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Image123:
@bindex
you don't want to say you've never heard about 'debates' and documentaries that give conclusions that what the bible is saying is wrong.That is what is called 'trying to disprove the bible'.scientists have evidence that there was once a global flood.They may not all believe in anything called Noah but they know that sometime ago,millions or thousands of years ago,water covered the world.

All I want from you is to tell me the names of the scientist that believe that there was once a global flood after men inhibited the world. Give me two names and stop going around in circles. and show me your evidence that scientist have that there was once a global flood.

You're listing miracles for science to verify,its a pity you don't believe in miracles.How could science explain money in a fish's mouth,water turned to wine,blind man healed?its not done,its impossible.The natural CANNOT fully comprehend the supernatural.you continue to mention islam. Do you have a problem with them?Take your issues to them and stop complaining to me.I see Judges1v19 is very believable to you,but the records of victories all over the book of course never happened abi? How hypocritical.

What has money in a fish mouth got to do with anything, the fish might have eaten the money from somewhere(a man that got drowned or something) that can be very well explained. Apart from ancient stories like the bible, koran, hindu text etc we don't hear about people turning water into wine in todays world or God leading people in wars and helping them in defeating or exterminating their enemies. Do we? Can you show me one blind man that has been healed? one independent and carefully studied and varifaible case, not the ridiculous sham we see on Nigerian TV by pastor Chris, TB Joshua and the rest of them. By the way why do we only hear about miracles like raising the dead and healing the blind only in Africa(Nigeria most especially)? Why dont we hear about such "miracles" in the US or Europe where their media is very powerful and love investigating abnormal things like that? Any pastor that claims to have healed the blind or cured any body of Aids through prayers alone will be exposed for real in those places thats why such miracles of healing the blind or raising the dead never exist in Europe. There was a Nigerian pastor that once 'healed' a girl that was born deaf in Norway, it turned out to be the biggest mistake he had ever made in his entire pastoral career, the norwagien media went after him and exposed him. By the way why can't God heal amputees? Why does God not perform miracles in of raising the dead or healing the blind in places that have a very strong and accountable media? I thought you guys believe that there is nothing that he can not do? Am yet to see any God heal any amputee, if your God can heal the blind and raise the dead etc why cant he heal an amputee? why is it that your God only performs hidden miracles? If miracles were real there would be at least one amputee who would have been healed dont you think so?

Image123:
@bindex
you'll take science as a joke?you don't know about scientists who hold opposing views about global flood? hmm,study harder.Maybe you're not clear about my scope of who I refer to as scientists.I don't only refer to people who support my views as scientists.I refer to All the science people,whether Newton or Darwin,whether believer or unbeliever.They may be pastors,they may be atheists.I regard them all who are into science and its research methods as scientists.some people,educated,Drs(Ph'D) have belief in global flood.some of them believe in what you call Noah's flood,some believe in something else that they also call global flood.Their beliefs/unbelief are not what move me.their evidence or lack of evidence is not my foundation.the primary reason why I responded to your talk about flood was your discussion with someone else that science had disproven the possibility of a global flood.I then told you that some scientists consider such possibility. Their consideration or possible evidence is not my reason for believing,neither would I build my faith on it no matter how compelling the evidence.because I live by faith,not by sight.That's one statement you're not permitted to understand except you believe.

Why then were you discarding scientific explanation off handedly as fairy tales? owo11 has told you to stick to your beliefs and not disregard other beliefs and call them fairy tales just because they disagree with yours. moslems live by faith alone just like buddist, shirks, taoist, jews etc. Mohammed divided the moon into two halves for the world to see, you can't disprove it can you?  about 1.5 billion people living in the world belief he did, so go ahead and show me how he did'nt.

Why are you guys still disputing the names of your Gods? Allah is no jehova and vice-versa end of story

Recognise:
A Christian bus driver has refused to drive a bus with an atheist slogan proclaiming "There's probably no God".

Ron Heather, from Southampton, Hampshire, responded with "shock" and "horror" at the message and walked out of his shift on Saturday in protest.

First Bus said it would do everything in its power to ensure Mr Heather does not have to drive the buses.

Buses across Britain started displaying atheist messages in an advertising campaign launched earlier this month.

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This is not an atheist slogan but an agnostic slogan. I am an atheist and if i am to write i will write that THERE IS NO GOD.

Abu-Maryam:
Allah sarki, kowa ya bar gida to gida ya barshi. Suna na Abdulrahman ina da zama a Jeddah Kingdom of Saudi Arabiya. Bafullatani hafaffen Jihar Gombe. Gaskiya wannan ba karamin jin dadi nayi da naga wannan zauren. Ku duba har wadanda ba Hausawa ba suna tofa albarkacin bakin su. Shi yasa a wani zaure nake kira da harshen Hausa ya zamo yaren hukuma a Nigeria.
@ Alausa
ina ganin idan ka saka www.hausasingles.com ya isa ba tare da wani kakale ba.

Yan uwana ina da tambaya, menene ra'ayin ku akan neman aure ta hanyar yana Gizo idan aka dangata shi da ala'adu da kuma wayewa irin na yammacin duniya??

Kasan mutanen mu ba su waye sosai ba, kuma baza so rungume wannan al'adan na yammacin duniya da wurin ba sosai, an fiso ayi aure yadda al'adan mu ta hausawa ta yadda da shi koku ta sara ko kuma yadda musulunci ta sara. amma a nawa ra'ayin wannan bangare ne da ya kama ta a bunka sa, a kuma guwada. sobo da a gani na ya na da kiyau.

isbelhma:
don allhah wanene sisi jinx? me keke nema a wannan zauren?
wannan zauren hausawa ne ko masu jin hausa.

idan kina son egbatigbati (yarbawa masu kashi a kwano forum )
to sai ki tambaya a baki web site nasu.

bamu bukatan ki anan.

diva, yaya naji shuru ne? ni bako ne anan
ama dan arewane.

mucigaba da hiran mu a nairaland.

nagode.engineer a lagos.[color=#006600][/color]

Kai maigida ba ka da kiyau wai me neh neh wan nan biyehribiyan ta ke ne ma a nan ne? wan nan zauren ta mu che mu hausawa duk ma su kashi a kwano sai su kauche da ga wan na zauren so ba mu wuri, mu chi gaba da zancen mu.

Bleep all the blood sucking Arabs that continue to tell people to kill themselves in the name of religion and Allah.

davidylan:
Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi - Its not about land at all . . . who would have known?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BH5SCUg3r8&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]

Who the Hell is the foolish Islamic Mallam? Islam is truly the religion of Piss, Piss on Allah and all his slaves.

So?

davidylan:
According to his slaves here . . . he is watching.

He will for ever keep watching, they should go and pour water on his body. I believe he is in a very deep slumber. Allah pls wake up because your enemies are killing your slaves.

A_K_O:
Okay.

But still, why fidget about someone you believe doesnt exist?

If he Invokes the name of Allah, majority of American Christains will be fidgety about it even though all of them believe that Allah does'nt exist. The question then will be why should American Christains get fidgety about Allah If Obama uses him if Allah doesnt exist?

Chrisbenogor:
So a grown learned person still believes Noah's ark existed?
Wonderful

95 percent of Nigerians Christains do while About 70 percent of European Christains do not believe in it for obvious reasons .

Where is Allah? Is he sleeping or what? Moslems should pls wake him up ASAP. His enemies are destroying his slaves.

Why are these moslems and hamas terrorist supporters crying here? Do you guys forget that hamas's intension is to wipe Israel off the map?

nuzo:
Why europe?
He could have checked into one of the death houses in the all is well nigeria to receive the treatment.

B.T.W, he could have died long time ago in LUTH if he were to be an ordinary nigerian.

You can say that again, Why Europe? Why not LUTH.

Jarus:
Wa alaikum,
I have always known you still have some 'sympathy' for Islam, as I can see from your posts I went through that you focused more on tackling these Christian beliefs as you engage davidylan, Olaadegbu and others in Religion section. You mentioned somewhere that the Koranic account of creation is saner than the biblical account. The issue with you, I think, is not believing in the existence of God.

Why not simply open your heart and do more research.

Regards

I have no sympathy for Islam, Its all a joke as far as am concerned. I am more focused on Christianity because that is the religion that I understand better not because Islam is a better reigion than it(Infact Islam is more of a joke than christainity as far as I know).

earTHMama:

Who wrote the bible and the koran? Men did

@ m_nwankwo

All Image123 has is belief without evidence and nothing more, he will discard all what you have written here with an off hand comment, don't be suprised if he says they are all a fairy tale.

Image123:
@bindex
hi,sorry I've not been available to reply you.I've being busy all day and may so be till next week.About your request for evidence to show that geology attests to global flood,simply pick up a earth science textbook or even check on the internet.Notice however that I said 'they attest to global flood'.even more than one.Every serious geologist believes that the whole world has been covered by water before.The only thing is that they have different opinions concerning it.Trust scientists now,they behave confused about every little thing and may end up confusing the casual observer.Some believe the earth was covered up with water,flowing water.some believe it was ice.

I will take this as  joke. Must you keep on repeating things that make no sense even to you?

It depends on the link you're reading from,each of them give their reasons for their belief.In the textbooks,their differing THEORIES are both listed/defined.Some believe flood happened once while some believe it happens at intervals.They're not agreed on the intervals either.[b]Some believe the Noah's flood was the most recent,some others think the last flood was much earlier.[/b]The basic thing is that they all believe that the world was earlier covered up by water(liquid or ice).

Can you name one or two scientist that believe Noah's flood happened once or at intervals and is the most recent? Why are you just dropping meaningless and unsubstantiated points? What are you saying?

Also,I'm not saying scientific explanations are all fairy tale.please,don't get me wrong.I've said it before and I say it again.I appreciate the advance of science,both christian and non-christian scientists.What I'm against is the use of unreal evidence,probability,myths and extrapolations by scientists to make assertions and try to disprove the bible.

Who old you that scientist are trying to disprove the bible? because that the bible says that rainbows first appeared and remains a covenant between the bibleGod and the jews and scientist have shown that not to be the case, does not mean that they were out to disprove the bible? The bible made a false assertion and gave a false explanation for the appearance of the rainbow which scientist studied and their finding disapproved the explanation of the bible. The bible said that there was a global flood, scientist investigated and found no evidence of a global flood, their investigation was not to dissaprove what was written in the bible but to see if there is any evidence to support the biblical assertion.The bible explained the Jacob genetic engineering model in a very outlandish way and scientist have shown that the person that wrote that story does not undertand what ever he was writing about because there is no way such a thing would have been possible to have happened in real life, it can only happen in myths or legends. Let me clear something up. Science doesn't research God, in the positive or negative way and scientist are not trying to disprove God in any way. They deal wth what  they can gather. If the evidence points in a certain direction, they tell the people and show us that the evidence at hand points in that particular direction. That's how it is presented, which shows the previous interpretation was wrong, the scientists try to reason according to the evidence, and tell us about the way their finding attest to things and the way the evidence is pointing. There's is nothing more to it.

I showed you a 'scenario' of how some of these assertions are made.If I'm wrong please show it.[b]I've continually found God's word to be true and without fault even after trial.[/b]For you to fully understand it,you need your spirit in tune with God,if not the most simple of sentences in the Word of God will continue to look foolish to you.Have faith in God.

You have continually found God's word to be true, how? Gods word or men's words? have you ever meet a talking donkey? or have you ever seen a person that turned water into wine? Mohammed divided the moon into two and the whole word saw it, tell me that it never happened.You believe it took the Israelites 40 years to travel from Egypt to Canaan, yet such a journey, even at that time, would have taken no more than a month but you still believe that it is true. You believe that the bibleGod is so powerful and can do anything , he can even perfrom miracles but Judges 1:19 says that God was with the men of Judah in a battle, yet they couldn’t drive out the enemies because the other side was riding upon chariots of iron. Yet you still believe that he is God who can do all things when the bible clearly shows that he can not even defeat men because they rode on chariots of iron. If God is with someone, shouldn’t this person be able to do the miracles that every other God-accompanied individual performs?  Herod kills all boys in and around Bethlehem that are two years old and under. Such a massacre would certainly have been noted by contemporary historians. Yet not even Josephus, who documented all of Herod's life in detail, mentioned this event.When Jesus was crucified, there was three hours of complete darkness "over the whole land." It is strange that there is no record of this extraordinary event outside of the gospels. Infact the list is endless so Image 123 you have continually found God's word to be true and without fault even after trial? what is the truth? The bibleGod's inability to defeat the enemies of his people because the other side was riding upon chariots of iron or what? You believe that the koran is false but the bible is right on all its assertion? Prove to me that Prophet Mohmmed did not divide the moon into two for the whole world to see. The Koran said that he did Its now up to you to show me that he did not.

@ OLAADEGBU

Since the number "7" is the number of perfection people should then turn it into a deity and begin to worship it? why are you shamelessly spreading lies and convoluted ideas?

Me ke faruwa ne jama'a? Ina mikar da gaisuwa ta ga dukan mutanen da ke wan nan wurin.

Blood_Shed:
Were you in Kubwa camp? I swear I probably know you lol.

How do you send PM's? I seem to be finding trouble with that?

No, I am presently serving in kaduna state but my familiy lives in Abuja. I dont know how to send PMs here.

At the end of the day the white man has moved on from this nonsense, thats why they are miles ahead of us.

I was shocked to death when I went to europe and saw that the white people do not believe in christainity(even though the religion partly originated from there) or any religion for that matter. Even those of them that believe are mostly deist. Nigerians waste their time depending on imaginary Gods and miracles to help deliver them from their miseries and man made sufferings. White people are thinking about how to develop futher all the time for example by thinking and developing ways on how to end their dependency on fossil fuel in 50 years, while Nigerians are busy thinking of how Jesus or Allah will come and bring an end to the entire world as we know it and take them to their imaginary heavens in 20 years time. Its really pathetic.

davidylan:
See it this way . . . no one believes Sango worshippers are doing anything more than wasting their time and resources. how many athiests do you see painting their buses with "sango may not exist afterall"?

Who told you? The fact that you dont believe in sango doesnt make people that believe in it less sensible than Christains or Moslem. When the painters painted God who told you there were not also referring to Allah, Buddah, Skivana etc.

Why are they so bothered about christianity? Why does the bible trouble their spirit so?

We are not only bothered about Christainity we are also bothered about all religions(especially those of us that were once moslems).Christainity just happens to be the religion that most white athiest and all the athiest on nairaland were used to. The bible troubles our spirits not. By the way why are you and your fellow christains bothered about the koran and why does it bother your spirits so that you christains spend a lot of time trying to show muslims that their own "Holy" book is wrong? I dont see christains attacking buddist, hindus, taoist, shirks etc only muslims. Why is that? is it because Islam troubles your "souls"?

duduspace:
It is your prerogative what your opinion is about the answer, yu can't claim to be inside my head to know what I'm thinking. Besides, I wasn't referring to where I live now I was referring to where I come from but even Ireland where I live now is still officially a catholic state.

You always see only what you want to see David.

How do you expect him to see what you wrote with his demons of selective comprehension? You clearly wrote"from where I come from" but he saw it as where you live to make his nonsensical assumptions look sensible.

ow11:
@bindex

You should not railroad Image123 to believe that Adam and Eve story is false. It is written in the bible and he should believe everything the bible says as a Christian. If the bible says God created Adam and Eve, that by itself is left for interpretation. He may be right to believe in the bible because it has not been proven they never existed anyway. Where I have a problem is him trying to use an interpretation of that story to condemn and ridicule efforts scientists have made in the various fields been talked about on this thread.
He is entitled to his opinion on the origin of man and you should respect this as we all know a find tomorrow might make you modify whatever conclusions you might have drawn regarding the origins of man.

The reason he keeps on saying that scientific explanations are all a fairy tale is what is really beyond me.

davidylan:
this is totally untrue. the only reason islam came into the fore was after the Sept 11 attacks when many (athiests included) wanted to find out what was behind this ideology of death. I lived with muslims all my life . . . it never occured to me to even look at the cover of a quran until 9-11.

to claim that "christians" spend billions anually to castigate islam is laughable. Most christians i've come across are too busy trying to spread the gospel to bother what other religion is flying over their heads.

You always lie with a striaght face don't you? I was once a Moslem and I know very well what I am talking about. Your fallacy that the only reason Islam came to the fore was after 911 is ridiculous. Moslems have been using Islam as a reason to kill people well before 911. Christains have been waging war against the moslems since during the time of the cursade. Go to the Islamic thread and you will see that Christains are more than bothered with Islam Flying over their heads. I will still reiterate that Christains spend billions castigating and berating Islam through books, seminars etc some pastors spend their entire sunday service time preaching about Islam in their churches. Why are christains bothred about Islam if Moslems worship a non God?

JeSoul:
Time will soon point out with unmistakable precision and accuracy which lot of us was truly deluded .

Time will soon Show that Allah is the Surpreme being. What then will happen to you when you find yourself in Allah's Hell.

davidylan:
I have no problem with your deductions, i just wonder why if christianity is full of "unverified beliefs", "confusion" and "varying expert analysis" you bother so so much with it.

I wonder why if Allah is not the creator of the world, and the koran is filled with "unverified beliefs", "confusion" and "varying expert analysis" you and other christains bother so so much with it. Christains spend Billions anually castigating and berating Islam through books, lectures etc I wonder why they are worried with Islam if it is true that Moslems worship a Non God(Allah).

Image123:
@bindex
I did not dismiss m_nwankwo,please stop misspelling the brova's name.I explained to him why Adam and Eve were not subject to genetic errors and homogeneity.
B T W, get your facts right[b].Geology attests to even more than one global flood[/b].and breaking news to you,the chinese are Noah's boys.

Can you provide evidence to show how geology attest to a Global flood? The Chinese are Noahs boys according to your pastor or who?  . Do you even understand what you are saying?

davidylan:
you're asking an arts and commerce student for scientific facts?
wait small, he has a few more websites to plagiarise.

At least am not like you that plagiarise from websites that do not agree with my positions including plagiarising wrong equations to prove things you have little or no knowledge about.  Are you still here talking about science after you have been completly dicredited on the other thread with your demons of selective reading and comprehension? What a goon.

duduspace:
I agree with you totally on this david, christianity is a way of life which stems from unverified beliefs hence the reason why each one is creating his own God.

I agree with you that these people are confused but I must also say that christianity as a whole is some kind of mad house and you are possibly even more confused than they are, that quotation from the bible could mean so many things things even when taking in its literal English translation how much more when hebrew experts start analyzing all the possible meanings it could have in its original hebrew form.

Some Bible quote shows how ridiculous this position can really be. In the creation story it talks about the heavens declaring the glory of God and mentions the firmament. The Hebrew word that is translated as firmament is a derivative of a root that means "to beat into shape". The authors of Psalms and Genesis thought that the sky is a solid dome 

Image123:
@bindex
where are the scientific FACTS.show us and stop telling stories.Leave story for religious people.Produce your well beloved facts and stop making assertions out of probability and extrapolation

m_nwanko talked to you about genetics but you dismissed it as fairy tales, The global flood didn't happen there would have been geological evidence for it, not to mention the fact that the water has to come from somewhere, that is a scientific fact. Can you tell me how the Chinese people migrated to China from Adam?

Religion of Piss

Two men stoned to death in Iran for adultery:

Updated at: 1230 PST, Sunday, January 11, 2009   
  TEHRAN: Two men have been stoned to death for adultery at a cemetery in the northeastern city of Mashhad while a third escaped with his life, the Iranian newspaper Etemad Melli reported on Sunday.

The reformist daily, quoting a statement from a group of lawyers and women's rights activists, said the stoning was carried out at Behesht Reza cemetery in the first week of the Iranian month of Day, which runs from December 21 to 26. "One of them named Mahmoud, an Afghan national, was able to save himself from the stoning hole with serious injuries, but two others died," it said, identifying one of the men killed as Houshang Kh. The Iranian judiciary had no immediate comment on the report. Iran's judiciary chief Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahrudi issued a directive in 2002 imposing a moratorium on such executions.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=64718

If they can kill each other because of adultry then burning the images of Obama is nothing new.