₦airaland Forum

Gajagojo:
Well it is not smart forming opinions and spreading them without reading the bill

Is there actually anything like that in the bill?

I am telling you what someone told me here in NL and you're accusing me.......
Have you read the bill, because even those responsible for passing it have not entirely read it!!!!

Gajagojo:
What does the bill say about inheritance tax?

I asked someone online when I came across it and the person said that it's taxable.
I don't know if it's true and I don't think I want to read about it till the bill is finally passed so I can read the approved version.

Deepthoughts:
What I know about this tax bills issue is that while the government is afraid that it might lost the support of the people if it publishes the full details of the bills the north are afraid not to be tagged as religious bigots n retrogressives n so they are playing hide n seek with their approach in opposing the bills, from the snipets I got elsewhere,the, bills has something to do with intermittence tax which the Muslims are against as it is forbidden in Islam,the north would want the tax to shared centrally n the VAT net should be expanded to include livestocks which they feel would give them an advantage,I don't really think anyone stand to loss much ifPhe North's position is absorbed, I'm very certain that many in the south wouldn't accept inheritance been taxed,I don't support it either, individuals are suppose to pay tax while alive n doing business so what the point of taxing inheritance again?, there's certainly deceptions on both side of the divide as far as these tax bills are concerned.

You're right about it all. There's something hidden that's why the North is speaking half truths and pulling up sentiments and the FG is playing tom and Jerry and the entire South seems to take it whole and sinker( hook, line and sinker) and one wonders why......

As regards the inheritance tax, I just wonder what was/is going up in the head of whoever thought about such....
Anyways we await whenever they pass the bills...

PopQueenAgency:
They did it to Abacha. Any president can get it.

Let's wait till then.

PopQueenAgency:
Tinubu literally had to be re-upholstered, organs and all. He's not long for this world. The CIA, which is going rogue under Trump, will dispose of him on the operating table in France. If his life is regularly in the hands of a doctor, his life is forfeit.

Let's wait and see on whose watch that will happen if the CIA can pull up that kind of a tick tock stunt on a Nigerian President.
Wherever you got that information from, i wish them all luck in trying that piss act.

PopQueenAgency:
But Tinubu is very sick. Abacha had liver cirrhosis. I think the CIA will eventually eliminate him.

There was so much we heard about PMB and he did 8 years and he is still alive.
Be rest assured PBAT will do same and Atiku will be the party flag beater for PDP.

PopQueenAgency:
What if Tinubu dies like Abacha?

That will not happen.
That was how they wished PMB death, unfortunately he is still living.

[quote author=lucianohase post=133586792][/quote]May you be ensnared by your words.....

I remember back then when Wike was fighting Amaechi your kind of people told me I'm not a true riverine man and much more and some of those people kept claiming one village to another even from what we knew them back then in higher institution.....those persons today can't even make any speech because I told them when Wike will backfire let them also praise him......
It's just the beginning....
Wike fought his fellow Ikwerre man because of PGEJ and all purported riverine and ijaw men who remained silent.
Today, he is fighting an Opobo man who they say is an Ijaw man but Wike put a sitting senator of the federal republic of Nigeria an Ijaw son in prison because of this same Ijaw man.
Your hypocrisy knows no bonds.

lucianohase:
U r a bastard and i observe u dont have any foresight for saying this. Besides, I don't think u r from Rivers, neither have u ever been close to Wike before, else u will know .....An ally of urs can cause so much trouble for u before people, with the ulterior motive of bringing u down by causing disaffection for you which eventually affects the support u expect to get from a particular quarter. Anyways while am I even replying u, u are not a Rivers man and that's y u reason through cursed anus.

Simple question, are you from Rivers State you dey curse yourself because you no get village.

I have come to realize that those who curse with your kind of words never had a father who looked after them or even lay a claim to them when they were given birth or maybe sent your mother packing out of the house and so you curse such because you are a product of a single mother.

KEVIND:
https://saharareporters.com/2025/01/04/northern-elders-forum-again-opposes-tinubus-tax-reform-bills-calls-immediate-suspension

I am very sure the NEF was not just born yesterday and they have been well around more than 30 years and the so called
Northern Nigeria, which faces challenges such as insecurity, poverty, and youth unemployment has been suffering this with the North having been the region to ruled the longest if we add the ruling of the several military Head of State so they should stop shying away from reality and do the right thing thereby putting on their thinking caps and stop relying on the revenue from other regions.

I look at the comments of sane Nigerians who love Trump for his bullish talks and insults to Biden and the rest of the opposition and yet this same sane Nigerians are detesting Wike for the way he takes aggrieved persons to dishwashing......
I just see lots of sycophants and hypocrites who will always speak from both sides of their mouth and they will never change.

lucianohase:
Brother u are right....I used to like Wike alot then . I have accompanied one politician, a fellow ikwerri man to his house and Wike I know, was good. But when he became governor, arrogance
started, but I saw those traits then though, but tot he could have dealt with it, but now he thinks himself as God which is bad. TINUBU DOESN'T KNOW WIKE WELL, BUT I WILL ASSURE HIM THAT IF HE GIVES WIKE TO BE SO CLOSE TO HIM AND HIS DECISIONS AS PRESIDENT, WIKE WILL PLOT HIS DOWNFALL ....We in Rivers know him too well ...

Are you truly in Rivers State?
How will Wike plot PBAT downfall or will that be while he is still president or when he becomes former president?

lucianohase:
Wike should stop all these lies! How can he tell us as Rivers people, that Patience Jonathan and Good luck Jonathan were not instrumental to his becoming Governor. Besides, he was no match for Amechi as governor had it been Patience and her husband as the President didn't back him up coupled with their fallout with Amechi.....Wike should stop these lies, me as ikwerri man knew actually what transpired, how he was almost denied after he was used to fight Amechi, if not for Patience Jonathan who was carrying him on her back he would v been chased out of Rivers then. He can lie to south westerners, easterners, and the rest but not me Rivers man and Ikwerri Man who knew alot that transpired. Na wa oh!

Are you from Rivers State or even resident in there in or you just come online and just in sentiments?

ElevationD:
See, of the three who came through Sir Victor Odili, the only person who has not been governor is Magnus Abe. He covets that seat and the two men between him and the seat are his two friends and foes; Amaechi and Wike. The friendship looking like relationship between Wike and Abe has to do with interest only.,

In all, citizens must see politicians for who they are… deceivers. In the years that Wike was building bridges, did we hear what he was doing with salaries, pensions and gratuities? I think Fubara is doing better with making lives better for citizens.

I won't say Fubara is doing better whatsoever if it's just paying salaries, pensions and gratuities. Just like Amaechi and Wike, Rivers people will applaud him for the now till he allows a strange spirit to do spoilers for him and the masses will go against him and he will be in their bad books.

There was friendship before it turned to relationship with benefits and that's how it will be for a very long time.
I just hope the next governorship election will be interesting if they are able to bring up great calibre of aspirants and let them be different from the usual we normally see.

highchief1:
im not from rivers state we just Dey observe the whole thing from outside.Wike might be humiliated in 2027.If plenty people plan u e dey hard

Who be the people wey go plan am?
Everyone is in for stomach infrastructure....

Kuginzi:
https://dailypost.ng/2025/01/04/nobody-made-me-rivers-governor-i-fought-my-way-to-power-wike/

Whether you believe it or not that is just the truth and how it ought to be told and not what some others say it.
There is an aspect of an image of PBAT in Wike.

ElevationD:
It was not a hidden secret that Buhari had the intention of replacing himself with Ahmed Lawan. That’s why the brought all forms of crookedness into the law to remove Bashir Machina at the Supreme Court. I also believe that within the northern political elite, there was an agreement to replace Buhari with another northerner in all the major parties, except LP.

However, you must not take the words of Magnus Abe lightly or simply discard them. The expression of surprise on the face of Wike said it all. Wike was surprised that Abe could boldly say such things in the public view. It must not be taken lightly because it shows us the rottenness in the politics of our country. It shows the selfishness of the politicians and their complete disregard for the welfare of the citizens. Wike was simply the lucky man within the group. Looking at the Presidential figures, Rivers votes did not make that much impact for me. The difference for Tinubu was in the north. If Atiku had agreed to Wike’s terms, the votes from Rivers state would not still have made the difference for PDP.

In all the politicians in Rivers state were exposed to me as lacking in integrity. They simply want to follow the man who has the deep pocket, for the purpose of self preservation.

Nope, I ain't disregarding any of Magnus Abe's comment and though I did not watch the video, I'm wondering why will Wike's face go sore about it when it's all they do mostly politically except there's more to it that beats our knowing, knowledge and understanding.
I do know Magnus Abe said that he had a quarrel with Wike back then but they have reconciled but at the appropriate time he will let us know what the quarrel was all about.
Well, I guess Magnus Abe was just been blunt and I hope it's not in a wrong way to be taken by Wike.

Skooltynz:
Imagine an elite billionaire humbling himself to the level of the lowest in the society, this man has proven beyond doubt that he loves his country and willing to serve the common man, may God grant his heart desire true power comes from above God bless the true patriots of Nigeria

I so wished PO did not contest in the last presidential election I would have taken this as a good gesture truly but this is just one of the schemes of politics.
I just wonder who are those who fund all these things he had been doing since after the court cases ended.

ElevationD:
El Rufai worked dey hard to develop Abuja. His development strides caught the attention of members of PDP then. Just like Atiku who was his godfather, he left PDP to join APC. He was overconfident and carried away. His efforts in Kaduna were eroded by his religious bigotry. He has friends across the country. He campaigned for Tinubu and worked hard for Tinubu to become the President. How far with El Rufai today? He’s sidelined!

No one stays in political positions for life. Today it is your turn. Tomorrow it is the turn of others. No wonder Tinubu said that he had been coveting the Presidency for many years. He stayed patient, bid his time, fell out with powers and when it was time he got the position. Today it is Wike’s turn. Tomorrow it may not be. The same happened to Oshiomole.

Magnus Abe stated that all of them, including Wike played anti party in 2023. He said that they all failed but Wike won. I concluded instantly that politicians cannot and must never be trusted. While they appeared to eulogize him yesterday, they were also strategizing. For Magnus Abe, it was and always will be their PERSONAL INTEREST. So for Wike he can keep on dancing while his music plays. Very soon, just like the others, if he fails to deliver Rivers state to APC in 2027, he’s away from the center. He will be back in his house in PH enjoying his wealth and waiting for another time, if any comes again.

Don't bother about what Magnus Abe said. Magnus Abe and Wike have come a long way in politics and it's only political ideologies and loyalty that got them separated in the then politics of Rivers State where Wike remained in PDP and Magnus went with Amaechi to APC. I will always applaud Wike for his anti party pattern, because be it a selfish or whatever as many attest it to him, it would be foremost and foolish in all ramifications to allow a Northerner succeed another Northerner.

able20:
What is Wike's contribution to the Economic development of the present government
Has he reduced corruption in government
Has he stabilized the Naira rate
Did put an end to Banditry, Kidnapping and Boko Haram Terrorists
Mention one thing Wike did to grow the Nigeria Economy

For a Minister of the FCT, you are asking these quesions !!!¡

Please can you give it to your little child or little sister of less than 10 years to answer your questions......

ruggedtimi:
Wike fuxk up to allow an early fallout with Sims...he didnt manage the situation very well. Else the man is what i called a top shotta and one of the best from Niger Delta.

Last two months i attended a marriage introduction and i was privileged to seat just beside Chief O C J Okocha who happened to be a close friend to the bride's father....Man seems simple and well known across Nigeria...i say this because the visiting yoruba family had in their entourage renowned men SAN, VC of a uni and Profs..they all seem to known O C J Okocha and they gave him a special greeting.

OCJ is one of the very few notable SANs who rose from a humble beginning.

Christ4ever:
What makes him attractive to Tinubu and APC is his grassroot base. With Fubara pulling everything off his feet, he will soon no longer be of value and be discarded easily.

So, the fight is all about survival for Wike. His problem is being overbearing and arrogant. He pushed Fubara to the wall and that became his downfall.

You can't micromanage a sitting governor even if he is your child.

Wike will only become of no value if Fubara can wrestle power out of him and become useful in National politics and outside Rivers State. Otherwise if it's just this Rivers State wrestling, then Wike can't be fully beaten because give it or take it Wike still has his own followers that will remain and work with him.
In the next election, even Fubara will have to fall in line and allow APC get more than 25% votes and even more in Rivers State.
Those who are still with Wike who realmaon true to his cause and course have moved off from the thoughts of just money but true influence even in the midst of the hardship and challenges and Wike is learning from them all, leaning on them while they also lean on him.

Those on the other side are still on the side of stomach infrastructure and will have to build a solid base and true loyalty otherwise, the highest bidder will win the true battle.
You should understand that it's not always the one who wins the war is victorious, even the defeated is said to be victorious.

Love800:
How do one get C-of-O?

The uploaded document is for Rivers State but I think it not quite different from other States.



But you'll also get stamp duty from the State internal revenue office and it's very very very important.

sonofsteven:
Thank you boss

I've always wondered how come because of c or o wey takes 99yrs to expire, even if it expires, government can't seize your properties you bought,if it's so,then one shouldn't get c of o

Thanks for this,I appreciate

This particular issue is only common to FCT.

Now, it's important to get C-of- O because it is a proper and better legal document to use in case of collateral or some other thing in the court. Though we know not many persons are interested in getting it for reasons best known to them and I also think given our nature as a people.
Also I can't exactly say that the C-of-O is expected to last for 100 years before the government will claim the land because not all lands are government owned as in not all people take possession of government acquired lands.

I can't be certain but I do know that this 100 years stuff is only limited to those lands or properties acquired by government that they sold to private individuals and it also applies to government built houses/estates built under the low cost housing schemes and other schemes. This is what is applicable in other States but I think the government don't enforce it because it would become serious issues for most retirees.

Kuginzi:
https://punchng.com/new-refineries-nnpcl-may-cut-crude-supply-to-dangote-plant/

The FG should be thinking towards increasing the production of the crude and it's supply to all the refineries be it government owned or that owned by dangote.
We cant be going back and forth with some useless back door dramas.

sonofsteven:
Thanks boss

And when the c of o is revoked, so the land automatically becomes the government's own and they can give it to the next person?

From your explanations, I think the lands belong to the government, you only acquire it based on the c of o you are willing to abide by the rule or law that comes with it.... so if you fail to live up to it, you risk losing it and any structure on the said land too

Yes, that is it with the FCT.

sonofsteven:
My question on this c of o

Is it the land given to individuals by the government that he's talking about

Or any land in Abuja?

2... I thought once you get your c of o, no payment again till after 99yrs,then you renew

Someone with these knowledge should help me

From the information I can perceive since this demolition stuff arise, I think Abuja land law and revenue generation is different.
Though it's only applicable to certain high brow areas or should I say there are places in the FCT that such applies to and not necessarily the entire Abuja.
It's a must that land owners have a C-of- O and they are also made which is compulsory to pay ground rents which is to be paid every 5 years or thereabout. This ground rents collected is part of the IGR for FCT. Non payment of these ground rents means that the Minister can revoke your C-of-O.

abbey621:
We need a bloody revolution , any other measure won't work because like you said both the people that govern and the citizens are mentally challenged!

As regards the bolded......
Who will bell the cat?

abbey621:
That is why it needs to be enshrined in the Constitution in which no president or figure can repeal! Integrity is lost when survival becomes paramount, you can preach moral and integrity to someone starving but you won't have the same effect as someone who gives him or her FOOD!

The money saved from corruption can be set towards economical growth and prosperity, this is how China did it and my goodness it is MAGNIFICENT!

All these things you're saying is right but those who are responsible for writing or amending the constitution will not do what you're saying as long as it will affect them.
We need to nigerianize our own to fit the time, season and mentality of the people who govern and those governed.

Trendtips:
I guess you guys missed his point or I hope , i am right about what i think is the situation he is trying to point out

Yahaya Bello's controversial governance has sparked widespread criticism, yet he still receives overwhelming support from some quarters. His administration has faced allegations of corruption, electoral fraud, and incitement to violence, including a US visa ban for undermining democracy in Nigeria.

Bello's denial of COVID-19 and opposition to vaccines have also raised concerns. Despite these controversies, his supporters have rallied around him, even after his loss in the 2023 presidential election.

It's puzzling that despite his questionable leadership, people still welcome him enthusiastically. This paradox raises questions about the complexities of Nigerian politics and voter behavior.

Some of Bello's notable controversies include:
- Corruption Allegations: Misappropriation of ₦80.2 billion and laundering charges
- Electoral Fraud: Accusations of rigging and violence during elections
- COVID-19 Denial: Refusal to acknowledge the pandemic's severity
- Vaccine Opposition: Claims that vaccines are harmful
- US Visa Ban: Sanctioned for undermining democracy

These issues have led to widespread criticism, yet Bello's is welcomed with open arms

He will be welcomed by his people with open hands because those who came to welcome him have been promised to collect some monies for such act.

abbey621:
Examples! Examples!! Examples!!! The first and second sets of corrupt people to be hanged or sent to a firing squad would set a great example and the ultimate deterrence. NPF would not need to collect money if they were paid well and on time. No serious police officer would want to jeopardize his or her job/life if the job pays well and the consequence for illegal activity is very high.

The system does not need to be perfect, it only needs to have a solid foundation. If people can be set ablaze for stealing tomatoes or maggi, what stops the nation from applying the same hing to people who steal the destiny of millions of people?

All over the world there will always be people who work in government agencies that will not be paid well....
Also note that it's not about whether someone is paid well or not, it's about integrity of which many of us in the country lack.....

You see those sets of people who set on fire those who steal tomatoes, pepper and maggi, will not do same to their relatives who are in government offices who do worse, they will be the ones to protect them.
Are these not the same set of people who at first collect monies as political party delegates to elect an aspirant who may not even be the best and then at the national elections do the same thing.

abbey621:
You're not listening! How do you mitigate corruption without proper consequences and enforcement? I audit risk for a living so can you tell me about these magical mitigation tactics of yours that would work without congressional ammendments to the Constitution? We have preventative control(Policies, laws, audits) which stops corruption before it starts, we have detective which detects it (EFCC, ICPC) and corrective which is the consequence part (Electric chair, hanging, jail, fines).

Nigeria's problem has never been lack of laws but enforcement and you can't enforce something without setting examples. EFCC and other enforcement agencies should be indpendent and have their own budget and tools. Judiciary should be indpendent as well,

Furthermore, the Asian countries you mentioned implemented one of the strongest mitigation tactics the world has ever seen, even Western countries are jealous of their system. A country as stubborn and unpatriotic as Nigeria needs something similar, any other thing na BLAH BLAH BLAH!

It's good you said our issue is not the laws but about implementation....

You also talked about institutions being independent...
Now, it's no hidden thing that the NPF which is also one of the enforcement agencies also collects bail of which they always tell us in the police station that bail is free and even lawyers who are supposed to kick against such also aid on such !!!!!
Looking at the nature of Nigeria and the kind of people we are, how do you make supposed independent institutions become truly independent when the personalities don't have the intent of doing the right thing?
Who is ready to change this kind of mindset in government agencies because the man at the top might want to do it right but the subordinates will thwart his efforts and it also happens vice versa....