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DappaD:
I'll focus my attention only on the highlighted words—seeing your other words were said out of contempt.

So you agree that this “One-Man-Mopol approach” isn't the solution right? So why have you been hammering on it?

No problem in sight. The one-man-mopol approach encourages my pursuit for intimacy.

About this “revolution” you speak of, is it only in your heart you're saying this or is it in accordance with the Scriptures?

We are returning to the structure made without hands, Christ's own blueprint.

Mr Blabbermouth, the next global phenomena that will take place will be the “great tribulation” (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21) in which the political system(atheists and agnostics) will carry out the total DESTRUCTION of all false religion that are under the name of “Babylon the Great” (Revelation 17:15-17)
But the same Revelation said that there will be a number of people belonging to the same group that will survive the “great tribulation” since they all have one line of thought (1Corinthians 1:10) and have all resolved to wash their robes and make them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:9-17)

Those guys were an assembly of the called out ones, they pledge their allegiance to Christ directly, not through a denomination. Don't force it please.

So the real question should be:
“WHICH GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SURVIVE THIS GREAT TRIBULATION?”—Instead of waiting for some “revolution” which has no bearing on the Scriptures.

There is no special, apple-of-Jehovah's-eye denomination, they will all be dissolved and your JW won't be spared.

Problems arose the day men started owning churches.

Maximus69:
He should have made himself clear that he is now an atheist nah?

That was me multitasking and doing what others were supposed to do.

All his tactics of hide and seek is child's play for Maximus. I've dealt with their grandfathers in ATHEISM and they always fear me after sitting to discuss with me.

Show me where I did hide-and-seek.

One thing i don't do is once i notice that someone just like chatting with me without purpose i'll stop visiting the person. I have few of them in my area. There is one who often say "had it been i met you earlier i would have considered becoming a JW but i've vowed never to return to Religion"

OK.

DappaD:
Can't you see what the Blabbermouth guy and the other atheists are doing?
He and his cohorts aren't looking for any way you can reason with them—they're just like wolves ready to devour you for any statement you make.

If something this critical is to be discussed, then a fair ground—all resources should be used therein to show the reality of a God in the midst of its worshipers.
And not these immature challenges where the OP can set rules as he likes—yet breaks them in the process.

Shut it! I reasoned with Maximus69. The only issue is - The other guys should be the ones reasoning while I watch.

OkCornel:
You’re still on the religious lane. Only those who view God from the lenses of religion would believe the God of their religion to be real and that of others to be fake so... Still may not be of help in that regard.

Shock me... Are you saying Vishnu, Krishna, Allah and the God of Abraham are one and the same?

It's like IMAliyu is coming up with something fantabulous. My hopes are high sir, I'm expecting you.

E pain me sha.... Una chop my eyes.

Guys, I wan go sleep...

If only MuttleyLaff were here, this night might have been one of the biggest nights to remember (... I hope). Unfortunately, My Nigga is on a forced sabbatical.

Maximus69:
So you're expecting me to start debating with you who supposed to be the referee shey?

Debate? I don't have a position here, my own is to assess the models different believers give.

Sorry you've been exposed my guy, you should have called them to come and face me at least refute my logic by presenting their own to counter mine, not when you yourself is the one defending them!

How many times I wan call them? I don call taya.

Maximus69:
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Please don't go yet.
I said something about the test you tendered, give a remark on that first.

sonmvayina:
God is the Totality of the consciousness of the universe fully embodied and personified...

God is consciousness personified.... God is existence itself..
There is only one creator.. It is just the nomenclature that is different. What you refer to God or goddess are nothing but the personification of natural laws and principles..
Devil is simply the personification of darkness symbolized as the moon...
Each of this principles exist within us... So we are consciousness or God dwelling within a physical body made from dust..

...
Thou art a comedian.

OkCornel:
Lol, so you mentioned me to prove to you that the origin of life, the sum of all consciousness, energy and intelligence aka “God” has a religion?
Boring chit chat after a long day I must say.

No. I mentioned you to proffer a test that Proves your God is the real God while others are fake.

I think I should usher in the Muslims.
@IMAliyu, how about you give a try

Blabbermouth:
Does every single worshipper of thy God exhibit this attribute? I don't think so. If so, there is no difference still. Some Atheists exhibit LOVE, JOY and PEACE... Some Muslims express LOVE JOY AND PEACE... Many Confucianist exhibit LOVE JOY AND PEACE. Some Christians of other denomination exhibit LOVE JOY AND PEACE.

Maximus69, say something.

I feel like crying guys.

All of una fall my hand. Na only to they argue, they do cho cho cho for every thread we sabi, come do better thing wey go turn things around now they are claiming "Do not tempt me"...
Codetemplar! Shadeyinka! Okcornel! Puh-leeaze give us something we can work with.

Maximus69:
My guy, do you believe in the God of Elijah?

Max is about to shadowbox. Who is Elijah? You mean Elijah Mikaelson?

We grow wings when it comes to arguing , Ohhh so swift to mock others, ohhh so quick to call many foolish. Where are the religionists now?

Considering the amount of theists we have on Nairaland, I was expecting a fierce downpour of Wisdom, power or Intellect from above!

Maximus69:
I thought you said nobody should make reference to the Bible!

So what exactly brought Elijah or Abraham into this discussion?

I believe you set the rules and you will stick to the rules but it's like i can't understand you anymore now!

The guy was doing as if he doesn't understand simple English. I was giving him a story he was familiar with, to show what the task is actually about.
No bible references bro.

DiegoMaria:
I dunno about you guys ,but i believe that a God exists

That's not the issue boss. See the article you used when you said - "but I believe that a God exists"...
Unfortunately, we have 4000+ gods, who are/is the real God (or gods)? How do we know He is the real God while the others are fake?

Maximus69:
(1) The title "GOD" connotes Supreme Being, this means this being must control all his adherents as obedient worshipers so there must be oneness in thought and ambitions, all those worshiping (obeying) this God must be recognizable by their code of conduct.
Most Gods have this ability but where my own surpassed all is the ability to make the virtuous attributes that's needed in the human society like LOVE, JOY and PEACE work amongst his own worshipers despite picking them from different races under the heavens!

Does every single worshipper of thy God exhibit this attribute? I don't think so. If so, there is no difference still. Some Atheists exhibit LOVE, JOY and PEACE... Some Muslims express LOVE JOY AND PEACE... Many Confucianist exhibit LOVE JOY AND PEACE. Some Christians of other denomination exhibit LOVE JOY AND PEACE.[/quote]

It turns out that many of our religionists are nowhere to be found.

Image123:
Lol, well done Mr Elijah. Note that the real Elijah wasn't addressing fools. He addressed people halting between two opinions. There is not a single one halting between two opinions here or are you?
And if Elijah already proved that his God is the real God, why on earth are you wasting time here?

Why can't you repeat it?

MikeMicheal:
Here is my proof that OZUMOBULU the only true God is real:
Typing...

Is OZUMOBULU still typing?

OtemAtum:
There is only one thing and it is EXISTENCE. Existence is a source of energy and everything in existence is a part of Existence. This Existence is what I call God Almighty. Each individual is just a part of it.

Existence (Energy/God) is neither created nor can be destroyed, but it can be in one form or the other.

Is existence a person, pure energy, matter or what is existence's natural state?

Maximus69:
So i'll present this logic to prove that only JWs have the true God, and i challenge anyone be it those claiming religionsists, atheists or agnostics to debunk the logic!

We are all intelligent creatures and each person has what he wish to become or do with his life no matter the believe or disbelieve.
So here is the logic:-
THEORY
PRACTICAL APPLICATION
BENEFIT

[1]If you don't have any THEORY to explain why you're here or what you're doing here then you can't be joyful, there must be a form of THEORY in your head making you feel purposeful and satisfied that you're meeting your expectations.
That's the reason why everyone wants to hold onto one THEORY or the other whether Evolution or Creation!

Carry us along sir, what is/are the "real theory/ theories?"

[2]The next test is PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the THEORY you're carrying in your head. There must be one thing or another that you're to do in line with that THEORY. This is what you hold so dear and compel anyone close to you, be it your own children, families, friends, colleagues and neighbours, it's not compulsory but at least it will help you to cohabit peacefully with others. The irony of this is 75% of people miss out completely on this, their THEORY is not practicable in any way so they have nothing to PREACH or TEACH anybody. That's why Atheists and Agnostics will only complain about what others are teaching, they don't have what it takes to carry others along!

After proving beyond doubt that the theory you speak of is real... Then we will come to its application.

[3]The last test is the BENEFIT that results from the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the THEORY.
This is where all other school of thought failed woefully, leaving just one group standing!
All their theories and practical applications can't unite them with their fellow adherents in other lands, so whenever there arises any strife caused by jealousy or envy it will surely lead to the death of their cherished THEORIES and the next thing you'll see is killing themselves like animals!
Politics and Racism are the two major time bomb that render all their THEORIES futile!

With this logic JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is the one and only organization like the last body standing tall above all of them! Isaiah 2:2-4

What are the benefits of this real theory?

Image123:
Oya ohh, the gods should quickly show up for scrutiny and attestation. Time is going. We have enough atheists and agnostics on board to scrutinize you, let the admission process of Clownland begin.

Elijah created a reasonable and effective test, and everyone agreed to it. The God of Abraham sent down fire from heaven while Baal could not even give a smoke.
Elijah's test proved two things
1. His God is the "real" God
2. Baal is a fake.

We are asking for Men like Elijah to either by signs, divine wisdom, knowledge or whatever means available make everyone else surrender and say - Truly, truly, your God is the real God.

1StopRudeness:
We are online... what do want as proof..u took scriptures off the table..

We are in the 21st century bro. If your test requires offline means, we can easily connect with you visually through our gadgets.
How do we know(beyond doubt) your God is the real God?

Maximus69:
So i'll present this logic to prove that only JWs have the true God, and i challenge anyone be it those claiming religionsists, atheists or agnostics to debunk the logic!

We are all intelligent creatures and each person has what he wish to become or do with his life no matter the believe or disbelieve.
So here is the logic:-
THEORY
PRACTICAL APPLICATION
BENEFIT

[1]If you don't have any THEORY to explain why you're here or what you're doing here then you can't be joyful, there must be a form of THEORY in your head making you feel purposeful and satisfied that you're meeting your expectations.
That's the reason why everyone wants to hold onto one THEORY or the other whether Evolution or Creation!

[2]The next test is PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the THEORY you're carrying in your head. There must be one thing or another that you're to do in line with that THEORY. This is what you hold so dear and compel anyone close to you, be it your own children, families, friends, colleagues and neighbours, it's not compulsory but at least it will help you to cohabit peacefully with others. The irony of this is 75% of people miss out completely on this, their THEORY is not practicable in any way so they have nothing to PREACH or TEACH anybody. That's why Atheists and Agnostics will only complain about what others are teaching, they don't have what it takes to carry others along!

[3]The last test is the BENEFIT that results from the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the THEORY.
This is where all other school of thought failed woefully, leaving just one group standing!
All their theories and practical applications can't unite them with their fellow adherents in other lands, so whenever there arises any strife caused by jealousy or envy it will surely lead to the death of their cherished THEORIES and the next thing you'll see is killing themselves like animals!
Politics and Racism are the two major time bomb that render all their THEORIES futile!
With this logic JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is the one and only organization like the last body standing tall above all of them! Isaiah 2:2-4

Let me remind us that your test (provided it's reasonable and effective) should actually be able to do 2 things simultaneously;
1. Proof that your God/gods is(are) real
2. Show how others are fake gods.
Sir Maximus, does your test satisfy those conditions?

So, can anyone proffer a simple test by which we can know who the real God is, amidst the 4000+ gods?


1. Do not quote any religious books

2. Your test should be effective and at the same time, reasonable.

We have enough atheists and agnostics on board to scrutinize your tests, so take your time.

Who is Eligible? Atheists, Agnostics, Christians, Muslims, traditionalist, Jews and anyone that believes in God/gods/Goddesses
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