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SEGLIZ:
how old were you during the 'HOPE 93' saga and struggle (I come in peace)?
the same they silenced MKO Abiola is about playing out already. Dangote is more of a threat to the west than you and I.
the rate at Dangote and is like are industrialising the nation would cripple the west and it's business interests in Africa (just get that clear). usa can't afford any African nation or nations go the way of Asia or China. as at the time Nigeria established the television and radio station in Africa the entire Asian Continent never a single box set of a chrome or a black and white tv but today we have the 'Asia Tiger' business block, China the lone ranger, etc.
Dangote is our own headache not theirs as such we will deal with him in our own terms not theirs. we can't afford to go the way of 1993, delivering like we did MKO. the gap is still the we are still leaking our wounds.
forget the regional wahala, na our own internal issues be that nobi one the few industrialist wey we get dem for target now. why were they after the owner of airpeace? innoson, proforce are doing us proud let us protect them.

Are you an Illiterate?

Dangote group as a whole does not match Facebook in value how much more when we include google,Apple ,Exxon,HP.

You must be dreaming

darkwan:
oohh yes....it was a black guy that invented peanut butter in america....

many blacks invented alot of stuffs in america,but blacks dont talk about that....

that White Jesus thing is an example....
they cant imagine that blacks can survive without whites....

Gosh see invention peanut butter lol......pathetic .

Really can you survive without them?

Take a look around the World and see if there is anything blacks can claim they have without contributions from Whites

darkwan:
nawa....

its important that people like us say something too,before they end in another slavery that they cant understand....

imagine some of them sayin the black race is cursed....
because you dont understand this game of survival of the fittest doesnt mean you are cursed....

people like us stayed quiet in the past because many of our fellow blacks think very naiv....its very annoyin....
we shouldnt allow that to happen again....

am still the opinion that the smartest of the black race were all shipped off to america into slavery....
africa of today is left with only moroons....

Smartest were shipped really?

The smart ones that commit almost 50% of the crime(homicide ) in US and have one of the worst Education rate.

I will not say blacks are cursed but I would say they are far behind other races in achievements.
Reason for that is IQ.

darkwan:
i know how a black brain like yours works....

its senseless to debate with you and be dragged to your level of white brainwashedness....

all cant win in this game of survival....
some win,others must loss....

You are running becos you know you cannot prove my argument wrong.

When you get to my level of IQ and Self awareness you would realise how timid and backward you have been reasoning all this years.

[quote author=SEGLIZ post=99848954]if we put our home in order we would sure do compete with them.
they can to some extent help us hold our government accountable and if can't in anyway they should outrightly stay off our affairs.
if our corrupt government is volatile and untouchable to for them, then our citizens that are driving the economy shouldn't be their headache. the same way MKO Abiola became a threat to the west with is fame and political influence same is about playing out.
the west is gradually sending the signal, working towards silencing Dangote the way they did MKO Abiola.
usa should let us be, the have more than enough on their plate for a headache to handle than nose around looking whom or nation to destroy. [/quote

Ahhh Na wah!!!! You say you can compete with them?

My question is in which way?

Your hypocrisy is at another level.

You blame them for interfering in your politics and yet you want them to hold your leaders accountable.


How was MKO a threat?

If they want to destroy Dangote they would do it without making noise about it.

Your type us too timid to see fairness in criticism.

darkwan:
its not crap....its your psyche....

whites cant do anything wrong....your mind is blocked to see anything else....

thats why you will fight anybody that dares confront your saviours white people....

for you their words is gospel....it thrills you,it makes you cum....

I fight against lies and false narratives not for whites.

If your argument or claim against me was true, you would have refuted my argument, that shows that you judge by feeling or sentiment not facts, that's why you blame the whites for all your problems when the main culprit is only a mirror away.

darkwan:
look....this your love for whites doesnt impress me....
i dont await much from somebody that bows down to a white jessssus christ....

its in your psyche....

https://ng.usembassy.gov/ustda-provides-training-grant-dangote-oil-refining-company-july-30-2015/


I still have many more links

darkwan:
look....this your love for whites doesnt impress me....
i dont await much from somebody that bows down to a white jessssus christ....

its in your psyche....

I exposed your naivety and all you can say is this crap.
Refute my claim that's what intelligent people would have done.

SEGLIZ:
yes, shut those usa ass leakers up, bunch of fools. when harmless, innocent youth protesting peacefully against government agencies brutality were killed, this same nuisance of the usa looked away till date.
the few amongs us rising to compete with their is now their concern and headache. our legislators earning that is a burden on the economy and citizens isn't of their concern, looted funds being starched by our leaders in their various vaults isn't of concern to them right!?
God punish usa, devil baptise their life.

Is the US that would hold your government accountable for you?
Do you think you can really compete with them?

darkwan:
abegi,park....
are americans the right people to criticize others....??

americans are the worst type of capitalists....
stand between them and their profit and see if they will not kill you....

i dont care about dangote....
but dont forget that whites rather have it that blacks dont produce nothing atall....

Crap, everything to people like you is racism.

Was it not US government that invested money through its ExIm bank in Dangotes refinery to support it.

How come they do not want blacks to produce yet they allow blacks to use their finance and technology?

HacheNoire:
Same US that cannot curb Jeff Bezos and Walton family

Gibberish, bunkum and balderdash.

Same America where 1% call shots for 99%

Next topic please!

It's obvious you do not know how to comprehend passages.

MejiLoyon:
Go read about Rockefeller...
He knows his time is limited

Yeah but standard oil company was broken up into 16 companies by US government anti trust Act.

uunwanaobong3:
Was mr floyd on drug over dose when he died? Yes the medical report say so

Did he refused to enter the police van when he was arrested? Yes the video evidence say so

Is mr floyd the first person to be pin down on the neck? No we have seen many people being subdue that way & is part of the police security code

Is mr floyd dead a racist case? No it is an unfortunate situation which can happen to anyone

Was the officer intended to kill mr floyd? Nobody can say, because you can never judge human mind

Was the officer acting outside the law? No he was acting within the law. He uses the apparatus and technicalities that the law allows. The only problem was that he should have applied human sympathy. But you cant judge the officer because of numerous nightmere experience he may have had in the past

What is floyd offence? Using of counterfit money

Why is the state compensating a criminal?
Why is the officer accused of racism for doing his work?
Why is the government so eager to cönvict him with murder charge?

Leave this fools, this just another Staged false OP by agents of NWO.

The NWO will emerge from pretense that it is fighting for minorities.

ovieigho:
Wow

This guy na sacrificial lamb for his family o

After over 14m$ on gofundme now another 27m$ for the family ...

Rest In Peace angel ! The reason why our lives (blacks) matters

NWO the whole stuff was staged.

Queenlovely:
Africans fear too much,

Check out dangerous things that these oyibo men do,
They climb mountain without rope, swim in crocodile infested river, scale mount Everest, sleep under a snow, play with scorpion.

Africans can never try these things. we want to live long, yet we have nothing to live for. That is why white Entrepreneurs are dare devil's and they rule the world. they take risk and damn the consequences.

Africans are fear fear people. we like playing safe, You buy all the motivational books and yet take action na wahala. Later you blame the author.

Even black Americans cannot give us inspiring Entrepreneurs, but are willing to engage in gun battles selling drugs, All our African graduate cannot bring change to Africa with all the knowledge.

Abeg make una shift. For me I will follow the bible


If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for my sake, you will save it

I concur, I think it has to do with IQ.

sonmvayina:
100% God the father + 100% God the mother(mother earth) = 100% Man.

The jouney of life is that of self discovery..

Do you understand this pix?

You are a joker, which one is God the mother.

XXXXTENTACION:
The only place God exists is in our minds and imaginations but in reality no one has ever seen him.

That's a lie, God exist independent of our existence, minds and imagination.

The evidence is all around you.

sonmvayina:
Well we are getting somewhere, so that means jesus cant be God.

Man is a spiritual being ( God) dwelling inside a physical body made of dust.

Jesus is God's son not God, although he is God by nature as a result of been born by God.

But he is a different person from his father.

Man is not a God neither can man ever be.

sonmvayina:
From where do you think judaism and christianity got their beliefs from?

From paganism..
Read genesis chapters 1 and 2. Understand it very well...

"Let us create man in OUR OWN IMAGE, AFTER OUR LIKENESS"....

Take time to underatand what that means....


Then come back.

How does that mean that Man is god?

God made man in his image that means man has similar features with God.
But no where does it indicate that man became a god.

sonmvayina:
You really dont want to know.....you just looking for what to believe...

Ignorance is a choice in this age and time

Please can you give facts and evidence?
not some false pagan tales

sonmvayina:
God is the universe....God is conciouseness personified.

That is Marduk with the universe as his garments..

That's not true.

Wisdomkosi:
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A lot of people assume that God is just a force or that he cannot be known, some Christians do not understand God's nature and Character.
In this eassy we will explore God's word about himself and we will find out that God is not just a force but a living being.


1*Who is God?
God is a supernatural selfexistant being through whom every existing thing came into being.

2*How old is God? God is infinite he has no beginning or end, He is called the Anicent of days.
Daniel 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

3*What is God's nature? God is a spirit.
God Is Immutable – He Never Changes
“I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.” Malachi 3:6,He is Omnipresent and Omnipotent Rev19:6

4 *How is God's character? God is Love Holy, just and righteous.
Psalms 116:5 Gracious is the LORD, and righteous; yea, our God is merciful.
Isaiah 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

Job 37:23 Touching the Almighty, we cannot find him out: he is excellent in power, and in judgment, and in plenty of justice: he will not afflict.

5*What is God's form?Is God 3 in1, 2 in 1 or multiple ?Ans: God is one.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

6* Is God a force or a living being?Ans:
God is a living being because, A Force do not have emotions or feelings. God has a mind,Romans11:34
God hates, Roman's 9:13, gets angry Exdous 4:14, feels jealous, Exdous34:14, feels happy or pleased hebrews 13:26.

7*What does God look like ?
Daniel 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him:


Revelation 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

God made man in his image that means God has features that man has.
God has hands:psalm 10:12,Ezekiel 8:3,Psalm95:5, Legs :Isaiah 66:1 Head:Daniel 7:10 ,Mouth:
Eyes:Ezekiel 9:10,Fingers plsam8:3,proverbs 8:3,Exdous 32:18.
God has ears: psalms 141:1,
God has a voice :Isaiah 30:30,psalm 81:11,job37:2.
Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a MAN above upon it. 1:27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. 1:28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD.


8*What is the Voice of God like?
Ezekiel 43:2
and behold, the glory of the God of Israel was coming from the way of the east. And His voice was like the sound of many waters; and the earth shone with His glory.

Psalms 18:13 The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire. Psalms 77:18 The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook.

His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many
waters.


9*How big is God?Ans
God is so big that the Heavens cannot contain him.
2 Chronicles 2:6 But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?
What is unique about God?

10*What distinguish God from other gods?
1 Chronicles 16:26 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.
1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.


11*What will happen to other gods?
Jeremiah 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.

12* Who is Jesus, is he God?Ans: Is No.
He is the Son of God, who came to Earth to die for the Sins of the World.


13 *What are the things God hates?Ans:
Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Proverbs 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

14*What are the things God like?
Jeremiah 9:24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.

15* Who can stand before God?Ans:
Psalms 24:3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? 24:4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

16*How is the throne of God described?
Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

Psalms 80:1 Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, thou that leadest Joseph like a flock; thou that dwellest between the cherubims, shine forth. Psalms 99:1 The LORD reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims; let the earth be moved. Isaiah 37:16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.


17*What can God not do? He can not lie.
Titus1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot LIE, promised before the world began;

18* The wisdom of God?
Job 12:12 With the ancient is wisdom; and in length of days understanding.

"Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding." Isaiah 40:28, KJV.

19* Where does God live?Ans God lives
In the Heavens.
1 Kings 8:30 And hearken thou to the supplication of thy servant, and of thy people Israel, when they shall pray toward this place: and hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place: and when thou hearest, forgive.


20* Is the Devil God's equal? The Ans is No.
The Devil is a created being, created by God hence he has a beginning and end.
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

20*What is the evidence for God existing?
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:


Conclusion.

I believe this article has helped us to better understand who God is , God is not a force as some assume, but God is a living being who cares and love his creatures and wants us to have a personal relationship with him.

Thank you and God bless.

Psalms 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 8:6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

gypsey:
I am not an Atheist, I may not believe in your own type of God, doesn't mean i don't believe in other kind of God. I don't why people like you always label anyone who do not believe in your sky God an Atheist. FYI people believe in different kinda Gods. There Hindus, Buddists, muslims, Humanists and all other religions. The problem with you sky God believers is that you believe that your sky God is the only God hence the labelling..

Exactly, you are right. NO ONE can prove that God exist; this is what i have being trying to make you understand. You see? If you had said this from the start of this conversations I would have agreed, but rather you began to give me all kinda vague and ridiculous explainations. God did not write any words, humans did, and these same humans have being trying to convince other humans that God exists because they have written that God exists. Even in this same Bible you claim are words of God did not clearly give a an explainations or proved that God exists. Every explainations the bible gave about God's existence are vague. Hence why christians are fragmented with their churches and different names they give God, names like Jehova, God, Elohim, Jah, that is because they have no idea how God looks or even if God exists.. they go by believe and faiths.

Look! I don't need to read all these your links, I have made numerous practical researches on the Christian and other religions in the last few years. From Rome, Isreal, palestine, Iran, Egypt and Ethiopia when i worked with a charity Org.

My parents are senior church member of the Cherubim and Seraphim church. I have being atteding different kinda churches with my folks from the day i was born until i became grown up enough to follow my own believes and not my parents. My whole family are christians. (Although i call them hyporcrites) i have read some many articles on religion, So i am not gonna waste my time reading more articles.

I would describe myself as a humansits rather than an Atheist. Afterall some people claim to be christians, buddhists, muslems and ETC. Even though they are all descriptions based on faiths and believes not facts.


Ciao!!

Don't missquote me, I never said God cannot be proven to exist , I said Proving him is within the resources available which are his words and creation.

Forget all the labels or branding a humanists is an Atheists.

gypsey:
Rubbish!! You failed to tell me where, when and how God spoke to you.


People like you believe that God exists but have no shred of proofs to back their ridiculous claims up. See how you have being trying so hard to proof the existence of God without much success and then you tried to ridiculously compare my doctor's reports and climate change with God's existence nice try..

I am not an atheist, i don't know what that means. I don't follow your religious believes doesn't make me a bad person or makes you superior to me, better than me or more righteous than i am.

If the existence of God can be so hard and vaguely described like you have being trying to then it is highly likely that God doesn't exist.

God according to people like you can do anything but made it difficult for you people to provide proofs that he exists, God must be hiding from you people.

Can you show me the link to where science agrees with God's existence? And oh! If you people had to rely on science to provide proofs that your God exists then you people are really confused, besides science agreeing is still not proofs that God exists.

Look! Believe what you like, but bear in mind that believes and faith are not factual. You call me ignorant because i don't surscribe to your religious sentiments... well i am happy to be described as such, atleast i am not gullible like you.

Have a good day.

You are more confused than I thought, you claim God does not exist and that you have no religeon and yet you claim you are not an Atheists.

No one can prove that God exist beyond evidence or written word that God himself has given to us.

Is like you asking one to explain things he that happened before he was born, it can never been know except told.

Here you will find answers to your question.


https://www.nairaland.com/3236915/facts-prove-science-supports-bible


https://www.nairaland.com/3342409/scientific-facts-expressed-biblelong-before

https://www.nairaland.com/4746846/lets-find-out-true-religeon

gypsey:
when did God give you the evidence? When did God spoke to you? How and where did he spoke to you?

What an ignorant comparison, So if your doctor runs a tests techonogically and and tells you that the result is typhoid you would doubt it? Even though he has evidence from the test to confirm you have typhoid or covid? very ignorant of you i must say. People like you die everyday in ignorance.

I don't believe in global warming okay! There are no proofs of global warming, the same way there are no proofs of God's exisitence.

However there are proofs of thypoid and covid. People have died of covid and thypoid. It's upto you to believe it or not.

Exactly, faith, faith is not proof, faith doesn't provide factual evidence of God existence. Faith can fail too, just like have faith Arsenal will win, have faith you will go to the moon, have faith you will go to heaven, have faith you will become a billionire, have faith you will pass your exams it is just nonesense!!

The same way i have faith in my shoes, my penis and my Dog. I pity you man!!

The problem is that most of you Atheists claim to know everything when the truth is that they know absolutely nothing.

How can you be an expert in everything?

You have faith in what the doctor told you he saw from your test result even when you where not their to know if he even carried out a test, that is faith.

You have not had experience of the metaphysical does not mean it does not exist, is putting a square plug in a round hole.

In your little World and knowledge you feel their is no God, that assumptions is only true for your limited view, but for those who have higher knowledge and experience we know very well that God exist.

Pity yourself you are floating in ignorance.

Mind you science agrees with God's existence and not the other way round.

gypsey:
No! I didn't read the article. I didn't need to. It wouldn't give me the clear explainations i would understand.

Which heaven exist? The scientists heaven or the religious heaven where the so called God lives?

Hellfire doesn't exist, did scientists also observed that hellfire exists? They should be able to, if they observed heaven's existence. they cannot just observe one and leave the other.


A grave is a grave, a grave is not hellfire, Hellfire cannot exists if it is reserved for when ones dies. Because that would mean that the only way to find out is if ones dies. Which brings me back to my initial demand, show me who has died and been to hell or heaven so i can ask them. if you cannot do that just say, you don't know anyone who has died and came back to show proofs of hell's exstence. I would understand rather than trying to give me a vague explainantions. Be honest to yourself atleast and say you don't know if heaven exists or not..

If people cannot give a clear prove of heaven or hell's existence easily then they shouldn't go about claiming that heaven or hell exists.

Christians believe that their God can do anything, there is nothing God cannot do, so why is God not able to give his worshippers a clear proof of heaven's or hell's existence? Unless God is hiding something. .

God has given us evidence for the existence of Heaven and Hell and that is his word.
The same way you hold and believe your doctor when he says you have typhoid or the same way you believe scientists on global warming and covid that's same way you should have faith in God's word.

Sterope:
Ogbeni speak for yourself

How dare you bring Emmet Till into your madness? Uncle Tom

Clown, Your uncle was a rapist.

If saying the truth means madness so be it.
I rather say the truth than hide my face in shame and lies.

tot:
Such ignorance, chai! I just shake my head.
From your other replies to others that I've read, it's clear your complex is deep seated. I can't waste my time doing back and forth with you. Continue to wallow in your current condition. One day, you will understand.

Did I expose your naivety?

I love staying the truth no matter how sad it may sound.

Mind you I have seen 2 black advocates of BLM who blamed whites for killing blacks, but the irony is that both of them were killed in US by fellow blacks for less than a dollar in separate instances.

Know your enemy.

tot:
Such ignorance or is it brainwashing we should call this, chai! What a pity.

You are naive, how old are you?

No one brainwashed me, am only brave to say the truth you cannot face.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns3zNpp78mM

tot:
Such ignorance or is it brainwashing we should call this, chai! What a pity.

You are naive, how old are you?

No one brainwashed me, am only brave to say the truth you cannot face.

tot:
The interest on African loots in Swiss and European banks contributes to growing their economies, of course that's a big benefit.

Amazing.
It's obvious you know little about Europe and there economy.

Your loot is mini micro of the wealth in Europe.
If you doubt it look at football alone, before you go to other sectors of European Economy.