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otokx:
Shameful, it appears NYSC needs to be remodelled.

Why not eliminate it? The institution doesn't need to exist.

Lol because you guys are releasing foreigner after they wreak havoc on your society?

Skoonheid:
you would wonder why it's so easy for people to be brainwashed by cosmetic projects like 21 storey building built at outrageously inflated costs for IOCs that aren't remotely interested in such a project.

Mobil showed interest as you can see in related threads. The big question is are they going to relocate their HQ to Akwa Ibom. That was the stated goal for the project. The only other criteria for b sucess is profits it post but when do they open their books?

Guilt by association is the new standard now?

Bump ugm attack checkpoints now. These things aren't even safe for cops it seems.

PlatGurGongo:
You southerners always heap the blame on Middlebelters, forgetting that you own a large chunk of the problem.

What did Awo and Zik use the power of the Western and Eastern regions to do?
Instead of them to work together and divide the old northern region, by helping liberate the Middlebelt groups, they went on working against each other and struggling for who will be the Sardauna's favorite.

A good number of Idomas and Igalas for example were part of Southern Nigeria together with the Igbos, but they were transferred to the Northern protectorate. Yorubas did nothing for Ilorin and Kabba people and the Ebiras and Nupes who are very similar to them.

What are you tagging me in this for? I didnt condemn you for the actions of people taken decades ago? I asked you today why are the groups you're currently asking for new states instead of Decentralized policing and prisons? I also grave you another long term solution which was to secede and join states you claim are your brothers. The same solution works for anyone else that claims the current borders are unfair being Igala, Idoma igbo, yoruba etc.

PlatGurGongo:
I started by calling you Southern Kaduna people my brothers and sisters even though I am from Plateau state because in reality, there is absolutely no difference between Plateau and Southern Kaduna people except for imaginary boundaries that were drawn by colonial masters.
Culturally, Linguistically, Ancestrally, Mentally, Socially, Physically and Religiously, the people of Plateau and Southern Kaduna are basically the same.

Written by
(Noah K. Son_Of_The_Plateau)
Plateau Gurara Gongola.

Justice Na’aba said the law creating the emirates is not in compliance with the constitution.

What section of the Constitution did this violate?

Bonavi:
Arewa group that is controlled by the Fulani u mean

Nope run by hausa for hausa Fulani interest. You're still crying for them after being called out as a Nyamuri flat.head? I really don't get why you're trying to push this victim narrative on them. We were correct its never Hausa's themselves making these sort of threads just busy body outsiders.

Oh I heard about this from Apostate Prophet. Its 2hrs so I'll just listen to the whole things on the road or something.

PlatGurGongo:
State creation is not going to bring any solution to the problems.
Plateau is it's own state controlled by the Indigenous people, but as long as people cannot control their borders and their security, it all amounts to nothing.

Restructuring or division is the only solution.

Then why are lots asking for new states instead of Decentralized policing and prisons? If you believe everything You're saying that should be the goal then. What other structure do you want?

Captain8:
guy, you too dumb.... fulanis are not nigerians but invaded hausa land with force as normadic led by their warlord dan fodio....
fulanis occupied hausa lands after defeatin the hausas in that holy war known as jihad war....they subjected the hausas after the war....fulanis are like igbos, they don't love any other tribe except themselves alone though, they might pretend to love others by tryin to form group

Lol you're rambling like a mumu about history your dont understand now. The Fulani didn't invade they settled in the land and established themselves as herdsmen, traders and scholars you clown. They were in Nigeria since 14 century at least. Dan fodio was lived in Gobir and was advisor to the king. Yunfa the king declared war on him first then Dan fodio retaliated with a jihad. They hausa kingdoms lost because they were weak and fragmented.

Read a history book instead of rambling like mumu you demented ipob. A Nigerian is simply someone who's parents and grandparents were Nigerian by 1960. Why are you crying over historical events like wars weren't the norm?

Captain8:
all fulanis are normads... fulani occupation is cow grazing..... all fulanis are herders includin buhari...
anyway miyeti halla is now a strong advocacy that speak for fulani interest..... miyyeti halla meet for fulani needs and fight for it people (fulani) survival in nigeria.....killed one fulani man and see miyyeti halla coming out....

but some time hausas will be killed in the south east and in ikorodu lagos but no hausa body to speak for them..... i remember how some ipob killed hausa suya sellers at enugu with no provocation but one hausa body to condemned it...... what a pity

Lol you're a mumu if you really believe every fulani is nomadic when u clearly see they're not. Buhari is not nomadic abd owns a ranch. Millions of fulanis hold other occupation outside of that industry. That argument is to stupid too dwell on past that.

Arewa groups who represent them speak on it. Did you read the highlighted post or not? Let's go over this macban speaks for herdsmen not professors or barbers even of they're fulani. Arrewa people congress was set up for hausa fulani people. Then they also have local commuity leaders who represent them.

Captain8:
miyeti halla speak for the fulani ethnicity.... who speak for the hausa?

Did you read the highlighted section or not?

Captain8:
despite those collective groups fulani and others still have their homogenos self body that speak and fight for them alone...... where is the hausa own?

What is the clown rambling about? You didn't see the highlighted section I point out or what? MACBAN and miyyeti halla speak for herders not every fulani you clown. Second Hausa-fulani intermingled deeply so it would be pretty pointless to split the group if its about power. I already mentioned that in my initial post. You're complained the community leader was too local but the now this group to broad even though it represents hausa fulani interest.

Captain8:
guy don't reason like dumb person, various community leadership cannot speak for the interest of a ful ethnicity.....
various community leadership only speak for matter and interest concernin communiy they reside.....
we are talkin of a centre leadership, a supreme body of an ethniciy.....

Lol clown you don't see the Arewa groups all over the place doing just that? The Hausa Community does speak for the Hausas but kts not good enough because its too local. Next you'll say the Arrewa groups are too broad. Again why are crying on their behalf like a mumu? You know nobody is barred from creating any such group so why does this matter to you?

Captain8:
debunk what?
you talk nothing......
i gave you organisations like INC, MIYETTI HALA, MACBAN, OHANAEZE, AFENIFERE, etc that are speaking for the it people and you are here mentionin leader of hausa community in a place.....nor be mad u wan mad so?

fulani also have it community leaders in various places...no one is talking of community leadership here..

fulanis has produced 3 president also but big as hausa is has not produced any..and you are talking

See I told you you would shift the goal post. Commuity leaders suddenly don't represent your interests according to ipobs busy bodies. Both serve the same purpose but ones not good enough according to you. Again why are crying on their behalf like a mumu? You know nobody is barred from creating any such group.

Who cares if they haven't produced a president is it a birth right to be elected? Is it because some Igbos are sore about not being elected everyone else should be? Why does it matter especially when you see it does next to nothing.

SmartPolician:
This is a rational explanation, but they need to address the problem through a collaborative effort with the corrupt judiciary..

Its a nonsense excuse. If they're not interested in doing their jobs they should step down. People on death row have option to appeal their sentences and the governors can simply commute sentences instead of doing pointless obstructions. The real solution is to strip this power from them and let trial judges handle it. They have the balls and they passed the sentence to begin with.

kingphilip:
Tl
Only in Nigeria sha that we hear these things.

Exactly Nigeria is home to foolish excuse makers. The system is Nigeria is running is no different from the state of Florida which has one of the highest number of executions each year.

dabeto:
While he's afraid to kill judiciously, the people he governs are quick to kill extrajudicially in the name of religion

Gandolla was salivating at the opportunity to sign the death warrant over blasphemy. He is a religious zealots like the rest of Kano people.

In the words of Jay Z if you really out me on put yourself on then.

Captain8:
ok oo... happy slavery to the hausas

Why are you whining on their behalf like mumu? You weirdos are judt feigning all this faux compassion about people you don't care about. Now that your lies have been debunked you have nothing reasonable to say again.

Truthissupreme:
They have agreed they want to be on their own

But you talk as if secession is an easy piece of pie in this jihad democracy that has defined territories

You don't understand either process so thats why you're whining. Becoming a new state requires concensus from the majority of states. Secession into another state just requires them get their local representatives, state representives, other state taking them and simple majority of Nass to agree.

You people just like using buzz words like Jigad democracy because you're too lazy to actually read and understand the process. You don't want solutions just endless whining. I'll post the proces for you like did for the OP who won't take action on it.

Chapter 1 part 2 section 8-2

An Act of the National Assembly for the purpose of boundary adjustment of any existing State shall only be passed if- 

(a) a request for the boundary adjustment, supported by two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding and the area affected by the boundary adjustment) in each of the following, namely- 

(i) the Senate and the House of Representatives, 

(ii) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and 

(iii) the local government councils in respect of the area. is received by the National Assembly; and 

(b) a proposal for the boundary adjustment is approved by - 

(i) a simple majority of members of each House of the National Assembly, and 

(ii) a simple majority of members of the House of Assembly in respect of the area concerned

Captain8:
miyyetti halla and macban are organisation of fulani tribe alone that speak for fulani interest alone......
are you sure your brain is still working fine? we are talkin about every tribe in nigeria having it own representin organisations with two to three but hausa have no single one and you are here reasonin out of point...

Again I pointed out nobody is complaining and your crying on their behalf like a busy body. Lastly the hausa do have groups representing their interests clown. Lets take Alhaji Liman for example in Ekiti representing the hausa. Now let's see if you're going to move the goal post saying its not good enough or they need more to satisfy you the non hausa.

Head of the Hausa Community in Ekiti State, Alhaji Adamu Liman

BKayy:
This thread is not a resolve but the lamentations of a cornered people who still have a soft spot for their supposed oppressor.

It's hilarious they think these sob stories are going to convince people to add more northern states. After they get it they'll simply vote along the same party lines and the nation will have ti deal with a bunch of new states that can't fund themselves. The solution that should be foisted on them is simply making them secede from their "oppressors" and join their "brothers". No Southern Kaduna state just join your brothers in Plateau. The little map he post on every thread is the blueprint he should follow.

PlatGurGongo:
I started by calling you Southern Kaduna people my brothers and sisters even though I am from Plateau state because in reality, there is absolutely no difference between Plateau and Southern Kaduna people except for imaginary boundaries that were drawn by colonial masters.
Culturally, Linguistically, Ancestrally, Mentally, Socially, Physically and Religiously, the people of Plateau and Southern Kaduna are basically the same.

Written by
(Noah K. Son_Of_The_Plateau)
Plateau Gurara Gongola.

Dearly1:
Lines that's they just rebuilt.
Wahala don set

Yeah the story feels like a repeat. These soft targets are always easy to hit and make the government spend money fixing things instead fighting them.

Lol what's the whining going to do? Tell the people of southern kaduna to secede and join Plateau. There's no need to fund your own destruction if you honestly believe northern part of kaduna is your problem.

Tomek09:
There's no single pure Hausa stock in the North again.

All you will be seeing is Hausa-Fulani mixed blood.

Very very bad and condemnable.

Why is it bad to mix blood?

ZombieNation:
It is in the public domain and they made it clear that Igbos had concentrated everything in Enugu and dominated all aspects of both governance and civil service of the defunct Eastern region.

Before there was an Abuja, there was Enugu.

You will go to Calabar and find an Igbo as a Clark in a Local Govt office. Where Igbos the only educated people?

We're talking about the 1961 plebiscite right? Most of the issues you refer to happened after the coup in 1966. The southern Caneroons left while their northern Muslim neighbors stayed and joined Nigeria. Considering how they're whining about oppression now it might have been better to stay in Nigeria who knows.

BigSarah:
Exactly

Yeah I'm wondering why northern cameroon would join. Am I to assume the same domineering tendency wasn't prevalent in northern Nigeria compared to the old Eastern region.

ZombieNation:
Because of Igbo arrogance and domineering tribalism, western cameroun opted to leave Nigeria all together.

I don't know if that's true but you bring up interesting arguements. I thought they left mainly because of the demographic composition of country in general and assuming they'd have certain rights under federal system practiced there at the time.

ZombieNation:
Oil, Politics and Violence: Nigeria's Military Coup Culture 1966-1976 by Max Siollun

Although the author offers a sympathetic and biased version of the motivation behind the coup and justifies the makeup as being due to the fact that majority of the officers in the army where Igbos, he however holds the view that the coup plotters where deluded Marxists acting out their radicalism.

He also states in this same book how Ibadan was a radicalization hotbed for the likes of Ifenjuna and also how Ojukwu was a card carrying member of the British communist party while in Oxford.

Ok thank you I'll try an see if its available at my local library.

ZombieNation:
Let's start from the very beginning

Anything specific to the topic regarding ojukwu? Yes or no?

ZombieNation:
Rothschild controlled the Soviet govt since the Russian Revolution.


90% of all top Soviet Communist members and Commissars where Jews.

These same Jews who not only controlled the security and power apparatus in the Soviet Union but dominated every aspect of industry accounted for the highest immigrants to Israel when that illegal state was formed in 1948.

Rothschild loves dictatorships. This has been the only way Jews can immerse themselves at the corridor of power.

From ancient Egypt to Persia, Assyria, Rome and in present day PAX America, Jews will do anything to subvert institutions, destroy the powerful middle class and act as whisperers to the King's ear.

Marxism can only thrive under tyranny and dictatorship. And the biggest beneficiary of Marxism is the Bankers who bankrolled them into power.

With COR region out of Eastern Nigeria, there was no way Rothschild would have been able to gain control of the oil there because Igbos were the only ones he radicalized and converted to MARXISM.

Ok that's all interesting but do you have books and primary sources to recommend?

EILTD:
And yet the Soviet did not assist their fellow Marxist during the war. So how come the Soviet assisted the Nigerian government instead of the Igbo Marxist according to Tissia and Bishopmagic her conspiracy theory boyfriend.

Yeah it's a questionable idea to say the least that's why I'm pressing on getting the primary sources or books he read. I'm very interested to read about this topic. It would be a seldom discussed topic if its true that I'd gladly make thread on. I've already done on on why Israel supported biafra them switched alliances during the war. Lol I actually cited the sources of my information incase anyone want to check for themselves.

https://www.nairaland.com/5791936/why-israel-sold-weapons-biafra

ZombieNation:
Victor Rothschild was named as the 5th man in the Cambridge double agent spy rings.

He attended Cambridge as well and it is known that Cambridge was a recruiting ground for communist spies and aggitators since the Russian revolution.

Oxford to a large extent was also known as a radicalizing ground into communist and leftist ideology.

Ojukwu was a card carrying member of the British Communist Party (Oxford Branch) and he was heavily inspired by the likes of Che Guevera and Fidel Castro (hence the beard).

He joined the Nigerian Army as a recruit solely to stage future violent mutiny and a coup.

Zik was also a flaming leftist just as virtually all Igbos who were indoctrinated in the UK under the guise of an education.

Any books on the topic or primary sources u can point to. I'll go fact check the membership later. I just find this hard to believe considering the Soviets didn't assist their fellow Marxist during the war when they did pour resources into other countries in Africa like Angola.