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Dtruthspeaker:
There is Only One Reason(s) in Truth, people love the benefits of doing wrong and doing wickedness and evil.

Secondly in the same One Reason, the world hates people who do the right and good thing and they try to kill them and they are 98% successful at killing them.

And thus, everyone who is born real eyesis that when he does good, he is punished badly but there is peace when he behaves badly.

Especially women to their babies and if you watch you would see how pure and good babies and toddlers are exactly as God said "He made all things Good including us".

But after the wickedness of the mum, relatives, neighbours, school and friends have been injected into the child and it takes effect, the good and pure changes into a Satan.

So 98% of people are evil and love evil, which means they Righteousness and must therefore hate God's Laws and must seek something to be wrong with them so that they can say that there is No Righteous for them to Obey!

As if they wanted to obey it before, Exactly as Israel did!

I don't totally agree with you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Lies!

As I said, they seek any excuse to put away Rightness from before them so that they can continue their business of doing wrongs and wickedness as they usually do.



I hope you know that the word "Transgression" which Lawyer Paul used in Law means "Breaking"!



Blah blah blah you are Wrong!

Before freewill was Law and after freewill is still Law.

It is still Law which gave Freewill!

So why do we have Law?

Because it is The Law that created us.

And why do we need Law?

Because, No creation can be sustained without its Creator, Exactly as No Camry or iPhone can do without Mr Toyoda and Apple!



Good you see it, Law Right there at the Beginning!



Sweet!

Are you referring to God as law?

The 10commandments are very popular and well known by Christian's, but only few adhere or obey it. there are various reasons for people not obeying the 10commandments.
One reason is that they claim it was abolished on the cross by the death of Jesus, which ushered us into the dispensation of grace and the Holy spirit.
Some observe 9 and leave out the 4th that commands us to observe the sabbath day.
But are all this reasons legitimate?

First before we dive deeper into this subject we need to understand what the law is and what it stands for.

Sin is defined as the transgression of the LAW.1john3:4, of course the law quoted here is the 10commandments because paul quoted the commandments in Romans7:7(Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.) and Roman's 13:9.

For where their is no law sin is not imputed. Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

As long as sin exist there must be a standard or measure to identify it,and that is the 10commandments.

This brings us to the question of why the law and why we need it.

God has given us (Man and Angels)the privilege or gift of freewill.
Meaning we have the freedom to choose to obey and worship God or not.
Deuteronomy 30:15,
Having this gift of freewill necessitated God to set boundaries or laws to act as a guide to help us make the right choice. Genesis 2:9,Genesis 2:16-17.

Do we still need the law in this Era of grace and Holyspirit?
Yes we still need it , even more.
Remember that Adam and Eve were given command not to eat from a certain tree.
They saw the Face of God, were living in his presence,had everything they could ever want yet they fell, remember also that they sinned against God in an Unfallen state.

Another example is that of Satan(Lucifer) Ezekiel 28:12& 15 and his Demons(fallen Angels) they were all made perfect, stood in the presence of God and had beheld his glory but they still fell into Sin.
Some have argued that since we have been given the Holyspirit hence we do not need the law, this is not true because the Holyspirit does not force our will or Choice. its work is to help us to make the right choice only when we have subjected our will and Choice to the word and commandments of God.
An example is the story of David and his lust torwards Besharba, 2Samuel 11:2

Having the Holy spirit did not stop David from committing murder and Audeltry.
Psalm 51:11.

When we discard the Law or commandments of God we end up establishing our own standard or level of righteousness which is not acceptable to God. Mathews 15:6-9.
Psalms 19:12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

Like we have seen , Standing in the presence of God,seeing the face of God and having the Holy spirit did not stop this great people from (Lucifer to Adam) from falling into sin , becos they failed to understand that to love God and trust him is to obey his commandments and word.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


To the subject of grace.

Grace does not give us license to sin(transgress the law)rather the work of grace is to pardon us when we fall short of the standard set or required by the law.

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

A typical example of grace and law at work is the story of the auldtress woman, John 8:7
When she was brought before Jesus, Jesus showed her grace or mercy which he shows to everyone of us today, rather than condem her to death(wages of Sin is death,Romans 6:23) which she and all of us deserves, Christ forgave her but instructed her not to commit adultery again(not break the 7th commandments).
We can clearly see that while Jesus forgave that woman her Sins, (gave her grace) he in no way encouraged or wants the woman to continue in her Sin.

The truth is that Christ died inorder to free us from the penalty of breaking the law which is death.
His death did not free us from keeping God's commandments.
Christ himself said that he has not come to destroy but to fulfill and keep the law, and that neither a dot or T will ever be changed from the law, Mathews 5:17-19.

In Conclusion.

The idea that as Christian's we are no longer expected to keep the law is unbiblical in fact the Bible calls it lawlessness and anyone not subject to law of God as been an enemy of God.
Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

If God deem it necessary to give Adam and Eve laws to observe in their unfallen state how much more we in our fallen state?
We even need it more to act as a restrain.

When we appreciate and understand the function, beauty and Holiness of God's 10 laws than we will understand that only by keeping it can one become righteous and pleasing to God.


Psalms 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment. 37:31 The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.

Psalms 40:8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.

Psalms 119:1 Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

Psalms 119:150 They draw nigh that follow after mischief: they are far from thy law.

Psalms 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Other Bible verses to consider.
Proverbs 28:9, Isaiah 2:3, Proverbs 28:4,proverbs 7:2, Proverbs 6:23, Proverbs4:2

Thank You for reading.


God bless.

bilulu:
not really sure about ur point but I haven't really seen them jumping over white guys like black girls do. you see Asia with Asia, they hardly talk to other race, you see Indian with their men, I had a conversation with an Indian lady and I was surprised what she told me, but Africans sees dating a white as a form of liberation.

You can google about it.

mofedamijo:
Gotcha, but you made it sound like my post was having a racism undertone.

I totally get your point. You are right, even though racism is real, but they still give black Africans the opportunity to visit and excel in their country. Unfortunately, African countries are getting worse. Just imagine Cape Verde.

Yeah sorry for that.

OtemAtum:
He is not into any religion. He's a free thinker.

Lies.

SouthSouth1914:
As Nigerians we have very small thinking capabilities! What kind of comparison is this? Are we this petty? Always comparing someone’s cash to something, or how he can spend it for future generations without going broke!

It is laughable on this forum! When you go through Quora, sensible discussions are taking place, discussions that can make you think outside the box and make your life meaningful! Why are Nigerians always cash inclined, cars oriented, and petty in nature?

You would have given examples of topics you feel are better.

For me this topic is ok.
Most Nigerians have not heard about Bill Gates or the value of our stock exchange.

This are facts that can help us understand were we are and were we supposed to be.

You think is irrelevant?
Than ask yourself why someone will claim that Nigeria is richer than US.
That's the kind of ignorance this thread intends to cure.

OtemAtum:
I am not an atheist, but the one who has been chosen to make known the imprisonment of Jehovah your god and other religious gods. Jehovah is a very microscopic being in term of power when compared to myself Otem, the god of truth. You can go and find out. Pray let your imprisoned god reveal this truth to you. May the LIGHT OF GOD ALMIGHTY shine upon you to discover your ignorance. Peace.

You are just confused.

OtemAtum:
The gods of science locked Jehovah ,Allah and thousands of religious gods in their spiritual cage. I am on earth to make this known. There's no personality called Satan, it is simply a title given to enemy of humanities and sorry to disappoint you, Jehovah and Allah qualifiy for the title above any other god because of their past wickedness. Read the book of Otem Erectus 227 to see the encagement of your god. Peace

Otem Erectus 227:1

1. Now after this did otem begin to say, Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Mazda and all gods of the books are now encaged in a spiritual vacuum. And those who heard him said, keep quiet, for you are mad.

Who lose your chain?

bilulu:
You avoid Nigerian men abroad, running after white who don't even care a bit. Most Nigerian girls lack self esteem, they feel they have arrived when dating one white guy. It's mainly Nigerian girls that run after white, you hardly see Indians, Chinese and other nationals go after white but black girls, na their target be that.

That's not true Asia girls treat white dudes like gods.
Not like I support the girls point.

mofedamijo:
What are you talking about?? cause clearly, you aint making any sense.

I am talking about the fact that ironically the whites and their countries that blacks claim are racists are the countries that accommodate and are more tolerant to blacks than black nations are to themselves eg. South Africa and other African nations and how they treat their fellow blacks.

If you still don't understand then your problem is getting sense not my writeup.

OtemAtum:
Lies. Bill Gate is not a Christian. And mind you, Christianity is a religion anybody can choose just to belong in a social group. I do go to church too, at least to listen to the lies of our pastors. Yet that doesn't make me less of a god whom I am and Jehovah your god can't do anything about it.

If he is not a Christian what is he?

OtemAtum:
Lies. Bill Gate is not a Christian. And mind you, Christianity is a religion anybody can choose just to belong in a social group. I do go to church too, at least to listen to the lies of our pastors. Yet that doesn't make me less of a god whom I am and Jehovah your god can't do anything about it.

I did not mis words when I called you a clown.
The most important fact is that religious people whether the fake it or not have achieved what Atheists wannable like you can never achieve in 3 life times.

You are no god, just a confused dude.

You do not know how helpless and venerable you are, for you to confront Jehovah.

shegzhkn:
Lol, i tire my brother ooh.

Thing is if you still try to enlighten them a bit they will double down in an attempt to save face.

That's true.
I tire for them and their over bloated ego.

bluefilm:
Nwoke m, mechie onu gi biko.

Who's discouraging who?

Is it because I am speaking out loud what so many people already know but are only saying in their minds?

Nairaland is a 'faceless' forum that's why I'm loudly expressing myself like this.

If you meet me in person in real life, I bet you, you will never ever see me saying anything like this but that doesn't mean I don't have in my mind.

It is what it is.

Even at that, you can still sound polite.

shegzhkn:
Lol, Bill gates is sure an overreach.

Was telling one Buhari troll sometimes ago how incredibly poor his country is , his response was 'Nigeria is richer than USA' , before he could be obliterated his fellow zombie by the monicker ibedun came to his rescue. Lol

Some people choose to be ingnorant.
Nigeria richer than USA.

When only California has GDP equivalent to that of the entire African continent.

OtemAtum:
Hmm.
Some gods are on Earth to make money e.g Bill Gate, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos(Commercial gods).
Some gods are on earth to entertain e.g Messi, Maradona, C. Ronaldo and Pele.
While some gods are on the Earth to make ignorant people look powerful to themselves and their fellow ignorant beings e g Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda and thousands of gods who are now held captive in their spiritual cage.

Which of these categories of gods do you fall into?

Read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY to find out more about the reality of the universe.
https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

Ironically all the gods that make money and entertain are all christains.

The question is what have you clown done?

ScamHunter:
Why won't they be deported? A country that cannot fix anything shouldn't export its ineptitude...fix your country my friends. YOU guys can't even hold simple elections, talk less providing security and power. The black man can't fix himself, yet scream racism.

On point.

That's why there are no first World rated black nation.

mofedamijo:
In as much as Nigeria is having issues.

I DONT GO TO USELESS COUNTRIES. You go to the U.S, U.K...Canada etc without facing problems or deportation. Then one useless Cape Vagabond will now be stressing my life. Even in South Africa, I get LOVE from the Immigration Officers despite our problems.

I CANT WASTE MY MONEY ON A USELESS COUNTRY.

Later you will say Whites are racists.

EmmySparky:
so the guys when they give you gbola for weekends na Japanese ba?

I wonder.

Goldiness:
The way other normal people fall in love alright. No difference, everyone is human. Pray you don't experience what will make you incapacitated for life alright

That's our prayer, that we and our loved ones will never experience such.

bluefilm:
At least, I know that when I married her, she was not physically challenged.

If the accident or disease that traumatized her happens after we are married, then I will accept that as the will of God.

But as for me to use my korokoro eye go select woman wey dey physically challenged say na she go be my wife?

Lai lai... e no fit happen!

If you cannot, stop discouraging others that can, you are sounding like they are outcasts, they are humans time and circumstance happens to all.

Rosskivvyy:
IGBO MATHEMATICS

Igbo number system and Igbo mathematical Science

The existence of number names in the Igbo aboriginal language and culture is evidence that the Igbos have a numeric and mathematical system which is rich and advanced like most other civilized cultures of the West.

The typical number system (although not with numeric symbols) of the Igbo was completed long before her contact with colonialists.

Originally, the Igbo number system is vigesimal rather than decimal [vigesimal is based on 20, while decimal is based on 10] but it could be said that the dominating pressures of the west influenced the adoption of the decimal number system throughout Igboland such that for example, twenty which is “ogu” (original vigesimal number system) is now represented in its decimal format as “iri abuo”.

This circumstance has reconstructed the Igbo number system to the present day base 10 or decimal system.

Furthermore, according to Ogoamaka (2006) the Igbo number system before its contact with the West had names for fraction and other mathematical representation such as mpekele which means fraction; “okara” which means half; otu na uzo ise (ratio).

These also show that the traditional Igbo numerical system as it was then was advanced before colonial interruption.

However, since the number system defines the mathematical culture of any given society, it therefore follows that the attributes of the Igbo numbers in divergent appreciation influenced their use in mathematical principles...


Source - Igbo Numerical System and Mathematics: Towards Harnessing Potential for Business, Governance, Science and Technology

CTD.

Most of this things are basic instincts and would not qualify as empirical science.

Even the early men 3000yrs ago knew how to count, start fire and what have you.

Starcrest1:
We are talking about cyber rendering, this one is talking about talking drum and ekwe. Is this not shameful? The issue at hand is that OP is massaging his own ego instead of telling himself the truth.

Africa civilise, Africa civilise na for mouth o. What happened to the civilisation today or have you seen where people left a better civilisation for a crude one.

Bia OP no vex me o. The means of communication, health care system, technology, education and writing systems, even religion you practice today who gave them to you. Yet you open your rotten mouth and be talking rubbish.

Abeg take several seats.

The truth is that colonization was successful in Africa becos Africans were fade up of their crude backward religion and lifestyles.

China and japan with all their civilisation still depend on the West for innovation and knowledge.

I have never seen any law in physics or chemistry postulated by any Asian or blackman.

It's a Whiteman's World the earlier this dudes acknowledge it and move on to better their lives the better.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Lol.
And here was I thinking you had something really important to say. Communicating with drums
So what happens if ten people communicate at the same time? Na beats by Dre be dat.
Perhaps that's where the British got the word conundrum from
Why don't you drop your smartphone and start moving about with a drum
Some weird stuff you're smoking bro

Lol.....I don tire to laugh.

Rosskivvyy:
I repeat. The ONLY technology in which the Europeans were superior to us was in military hardware.

In every other endeavour we were at par, or superior to them.

And I am talking as late as the 19th century, just before they invaded.

I have the evidence.

This thread is RED HOT AND SMOKING WITH DETAILS.

It is a MONUMENTAL LIE that we were backward, and that they brought us civilization.

A LIE of the first order.

Dreamer.

Rossikki:
You are WRONG and conditioned.

Go and study the history of colonialism and how it destroyed African manufacturing and trade, replacing it with dependency on Europe.

I started a thread the other day titled, ''Nigeria was Technologically Advanced Before European Colonialsm''.

Read the thread. You will learn a lot. Africa was SABOTAGED.

https://www.nairaland.com/6256624/nigeria-technologically-advanced-before-european

When will you stop deluding yourself?

Rossikk:
Bro, it beats me. Sometimes it seems to me like we need the Chinese solution. A brutal dictatorship that will curtail western influence on the people, and get them to believe in their own racial dignity as a people.

Do you know that the average Chinese man would rather wear supposedly 'substandard' shoes made in China than Italian made shoes?

Go to China and see. Chinese-made shoes outsell Italian shoes by a factor of 20 to 1.

In Nigeria, it is the opposite. People will laugh at you and look down on you for wearing 'Aba made' shoes, and would give an arm and a leg to wear Armani shoes.

In fact, Aba shoe manufacturers are forced to inscribe ''Made in Italy'' or ''Made in England'' on their shoes, just to get Nigerians to buy them.

We have issues, man.

I hope the phone you used in typing this trash was made in Aba?
The same China that depends on the West for inventions and knowledge?
You are not serious.

ivolt:
I doubt reorientation would work. The foundation is very faulty as the brainwashing started from childhood. The next generation must be protected from this self-loathing. How can some people lack self-respect and hate themselves so much all because of shiny European objects they see on TV?

Talk is cheap.

On their own would Africans had fared better?

superjab247:
u talk like a creature from the zoo

Baba the white juju is called science while blacks JuJu is based on wickedness, illiteracy and extremism religion.

Get sense.
Does it mean Nigeria Engineers and scientists are practicing white Juju?

Trimjos:
Juju is never used for any good thing, anywhere in the world. Go and read about voodoo, satanism, dark magic or sorcery. It is always for evil.

I Concur.

Rossikki:
AFRICANS CIVILIZED THE WORLD.

AFRICANS INVENTED SPEECH, WRITING, ARCHITECTURE, AND PIONEERED IN ASTRONOMY, SEA TRAVEL, INTERNATIONAL TRADE (WITH THE ASIANS, WHEN THE WHITES WERE STILL CAVE DWELLING SAVAGES)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/ab/a2/02aba255216c73ec1ca386ae6c282959.jpg

Dreamer