₦airaland Forum

Osagyefo98:
Mr face Akwaibom and leave Igboland.

Stay your lane.

Biafra is dead and Kanu is a mumu. I'll speak on what ever I please if you dont like it fight me.

PDJT:
-Blue3k have started another anti-Igbo thread. Is that jealousy that I perceive from here or just inbuilt IgboPhobia?

-Man, you’re truly a waste of space.


-Meanwhile, I thought you’re from Akwa Ibom, where babies & women are still being killed for their “wizardry and witches abilities”?

Lol the people doing that are criminals and should be jailed or sentenced to death. Doing harm to children is always evil. How's this thread anti Igbo anyway? You guys lack reading comprehension skills.

goodnessme1:
But you should first remove log in your eyes before removing speck in another man.

Lol you dont understand the phrase or context behind it. In your mind nobody should speak until the attain perfection. If you notice social ill you want to call out do so.

goodnessme1:
But when did yorubas start caring about Igbos?

Who knows or cares. Does someone have to love you to tell you the truth. 2+2=4 no matter the source.

Bkayyy:
Your comment on my post shows your true intention of creating this thread.

Lol dumb comments show you lack reading comprehension skills. You think the article demonizes igbos when it shows various Igbos that are against it. I noticed you avoided the my question because it's obvious you dont actually care about those topics.

Bkayyy:
Are you sure you do understand what you read?

I understand better than you hence why I dont see this an an attack on Igbos. When are you going to make threads on numerous social ills you detest?

Make threads on topics you care to discuss stop crying like a wounded animal. The BBC article didnt dehumanize anyone. It's actually Igbos themselves working to change the culture. Maybe you should read the article instead displaying your persecution complex.

Bkayyy:
When are going to talk about the dehumanization of women in the North ( women are properties in the North)?
When are we going to talk about the forced hijab and barqa dressing on women in the North?
When are we going to talk about allowing women to inherit land and including them in communal laws in the North?
When are we going to talk about the harassment of women wearing normal clothes by hisbah in the North?
When are we going to talk about segregating women in tiny room in the mosque?
When are we going to also talk about the segregation of Hausa bakwai and Hausa Banza (which is like the osu caste)?
When are we going to talk about not allowing an hausa man to be emir in his own land in Northern Nigeria?
When are we going to talk about forcefully prosecuting a Northerner in Sharia courts?
When are we going to talk about not allowing female yoruba monarchs to marry and give birth like queen Elizabeth?
When are we going to talk about the use of bobaku by yoruba Obas?
When are we going to talk about the use of human parts as traditional items in the West?
When are we going to talk about not allowing women own ancestral lands in the West ( not acquired lands)?
When are we going to talk about denying women their right to be emirs in the North?
When are we going to talk about denying women their rights to be Ooni of Ife and Alaafin of oyo?
When are we going to talk about not allowing women to be the Oba of Bini?
But here we are where everybody thinks the Igbo culture should be changed to accommodate western views while theirs should not be touched.
I only support changing customs that abuse human rights. But trying to demonize a tribe based on some side of their culture which seems weird to you is what I am against.
All African and the world's customs have bad sides, we should all work to mend those sides.

dlaw70:
in other words,it is impossible for democratic government to create new states.

Goodmarlian:
Forget OKun or kwarra state it the west it can never happen..

Its not impossible just difficult. They should opt the join another SW state since it requires less consensus among the nation. If they opting to join a sw state they would have direct interest in expanding. They would simply have to consider taking in the states existing debt.

(b) a proposal for the boundary adjustment is approved by -

(i) a simple majority of members of each House of the National Assembly, and

(ii) a simple majority of members of the House of Assembly in respect of the area concerned

muykem:
Majority of Igbo especially those ones here in nairaland are actually OSU.

Nothing wrong with that.

Notice the Okun Development Association people didnt follow any of these steps when requesting to become a new state. Fact is most of these groups dont bother to do basic research before embarking of their goals. If they're serious about their goals finish step A before jumping to B. The association has to organize better.

The question is whether the other states in the federation will vote for a new state. The allocation money will futher be divided and electoral politics will be changed.

Chapter 1 part 2 section 8-1

An Act of the National Assembly for the purpose of creating a new State shall only be passed if-

(a) a request, supported by at least two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding the creation of the new State) in each of the following, namely -

(i) the Senate and the House of Representatives,

(ii) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and

(iii) the local government councils in respect of the area, is received by the National Assembly;

(b) a proposal for the creation of the State is thereafter approved in a referendum by at least two-thirds majority of the people of the area where the demand for creation of the State originated;

(c) the result of the referendum is then approved by a simple majority of all the States of the Federation supported by a simple majority of members of the Houses of Assembly; and

(d) the proposal is approved by a resolution passed by two-thirds majority of members of each House of the National Assembly.

Front page: Lalasticlala mynd44

What a backwards cultural practice. Its sad the couple decided to kill themselves instead of just marrying and living their lives. People should lesrn to be stromg in their convictions so they dont bow to negative peer pressure.

Ogadinma, who also asked me not to use her surname to protect her family, faced discrimination when she ran for political office about 10 years ago.

Petitions poured in from people who said that she was "unsuitable" to contest - and the national leader of her party, who was Yoruba, found it difficult to support her, convinced that she stood no chance.

That's tough, hopefully people learn to judhe by content of character in the future. The party should stuck by her and made anti discrimination on their platforms. Oh well who knows what they saw in their internal polls about the topic.

By Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani
Nigeria

In a tragedy reminiscent of Romeo and Juliet, a couple in Nigeria killed themselves earlier this month after their parents had forbidden them from marrying because one of them was a descendant of slaves.

"They're saying we can't get married... all because of an ancient belief," the note they left behind said.

The lovers, who were in their early thirties, hailed from Okija in south-eastern Anambra state, where slavery was officially abolished in the early 1900s, as in the rest of the country, by the UK, Nigeria's colonial ruler at the time.

But descendants of freed slaves among the Igbo ethnic group still inherit the status of their ancestors and they are forbidden by local culture from marrying those Igbos seen as "freeborn".

"God created everyone equally so why would human beings discriminate just because of the ignorance of our forefathers," the couple said.


Many Igbo couples come across such unexpected discrimination.

Three years ago Favour, 35, who prefers not to use her surname, was preparing for her wedding to a man she had dated for five years, when his Igbo family discovered that she was the descendant of a slave.

"They told their son that they didn't want anything to do with me," said Favour, who is also Igbo.

At first, her fiancé was defiant, but the pressure from his parents and siblings soon wore him down and he ended their romance.

"I felt bad. I was so hurt. I was so pained," she said.

Prosperous but 'inferior'

Marriage is not the only barrier slave descendants face.

They are also banned from traditional leadership positions and elite groups, and often prevented from running for political office and representing their communities in parliament.

However, they are not hindered from education or economic advancement.

The ostracism often pushed them to more quickly embrace the Christianity and formal education brought by missionaries, at a time when other locals were still suspicious of the foreigners.

Some slave descendants are today among the most prosperous in their communities, but no matter how much they achieve, they are still treated as inferior.

In 2017, 44-year-old Oge Maduagwu founded the Initiative for the Eradication of Traditional and Cultural Stigmatisation in our Society (Ifetacsios).

For the past three years, she has been travelling across the five states of south-eastern Nigeria, advocating equal rights for descendants of slaves.

"The kind of suffering that the black people are going through in America, the slave descendants here are also going through the same," she said.

Ms Maduagwu is not a slave descendant, but she observed the inequality while growing up in Imo state and was moved to tackle it after watching the devastation of her close friend who was prevented from marrying a slave descendant.

During her trips, Ms Maduagwu meets separately traditional persons of influence and slave descendants, then mediates dialogue sessions between the two groups.

"Men sat down to make these rules," she said. "We can also sit down and remake the rules."

Descendants of slaves among the Igbo fall into two main categories - the ohu and the osu.

The ohu's ancestors were owned by humans, while the osu's were owned by gods - people dedicated to community shrines.

"Osu is worse than slavery," said Ugo Nwokeji, a professor of African studies at the University of California, Berkeley, who thinks the osu were wrongly classified as slaves by the missionaries.

"Slaves could transcend slavery and became slave masters themselves but the osu for generations unborn could never transcend that."

Discrimination against the osu does tend to be worse.

While the ohu are marginalised as outsiders - with no known places of origin or ageless ties to the lands where their ancestors were brought as slaves - breaking taboos about relations with the osu is accompanied, not just by fear of social stigma, but of punishment by the gods who supposedly own them.

Favour's fiancé was told by his father that his life would be cut short if he married her, an osu.

"They instilled fear in him," she said. "He asked me if I wanted him to die."

'Grassroots engagement'

Such fears have made it difficult to enforce laws against discrimination which exist in the Nigerian constitution, plus a 1956 law by Igbo lawmakers specifically banning discrimination against ohu or osu.

"Legal proscriptions are not enough to abolish certain primordial customs," said Anthony Obinna, an Catholic archbishop in Imo state, who advocates for an end to the discrimination. "You need more grassroots engagement.

In her advocacy, Ms Maduagwu educates people on the various ways in which traditional guidelines on relating with the osu have been breached, "without the gods wreaking any havoc".

"Today, we are tenants in their houses, we are on their payroll, we go to borrow money from them," she said.

Such association with the osu would have been unthinkable in the past.

No official data exists on the number of slave descendants in south-eastern Nigeria.

People tend to hide their status, although this is impossible in smaller communities where everyone's lineage is known. Some communities have only ohu or osu, while some have both.

In recent years, increasing agitation from ohu and osu has led to conflict and unrest in many communities.

Some slave descendants have started parallel societies with their own leadership and elite groups.

About 13 years ago, the osu in Imo state formed a group called Nneji, which means "from the same womb".

Among the benefits that Nneji offers its thousands of members is arranging marriages between their adult children in different parts of the world, saving them the potential heartbreak of relationships with "freeborn".

"People come to you when they want a favour from you," said Ogadinma, a septuagenarian from a wealthy osu family, whose husband is a patron of the Nneji.

"But those same people, when your children want to marry their children, they complain that the person is osu."

Archbishop Obinna, who has been criticised for officiating at the weddings of what he describes as "mixed couples", said: "I have had to safeguard some of the couples from the violence of their parents and relatives."

Ogadinma, who also asked me not to use her surname to protect her family, faced discrimination when she ran for political office about 10 years ago.

Petitions poured in from people who said that she was "unsuitable" to contest - and the national leader of her party, who was Yoruba, found it difficult to support her, convinced that she stood no chance.

"He told me plainly: 'There is something Igbo people say that you are, which will not allow your people to vote for you.'"

Discrimination based on slave caste is not common among the Yoruba or Hausa, Nigeria's two other major ethnic groups. But it has been reported among some ethnic groups in other West African countries, such as Mali and Senegal.

Ms Maduagwu's Ifetacsios group now has four staff and about a dozen volunteers. The work has been slow and hard, but a handful of traditional rulers have embarked on the process of abolishing the inequality in their communities.

She says she was initially shocked by the attacks on social media from people opposed to her activism.

"I had to join a lot of Igbo groups to spread the message and a lot of them insulted me and told me that their tradition will remain."

Nollywood factor

Such attitudes even among the educated and enlightened are perpetuated by African literature such as late Nigerian writer Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart, Ogadinma believes.

"He was a person dedicated to a god, a thing set apart - a taboo for ever, and his children after him," Achebe, who was Igbo, wrote of the osu in his 1958 classic.

"He could neither marry nor be married by the freeborn… An osu could not attend an assembly of the freeborn, and they, in turn, could not shelter under his roof... When he died he was buried by his kind in the Evil Forest."

Ogadinma worries that Nigerian students around the world who read the novel as part of their curriculum subconsciously adopt traditional beliefs about the osu.

"If every generation of Nigerian children is reading about this osu, don't you think it will affect their thinking?" she said.

Nollywood also plays a part, according to Aloysius Agbo, an Anglican bishop in Enugu state, who advocates for an end to the discrimination.

Nigerian films have their dedicated TV channels, including the wildly popular Africa Magic.

"Beliefs that we already accepted as superstitious are now coming back as real truths because of what we watch on Africa Magic," said Bishop Agbo. "They do it as showcasing our culture but they are not conscious of the impact on society."

But with the recent Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests around the world, Ms Maduagwu hopes that more Igbo people will be inspired to change their attitudes.

"If more people will reflect that the agonising journey of the black Americans began here, the BLM protests will affect our work positively," Ms Maduagwu said.

"Africans need to look inwardly to see what is happening in their homeland."

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54088880

Hunchogee:
Read that news again. What were they saying about 2017

It didnt say they applied for OGFZ. The OGFZA website list proposed free trade zones and they arent listed anywhere.

Hunchogee:
My brother approvals is thier problem, I just notice that Buhari is the only president have notice that easily approved project... What now make this easy for Port notel is because that area now is a free trade zone thanks to Udom Emmanuel..
The recent approval of the biggest free trade zone by federal government to Akwa Ibom state has really make it possible for us to easily attract investors...
You know in a free trade zone area you no longer need federal government approvals for land acquisition and others again..

I dont buy the excuses but hey seeing is believing. If the wanted free trade zone the could got registered to get that before Akwa Ibom stepped in. They never submitted applications to either agency that approves them.

Lawalatm:
I wish he was in Nigeria while making such comment.....he would have earned my respect.....foolish ideas produce selfish and wicked comments

The incompetent police let him escape.

PDJT:
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-I thought you’re from Akwa ibom?

Lol ipobs are a foolish bunch. Even Kanu knows your lives are worthless hence why will sacrifice yall by the millions. People as dumb yall will never have a country facts.

"Mazi Nnamdi Kanu said, the greatest mistake of our fathers was to surrender to Nigeria during Nigeria/Biafra war. As am writing to you now, Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is not happy why that war was haulted and our people surrendered and embraced one Nigeria. To him our surrender was our greatest mistake.

Lol what a mumu. Phillip Effiong made the only logical decision. Biafra fate was sealed as soon as nigeria achieved the naval blockade. Ipobs are truly a foolish bunch.

The leader of the idiotic people of Biafra has spoken. The guy sounds like Griffith from Berserk ready to sacrifice everyone for his goal. They're willing pawns so no need to cry for them.

PDJT:
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-I thought you’re from Akwa ibom?

PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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PDJT:
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These guys have been talking for years with nothing to show but press statements and photo ops. I've posted about them maybe once or twice but they done nothing of interest since.

PDJT:
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I think the recent developments will be interesting. We'll see alot ethnic groups reunify if they're secessfull. The only issue is mlst of these groups are disorganized and dont read constitution. The only big issue will be the states debts being reorganized. They state that annexs the other will naturally take on their debt.

myobjective:
Point of correction, the oil in Ondo state belongs to the Ilaje people who are Yorubas.

I repeated what people say. In reality all land and mineral resources belong to government which why nigerian dont get royalty checks despit being the "owners". If people understood this they would anend constitution to correct this.

Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, the entire property in and control of all minerals, mineral oils and natural gas in under or upon any land in Nigeria or in, under or upon the territorial waters and the Exclusive Economic Zone of Nigeria shall vest in the Government of the Federation and shall be managed in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly