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blackweaver:
even though mint is based on ubuntu i have to disagree with you; for one thing the
default ubuntu installation doesn't invlude propriety media codecs like mp3 support;
besides mint is supposed to be easier to use another difference is the fact that ubuntu
no longer uses /etc/inittab; instead it uses something called upstart in starting up
(and i'm not talking about the bootloader) i don't know if any other distro has also adopted upstart
and then ubuntu has wubi -- the windows installer which mint does not have;

personally i prefer ubuntu, i like the colors better and because ubuntu has a wider customer and
support base you are more likely to get support for it than mint

AFAIK Linux mint uses upstart too. Linux based on ubuntu (although there are plans to base it off debian but i dont see that happening anytime soon) and every release of Mint is based on a version of ubuntu e.g Elyssa LTS is based on Ubuntu Hardy Heron LTS while Mint Felicia (whats with the p0rn star names) is based on Intrepid Ibex. most of Mints modifications of ubuntu are mere GUI, artwork, and applications that comes pre-installed (like thunderbird in place of evolution) anyway i love linux mint and prefer always recommend it to newbies ahead of ubuntu because of the ease of use and the mint menu which is similar to what you have on windows vista (which is actually a close to the suse slab)

about upstart i still prefer the BSD-style' init framework which is better organised since you have one /etc/rc.conf to point to scripts within a single directory (etc/rc.d/) for all system services, regardless of runlevel. its makes it very easy to monitor what starts and doesnt in your pc this is why ArchLInux Rock

@dakmanzero dude where have u been all this while, good to see that u still patrol this part, take care mate

why not take your wares to the technology market section or even nairalist? this section is for giving support.

after all is done ,  this is how ubuntu jaunty netbook remix   looks like on my compaq mini 700

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/3472998047_2fa0393eb9_o_d.png

Ubuntu Netbook Remix is an official distribution of Ubuntu for netbooks, optimized for use with the Intel Atom processor.It is based on the standard (full version e.g. Ubuntu 9.04) Ubuntu Desktop distribution, but adds a window picker and an application launcher optimized for netbooks like the eeepc, the acer aspire or hp mini

can be downloaded from here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook Its completely free of charge , i am currently working on a guide on how to install and configure the ubuntu netbook edition on your netbook.

flyuche:
I was just about to upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 when my starcomms subcription expired.

u might want to hold on a bit , although ubuntu 9.04 has been released and its quite stable. just like every OS the initial release could be quite buggy but in like a month into the release some of this rough edges would be fixed with updates. so whatever version of ubuntu works for u. stick to it and wait for the jaunty dust to settle.

esquire:
@Bigbrova the tutorial is nice.

@smart$boy
The eaasiest way to get it working is through a usb cable once you plug in the cable and you choose nokia mode from your phone immediately network manager will dectect ur phone as nokia 5300 and will as you to click configure and all u are required to do is to choose zain and chikena thats it you are only under 5 sec no installation of pc suite ir watever. Peace

@esquire you are very right, i have forgotten that using modem has on ubuntu is now dead easy thanks to network manager 7, my bad, i still live in the good ol days when u have to use wvdial (which i still use sha) @smart$boy follow esquire guide, very very easy that way, even glo and mnt are supported.


About using your phone as a modem via bluetooth that is very possible but you would have to install blueman, here is a guide u can follow http://traversingmind..com/2009/02/bluetooth-dun-with-linux.html

bluetooth is mostly plug and play on ubuntu , never had a problem with it ,

What is scary and annoying about this is that i never enabled notification by email in my profile, i have been in this forum since 2006 never had a problem like this, someone or probably the admin decided to enable it for me or probably everyone, which if that is the case is like an invasion of my privacy , really not finding this funny at all. if its a bug in simplemachine then i would understand, it would be nice if we get official confirmation from nairaland admin this issue .

Smart$boy:
Thanks. I have nokia 5300, using ZAIN. I i'm enabled with this APN. internet.ng.zain.com, i want a dial up connection to ZAIN edge/gprs using bluetooth. I do it on winxp but cant do it on ubuntu.

I have not used the phone for connection before but I have seen people use that phone on linux and it works fine

first u need to use the commandline which is not that scary just copy and paste what i post in terminal which u will find at Application/Accessories/Terminal

then plugin your phone using the phone to pc cable and run the following command

sudo wvdialconf

what this command does is to configure your phone for dialup. the configuration files would be stored at

/etc/wvdial.conf

now u need to go to the configuration file and edit it to your preference

gksu gedit /etc/wvdial.conf

which would open a notepad like application which an already configured settings that looks like this

[Dialer Defaults]

Init1 = ATZ

Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0

Modem Type = USB Modem

Baud = 460800

New PPPD = yes

Modem = /dev/ttyACM0

ISDN = 0

Phone = *99***1#

Password = internet

Username = internet

you will now have to set the username and password field according to to your network preference one that is done, save the file and close it

now go to terminal again and run

sudo wvdial

if it works you should be online when u start firefox, which might start in offline mode just go to file/ and uncheck workoffline and try again , if u have problems post it here , for further readings http://ubuntunigeria./category/connectivity/

brianromel:
Thanks black weaver,i'll try that out.
Well bigrvoar,yes i know its for ethical hackers,but at least let someone that wants to learn,learn how to install it then move on to using it.
I'm already using some tools in it on my windows,but i just like to learn -LEARN - how to use it with auditor.
So please apart from the bitter truth,you got any way to help me out with installing it,or downloading another linux os that i can easily get all those tools.Then lets hear it.

why i said this is because for you to learn u have to start small, first know how to do the little thing before you jump to big stuff, its like learning to walk before you run, I dont know how good your understanding of linux is, but if you have very little, it would be best for you to try to first improve you understanding of how linux work by using a newbie friendly distro like ubuntu, than graduating onto greater things. but if u have an understanding of linux and how the linux community works, how about searching for the community and online documentation on auditor or try joining their mailing list or irc, u would get better help from there just my $0.2

when u want help you have to supply more info so we tailor our help to fix your needs like

what type of dailup are we talking about , mobile phone?
what type of hardware are u using , nokia?
what carrier? mtn?
then what have your tried and what was the result.? most people here are quite good but are not magicians that would know the exact problems u have. u have got to give details

brianromel:
I'm in a bit of a fix,i'm trying to install a linux os on a system that already got xp installed.
The os is bootable only via cdrom,of which i'm getting tired of inserting the cd any time i need to run it.
I can't copy the bloody thing and run it on windows when i like,so i just have to asks,if any one knows how to install this linux OS.
Oh and the os is called auditor.

auditor is an ethical* hacker tool, its not something for the newbie, if you cant figure out how to install it , then its not meant for you. bitter truth

baani:
i do appreciate all the post u all been sending and it has raised my interest in this O.S and im opin and askin if there is anyone here who could fill mi in on how i can become a linux user, i really don't know a thing about it. its not like windows where one can just install and its ready for use but i know it can be used permanently or temporary, but how can i be good with its commands. i would mind if anyone can help mi with some tips, ebooks tht will actually talk abt the basics of this O.S and move its way up d core

be ready to learn and have fun at the same times, can be frsutration at times because its a new way of doing things, so my advise , get a linux distro and install it u can here is a head start www.ubuntunigeria. or u can join this mailing list http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntunigeria

Azanor:
@ bigrovar

so in other words i have to install the ultimate edition in order to reap the full benefits. its based on ubuntu 8.10, thats why i was thought that i could just copy some of the necessary software files from the dvd into my current installation of 8.10.

so to install do i have to reformat the partition with ubuntu 8.10 on it or is there a way i can just upgrade to the ultimate edition. also, where can i get those dvds i hear about which have all the necessary codecs, plugins and softwares.

there is no way to copy or download the application from ubuntu ultimate cd to a fresh ubuntu 8.10. the applications in the ubuntu ultimate dvd are built with the dvd, u the applications have already then installed as part of the dvd, also u cant upgrade to ubuntu ultimate , one ubuntu ultimate is not an offcial version of ubuntu, its more like a fan remix so its not officially supported by ubuntu , about the dvds which this place for info on that www.ubuntunigeria.

u welcome mate

Djcn:
Could that be really so, linux netbooks have drastically fell in market sales, cos more persons have been less satisfied with these stuffs, while windows experience a 10% INCREASE.

Windows-based netbooks grew to 96% of the market as of February, up from under 10% during the first half of 2008. Microsoft's gains were cut from the market share of Linux-based netbooks, a fact Microsoft attributes to consumers wanting a netbook that runs like their home PCs.

http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/poaUBhdqhWgKhaCiceiTBVXnJu?format=standard

have u used or seen windows run on a netbook? and i have seen linux run on a netbook? i have seen and used both on at least the eeepc, ascer aspire1 and the compaq mini so am speaking from experience not from the point of view of an MS employee's blog. true many people would naturely go for what they are used to which in this case is XP. that doesnt make XP run better on netbooks, popularity and performance are quite 2 different things. if u want to talk about windows on netbooks bring up its merits over linux netbooks rather than rely on statistics which has no bases.

u can resize images with either gthumb, or gimp, or install nautilus-image-converter which would allow u to right-click on an image and resize it,

flyuche:
thanks bigrovar. i successfully installed internet explorer today.

great u must be a webdeveloper , because i cant think of any reason why a normal hunman bring would want to use internet explorer anyway except to test how their website would look like on it, , anyway am glad that it works for you. cheers

azman:
Thanks alot chief, I finally got one sent through a relation in USA. Its a white ASUS901 1Gig Ram,20Gig HDD, No attached DVD ROM . My major concern now is thatthe system came preloaded with Linux but im only familiar with Windows.

My fear is that if it formatted and loaded with a windows XP with service Pack 2. Will I be able to get all the drivers for the system loaded?.
In addition, without having to reformat the system, can windows XP and Linux co-exist on the same partition? The system is about 20Gig of Hard Disk

I need an advice urgently from the gurus because I cant send it back to USA.

Thanks
Azman

I would just advise u to leave the linux as it is, dont let the word linux scare you the one that comes preloaded on your machine has been made to be very easy to you so you wont have any problem, xp doesnt run well on netbooks, by the time you have your anti-virus it would just become very very slow to make any sense, also to be able to install XP u would have to get an external cd-rom, plus start looking for drivers that would work, after which u would end up with a system that is very slow to bootup, applications would be slow to start etc, when i got my compaq mini 700 netbook it came preloaded with xp, the performance was soo bad that i had to install linux, which has been slimmed down to run on netbooks i never when back. again linux is not that hard to use, incase you have any problem or question about it please let me know i would be glad to help . cheers.

rpm fans will kill you for that statement tho i admit that i prefer deb based distros to rpms

well fact speaks for them selfs, compare the number of debian based distros to rpm distros? rpm,yum,yest,zyper, all suck compared to apt-get, although lots of work as being put into yum to make it not suck soo much like the presto plugin, its still no were comparable to apt-get, the only package manager gives apt-get a run for its money is pacman for archlinux ,

first time you try to play an mp3 file ubuntu will offer to download some files (codecs) that you need to be able to play mp3s as long as you have a working internet connection you shouldn't have a problem

abi? no mind them , u have to read before u leap. am trying to work on codec package which allow people to install multimedia codecs offline on ubuntu.

i guess the problem should be a network setup one; as far as i know linux has support for most network cards and most pc vendors don't change network chipsets the way they change sound and video

exactly , never seen a network card that doesn't just work on linux. most i have tried just work without a problem. the problem lies with wireless which is not really linux fault. when the vendor wont write correct drivers. the community has to result to reverse engineering, and the user suffers, so vote with ur pocket and get only computers with open hardware like intel or vendors with good support for linux like nvidia

flyuche:
hi. guys. i tried out the KDE in ubuntu. i must confess i don't like it. problem is when installing KDE i opted for KDM, now i want my GDM back, how do i do it?

first remove kdm and gdm then reinstall gdm just copy and paste the following and u should be fine , if u dont break u dont learn

sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm ; sudo apt-get remove gdm ; sudo apt-get install gdm 

blackweaver:
ubuntu ultimate, can't say i've heard of it

in addition type either

dmesg | grep Network 

and paste output

@bigrovar shouldn't we just ask him to print out the output of dmesg? there may be some information that we might miss otherwise

sure

@nonoy

post the out of

dmesg

centaur-prime:
Hello everyone, I ordered an ibex from canonical and I recieved it in December but after installing on my laptop ( Mandriva partition), I discovered some problems which were really frustrating. First, it did not recognize the network when I took it to a cafe to update so I could not browse the net with it. Secondly, some plugins required to play audio files like MP3s and WMAs were missing. Even DVDs and video CDs didn't work. I'm trying to master Linux and I have rute but again, most of the commands didn't work on console. The man files were missing and the friggin OS was complaining that my HP nx9000, P4 2GHz, was an x84 therefore the 3D effects wont work. Inasmuch as I work with windows because of the work I do, I still need to master Linux. What can I DO? I need help! Somebody,  Anybody,

This is what happens when u dont look before you leap. U want to master linux! you want to master linux! yet you are not able to do simple research and find out what makes linux unique. Linux is not windows, its not just about putting a cd in your computer and going to sleep. its a culture and a community, and when u ignore that fact the result is what u get.

First of about the DVD and MP3, FYI Ubuntu ships with only free and open source software (google if you dont know what that is) as a result it dont not ship with non free multimedia codec and format like mp3 and dvd codecs that is why this things dont work out of the box, however, it does allow you to download the codecs and install them by your self if you wish, you might want to read a guide i wrote on how to enable multimedia on ubuntu [url=http://bigbrovar./2008/12/17/multimedia-codecs-and-tools-for-ubuntu/
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About the Network not being detected, My guess would be that what ever Network card/wireless card you are using is proprietary if that is the case u might have to download the driver from it using the Hardware Driver in System-Administrator-Hardware Driver if that doesnt work u would have to put the output of

lspci | grep Network 

here so we can see what type of driver you are running and direct you accordingly.

About the command not working ,  seriously i really dont understand that part, what command did you run? even though ubuntu is based on debian, and probably has some unique way of doing things, its still Linux and still comes with the co-utils and bash, hence most Linux command work on ubuntu just fine. am not sure if u are complaining or seeking for help. but which ever way u should have tested all this problem in the live CD stage, and probably read if ubuntu is compatible with your hardware before taking the jump. dont forget that your laptop was built for windows, and the fact that many things even worked showed just how good linux is, if u want 100 compatibility then get a laptop with linux pre-installed.

decided to resurrect this thread from the dead So this month i decide to give my laptop an apple flavor, there are some element of their interface, like the One Click side mouse, and the lack of right click, i decided to add some element i love about macs with the best of gnome here is what i came up with


https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3431268829_483a92a127_d.jpg


https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3662/3431268825_5196be2503_d.jpg


https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3327/3431268821_4518a4e8ed_d.jpg

flyuche:
@bigbrovar. how about the debian distro. what's your impression.

Well one word Debian is the mother of 70% of Linux Distros my opinion of it is summed up by the following from distrowatch

The success of Debian GNU/Linux can be illustrated by the following numbers. It is developed by over 1,000 volunteer developers, its software repositories contain more than 20,000 packages (compiled for 11 processor architectures), and it is responsible for inspiring over 120 Debian-based distributions and live CDs. These figures are unmatched by any other Linux-based operating system. The actual development of Debian takes place in three main branches (or four if one includes the bleeding-edge "experimental" branch) of increasing levels of stability: "unstable" (also known as "sid", "testing" and "stable". This progressive integration and stabilisation of packages and features, together with the project's well-established quality control mechanisms, has earned Debian its reputation of being one of the best-tested and most bug-free distributions available today.

Debian is solid as a rock, it is the mother of the ubuntu, Mint,Mepis,Xandros of this world. its very solid stable and doesnt compromise of FOSS standard. although i would say that its might not be ideal for the new user, and its stable release are always quite dated due to the focus on stablity then shipping the latest and greatest software.

Azanor:
Gurus in d house i need a little help,i installed 8.10 on my lappie but because of slow internet i havent been able 2 get any updates. My question is can i install softwares and stuff on my current ubuntu os 4rm d ubuntu ultimate 2.1 dvd that i got without having 2 install d full ultimate os, and how do i do this

well i am not sure i quite get you, are u trying , are u trying to install the softwares u installed on ur ubuntu ultimate machine on the ubuntu 8.10 machine?
or are u wondering if its possible to install softwares that came with ubuntu ultimate on ubuntu 8.10?

in case of the first scenario. the answer is a yes and no, yes if the ubuntu ultimate u intend to install is based on ubuntu 8.10 , so how can u do this, u can either use a tool called aptoncd (google it) or manually copy the software in the ubuntu ultimate from /var/apt/cache/archive/ to the same directory on ur ubuntu 8.10. but your best bet would be to use aptoncd

in the second case, its a no no,

nonoy:
I connectd initially wit a network cable but it stopd working after installing stuffs on synaptic manager

I really dont know what to say. first of all , , i would presume that your are a newbie at this things , and u obviously read about ubuntu before you decided to install it on ur PC , you did you research right? i would like to presume this because it is what a reasonable person would do. secondly for people to be able to help you u have to provide more information

what version of ubuntu did you install? (oh i just saw u post about ubuntu ultimate to correct an impression, ubuntu ultimate is not an official version of ubuntu, it is a seperate project which uses an ubuntu based but added some extras like codecs,and some other stuffs which doesnt ship with the standard ubuntu desktop)
what packages did you install that made the internet stop working?
also we need to know the type of hardware your system is using so that we can tailor a guide to fit that hardware so open Terminal (Application/Accessories/Terminal/) and copy and paste the following code inside

lspci | grep Network

press enter and post the output it gives u here

i can see from your location that you are based in Abuja , am also based in Abuja and would be glad to help you .

i doubt that first of what graphic driver are u running? ubuntu ships with only free and opensource software hence only free and open source hardware will work on it out of the box like Intel hardwares (wireless card and graphic card) other closed source hardware would work but u have to use a tool called Hardware Driver which u can find in Systems/Administration/Hardware Drivers lunch the tool and if your system needs a particular closed source driver to work then it would office to download it for you.

oyb:
yep

some dudes have been selling on NL for around that price - or myb it was 6,500

as always, it is cheaper to buy on ebay if u have someone over there. . .

thanks mate

oyb:
let me get this straight -

rather than buy 1gb of ram at n2500 or thereabouts, you chose to go through the long wahala of reinstalling xp , and cruising the net for drivers?

are RAMs that cheap now? i mean DDR2 , that means a 2gb RAM should be like 5k can you confirm this for me please

I dont really like the slackware model, for a minimalist distro i choose arch u might want to read my review on it http://bigbrovar./2009/03/16/archlinux-the-best-way-to-kiss/
about puppy, i have it installed on my usb stick which a carry with me everyware and ready to use when the need demands. if i work into a cafe , i just pop in my puppy and i dont have to use their crappy windows which probably has a keylogger