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Donald Duke is a good candidate for presidency however there are a few things I dont like about him.

The guy is always acting as if he is an American. Why must he dress western, act western, talk western all the time? Where is the Nigerian in him? Please!!

My favourite is Ima. I also like Iya Basira. I dont like Mase. I feel they could have sang it better. Well, maybe it's just me.

eLDee and ModeNine. Let the 2 best nigerian rappers collide! Yeah, baby!

Do ti e - eLDee (Return of the King album)
Champion - eLDee (Return of the King album)
Chiquito - eLDee (Return of the King album)
Many Emcees - eLDee (Long Time Coming album)
Numero Uno - Trybesmen (Plenty Nonsense album/Unreleased)

are you talking about yourself.? My favorite 10 in order of preference are:

1.  eLDee the don
2.  Biggie
3.  Snoop
4.  Wyclef
5.  50
6.  Dre of Outcast
7.  2pac
8.  Dr. Dre
9.  Rakim
10.Eminem

Forget about LL, Heavy etc.  It's not about how long.  It' how well.

Some people spend their time and money to create music that makes other people happy and you people decide to make them sad by stealing their hard work openly.

How do you think these artiste feel when they see your posts? They feel sad - and it's all your fault.
Really, does it cost so much to get an original CD? Most times, it's cheaper than the cost of a single good meal!

Think about it for a while.

Make somebody happy (and comfortable). I think they deserve it. Don't you?

mode 9 is better. his lyrics are badd!
don't think ruggedman's is all that but you can't argue with success. he's the most popular rapper in naija today.

and aint you guys feeling
eldee?
freestyle?
terry tha rapman?

eldee is my favourite though. listen to his latest full album on line at http://www.myspace.com/eldeeonline, http://www.eldeethedon.com

Guys, dont forget to vote for your favourite in the poll at the top of this page

twinkledew:
so Frustrating that i don't know who y'all are talking about. can u post a link so i can their pics or hear the songs. but please dint send whack songs to me.

check out bouqui pix and songs at http://www.justbouqui.com

Gino's video is one of my favourite videos because of quality of production and content. Lagbaja's videos, especially Never Far Away is also very solid because of the concept - quite touching. But the production media is not as tech as Gino's. And that Lagbaja's song is so nice.

Personally, I think Gino's No Bi God video is the best directed and produced musical video (also with special effects) to come out of Naija. Tell me which is better.

I remember it was number one for week's on one of them SoundCity top 10 countdowns.

I like this guessing game. It's currently 63,194. And I predict it'll hit 70,000 on November 30th. And 80,000 on January 15!

have you tried meebo.com?

dakmanzero:
the guy who said he gets 70-230k from starcomms: you lie. The starcomms phone is connected via 115.2kbps serial, it CANNOT go any higher.

That is only true for some phone models. Because I use a Starcomms HUAWEI phone and it has a 230Kbps modem. And I get close to that maximum speed once in a while.

@nosa101,

I guess you are in Lagos. I almost never have downtimes with Starcomms, and when it happens, it is speedily resolved. Maybe, the reception in your location is not so good, do you have problems making/receiving calls too? But I think their internet server is ok. Don't hesitate to call customer care[b] *123[/b] to share your problems. At times the problem is with some setup on your computer. I had that issue at least.

Also, it appears you are expecting too much from a dial-up connection. My average speed is about 115Kbps which I think is ok. And I use utorrent and bitche for torrents, and I have downloaded full-length movies with my starcomms. Though, it takes days. I usually reach torrent download speed of 8 kB/s. I rarely do streaming except for very small movies. If download is possible, I use DAP.

So, if Starcomms is so bad, why haven't you tried the alternatives?

@Candylips,

Looking at your code i have a few observations. firstly its not very good if you have your database code mixed with your controller code. What you should have done is to abstract out the database specific code into a DAO layer, inject the DAO into your Tapestry pages and then call the required method before then setting the page method.

I agree with you that DAO's are neater. But you really derive the most value from them when you are on very large projects and you do a lot of maintenance. Following my KISS principles, I would only refactor during maintenance when modularity will ease headaches. However, don't worry, I'll soon move totally to the DAO approach. Meanwhile, for curiosity's sake, can you post an example of how you accessed an object graph from a tapestry page class via a DAO?

Looking at your code well. it should work if you are just loading the values in a single table.

Like I told you, it's just a workaround. I actually have relationships that span graphs of objects in my code. I'm not even sure if it works so well. Even when the tapestry page fails to load the object, a refresh solves the problem. However, if you get a good solution to the problem, please let me have it. I must agree with you that some of my code needs refactoring though. I'm guilty of that and there is a reason why it's so - a steep deadline!

candylips:
@bioye

Yea thats me. But i don't think i ever gave the impression that i didnt like UML. Basically you guys never gave the project a chance so it died a natural death.

Common. I don't think you should blame 'we guys'. I posted a UML model of the HR solution and you outrightly disagreed with my approach saying we should go straight to code. I responded that you should post some code to get us started since I couldnt figure how we could collaborate without a proper design to refer to. I But you never posted any code! We let you take the lead but you dissappointed us. And I couldn't just continue because you seriously disagreed with my approach.

Anyways, that's in the past and no hard feelings. We can forget about all that now.

I was trying to access Nairaland yesterday afternoon but I could not. Was Nairaland down yesterday? Seun?

Old Shame:
Bioye

U are feeling me right? That Movie is of the meter!! I swear i have seen it more than 100 Times!! As a matter of Fact i am Tired of Baseball, my team is losing, i am going to watch that movie one more time!! I just Love it!!! You Like the Narration by my Homeboy? I love the Way he was getting rid of the rocks in the yard. And how about the Warden? Let me stop!!! Off to the Big screen

Men, that's one great movie. Tell you what - I hate seeing awesome movies on small screen or computer. So, I've decided I aint going to see ShawShank Redemption again until I get a big flat screen tv with attached stereo surround system. Talk about Heaven on Earth.

What do you think about the scene where Andy Duffrene hijacked the public address system and played the most beautiful music I ever heard even though I don't know what they were saying? I could commit crimes to experience that feeling in real life. Reminds me of Lagbaja's Never Far Away video. Guess what? Let's start a new thread dedicated entirely to this movie.

For all y'all who haven't seen this movie, it's voted the [b]best movie of all time on imdb. The whole world cannot be wrong, y'know.[/b]

So when are their videos coming out? Where are they now? Are they still touring the US? I have heard nothing about them lately. Hope they are marketing their album well. They need to make money o.

Just heard one of Sasha's new songs - A dara (don't mix it with the other A dara song - i prefer that one). She sure is better than I thought. I used to think that BOUQUI is better. But now, I need to listen to each of their albums to decide. BOUQUI's album is out and SASHA's will be out November. Make sure you get their albums. Let's support our own so their survive. Meanwhile, any other naija female mc dropped an album?

Just heard one of Sasha's new songs - A dara (don't mix it with the other A dara song - i prefer that one). I used to think that BOUQUI is better. But now, I need to listen each of their albums to decide. BOUQUI's album is out and SASHA's will be out November. Make sure you get their albums. Let's support our own so their survive.

candylips:
if u remember the guy that used to send code to the list and tried to propose a project thats me.

I'm guessing you are Femi, the guy that did not like UML then. Do you like it now?

candylips:
Well if you are manually loading your objects i guess you are working with a very simple object model or you are probably not really utilizing the full power of Hibernate.

Wont say so. More like I'm forcing the loading of the object from Java code since ognl seems to fumble. Sample code here:


Session session = HibernateUtil.currentSession();
Query query = session.createQuery("from Employer e where e.status = :status ";
query.setString("status",ApplicationConstant.APROVAL_PENDING);
List list = query.list();
if(list != null)
{
setEmployers(list);
}


@sbucareer
first, my name is bioye. I know about CORBA and the history.

I know the difference between a web server and an app server. And I agree with you that EJB or use of an App Server is not appropriate for some projects. I was just asking if people are not over-engineering in certain circumstance just like candylips stated. Infact, if it works well for you and you have no complaints, please use it!


I stress - You only need EJB or an App Server when you need distributed components across multiple servers. So, my question is do you need this currently?

I differentiate between needing and using distributed components here. Some people probably use them even when they don't need them.

Now, be careful not to mix up EJB, J2EE and Application Server features here. EJB is just one feature of J2EE. The only reason you need an App Server is if you are using EJB. Every other container service can be gotten from a container like tomcat or common third-party tools.

Further, I address your laundry list of J2EE container services,

1. Persistence - I don't have to use EJB or app server here because I can do everything with Hibernate and Tomcat
2. Security - Actually, a lot of J2EE security is implemented in the servlet container. Role based and declarative security is available in Tomcat, JAAS is available in J2SE. I can apply servlet filters too and you can use Acegi with Spring for even more options. Spring allows declarative security at the method level using annotations.
3. Database Transanctions - You can use the JTA API from Tomcat and Hibernate comes with advanced Transaction management. Spring even does better including declarative transactions.
4. Thread Pooling - Tomcat has this via Apache Commons Pool
5. Messaging - Though, MDBs is the easiest way to implement messaging, it is the least flexible. I can do my messaging in a web app by calling JMS API directly (OpenJMS) and deploying in Tomcat. It gives me the most flexibility too. JavaSpaces is also an option.
6. Distributed Databases - Hibernate supports this via JTA and Transaction Managers. Similar to 3 [/b]above
7. [b] Maintenance - Not clear here but if you are talking JMX, you can manage components via Tomcat 100%! Also, good OO programming helps.
8. 2pc/ xa - Spring will handle this well along with Hibernate + XA driver. Never heard of 3pc commit tho. . Similar to 3 and 6[/b]above
9. [b]Thick client support - 3rd party tools like Caucho's Hessian and Burlap or GLUE; and I can use RMI with Tomcat

At least, Juergen Hoeller, one of the guys that wrote Spring would probably know better. Please, read his 3 posts on this discussion at the serverside and come back and comment:
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=15228#58871

EJB and App Servers are great but for me, the alternatives are easier, safer, more innovative and most important, free!

And one last thing, don't you think it's a little impolite when you use a word like [b]mourn [/b]when referring to my comments?

if I'm wrong, i'm willing to learn

gbengaijot:
ok, i am new to java, infact its the first module "OOP using Java" in my second year in UNI. We are using BlueJIDE. Is that any as good as netbeans or eclipse?

BlueJ was specifically designed for teaching Java and is used in many American universities so I think you are still on track. Eclipse could require some configuration atimes especially with plugins so unless you are ready to do some tweaking, you might as well master the basics with blueJ first before venturing to Eclipse. For more involved programming, Eclipse should definitely be better than BlueJ.

my2cents:
I am not a JAVA coder but those I know who are, swear by IntelliJ. My assumption is that it probably isn't that popular because it has to be purchased, as opposed to Eclipse, say, which is basically free (well, unless you want to dabble with myEclipse )

Personally, I believe IntelliJ IDEA is arguably the best IDE in the market. It has consistently received top ratings in the IDE arena. Though it's not free, it's quite [b]affordable [/b]and it also has an [b]evaluation [/b]version. So, if I were you, I'll download IntelliJ IDEA and Eclipse and compare them for myself. Eclipse probably comes a close 2nd. I use Eclipse because it's free and because I have virtually limitless choice of features via plugins.

nosa101:
Starcomms is trash
This is from personal experience

Please, can you elaborate? When did you use it? How long did you use it for? Where are you located? What exactly were the problems you faced? And what are you comparing it to?

Because I have been using it for months now and I think it's quite ok.

@candylips,

Yes, I'm the one from juglagos.  I'm trying out to see if I can remember you but I seem not to have enough clues!  About how I manage Hibernate's lazy loading,  I guess it might be due to a limitation of ognl/tapestry/hibernate integration.  Have you tried Tapernate? for me, I 'manually' load the object in the Page class before accessing it on the Page template.  This is a workaround and I still have to find time to find a proper solution.  If you do let me know.

@sbucareer,

From my little understanding,  J2EE consists of many technologies apart from EJB.  EJB is only used to handle business logic and business model.  This is what I'm replacing POJO for.  The other things you've been talking about are services, which can be managed for me by, say, Spring, Hibernate and the J2EE API's (minus EJB). 

Hence, I don't even need an Application Server.  All I need is a web server like tomcat or jetty.

Services like clustering/load-balancing, transactions/JTA, JMS, JMX, security, JNDI, connection pooling can be used alongside Tomcat, Spring, Hibernate and POJO's and you wont miss EJB at all.  In fact, it does NOT make sense to use EJB unless you are doing distributed objects or declarative security.

My points are justified when you realise that everything in the latest EJB/ J2EE spec were copied verbatim from Spring, Hibernate and Xdoclet - the tools I have been using for years instead of EJB/App Servers.  So, right now there is a more compelling reason not to use the new EJB because they probably will end up copying my open source tools 2 years from now!

if I'm wrong, i'm willing to learn

I prefer Eclipse. For one, it is a faster IDE, better looking. Now, talk about productivity, refactoring, available plugins and Netbeans is just a non-starter! I keep trying it when people say it's now the best and i'm always dissappointed. Maybe it's great for people doing swing or j2me development. But for enterprise java, Eclipse all the way.

Eclipse install is that large because it supports so many features. But you can get a smaller download if you know exactly what you want by making the right selections on the eclipse.org website.

I actually joined nairaland for entertainment before I discovered the programming forum. I am quite delighted to meet so many programmers here, and i can only predict that this forum will encourage a lot of would-be programmers. I personally hope to learn and collaborate as much as I can here.

There are actually some nigerian mailing lists i've been part of but I thing this is by far the best model (nairaland). I am currently a member of 2 java mailing lists and 1 .NET mailing list in nigeria.

Well done y'all and don't stop giving.

EJB, Spring, Hibernate, Test Driven Development, Frameworks, Patterns. Quite Interesting.

If you guys dont mind, I'll share my perspective on Enterprise Java Development. My Java history went from Java SE/ AWT/Swing to Servlets then JSP then MVC then Struts then Webwork until I eventually chose Tapestry as web framework in preference to JSF. On the business logic side, I studied EJB for a short spell intending to use it wholeheartedly until I kept noticing serious criticisms of its design especially on theserverside.com.

Right now, I use Tapestry as web layer, pure java classes for business layer and Hibernate for persistence. Talking ioC/ Dependency injection I use Hivemind and not Spring. Personally, I'm yet to find a solution that cannot be solved using a simple servlet framework. So, my question is: is your use of EJB really justified? Dont you notice that you can do an equal or even better and simpler job by using a web framework with pure java and hibernate? I look forward to your responses.

For unit testing, try testNG, it builds on JUnit but addresses its shortfalls. A lot of gurus already advocate it. Cheers.

lafile:
simple question: was there a world before Genesis 1?

Yes, there was.  From the evidence in the Bible, Genesis occurred between 1850 BCE and 850 BCE.  In other words, there was no life as we know it then.   However, scientists' finding show the universe to be about 15 billion years old.  

The true origin of the story of Genesis can be traced back to the myths of ancient Mesopotamia, the Fertile Crescent, the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, in present-day Iraq.  It was one of the world's first civilisations (about 7,000 years ago).

The book of Genesis borrows largely from this oral myth called The Epic of Gilgamesh the stories of the creation of man in a wondrous garden (Eden), the introduction of evil into a naive world, and the story of a great flood brought on by the wickedness of man , that flooded the whole world (Noah's ark).

This is fact, for any one with an open mind who cares to find out.

I seek the truth - the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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Redemption song Bob Marley

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