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sexylassie2:
I am not a feminist but respect is earned, if a man wants to be head of the house then he should act like one and take responsibility accordingly, shouldn't complain when I have 2 million in my account and still needs his money to buy things in the house.

Nigerian history is filled with men changing the political landscape reason is that most men and women take seriously the word of a man.

Funmilayo Ransome Kuti, madam tinubu,Magaret Ekpo,Hajia sawaba,Queen Amina,Aba women,Warri Women e.t.c. These were real woMEN!!

Most men you would readily point to as revolutionaries in naija,I would rather beg to differ.

sexylassie2:
I am not being sexist, I am being realistic, men have always been the fore front of development and change in a system while the women support.

Do you agree that men are and should be the head and the woman should compliment? Please answer this

Don't let the feminist hear u else your head will be called for.

Change agents can be anyone, regardless of gender. History is replete with countless women who have made changes in society.

I mind the way I use the term revolution on fora such as this so DSS won't start looking for person papa

sexylassie2:
But the el zakzaky followers are still protesting.

It seems the men here love excuses, if you want to be known in Nigerian history, be rich or become a future govt appointee, start protesting now, fortune always favour the bold.

I can tell you that sowore will be a future govt appointee. I am sure, he was once lobbied. I guess he rejected it.

See all those men who fought for Niger delta agitation from ken sari wiwa to asari even tompolo,they are all enjoying now.

Nigeria system is organised in a way that if you make noise, there is big possibility that you will surely receive something in the end.

You are kinda right, however your sexist approach to a revolutionary struggle of any kind is what many would find funny. >:

I really wouldn't bother about breaking a sweat thinking about what's to come.

Oga this is naija,things will most likely return to normal after all this cools off say after a month.

There are still opportunities for e hailing as there have ever been.

Car pooling in it's real form cannot work in naija, except for people already acquainted with each other and people already share fares sharing same ride.

The curfew cannot work in Lagos,all those talk by govt is just what it is, talk!! at worst people will always find a way round it.

I agree everyone needs to be able to think out of the box, I for one is already going interstate and those guys are still cashing out massive despite the lockdown,how much more when it's relaxed.

Need I say, stay safe guys,that's the most important and logical business sense anyone can have right now!!

confusedworld17:
How can she reach you to seal the deal?

07019416864

BAZ001:
Exactly it's the people. A Nigerian was buried in USA this week. The man died of covid19 they put him in double casket.
All the families that went for the burial were in their cars , church and friends followed d corpse from morgue to cemetery but didn't step out of their cars. Only the pastor (Nigerian) and wife of deceased and two family were outside.
Now do you think any government told them not to go out of their cars? NO but they all know that this thing dt killed this man will kill us too if not careful.

I bet if that fire incident happened in lekki/ikoyi or some part of Lagos the crowd won't be that much, they will come out look and observe if it will get to them, if not they will run back and ask all members of family to stay inside.

That doesn't mean there aren't ignorant or wilfully deviant people in the US also, however the level of enlightment isn't same as here if we have to compare.

This are people who were majorly birthed in a civilised and working system[b].A system brought about by their goverment overtime[/b], they have evolved over the years ahead of us here.

The people have organized themselves and set appropriate value systems which is been upheld and guarded by the GOVERNMENT!!

Nigerians are majorly in survival mode and when u have this kind of situation chaos is inevitable as we have it, no one cares about the larger society,it's all about me and how to get over the rest,what you can call survival of the fittest.

If u live in an organized, law abiding society,ur value systems will change. Take an Uber driver and a yellow cab driver for example. The former goes about his business in a professional,elightened and organized manner,but the latter does is in a crude, ignorant and disorganized way.

Aren't they in the same society? But the former is guided by rules he must adhere to otherwise he will get sanctioned, while the latter has no strict enforceable rules in the conduct of his business.

dapotemi:
Boss, I need to enter v.i tomorrow by 9am.My MD just called me to come and fix some stuff. I will be coming frm ketu. I no get any permit to drive and I want to drive pls do you think it's worth it, with d roadblock and all that. Advice pls

The security checks are often stricter in the mornings. But relaxes a bit after noon!!

A bit I said o!! I still see them holding cars even in the evenings.

sexylassie2:
I will say this

Old people stuck in the 70s is our problem in Nigeria

Anyway, Buhari is the last of the popular generals in Nigeria.

After Buhari a new corp of Nigeria Leaders will be created.

Maybe we will move forward after 2023.

Let's hope, but with the way things are at the moment, I won't be too optimistic about it.

This country is shithole personified,it will take a miracle to change things.

confusedworld17:
I can’t take this offer since I no get pass.
Pick up: Very close to baruwa bus stop. Ipaja
Time: 10 am tomorrow morning.
Destination: Chevron.
Quote me if you have pass and stays around

No P!!

hefelove:
Yes boss I understand, that's y I said na Naija way, I'm not blaming the government too. Lol I just remembered how they even handled Abba Kyra abi what's his name just remembered how they buried him

What more to justify an irresponsible goverment?

What Happened to leading by example? But with our government,it's more of "do what I say not what I do" and u expect people to take them serious

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Anybody who stood in that crowd, without Social distancing himself, and wearing a nose mask is obviously Ignorant

It has nothing to do with education. [/color]

Your opinion, I guess!!

Felicity0001:
More reason the FGN resulted to be selective with the sharing of paliatives because even those with a bag of rice, beans and millions in their account will still que up in the name of "na national cake".

Oga nothing for you go buy u get money.

baba abeg,I Noh get money o, the useless lockdown by our useless goverment don dissipate me!!

I am not stoical in my reasoning!!

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You are no longer making sense

Choosing a lockdown extension or not is an opinion. I don't have the power to enforce any, and neither do you. You should learn when to separate your emotions from an argument.

That said, I won't quote you anymore on this again.

Be well bro [/color]

Try to be less condescending in stating ur opinions.

You shouldn't stereotype everyone that came out in ogba as ignorant or without senses.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The punishment of possible death is probably greater than any fine.

If they like, they should open their nose and mouths and come out on Monday.

When the person catches it, start having the symptoms and NCDC number is switched off, he/she will have sense when/if he recovers

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I thought you rather the lockdown continue, I think you should stick with that and tell us how we can make it work. While you are practicing what you are preaching of course

izzou:
[color=royalblue]And I am saying they should have protected themselves...

If the whole of Ifako Ijaiye wants to come out, no wahala....They should protect themselves[/color]

I find your argument rather condescending,I must confess!!

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I definitely know they'll come out. I have no problem with them coming out

But why not protect yourself while coming to see?

Just one Covid-19 carrier in that crowd, and we will have another batch of fresh cases and very-difficult-to-track contacts[/color]

The goverment should make strict laws on self protection this period and enforce accordingly,also continue the massive sensitisation of people on the need to protect themselves this period.

Germany has just imposed a fine on people not wearing face masks in certain places and times,if Nigerians know that they can be arrested and penalised for not protecting themselves or not keeping safe physical social distancing,no one will leave their houses without masks or gloves by Monday.

Seat belts have been in cars like forever without Nigerians regarding it's use as important but since the goverment started enforcing it's usage , everyone by default now uses it while driving.

Gazzuzzlogistic:
Fire is like snakes on front page, every one will want to go see it

Make him lock himself for inside house if such happens in his neighborhood.

hefelove:
Errmm let's take a look at it this way, for example, u heard a loud bang in your hood, and the next thing u started hearing fire!!!! One thing I'm sure of is that you want surely want to come out and look at where the fire is coming from just to make sure your house is safe. Same thing goes to every other person in your hood, before you know it, millions of people don dey your street Bros na Naija way be this

Leave them make Dem continue to live in denial,trying to hide behind a one finger!!

Carshopper:
We appreciate

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We say thanks to all support we getting

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izzou:
[color=royalblue]For every new comment you make, you bring up something different. That's why it's difficult to engage you in a discussion

Is it the government that asked over 2000 people to gather at one spot to watch a petrol station burn without social distancing or face masks? Look at the crowd in that picture. Maybe people from Obawole came to watch sef....What a shame

This is the exact reason I am for the lockdown. A lot of Lagosians (95%) are ignorant, and most of them fall within the poor people category. Even if they catch the virus, they will definitely find it difficult to isolate because of the poverty.

I'm sure if this was Kano or Borno, we would be seeing comments calling them ignorant, aboki, foolish people....But now that's it's Lagos, it's the government's fault

The lockdown has been lifted, and the curfew won't work. You know what that means? Everybody is on his own. Let's all go and hustle and hope on our Chi to save us.

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All my arguments sir ,still points to the fact that good responsible governance is lacking in Nigeria,hence the reason for things like what Happened in Ogba.

If people know they will get sanctioned for going out and being part of such mass gathering or even stepping out without some self protection and all, people will rein themselves in and stay guided.

If people know that their goverment truly cares about them and that the much touted palliatives will go round as it should for the intended purpose, people will adhere to the guidelines and trust goverment.

If people knew goverment was responsible,they won't result to self help.

Also sir, I don't believe goverment is seeking to lift the lockdown cos people are hungry but cos goverment is going broke and the future is rather bleak for the economy worse than ever.

Parochialism is the order of the day and no genuine altruism whatsoever from our government.

cindybaby22:
Please don't just stretch this argument. Unless u are not being truthful to yourself!
The average Nigerian will never adhere to simple instructions. When people fail to queue up at ATM, fail to renew car papers, fail to obey traffic light, how do u blame government for such? Same case is playing out in this fire incident & it got nothing to do with government! Let's take responsibility for once as a people & stop blaming government for everything! It's sickening!
Have u taken time to watch America documentaries on YouTube? U need to & see how their citizens also help government. A stubborn child will always find a way to blame his/her parents, that's our case.

I so much like the parent stubborn child analogy you just gave. A child's upbringing will most times reflects in how they turn out.

If you have the same kind of incompetent goverment we have in Nigeria in America,America will also be as chaotic as Nigeria.

Leadership as a huge role to play in the development of society,UAE,Singapore,Cuba, Malaysia etc are very obvious examples,can you compare the governments of these places with the disastrous one we have here.

BAZ001:
Watch the video below or go to YouTube

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/04/video-moment-firefighter-truck-arrives-nnpc-fire-scene-at-ogba-lagos/

I agree there would be some few disgruntled elements in situations like this which is absolutely wrong and irrational, but you would agree that this is a reflection of the anger people have against the goverment for it's several failures to the citizens. The country is boiling up and and chaos is apparent if goverment won't live to it's responsibilities

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The moment I saw him blame the government for not testing people, and still blame the government when the people came out to just watch a petrol station burn without any protective measures, I removed my hands off his matter

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I am still waiting for any sane excuse why we are lagging so far behind in covid-19 testing compared to even smaller African countries.

What have we been doing so far,since the lockdown started,other than the stay at home because other countries are staying at home BS rhetoric we have been hearing all month long?

I refuse to be part of the stoic reality many of you pro lockdown people are in.

cindybaby22:
Don't u people ever get tired of blaming government for everything? How is government responsible for this? Smh

Pls tell me,do we have responsible goverment in this country? What we have is a totally defective system where the people have lost every iota of trust in the system and would you blame them?

Nigeria is a lawless country not by default but by the manifest iresponsibilty of government. If you have laws in place with enforcement, people will naturally fall in line and there would be order.

If the problem of incompetence is sorted at the top, dealing with those at the bottom would be easy.

BAZ001:
You are blaming government for this?
Government say stay at home , maintain social distance, wear mask ... etc
How would government enforce it?

Fire started in NNPC and fire services came with their Truck but your Ogba people began to stone d truck.
If you were at home would you have been in d crowd ?

Nope, I probably wouldn't have.

Do you have proof people were stoning the fire trucks or their men?

Yes I blame goverment because we have allowed the country drift for too long.

Let's have responsible governance,we will get compliant citizens. Take the lockdown for example, you are being asked to stay at home but goverment officials and other well placed people are moving about with ease for no just reason.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Okay bro
I do not have the strength to argue with you this morning[/color]

I also didn't have time yesterday!!

RIP to him, I know him, though not a fan!!

InfinityEstates:
It's been found...

Of course,funny someone would intend to pilfer under such circumstances.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This was Ogba after the NNPC fire incident.

They really observed social distancing and wore the necessary kits to protect themselves.

Even if the government is failing us, I'm happy the people are not ignorant, and are taking care of their lives too.

With Nigerians like these, I'm most confident we will manage the Covid-19 even after the lockdown

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There was a huge fire in a fuel station with explosions and what do you expect, people should sit their arses at home in the name of lock down when disaster is lurking right in your backyard. This incident happened quite a few blocks from where I stay, though I wasn't home.

This is typical naija for you and it could happen anywhere. Real physical social distancing will be very difficult to achieve in Africa and even more so in one of the most densely populated city in the world.

This is still a pointer to the manifest failures of the goverment. The system has failed everyone and will continue to.What you see there is palpable fear in the people thinking the fire could raise down the whole neighborhood, though misplaced,I must confess.Abule Ado still readily comes to mind.

Goverment should make laws and enforce them,if laws are in place and appropriate sanctions applied to deviants, everyone would fall in line.But what do we have,lacuna everywhere due to iresponsibilty of government.

abeg o! Somebody made away with a red 2008 Range Rover sport from the car lot next to the fuel station while trying to evacuate the cars during the fire, abeg we dey find am.This is no joke!!

What's annoying though,is the abysmally low levels of testing across the country despite several weeks of lockdown and humongous amounts of monies claimed to have been spent in tackling this pandemic.

The government is failing us and it reeks incompetence on their part. The point blank truth is that this government are incapable of containing this disease.

No testing, no effective contact tracing, no proaction only reation,no concise plan on how to get the citizens and the economy back on their feet, absolutely nothing!!

All we are just doing is sitting on our arses and waiting for other countries to come up with a cure.This goverment are even more confused than u and i on how to tackle this pandemic, its so bloody obvious from their body language.

This is why i am totally against the lockdown here in Nigeria because apparently it's been a bloody waste of time and resources and unimaginably hard on the populace.

Would you continue to sit in a bus with an incopetent driver at the wheels? Won't you rather get out or possibly take over the wheels. My destiny is sure in my hands, don't know about you guys!!

The lockdown relaxation and imposition of curfews is relative to states based on the severity of the pandemic. It's not blanket fiat for the entire country.

The governors of each state are at liberty to effect these measures as they seem necessary on a state by state basis.

Lagos, Abuja and say Port Harcourt are different from most other states we have in the country and what can work in less commercially active states of say Ekiti,Ebonyi or Jigawa might not be exactly applicable here.

missimelda01:
Do you have to be a 'church goer' to be a practicing Christian? Don't confuse yourself.

A practicing Christian is rather relative,so different analogies can apply.

What can be more confusing than religion itself?