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davidylan:
Christians dont spend as much time . . . the only reason we bother about islam AT ALL is because it is essentially built as a repudiation of everything christianity. Islam is in essence simply christianity upside down with a few minor changes to make it look original.

Your analogy falls flat.

Christains dont spend as much time according to davidylan?  , a look at the islamic thread will show you other wise, I repeat Christains spend too much time talking about Allah a deity they believe does not exist. Christainity is also in essence Judaism with a lot of changes to make it look original.

Deus_Noir:
Atheist here!!


I've been one for as long as I can remember, I had a pretty sheltered childhood in terms of socializing etc. So I always had a lot of "me time" to think about the universe etc, but the most powerful "religion repellents" to me was all the ridiculous contradictions in the bible. Personally the more I learnt about "God" the more I started to think, "wow this guy is quite an a**hole".

Anyway growing up in Naija, I never really shared my "sinful and blasphemous " thoughts with anyone except my closest friends, who would still verbally crucify me for having those beliefs(or lack of). But it was all in good fun, I guess they just assumed I was some attention seeking twit who would eventually "see the light" and "find God" pshh.

Kept my views from my family, not to protect myself from their wrath but to protect them from the worry that their son is a "blasphemer" and will "burn in hell forever".
I know no rational argument will ever convince them that there is no god so I just pretend to believe in god so they feel secure in their son's ability to make it to "heaven"

When I got to secondary school I became alot more "blasphemous" and would get into some serious arguments with my friends, I earned the nicknames "demon" and "satan" which I carried with pride.

Fast forward to college, moved to the states, met more atheists, felt less like an outcast. These days I'm not really combative about my beliefs, "live and let live" right?

I think the world will eventually realize that superstitious beliefs are for the most part bad for us, and as "ideas" just like "biological traits" are subject to natural selection, the ones that don't enhance our survival will eventually be phased out*

*The only quirk there is what if the environment changes in such a way that having superstitious beliefs actually are helpful to survival (which is the case in a lot of third world countries, and which is why I don't particularly judge those that carry such beliefs)
But every now and then I like to have a little bit of fun with the crazies and start an internet flame war.

Interesting.

They can also include Allah.

She should be left alone if she really does not want to br treated by drugs. After a year no body will have to tell her to take the drugs.

olabowale:
Bindex, am still waiting for your proof of which book or books the Qur'aan plagiarized. Ol boy, I will nound you until you confess your follies.

The bible and the mostly the Torah you deluded slave of Allah.

davidylan:
You know me by now . . . i could care less (after plenty of warnings) if 90% of the world's population stopped reading the bible . . . life is all about choice, salvation is also a personal choice. My only problem is why those who cry so loudly that they dont believe in God spend way too much time talking about Him.

I wonder why Christains spend a lot of time and money telling the world that Allah is the wrong deity even though they don't believe in his existence. I don't see they pay as much attention to buddah, sango, krisna and the rest of the other Gods.

OLAADEGBU:
Yahweh has given us the freewill as free moral agents to choose between the narrow way and the broad way as both have their respective destinations. If you freely choose the broadway of evolution theory, organised religion and other interests that the majority of the populace get into as opposed to having a personal relationship with Yahweh through Jesus Christ His Son, then know that your freedom of choice has its own responsibilities which you and you alone can be blamed for the consequences of your choice. Yahweh has shown His greatest Power by allowing His Son to by killed for yours and my sins and the wisest thing for you to do is to accept His free gift of eternal life by accepting Jesus Christ as your Personal Saviour and Lord, then you will be set on the narrow road that leads to life eternal. That is His will for your life but it is up to you to choose what He has chosen for you, He will not impose on you what you don't want for yourself.

I realize from your posts that any arguments against your belief in God will not change your mind in any way. So rather than try and point out the reasons you should not believe in God, I would like you ask you about your opinion of certain situations and how your religious beliefs apply to them.

For example:

A child is born in a small village in eastern Mongolia. The child's parents are farmers. The chance of this child recieving an education beyond primary school is very slim. The child's parent's beliefs are based on Taoism for the most part because that is how they were brought up but they are not too strict about it. They bring up their child the same way and with the same principles and beliefs. Most of the other villagers there believe in the same principles.

This person grows up to be a farmer and lives a modest life. This person never harms anyone or commits any crimes. In fact, there is nothing extraordinary about this person. This person lives pretty much the same life as the parents did,  and most of the villagers for that matter. In the end, the person dies of old age.

This person was never aware of Christianity as a religion. This person was not aware of a Christian God,The Bible or Jesus. A Mongolian version of the Bible was never made available to this person. That person was simply ignorant of the fact that Christianity even exists and is practiced by hundreds of millions of people.

Since this person was never baptized, nor went to church, nor did any of that which your God requires. . . . would this person be condemned to hell?

If so, would you agree that this is an extremely unfair situation for this person?

The word of your God has simply not reached that part of the world. Widespread belief of your God is not happening there. In fact,  it's not happening in most of the world.

If your God is the only God and the God everyone should believe in. . . [b]shouldn't every person in the world be given at least a chance to believe?[/b]Well aren't you such a lucky fellow to have been born into a family with the correct set of beliefs. I assume your parents and immediate family are also Christians. Am I wrong?

OLAADEGBU:
I did not see where the guy forced us to accept his explanation, all he did was explain logically using the written Word of God as he went along. All you need to do is to drag your mouse (cursor) over the chapter and verse suggested in the hyperlink and you will be able to read what was written in the Word. I will be expecting you to come up with what you understand if you really wanted to know the answers to your questions.

That web link explains nothing at all, Its a christain apologist that is trying to use the bible and some convoluted facts to prove non existent points.

Janssen:
We Would Need To Be God! Neither science nor I can prove that God exists. You cannot prove He does not exist. Neither of us can prove He does or does not exist because we do not see Him. In order to prove that, you or I would need to know every part of the universe and everything about the universe because God could be anywhere. We would also have to know everything about the other dimensions of time and existence. In short, we would need to be god to know everything and be everywhere at the same time because God might move. Then we would be god if we could know everything and be everywhere at the same time. Science is inadequate for the task.
It cannot tell us how the stuff that caused the "big-bang" came into existence or where it came from - how anything got started. That is a problem for science if it really is the god of truth. Science cannot tell me why 4,000 or 2,000 year old prophecies in the Bible came true. It cannot tell me how 700 - 500 year old prophecies came true predicting the exact week in which Jesus would die. Or, why 1,000 year old prophecies were accurate about Jesus' birth, life and His death.

You believe that the bibleGod exist yet you agree that you can not prove his existence? , You can not also tell us how the bibleGod came into existance can you? As to the 700 year old prophecy predicting the exact week Jesus will die is nothing but a farce, the other prophecies about Jesus birth, life and death are all disputable going by the original torah's account that the story was copied from into the bible, read the original hebrew torah once again and you will undertand what i am talking about. You will see that words like young woman and virgin were intentionally changed by the gospel wroters. Here is what mazaje wrote in one of his post regading this "prophecy".

Why Jews do not believe in Jesus

The requirements for the messiah are as follows (per the Jewish bible.) I use either the Stone edition or JPS. They are pretty identical and Jews accept either edition as accurate.
1. He must be from the seed of David through Solomon
2. He will be anointed King of Israel (the word messiah means anointed, nothing more and nothing less)
3. He will return the Jewish people to Israel
4. He will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem
5. He will bring peace to the world and end all war
6. He will bring knowledge of god to the world

All of the authentic Jewish messianic prophecies are empirically verifiable. The entire world will be able to see and verify the above.

Some things he will not be:
He will not be a deity
He will not need 2 visits to accomplish his mission
He will not die for our sins
He will not be pierced ( in reference to the mistranslation of Psalm 17 explained below)

About Jewish tribal law:
If your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish
If your father was a Kohen (Priest), you are a priest (birth only, no adoption allowed)
If your father was from the tribe of Judah, you are from the tribe of Judah (birth only, no adoption allowed)

Sources for the messianic criteria are from Isaiah 11:6, Talmud Yad, Melachim 11:4, Num 24:17, Deut 17:15 Lev 24:10 Ezra 10:2,3 Gen 49;10 Num 1:18-44 24:14 and Lev 24:10
No sources for the "nots" as these are absent from the Jewish OT.

For my reference to the messiah not needing to be pierced, I refer to Psalm 22:16 (17 in Jewish bible)

Dogs have compassed me; the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me; they pierced my hands and my feet. (King James version)
Dogs have encompassed me. A company of evildoers has enclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet. (JPS jewish bible)

Notice that when the original words of the Psalmist are read, any allusion to a crucifixion disappears. The insertion of the word "pierced" into the last clause of this verse is a not-too-ingenious Christian interpretation that was created by deliberately mistranslating the Hebrew word kaari as "pierced." The word kaari, however, does not mean "pierced," it means "like a lion." The end of Psalm 22:17, therefore, properly reads "like a lion they are at my hands and my feet." Had King David wished to write the word "pierced," he would never use the Hebrew word kaari. Instead, he would have written either daqar or ratza, which are common Hebrew words in the Jewish scriptures. Needless to say, the phrase "they pierced my hands and my feet" is a Christian contrivance that appears nowhere in the Jewish scriptures.

Bear in mind, this stunning mistranslation in the 22nd Psalm did not occur because Christian translators were unaware of the correct meaning of this Hebrew word. Clearly, this was not the case. The word kaari can be found in a number of other places in the Jewish scriptures. Yet predictably, the same Christian translators who rendered kaari as "pierced" in Psalm 22 correctly translated it "like a lion" in all other places in the Hebrew Bible where this word appears.

Now on to another mistranslated messianic passage from the OT.
Isaiah 7:14 does not support Matthew's claim that Isaiah is referring to Jesus' virgin birth, It should be said at the outset that the word "virgin" does not appear in the seventh chapter of Isaiah. The author of the first Gospel deliberately mistranslated the Hebrew word ha'almah as "a virgin." This Hebrew word ha'almah does not mean "a virgin." It means "the young woman," with no implication of virginity. Most modern Christian Bibles have corrected this erroneous translation, and their Bibles now correctly translate this Hebrew word as "the young woman." If Isaiah had wanted to spefically say virgin, he would have used betulah, a common word used in other areas of the OT that only means virgin.
Isaiah 7:14.

The seventh chapter of the Book of Isaiah begins by describing the military crisis that was confronting King Ahaz of the Kingdom of Judah. In about the year 732 B.C.E. the House of David was facing imminent destruction at the hands of two warring kingdoms: the northern Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Syria. These two armies had laid siege to Jerusalem. The Bible relates that the House of David and King Ahaz were gripped with fear. Chapter seven relates how God sent the prophet Isaiah to reassure King Ahaz that divine protection was at hand. The Almighty would protect him, their deliverance was assured, and these two hostile armies would fail in their attempt to subjugate Jerusalem. In Isaiah 7 we read,

, : "Let us go up against Judah and provoke it, and annex it to us; and let us crown a king in its midst, one who is good for us." So said the Lord God, "Neither shall it succeed, nor shall it come to pass . . . ." ' " The Lord continued to speak to Ahaz, saying, "Ask for yourself a sign from the Lord, your God; ask it either in the depths, or in the heights above." Ahaz said, "I will not ask, and I will not test the Lord." Then he said, "Listen now, O House of David, is it little for you to weary men, that you weary my God as well? Therefore the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign: Behold the young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel. Cream and honey he shall eat when he knows to reject bad and choose good; for, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned."

It is clear from this chapter that Isaiah's declaration was a prophecy of the unsuccessful siege of Jerusalem by the two armies of the Kingdoms of Israel and Syria, not a virgin birth more than 700 years later. If we interpret this chapter as referring to Jesus' birth, what possible comfort and assurance would Ahaz, who was surrounded by to overwhelming military enemies, have found in the birth of a child seven centuries later? Both he and his people would have been long dead and buried. Such a sign would make no sense.

We see, in II Kings 15-16, that this prophecy was fulfilled when these two kings were suddenly assassinated. With an understanding of the context of Isaiah 7:14 alone, it is evident that the child born in Isaiah 7:14 is not referring to Jesus or to any future virgin birth. Rather, it is referring to the divine protection that Ahaz and his people would enjoy from their impending destruction at the hands of these two enemies, the northern Kingdom of Israel and Syria.

Finally, if Isaiah's words are the substance of a dual prophecy as some Christains claim, at what age did the baby Jesus mature? Which were the two kingdoms during Jesus' lifetime that were abandoned? Who dreaded the Kingdom of Israel during the first century when there had not been a Kingdom of Israel in existence since the seventh century B.C.E.? When did Jesus eat cream and honey? Why wasn't Jesus named Immanuel? Does any of this make any sense? It doesn't because this argument of a dual prophecy was born out of the desperation of Christians and essentially makes a mockery out of the book of Isaiah.

Conclusion:Science is not fool proof! It is constantly changing as one theory after another is being revised and updated because we do not really know - we are learning. Evolution is no exception. Science is only as good as the human mind and that is faulty, biased and guilty of serious errors. May I suggest truth can be found in a supernatural book - a sacred book - the Bible. It has been proven to be accurate when it speaks to history and prophecy. It predicted Jesus' birth and death, including the week in which He would die. It predicted His return to life, and historical records witness to the life, death and miracles of Jesus. Jesus is God! God only asks us to believe in Jesus!

You can not use the bible to prove its assertions. Talking about prohecy remember that there are a lot of other prophecies that were not fullfilled in the bible? so what does that tell you?

Davidylan thinks he alone understands the bible and anybody that dares to teach against what he feels is right is a fraud and deserves no attention.

May kelly:
Fools with Lucifer MUST Inherit Hell. They will be boldly wellcome thus [b]" WELLCOME TO HELL FIRE"[/b] These fools are those who don't know how they were created nor can they count the hairs on their head; yet they boldy speak "devil is their father" complete fools indeed!!!!

God raised and has been raising from dead! but only his children. We believe in your miracles Jehovah. We Love YOU LORD.

In your haste to sound stupid and scripted it seems you did not even bother to read the thread,

OLAADEGBU:
That tells you the difference between Yahweh and Allah, Yahweh is merciful, even to those who don't deserve it. His mercy was displayed when He gave His only begotten Son to die for our sins so that we can be forgiven and be adopted as a joint heirs with His Son. Allah, on the other hand has no son and Mo. is his prophet. Allah sees mercy as a form of weakness and so he will deal mercilessly with any of his slaves that falls out of line as he only loves his muslim slaves that tow the line. Bindex is currently on Allah's hitlist, who as an apostate has to be dealt with for going AWOL That is why I am challenging Bindex to put his money where his mouth is and confront any of Allah's slaves and tell it to their faces there in Abuja that Allah does not exist, that he is the figment of man's imagination. Bindex himself knows that he dare not reveal his thoughts about Allah especially where he lives otherwise he will not live to tell the story.

You guys never fail to amaze me, why do you guys keep bandying the lie that you worship a merciful deity? What is the difference between Allah and the God of the Bible? You said that Allah see mercy as a form of weakness eh? What about the Christain God? remember he onced used to live inside a wooden ark as the story goes and any body that goes near the ark gets killed instantly. The bible God was adviced by people like David in the bible to reconsider some of his evil acts and yet you say he is merciful? By the way if we are to go by what you stated it was never the bibleGod's intension for all to go to his imaginary heaven.

Mathew 7:13 & 14

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Now, if biblegod is not willing that any should perish, why should any perish. If it is not his will, then how can it happen?

Yet, as we see from the words of Jesus in Matthew, "few there be that find it (life)". How can "few find it", if it is bibleGod's will that none perish? I don't believe in heaven and hell by the way I am just trying to point out how senseless it sounds going by the biblical narrative.

allboyz:
@OGAGA4LUV

I DECREE BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST THAT,THAT SATANIC SPIRIT DEPART FROM YOU NOW!!!! IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH!!

YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU SENSES REAL FAST!!!

MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT BE YOUR GUIDE, YOU ARE SAVED!!! THANK YOU HOLY SPIRIT.

HALLELUJAH!!!

@ Ogaga4Luv

What is it with your imaginary satan?

May kelly:
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22

Any one who look down on my GOD is a fool.

I do, you and your God are all fools.

May kelly:
Father multiplies their sorrow. Destroy you them from the earth. Let them fall by their own counsel.

Sorry baby your imaginary God has been emasculated long time ago by the people that decided to reinvent him, gone are the days he used to kill millions in a day, or turn into a lion and eat people alive. He can not even protect his so called children from harm and you are there telling him to multiply other peoples sorrows

@Kola oloye

Here is the rest of the verse

  Mat 24:15 "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' [fn] spoken of through the prophet Daniel-let the reader understand-


Mat 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.


Mat 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house.


Mat 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.


Mat 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!


Mat 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.


Mat 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now-and never to be equaled again.


Mat 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.


Mat 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it.


Mat 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect-if that were possible.


Mat 24:25 See, I have told you ahead of time.


Mat 24:26 "So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.


Mat 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.


Mat 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.


Mat 24:29 "Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.' [fn]


Mat 24:30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.


Mat 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.


Mat 24:32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.


Mat 24:33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it [fn]is near, right at the door.


Mat 24:34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

It seems that Jesus cleary does not know what he was saying. There are so many places where Jesus particularly told people that they will see him come from the clouds in his kingdom in other verses and those predictions are all a giant Fail. People always forget why the bible was written and what the authors had in mind, most of them taught that the legend that is Jesus was going to come during their life time or generation that was why they included all those lines and predictions.

OLAADEGBU:
@bindex,

If you are this passionate about the non existence of God or Allah, do you care to boldly wage your finger at a nearby mosque while their prayers are going on to tell them what you feel about their Allah? and come back to tell us the result, that is if you live to tell the story.

I can see that you are more passionate than me when it comes to showing the non existence of Allah judging from your numerous post on the Islamic thread, do you also care to go and tell them about how 40 Moslems converted to Christainity at a near by mosque as you have besen posting here on nairaland and come back and tell us the story? that's if you live to tell the story

davidylan:
A surgeon removes a cancer out of genuine compasion . . . your own attempt to remove the "cancer" of religion seems more like a self-seeking goal to placate a troubled soul.

Are you placating yyour troubled soul when you tell Moslems that they are worshipping the devil in Mecca? The problem with you is that you fail so see that people genuinely disbelieve in your God or the other Gods, there is a big difference between lack of belief and being angry at your God or the other Gods(you personally believe that those that disbelieve are angry, thats why you assume they are troubled), there are over 750 million atheist and non believers world wide(more than protestants) do you believe that all of us are troubled? are Christians troubled when they go around telling Moslem that they worship the wrong deity? I say this because there was a day you challenged me(on another thread) to take an oath and dare the bibleGod to do something bad to me personally because deep inside of you, you had this belief that somewhere inside of me I couldn't, perhaps you thought that I was just angry at the bibleGod and hid my anger as disbelief. After I showed you that I truly do not believe that the bibleGod exist by going ahead and taking the oath daring the bibleGod to take my life the next minute if he can to your surprise(nothing happened to me because he is imaginary), you came along with the stupid Christian mantra that the bibleGod loves me (he should take his love and shove it up his ass I don't need it). Just the way that Moslem are not troubled when they go around telling Christians that they are worshipping man not Allah, that's they same way that we atheist are not troubled when we go around trying to remove the cancer that is called religion. Any way you have been made to believe that a person that is without Jesus is already condemned and troubled. Apart from belief in the afterlife which their is no evidence of whatsoever and which Christians for example do not have a coherent and unanimous conception of , what advantage does Christianity or Islam offer to its adherents? is it more knowledge? more money and power? longer life? happiness, comfort and fulfilment? children?

Olabowale why are you stating the history written in the koran as facts?

Nigerians need to challenge themselves and start thinking, when have been sleeping for far too long.

redsun:
Good over evil.How can we keep saying we can't change?Are we allergic to change?Because it is like that,it must remain like that.Why?

The solutions to our problems is in our hands all we need to do is go for it.We have to set the programme,work it out and make the rules for good,we should be in the position of talking about space programme if that is what bothers us,not talking about how to cloth and feed babies,as if we live in a different world or we are not like other humans,every thing seems to be a problem.

Basic necessities of life,we lack,we still haven't conquered the first level of human social strata not to talk of self-actualization.Medically i don't depression exist in africa because people are born from day one into depressing situations,immune to depression,from cradle to the grave,u live wanting and wishing,a wasted life.Whiteman gets depress for just losing his girl,he is not talking about food.

Nigerians are still waiting on the Gods(Allah, Jehova,Jesus, Sango etc) to come and change the hearts of their leaders and the direction of the country(them go wait tire). Nigerians spend hours and days praying when 45 minutes of collective or general cleaning of their environments weekly will change a lot and remove most of the filt they have around them that is causing too much disease and premature death. Nigerians spend days in crusades and in islamic gatherings(some dying at such jamborees) but they can't spend 30 mins collectively organising themselves to clean their environment or fight for their rights. Its sickening.

Image123:
@bindex
faith simply means belief.You believe in that verse thats why you're ranting about it.You're excited because you think you found an error/mistake.The positives you're not happy about like Jesus been born of a virgin.that one to you is a lie and a fairytale.But the verse in question to you,it actually happened.quit hypocrisy

Nothing like that ever happened, read my post again. Do you think I believe that the war ever happened the way it was portrayed in the bible? Christains believe that the bibleGod is so powerful that he destroyed an army of 1 million in a day (which is another lie) but could not defeat men because they rode on chariots of iron? all I was trying to do is to point out how the entire belief sounds absurd. I guess the bible writers did not see this one before they included it in the bible. There are so many errors/ mistakes that have been corrected in the bible over time. I just wonder why this embarrasing one still remains there.

lucabrasi what are you preaching all this while?

Why did the british people gather us and call us Nigerians? Instead of working to help ourselves we are hoping for the Gods to come and save us from all our mad made endless litany of problems.

I hope he succeeds.

olabowale:
@Bindex: « #7 on: Yesterday at 10:53:52 PM »
The Children of Israel, aka the jews are not arch enemies of Allah. You know it and I know it. If you read the Qur'aan, you will see that the enemies of Allah are the disbelievers. You happen to fall in this class of people.

Allah says that everyone has his/her appointed time. Look at the condition of Ariel Sharon, today. Who could have predicted that he will be a mere shadow of his former self in the state of coma that he lingers, presently?

You, like every evil soul have your appointed time. You will soon wither to nothingness, say at the age of 150 years. I give you even another 100 years on top. It will be just like yesterday when you look back at a life full of evil deeds. Then you will meet the Lord God Allah the Almighty you so much denied. Where you gonna run to then, Bindex?

You will see how powereful He is then, when you because of your evil deeds is dragged into the hell of fire.

Ok I am a disbeliever hence I am an enemy of Allah, tell him to come and kill me if he can.

fantacie:
had i know comes at last. may God have mercy on u

God is great His loves his people that is y He does not want them to perish in hell, if only they can follow his way

What God? why do you guys keep lying that the bibleGod is merciful? Do you know what mercy means?

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.   (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

Remeber that the bibleGod commited

Genocide
Punishing people for crimes that they did not commit at all
Animal sacrifices
Human sacrifice
Animal cruelty
The killing of innocent children and animals
Ffavoring one nation over other nations for no reason at all
The toleration and regulation of slavery
Promoting of wars and urging people to go to war against other nations without provocation
Commanding people to keep virgins as the spoils of war
Interfering with a person's free will to do good
Tried to kill his best friend moses

Ohhh what a merciful God!!!

Image123:
@bindex
you're simply displaying your incapacity at understanding spiritual things. Its absurd that you have faith in that passage.you need more faith to understand well.

I dont have any faith in any passage I just found it ridiculous and absurd how it is that the bibleGod could not defeat people because they rode on chariots of iron. I bet the bibe writer did'nt proof read it before including it in the bible.

Image123:
@bindex
you continue to entertain me by your belief in this passage and disbelief in the other passages like God dividing the Red Sea

I am just trying to show you guys how absurd your beliefs are? You believe that the bibleGod killed one million people in a day, commanded the sun to standstill so that his people can kill off all their enemies but he was'nt able to defeat men because they had chariots of iron? this is really absurd.

FBS:
god is everything. he has no limitations.

The only limitation he has are men who are no chariots or iron, he just can not handle them.

Blessing and cursing at the same time very typical of Nigerians.