign accent, no one knows I'm from anywhere, and I like that invisibility.

Also, do not forget that Nigeria contains about 36 states. You don't have to live in Lagos, Abuja or port Harcourt to enjoy Nigeria, I'm in Enugu now and this city is not only peaceful, but ridiculously cheap to live in. My uncle rent a duplex in trans ekulu area for about 500k per year, that's about 1000 us dollars. For reference, I pay 1.100 USD monthly for a flat in Amsterdam, so you see, the difference?

To summarise, just have an income from abroad, get a car for mobility, a good house in a safe area, renovate your house to western standards, outsource unnecessary things such as laundry and food stockings, and enjoy your life. Everyday will feel like holiday in Nigeria with this formula. Naija sweet.

Though I'm from the North I have a friend or two in Enugu and they say the good parts of Enugu like independence layout are just as expensive as Lagos and sometimes more expensive....

Nigeria has all round summer and this is something those going to Canada/ Europe dont understand....

Also low cost pressure - rent is low compared to Europe....

I'm sure u are also glued to da naija babes too

mrsjoanalege:
SOURCE: https://www.sunnewsonline.com/enugu-court-remands-two-siblings-for-murder/

According to the reports, Chiamaka conspired with her brother to kill Ijeoma for allegedly having an affair with her boyfriend.

Chiamaka allegedly lured Ijeoma by inviting her for a makeup job.

On getting there and suspecting foul play, Ijeoma quickly sent a message to a friend, before being forced to drink a poisoned

black people and wickedness are like 1 and 2.... i know theres wickedness everywhere but that of blacks is more than international average....

roteblomen:
I pray so. That sickness shouldn't be an issue, but in this situation, here comes the concept of emergency funds. So if you have to buy a flight tonight and leave, then that shouldn't be an issue. It's all about preparation.

About Nigerian being wicked, well, I can also say that the Germans, Ghanaians, Albanians (or insert any country) are wicked, and l will be correct. There will always be wicked folks in every population, it's left for one to avoid weak people (being wicked is a symptom of weakness), help them if you can and move on.

All in all, I choose to see the brighter sides, hang out with families and focus on my business.

Lots die before they can get to Europe.... covid is an example - even top government folks couldn't fly out....

oluolu23:
With this foolish write up, u need a serious brain check. comparing an organized society with set of criminal minded leaders in power killing their innocent civilians on daily basis, looting the treasury continuously without the masses mercy.

the populace are just as criminally minded as their leaders.....

roteblomen:
Not move per se, but I've been in Nigeria now for one month, and I'm enjoying every part of it. It has everything to do with mindset. If you see the cup half full or half empty. Before coming, I identified the major issue that will make my life easy and tackled them from the start.

For me it was power, logistics, and western-like comfort. Also, I'll try not to move around often unless necessary, to avoid traffic frustrations and bad road bumping. In these regards, getting a car, an AC in my whole apartment, house renovation and inverter was my goal. To have 100% uninterrupted power, and not being dealt with by the hot sun. My food stuff I buy either through jumia or send someone, and my office is in one of the bedrooms in my apartment.

I'm still working on all these, but these are the things one needs to do to make Nigeria less frustrating. I have an online business, so I don't really have to go anywhere. With a western income in a country like Nigeria, you'll enjoy yourself everyday. But make sure you have the ability to go back if needed, for stuff like medical care and much more.

Right now, I see Nigeria like a holiday resort, I enjoy everyday of it. Like I said earlier, its about if you see the glass half full, or half empty, a lot have to do with your mindset. If you're the type that expect perfection in everything and complains a lot, then Nigeria is not for you, because you'll be frustrated every single seconds. Particularly, I enjoy the food, and that everyone looks like me. Unless I intentionally speak with a foreign accent, no one knows I'm from anywhere, and I like that invisibility.

Also, do not forget that Nigeria contains about 36 states. You don't have to live in Lagos, Abuja or port Harcourt to enjoy Nigeria, I'm in Enugu now and this city is not only peaceful, but ridiculously cheap to live in. My uncle rent a duplex in trans ekulu area for about 500k per year, that's about 1000 us dollars. For reference, I pay 1.100 USD monthly for a flat in Amsterdam, so you see, the difference?

To summarise, just have an income from abroad, get a car for mobility, a good house in a safe area, renovate your house to western standards, outsource unnecessary things such as laundry and food stockings, and enjoy your life. Everyday will feel like holiday in Nigeria with this formula. Naija sweet.

Just pray you do not have a serious medical emergency - they will pass you from one hospital to another as condition worsens.... also from your post, you seem single - Nigeria can be great for a single person - a family complicates things as you now also have to watch out for your family including their medical care....

Also foreign income can dry up fast....

finally the major issue with nigeria is that its inhabitants are a wicked set of people and the average nigerian is not a good person - this factor alone over time will ruin your experience.....

But I agree your plan is a nice concept....

Princewill1:
The high successes recorded by dubious politicians, fraudulent pastors and ponzi scheme operators in Nigeria are living proofs that Nigerians can be so gullible. We can easily be deceived. The astronomical hype on Canada is the latest deceit in town. Here are things you need to know before immigrating.

1. The list of richest Nigerians is filled with Nigerians living at home. You're more likely to make it into Forbes if you live in Nigeria. At least that's what the stat shows, whether people making into Forbes in Nigeria are engaging in corrupt practices is a story for another day. The odds of becoming a dollar billionaire favours those at home . No Diaspora Nigerian has ever made it into Forbes billionaire list.

2. There are more money to be made in a developing economy than in a developed economy. That's why as you're rushing out of the country, Lebanese, Indians and Chinese are rushing in. Only few will understand. You're sitting on the biggest market in Africa yet you haven't realize this but the Lebanese and the Indians knew this.

3. If you are the type who don't fancy working for others, it's much more easier to own a business in Nigeria than in Canada/US. Western countries were set up for the 99% populace to work for 1% elites. Their education systems were designed to produce workforce for the rat race. Not to create employers of labour.

4. It's stupidity to resign from a high-paying job in Nigeria in a bid to relocate to Canada/US. Your eyes will get clear up when you start facing the hard realities in Canada. Those who had made this mistake in the past are ashamed to come on social media to talk about it. The ones talking on Twitter are 'freshers' who just arrived.

5. If you want to secure 2nd passport for your kids, you don't necessarily need to immigrate to achieve this. There are other ways, one method is overseas child birth.

6. You're 5x more likely to be shot and rubbed in New York than in Lagos. Poor neighborhoods all over the world has more crime rates. The thing is, when you finally made it in Nigeria,you can move to high brow areas with lesser crime.

7. Nigerians are spending up to 8millions ($21k) and above to immigrate to Canada/US whereas an average canadian or American citizen can't boast of $10k in their bank A/C's. They live pay check to pay check.

8. Some Nigerians claims that they ain't relocating because of the money but because of good infrastructure, good health care system, value for their money etc. That's a lie! 98% of Nigerians who're eager to travel out are relocating because of economic reasons. There are good infrastructure, good health care system and value for money in countries like Kuwait, Russia, Brazil, South Korea, Chile etc but Nigerians ain't trooping there, indicating that their preference for Canada/US is purely based on economic reasons.

9. It's cheaper to live in Nigeria. Canada/US promises higher minimum wage but the system will still take it away from you. It's like giving you with one hand and taking from you with another. $2k (N760k) will pay for your one year rent of 2 bedrooms apartment in a good location in Nigeria but same amount will only fetch you one month rent of a match box apartment in Canada/US.

10. This is not to stop you from traveling out but to inform you on the true realities. Economic immigration should be left for lower or working class who're struggling or to young lads who wants to school abroad and thereafter further their career overseas. Not to deceive Nigerians already earning good in corporate offices in Nigeria to resign and relocate where they will be employed as security guards or to deceive business owners who's businesses are thriving in Nigeria to close down business and relocate. Don't let them deceive you with the hype. Money don't grow on trees anywhere in the world.

You might be a billionnaire in Nigeria but what happens if you are sick?? All your money cant save you never mind the silly mistakes done by doctors/ nurses in nigeria e.g. frequent misdiagnosis. Nigerians are obsessed with being billionnaires. In Canada you may not be a millionnaire but you wont beg either and you get all the things that make life worth living without being a "billionnaire".

You mention New York - new york is only dangerous because it has been taken over by blacks, hispanics etc.

Litmus:
Good, CNN needs to maintain its high standards even when dealing with African Nations. This Muhammed guy should continue to pressure them. Too often many of these Western news cooperations have such little regard for African Nations that they neglect rigor when preparing news items concerning the relevant African Nations. Instead they lazily return to well-worn stereotypes used in references to Africa that have more in common with thire racist sentiments than facts.

Just picture them:

'Oh it's Nigeria is it', Someone at CNN probably said, 'known for the corruption label we gave them for our referencing purposes. Africans are they, Africa full of banana republics run, no doubt by some pot bellied Cap-it-tan guy that kills his own people.'

'Ed, Cap-it-tan, is South America'

'Who cares, Frank. Hold on the resarch department, save money'.

' Scott's not going to happy, this was his chance for a trip'

'He'll get his chance, Afghanistan, ha, ha'.

'Yeah, lol'

'Now, Nigeria. No doubt the ruling despot/ junta or whatever most likely killed lots of people at that Lekki and even if he didn't we would be doing his people a favour by accusing him of going so. And anyway, what can they do, Nigeria has no friends, arrogant cunts'.

I actually agree with you.....

But Africa should also develop powerful media that will castigate poor European states

notice how they have avoided this thread... the black man hates any form of criticism.... they also dont profer real solutions....

Ayetobi92:
lol, can you say this with a straight face��

yes. if what she wears "provokes" you then look the other way....

Rugaria:
What's your point? Black people have black brains?

nope. thats a racist thing to say!

My point is im sure africa will get better some day...

Kalatium:
I disagree with you.

There is no over hype of the Silhouette Challenge. People are just stating the facts.

In future other depraving things will come and we will still talk about it.

While i understand the side you are coming from, it does not mean we should keep quiet about it.

Is just like saying the issue of indecent dressing is being over hyped. And we should worry about other important issues.

Does that mean we should do away with morality?

theres nothing like indecent dressing; a woman is free to wear whatever she wants....

Rugaria:
Ghanaians, South Africans, kenyans are running their affairs better... Sometimes we argue as if black Africa begins and ends in Nigeria or West Africa

south africa was built by whites....

ghana is still a shit hole. same as kenya. the only reason these countries are even developing a bit is because of chinese investment in them.....

Rugaria:
The main problem with Nigeria is not the absence of good laws.. it is the unwillingness of the government and her institutions to vigorously enforce her laws. . What you noticed can only happen in Nigeria. It's in Nigeria that a man might commit murder, get arrested by the police, but still manage to get "bail" and subsequently evade justice! Many violent criminals get arrested and released at will in this country, so much so they become career criminals, aware that irrespective of their heineous crimes, they will still find a way to manipulate a broken system to wriggle out of jail if nabbed! And that's why crimes are high! The realisation that purnishment will NEVER be severe will always embolden vicious characters willing to take to crime..

The govt and her institutions is run by BLACKS that's why it can't be vigorously enforced. If it hasn't been vigorously enforced for the past 60 years what will change that will make it start now?? The only thing we can do is call in Chinese or oyinbos to fix this country

VaselineCrew:
The don't have to shot them though.

Why go from zero enforcement all the way to draconian punishment?

What I'm saying is just be like a half decent country, just a half decent country, chai.

A half decent country with a police force that GIVES CHASE, PULLS PEOPLE OVER, WRITES TICKETS, IMPOUNDS VEHICLES, VERIFIES LICENSES ON THE SPOT...

Not a police force that either does nothing, or goes right to the extreme to shot people due to their laziness...

and they can shoot stubborn drivers that don't want to take a ticket with a STUN GUN, which every police officer in Nigeria should have at this point if we were a half decent country.

Giving chase, pulling over etc won't happen becos it's WORK.....

tunapawizzy:
Nigerians will break traffic light, dispose trash inappropriately but will curse politicians for stealing money

And say the problem with Nigeria is "bad leaders"

Empiree:
Don't mind clown that was trying to defend indefensible. They are still trying to deny obvious facts.

Can you imagine people running red light and police sat on the side chatting rubbish and probably drinking ogogoro. If the light didn't work, don't they have local authorities in charge of these basic things?. Something is fundamentally wrong with Black people. They don't want to be criticized. Criticisms make you grow but many don't like self assessment. They rather shift the blames on Whites.

Many drainage and sewer systems set up during colonial era were not maintained and are abandoned. They are waiting for White to return to fix them. The only things Black people know is loot money, kill one another, favoritism and tribal discrimination.

In decades Nigeria can not fix common electricity. The country of Georgia had their Independence in 1991. In late 90s to early 2001 they used to have 2hrs electricity. Twenty years later they built their country and the country has 24hrs stable electricity. But the so called giant of africa is useless with bunch of myopic people.

They always say Africa isn't good because "Africa doesn't have strong institutions" - but who runs those institutions - it's Nigerians!

See police isn't doing their job in the case mentioned in this thread simply because they can't be bothered. Hospital staff same. Nepa staff same. Sum them all up together and you have a shithole

Empiree:
this is what the issue is(attachment). If I talk now some Nigerians would be upset. Majority of Black people are moda4kin stupid

It has become obvious that negroes cannot build a functioning society

Originalsly:
Only a fool will be waiting 10 minutes for a traffic light to change before realizing it is not working. One waiting for an hour is a complete idiot.
Don't know why we always try to find a way to justify wrong doings... always can explain. Then when we travel abroad... we adapt by force since there is enforcement and consequences.... fines in particular.. and prison time. Saturday... Nigerian guy made an illegal left... traffic was very light... but unmarked Police car was parked among other cars monitoring the intersection... he turned... Police immediately pulled behind with lights on and the "whoop whoop" siren.... he continued driving and the Police pulled around him and cut him off. Heard him explaining... but I already know his charges and fines will increase.
Our problem is law enforcement. This one ran red light.

"Our problem is law enforcement" - but the law enforcement guys are just like the masses for the most part.....

VaselineCrew:
Yesterday in Lekki, I saw upwards of 10 cars running a certain RED light at around Jakande area while I was waiting my light to turn GREEN.

What made this especially painful is that there was a squad of police right besides the traffic light. What were they doing? They were just sitting down and gisting on their pickup.

Can you imagine? In what other country will people run red lights right in front of police and the police will just be laughing with Ak47s in their hands? and it wasn't just one car, but multiple cars totally disregarding their RED lights.

Are we so primitive that we are now totally averse to Law and Order in this land? That the police won't even make an attempt to maintain traffic rules unless at their own convenience? Unless traffic is at a standstill via checkpoints? is that they only time police would do traffic work?

Imagine how dangerous it is to be driving with confidence because the light in front of you has turned GREEN, not knowing that a MANIAC is about to smash into you because he ran his RED light and worse still police doesn't give a flying fvk

I would have taken a picture and posted here, it was such a disgusting sight as some of the cars that ran red lights drove right past the police squad.

How can we have such a useless police squad that can't even GIVE CHASE? What good is a police squad if all they do is park their car at a junction and gist inside?

What good is that?

Oh my Nigeria...


God helps us!

Why do you think there is no developed black majority country?

[quote author=shiwex post=98667275][/quote]Is it any wonder the country is not developed? yet the love blaming "leaders"

valenu:
Americans are not rushing to Nigeria because Nigeria has failed. Your Fulani leaders have made Nigeria fail. Improve in economy and see how they will rush to Nigeria.

It's Nigerians themselves that caused Nigeria to fail. A wicked self centered a d cursed ppl.

fabolouz1:
The employer must have trusted her to the extent of giving her the card to use for withdrawals and she betrayed that trust .
Whenever you give someone your card to make withdrawal on your behalf ,change it afterwards .

trust has limits.... there is such a thing as foolish trust. an example of foolish trust is trusting a poor person (and you are a rich person in the scenario).

Starzo:
what did i.jusy hear u say??...a women is less likely to murder another woman??

I rest my case
you clearly don't know the gender u r talking about

.....

Starzo:
what did i.jusy hear u say??...a women is less likely to murder another woman??

I rest my case
you clearly don't know the gender u r talking about

Keep saving face. Police records of all major world police departments are there for all to see.
Men account for over 95% of brutal violent crimes in every world city

Starzo:
nothing women can be evil, women are more evil

it's like you've never been on the receiving end of female evils. Only then will u realize that men are semi Angels compared to these women

I'm not speaking of evil. I'm speaking specifically of violence....and I'm not speaking of violence between the genders... in speaking of man - man and woman - woman.

A woman is less likely to murder another woman.

But a man is very likely to murder another man.

Starzo:
women are far worse
they'd hurt both the body and soul
they're evil knows no bounds. it comes from a very dark place

its not a competition who is worse...
the truth remains that murder and brutality is largely in the domain of males.... but women can be evil too of course.