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Igboid:
[s]You are a mumu o!
What is support and what is solidarity?
Was that ever the onus of this thread?

SS states showed support to Rivers, everyone expects SE to follow suit. Then you are here to tell me that SE support is not needed, to which I asked you why then did Rivers need the support of other SS states?

Rather than answer the above question, you turned it into a cyclical argument.


But SE will remain Neutral,
Jump into ocean if you like.[/s]

Mumu you said they were dragged then admitted they did it out their own self interest. My point stands you're not needed stay out the way. The courts will see who has the better legal arguments.

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FakeUnity:
You sound pained, ain't you the buffoon who use to open useless propaganda pro-fulani threads, telling the fulani-run FG administration does not seek to marginalize anyone. Why are you now crying over VAT?

Do you remember you thread on Eastern seaports which you claimed were fully developed and were not impeded by nepotism, sectional and tribalistic policies?
Again why are you crying now for VAT against the fulani/north?

You yorubas never learn, you defend evil when it happens to others, it comes to bite you in the azz, then you start looking for allies after burning bridges supporting the same evil previously.

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Lol yes I did debunk your lies then as I did now. I even posed the port stats that you idiots couldn't refute. Who asked you to join mumu? I already said you weren't needed but you have to feed your ego somehow. Lol you brother debunked himself like a mumu showing the states are joining based on their mutual interest.

Igboid:
They dragged them by appealing to their sense of shared interests.
Common sense.

Blue3k:
Lol this weirdo crying like a wounded animal because you're not needed in the court case. How did rivers and lagos drag the other states clown? Did they threaten to cane the other governors or economic sanctions. They're simply showing solidarity because they feel its in their interest but you're too dense to see the obvious.

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Igboid:
You are a jellyfish or a fish with rotten brains.
I can't be the one interpreting simple English with you.
Other SS states would'nt be talking about VAT if Rivers was not championing it, so Rivers "dragged" the rest of SS in.
Likewise Lagos for SW.

Common sense!

But when you are a witch, you lose your sense at the mention of SE, and you come here talking off tangent.

See. I have indulged your empty skull enough. Move along. Let me reason with reasonable people.

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They were dragged because they were working in their common interest mumu? Lol I'm glad you idiots are dragging the group down. I already told you stay neutral but you can't help but cry about about it like deranged mumu. They wouldn't talk about vat until rivers filed the suit is irrelevant. Its still in their interest as you admitted.

Igboid:
They dragged them by appealing to their sense of shared interests.
Common sense.

Blue3k:
Lol this weirdo crying like a wounded animal because you're not needed in the court case. How did rivers and lagos drag the other states clown? Did they threaten to cane the other governors or economic sanctions. They're simply showing solidarity because they feel its in their interest but you're too dense to see the obvious.

Igboid:
You you silly.
They dragged them by appealing to their sense of shared interests.
Common sense.
I can't be spoon feeding you.

Oh so you admit they joined because it's in there interest like I said in the beginning mumu. Lol you clowns are too stupid for your own good. Appealing to shared interest is called dragging them in your idiotic mind.

Blue3k:
Lol this weirdo crying like a wounded animal because you're not needed in the court case. How did rivers and lagos drag the other states clown? Did they threaten to cane the other governors or economic sanctions. They're simply showing solidarity because they feel its in their interest but you're too dense to see the obvious.

Igboid:
You are silly.
The supreme Court doesn't care who joins, yet Rivers dragged the rest of SS and Lagos dragged the rest of SW into the suit, while peeps expect SE to follow suit? So that you can run along with North vs South Agenda.

Sorry it will not Agend.

SE will remain neutral.
Go hit your face on the wall, no one cares, we maintain neutrality!

Lol tell us how they dragged them mumu, with cane or sanctions. Stay neutral you dont matter so you can stop crying and asking me dumb questions. The court will hear the case regardless. This is a legal battle not a vote.

Igboid:
Lol!
You are a jelly fish.

Who talked about threat here?
Are you okay at all?

Why are you running around like a pained witch because I said that SE will not show support to any of the waring party?
You dragged your dead body here to tell me how SE is not important bla bla bla bla!

How is that any of your concerns how we intend to play our politics on this matter of national importance?

SE is not important, ngwanu leave my thread since we are not important, mba! You are here Crying like a baby bush.

I told you it doesn't matter if SE now you're crying cause you were exposed. The supreme court doesn't care who joins. Why are asking mumu questions like I told you what the SE must do? Lol mumu don't forget to tell us how rivers and lagod forced the other governors to join. Did the cane them or sanction them?

Igboid:
Did take your meds today?
So you mean Rivers State was stupid in dragging other SS states along and Lagos was stupid in dragging other SW along?

If the presence of other SW and SS states other than Lagos and Rivers will not influence court outcome, why then did the governors meet?

Are you saying the Governors are stupid while jellyfish like you are wise?

Ewu Gambia, sit down let me lecture you.
This is not just a legal case, this is a political face-off.
Know this and know peace.
You want to turn it North vs South.
But this is not SE battle, we have nothing to lose or gain in this battle, so we will play the Neutral game.

And should the North need an alliance, we would be willing to offer it, once they are ready to trade on our own terms.
We should be eyeing the return of all Igbo speaking territories carved into SS from Imo and Abia (Egbema and Oyigbo) as a starting point.

This is the type of sophisticated politics SE Should be Looking to play to get even.

Not victim or sympathy politics where by we support ingrates and people who ganged against us in the past to feather their own nests!

Go and hit your head on the wall of you are angry.
I hope we have PAs and Aides to SE governors taking notes here.

Lol this weirdo crying like a wounded animal because you're not needed in the court case. How did rivers and lagos drag the other states clown? Did they threaten to cane the other governors or economic sanctions. They're simply showing solidarity because they feel its in their interest but you're too dense to see the obvious.

Igboid:
Get off my thread if you have nothing to comment.
You don't know more than Wike and Rivers State who went and dragged the entire SS states into the suit.
Neither do you know more than Lagos that has dragged the entire SW into the suit.

And Yes! Should play the Neutral role here and watch things from the sidelines.

That's the most rational thing we should be doing.
There will be no emotional or sympathy support to SW/SS coalition from us.

We are for everyone and for no one!

That's sophisticated politics 101 .

Lol long mumu rants after your foolish logic was exposed. Your presence isn't demanded or needed. Join the FG if you like supreme court will hear the case shortly. You weirdos just like inflating your egos about irrelevant stuff.

Igboid:
Don't be silly.
The VAT is issue is unlike anything in the past.
Nothing is guaranteed here.
If victory is sure for Rivers, they wouldn't be dragging the rest of SS along!
Don't come here talking nonsense.
The Unity of NIGERIA is the foremost principle guiding every aspect of Nigeria.

If such rulling threatens the unity of the country, supreme Court will not give it.

Nothing is guaranteed in life. Nobody was dragged they came on their own based on their own interest in the case. Ok we'll wait for the ruling. Just sit by your presssence is not needed or demanded.

Igboid:
How will Rivers win nah?
Who controls the supreme Court judges?

If the FG see a United South and a possible Political crisis should Rivers lose the case, they will yield.
This is why Rivers went to tag along other SS states.
It's not just a legal battle, it's a political face-off.

SE can offer a soft landing to the North on the political angle, if they give us some concessions of course.

The will win the same way they always do. They've beat the FG multiple times in the supreme court regarding revenue. You're just trying to form important for nothing like you don't understand how courts work. Can you even name all the judges on the supreme court.

Igboid:
Just as BRACED joining the suit makes no difference, Right?

It makes no difference. If Rivers win the get paid regardless if they join the suit. If FG wins the status quo remains regardless if they lifted a finger. Do you need it repeated again?

The SE joining makes no difference in the courts decision so it doesn't matter. The better argument will win the day. It's a court case not a vote.

sylvanus190:
And nobody is saying anything. If it church now some shameless fool will come up with lawsuits.

Are you in support of States funding religious institutions and buildings. You should be aware if the church lawsuit is successful that also bans mosque. The people there have to sue because standing will come up like it did on the Akwa Ibom church lawsuit.

Lol they're begging for seats at the table. After the not too young to run slogans end we get back to reality. It seems people aren't interested in voting for young people just because they're young. You have campaign and win.

Ebi2233:
I just explained it, if they are not Ijaw will they be in Ijaw Youth Council.
Ijaw National Congress, and the Lovers of Ijaw Nation Organization?

Go and claim them physical.

Lol why arguing with these clowns simply hit them with the Constitutional process on adjusting state boundaries. That usually shuts these guys up. Its pretty obvious nobody wants to change the current status quo with they are igbo or Ijaw. The rants start and stop on nairaland because they not interested in doing anything in real life about the supposed issue.

Chapter 1 part 2 section 8

(3) A bill for a Law of a House of Assembly for the purpose of creating a new local government area shall only be passed if -

(a) a request supported by at least two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding the creation of the new local government area) in each of the following, namely -

(i) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and

(ii) the local government councils in respect of the area, is received by the House of Assembly;

(b) a proposal for the creation of the local government area is thereafter approved in a referendum by at least two-thirds majority of the people of the local government area where the demand for the proposed local government area originated;

(c) the result of the referendum is then approved by a simple majority of the members in each local government council in a majority of all the local government councils in the State; and

(d) the result of the referendum is approved by a resolution passed by two-thirds majority of members of the House of Assembly.

(4) A bill for a Law of House of Assembly for the purpose of boundary adjustment of any existing local government area shall only be passed if-

(a) a request for the boundary adjustment is supported by two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding and the area affected by the boundary adjustment) in each of the following, namely -

(i) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and

(ii) the local government council in respect of the area, is received by the House of Assembly; and

(b) a proposal for the boundary adjustment is approved by a simple majority of members of the House of Assembly in respect of the area concerned.

SmartPolician:
I don't understand why you people are picking this woman out as if it is her decision alone.

If she wrote the majority decision that would explain why she gets singled out more. People don't remember the other as well for better or worse. Lol does anyone care to discuss the minority decision.

This why I support the atheist lawsuit against using state fund to build churches. These religious zealots all over the country would rather waste money in these pointless projects. The appeal court in Calabar is taking long to assign a new date for the hearing. I'd like to see this issue get to the Supreme Court by next year.

horsepower102:
Op the fight is already over. Ijaws have been exposed as the fraudulent pseudo ethnicity that they are.

Nothing you say or do at this point will change anything.

Let sleeping dog rest and enjoy your one Nigeria while it last. Your day of reckoning is yet to come.

For now we are satisfied bursting all your shallow lies.

When time come we will point you to your 3 local governments.

Any step outside of that will be dealt with accordingly.

Lol you're here arguing instead of solving the border issue you whining about? Lol everyone here like debating endlessly online because they know people are fine with the status quo in real life. That's why its gets silent when someone like me tells yall the constitutional process to solving this issue.

horsepower102:
I have been exploring google maps and i cannot come to terms with the state lines drawn around the south east.

The state line between:

Imo state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Abia state and rivers state doesn’t make sense.

Ebonyi state and cross river state doesn’t make sense

Arochukwu areas of Abia state and cross river state and Akwa ibom is very questionable.

Anambra north and kogi doesn’t make sense

Enugu and Ebonyi northern areas doesn’t make any sense.

Whomever drew those map after the civil war and during state creation really really really hated igbos and wanted to desperately limit their geography in the future Nigeria. This is why you have igbos clans forcefully carved into neighboring states. This is injustice and pure wickedness

I urge everyone to study those boundaries on google map and tell me if those lines make any sense.

mrvitalis:
The question from the op was clear if there is no election

Lol why are you lying? You didn't even read the OPs question not to speak of the constitution.

Sachidi:
According to the constitution, each aspirant must get a required number of votes in all the 36 states to win the election.

Now let's assume the whole south east decide to sit at home as they have done a couple of times this year.

What will happen?
Will there ever be a new president?

seunmsg:
If INEC makes adequate provision for election in the south east and no single individual came out to vote, zero shall be recorded for all the candidates standing in the election and it shall be collated with the results declared in other parts of the country.

We usually have rerun in cares where voters were prevented from voting and not as a result of voter apathy.

So you see, you can’t stall the election. A winner will still emerge whether you like it or not.

This is same way these clowns thought sitting at home would stall the Amambra election. Seriously who's cares if they vote or not. The process will carry on with sweep being more likely than a run off.

[quote author=mrvitalis post=106382678][/quote]I already told you my opinion on the osun election. Do you no longer have any thing to say on the supposed constitutional crisis or the constitution being blank? After all your reading you have nothing to cite to prove your point.

mrvitalis:
If there is no election in south east , which have a total voters of 9 million plus and the difference between first n second is less than 9 million first can't be declared president simple

Untill those people are given opportunity to decide you can't declare a president

You're regurgitating the same lie over and over it's boring. The government is not stopping the SE from participating in the election maybe ipob terrorists are. If they are sitting at home on their own volition then there's simply going to be run off elections if need be. The constitution states the 3rd and final round goes by a simple majority. Let them sit and home and don't bother them.

134. section 5. In default of a candidate duly elected under subsection (4) of this section, the Independent National Electoral Commission shall, within seven days of the result of the election held under the aforesaid subsection (4), arrange for another election between the two candidates to which the subsection relates and a candidate at such election shall be deemed to have been duly elected to the office of President, if he has a majority of the votes cast at the election.

mrvitalis:
There is no point to argue with people like u ,why were there rerun in osun and Kano elections ?

You don't have a counter arguments hence why you're asking questions. You lied about there would be constitutional crisis not knowing these provisions already exist. There's was no rerun election because the courts declared there previous subsections were met to declare a winner. I personally thought there should been a runoff election osun but I dont sit on any court.

mrvitalis:
Read u won't ...if election don't hold in the east and the difference between the top two is less than voters in south east we have a conditional crisis

mrvitalis:
Depending if difference between first and second position is more than registered voters in the south east

If it's less there can't be a new president you would have a constitutional problem and that's ipob end game ...the constitution is blank on this areas

Lol you've never read the constitution or else you wouldn't make these false statements. I dont get why you guys like making up stories instead of just reading the rules. Nigeria will simply have run off elections if need be. The constitution leaves no room for vacuums and does not compell anyone's participation in the electoral process.

134. 1. A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected, where, there being only two candidates for the election

a.he has the majority of votes cast at the election; and

b. he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.


2. A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election

a.he has the highest number of votes cast at the election; and

b. he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

3. In a default of a candidate duly elected in accordance with subsection (2) of this section their shall be a second election in accordance with subsection (4) of this section at which the only candidate shall be

a. the candidate who scored the highest number of votes at any election held in accordance with the said subsection (2) of this section; and

b. one among the remaining candidates who has a majority of votes in the highest number of States, so however that where there are more than one candidate with majority of votes in the highest number of States, the candidate among them with the highest total of votes cast at the election shall be the second candidate for the election.

4. In default of a candidate duly elected under the foregoing subsections, the Independent National Electoral Commission shall within seven days of the result of the election held under the said subsections, arrange for an election between the two candidates and a candidate at such election shall be deemed elected to the office of President if

a. he has a majority of votes cast at the election; and

b. he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

5. In default of a candidate duly elected under subsection (4) of this section, the Independent National Electoral Commission shall, within seven days of the result of the election held under the aforesaid subsection (4), arrange for another election between the two candidates to which the subsection relates and a candidate at such election shall be deemed to have been duly elected to the office of President, if he has a majority of the votes cast at the election.

Sachidi:
According to the constitution, each aspirant must get a required number of votes in all the 36 states to win the election.

Now let's assume the whole south east decide to sit at home as they have done a couple of times this year.

What will happen?
Will there ever be a new president?

Yes it will go into runoff elections if need be. The constitution doesn't leave room for vacuum.

unbitchable:
Lol. You are here blaming market women, the other day, your president was blaming the middlemen. I don't know why God chose to punish Nigeria with dumb leaders and shallow thinkers.
How would the President regulate food prices?. Does he control food production and chain supply?
Lots of farmers in several IDP Camps in their thousands with no hopes of going back to farm in sight, what is he doing about it?
Borders have been shut for about two years despite food shortages, what is he doing about it?
I thought some paid agents were previously denying the high rates of food.. e go reach everybody.

Notice the fault never lies in their policies. It can never be that under any scenario. Tomorrow they will tell you about their agricultural revolution in rice and flood you with pictures. I wonder why they dont eat all the cheap food being produced now. If you dont laugh you'll cry.

Lol why are Nigerians so anti free market? Seriously do they not learn from their blunders will petroleum and electricity? All the ever do is cause some distortion in the market then get surprised when there's some shortage. If he's really interested in lowering food prices get rid of import ban list of food whichs will let cheap food flow in.


Ps: you guys can contact him if you want. Let him know your thoughts on the bill.

Lol misery likes company as they say.

tensazangetsu20:
Rossiki wetin make you abandon your first username na.

The weirdo has at least 10 accounts by now. If nairaland banshis IP he might be on suicide watch.

Ohanaeze Ndigbo said the only way PDP could reciprocate Ndigbo’s 24-year relentless sacrifice was to willingly give its presidential ticket to them, vowing that the youths would not hesitate to engage in a pitched battle with the party should their demand be rebuffed.

Lol are they going to vote some other party? This would be interesting to see if AGPA or APC who ever will capitalize on that scenario.