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bloodofthelamb:
Bro Catholic faithfuls say they honour Mary, not worship. Then again I ask did all the early apostles( Peter, John, Paul, Jude) forgot to honour and venerate her in all their epistle to the Church.

The Holy Spirit who inspired this holy men to write this letters also forgot to include the mother of God( according to Catholics) as the number two mediator.

Was it a mistake? I know is not.

Good points.
It is obvious it was not a mistake becos Paul warned Christains about recieving fake gospel even from angels any doctrine contrary to God's word is false.

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gggg102:
and God choose that sand and dust to give birth to him so that he also would become sand and dust to save the world.

If he didn't, how would God have been made man?

God was called man when he was on earth, and to be a man you have to be born of a woman.

that Mary gave birth to God does not make her superior. she is just a door through which God came into the world. being the mother of God did not make her superior to God.

yes God is uncreated and has existed all eternity but, when he choose to become man, he choose a woman to birth him.

Show where in the bible that Marry was called mother of God?.

luvmijeje:
Enough! What is the church made of? Is it not made up of stones? Is that not graven image. Most of you worship church than God. If you do that, you have no right to call someone else out.

The Church is not made of stones the stone is symbolic

HappyPagan:
Simple algebra.

Let Mary = x
Holy Spirit = y
Jesus = z

Where God is the constant α.

Solution
Based on the universal axiom which states
1 = God = Jesus = Holy Spirt

If x + y = z, and x is the mother of z,
and z = α

x + y = α
Thus, it is proven that x is the mother of α.

It is obvious you failed maths in school.

luvmijeje:
Are you the spokesperson for God? Is God complaining?

Yes God is not happy with such blasphemy.

Gggg102:
is Jesus not addressed as the son of David?
is Jesus not addressed as David's descendant?

yet David calls him Lord, because although he is David's son in the physical realm, he is superior to David in truth and in the spiritual realm.

same with Mary.

except you don't agree that Jesus is God.

OK than show us where David was called father of God.

Gggg102:
if Jesus is God and Mary gave birth to Jesus, then Mary gave birth to God. simple as ABC.

that Mary gave birth to Jesus does not in any way make Mary greater than Jesus. it does not mean Jesus had a beginning as he always existed even before the formation of Mary.

Mary giving birth to Jesus is just like her being a door for Jesus. Jesus did not have a beginning, yet he passed through Mary, he was given birth to by Mary. he decided to be born of a woman. God decided to make himself flesh and dwell among us. to make himself flesh, God decided to be born of a woman. Mary a created being was chosen by God a spirit to give birth to him when he manifested himself as a man. Mary is the mother of God in the physical realm, in the spiritual realm God has no parent. that God decided to come into the world through Mary does not make God inferior nor Mary superior.

Pure word play. None of the apostles ever called Mary mother of God, and we are expected to fellow there steps.

luvmijeje:
If being a son of God is not blasphemy then being a mother of God shouldn't be. Please let's respect people's views about God.

False logic. God is an uncreated spirit being same with Jesus but Mary is nothing more than sand and dust she is a created being with imperfections.

I guess you have not read of Mr Jones the occultic church leader who lead over 600 people to commit suicide in Guyana.thats what happens when people fail to ask the Church leaders questions and verify what they are told through God's word the Bible.

Gggg102:
so what you are saying is that Jesus isn't God?

Jesus by virtue of been the son of God is also God because humans give birth to humans so God's son will also be God in all attributes.

frbona:
what does Luke27:28 say in your bible cause I can't find it in mine
Having said that, the catholic that I am, much as I hate to admit it, believes you right and straight on point. We catholics, just like every other religion that existed at that time needed a goddess figure to cajole and convince the pagans into conversion, hence they began to venerate Mary as the mother of God and gave her the "ever virgin" status. This doctrine doesn't sit well with the rest of Christianity. I've been an altar server for years but every time I knelt or bowed to a statue or crucifix during mass something in me kept telling me this wasn't right and goes against Exodus 20:2 and Deuteronomy 5:6. There's no use arguing with anybody all in the hopes of convincing yourself that you are "honouring" and not worshiping a graven image made of human hands when God had pointed out explicitly how jealous he is when it comes to issues like this (Exodus 20v4&5) (deutronomy 5verses8&9). Its totally wrong and contradicts the scriptures. I remain a catholic only because most churches out there have their own share of polluted doctrines and beliefs. A world going to hell in a handbag. We living by Gods grace and its he alone who sees every man's heart, judges his true intentions and rewards his deeds(Galatians 6v7)

I totally agree with you. most Catholics refuse to see the truth they fellow their bishops like sheep without verifying for themselves.

tartar9:
Is Jesus God in flesh?

If yes,then they are correct in saying Mary is the mother of God-its simple logic.The fault is with xtianity.

Jesus is God's Son not God himself. Mary gave birth to only Jesus not God or even pre+incarnate Jesus.

hopefulLandlord:
She said the God you're talking about is sick

God can never be sick. it is funny how an Aheists will say a God that does not exist is sick i guess the Atheist should accept the fact that he is the one who is sick.

Gracelilian:
You're sick

Who?

frbona:
if you had nothing to say just quit the thread
Wisdom and knowledge ain't for everyone, go back and wallow in your darkness of ignorance

I totally agree with you.

ajahinnousa:
So what do we do? We should fight the Catholics anywhere we see them,mtcheew

I never said we should fight them but it is our duty to correct them.

I personally regard this as the  greatest blasphemy in  Catholism to 'call Mary mother of God'
My question is How can a created woman give birth to an uncreated being, is it possible for flesh and blood to give birth to a spirit ,an eternal God that neither has a beginning or end?

It is  a fact that Mary gave birth to Jesus, the son of God but equating that to mean that she gave birth to God is pure blasphemy.
Many Catholics will argue that Jesus is God hence mary been mother of Jesus is also the mother of God. this is pure word play by Satan to decieve and confuse people.yes he is  God's son that also makes him God becos they are one John10:30,like gives birth to like, God is eternal and divine his son is also eternal and divine God is an uncreated being his son is also an uncreated being.God is a Spirit Jesus  is also a spirit john4:24.
  Mary was the mother of incarnate jesus only, that is the son of God manifested in human flesh and not the son in  his pre-incarneted form which is a spirit.
Jesus was existing even before the foundation of the World was laid  john17:24,John17:5 I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the WORLD WAS. it  was through Jesus that the entire Universe was made including Mary.hebrew1:2,Col1:16.

Jesus  re-emphasied his divinity when he rebuked the Jews who claimed he was too young to have seen Abraham(the father of Israel).
All through the bible no where was Mary called the mother of God if it was acceptable why didn't the bible call David the father of God since Jesus was also called the son of David? rather even David himself  called Jesus Lord luke11:43,matthew 22:41,    Catholics attribute too much praise and worship to Mary this is unbiblical Jesus rebuked and discouraged such idea when he was on earth  Luke8:21,Luke2:48 and Luke27:28
All this bible verses show us  that to Worship, pray or exalt Mary to godlike status was forbidden.
Even Mary called Jesus Lord, she is not part of our Salvation but herself requires the blood of Jesus to save her.

Luke 1:38 “And Mary said, “Behold, I am the
servant of the Lord; let it be to me according
to your word.” And the angel departed from
her.”

In Conclusion.
To call Mary mother of God is pure blasphemy it is a plot by Satan to protary God as a mere mortal or created being. God is a spirit an uncreated being who inhabits time & eternity he was existing before the creation of the World and Mary and will still be there when both pass away.
Their is no moral,scriptural,or logical reason to call Mary the Mother of God.
I urge Catholics to desists from this great blasphemy for God will judge every work and vain word we say.Eccl.12:14,Eccl.3:17

Thanks

iluvpomo:
yet you cannot even dispute a single fact I posted .... #emptyCoconut

Clown. why will i debate with you?that will mean me falling to your level of intellect i can't take that fall it is too high.

nigerialog:
Exactly! They should be allowed (given enough time and space) to make that decision. They should not be manipulated in any way, else ...

Who is manipulating women?

muzeze77:
Chelsea played well, they can win in camp nou; Kante contained messi

Am not sure you watched the ball.

iluvpomo:
To be the best, you have to achieve the same greatness for club and country. Messi has not even won Copa America for Argentina senior national team ...... what a shame!
He’s the best club soccer player but a failure for senior national team judging him as a player with very high standards.

Shithole comment

nigerialog:
The article blames men because in our culture the men do the proposing.
Women only do the accepting...

Agreed but Women should make the decision of no marriage or dating if they are not attracted to the Man.

GooseBaba:
Clearly you're a shallow thinker....just waka enter bush with your inferiority complex.

Usual response.

hopefulLandlord:
"has a date she was born" talk of circular reasoning

all you've done so far is misrepresent the big bang theory to fit the cosmological argument

"The universe began to exist" has never been proven by anybody

in your previous post here you've admitted the universe did exist in another form before the big bang

that's interesting, you've gotten the knowledge science can prove/disprove hahaha and that knowledge is the knowledge of the process, you happen to know the process and you found god, lol classic god of the gaps, seems we've gotten to the end of it, where you see god while I see ignorance

How is the Universe occuring by Chance Science , can it be proved or quantified or examined?

You atheist take a leap of faith which is far bigger than those of christians in believing that the whole universe happened by chance.

GooseBaba:
If we must say there is a creator of this majestic DNA. Then each one of us must agree that the creator is the God's of our ancestors. Not the God of other people's ancestors.

So yes! My God created DNA.

Meanwhile, Blueagent...dem swear for you. I'm an Urhobo man. Who bask in his ancestral teachings.

Warn ya sef. Don't tag me with atheistic thread. Besides, I prefer atheist than foreign diety worshipping theist.

You hate foreign diety but you like the technology , Civilization and Science of foreign people and their diety that brought you those technology.

jigga40:
God told me you are a big THIEF!!! Ole jati jati.....! Too much emphasis on this tithe ish shows that all you care about is money! OLE man.

Clown. dumbest post ever.

kadas01:
Pastor Adeboye and his criminally minded cohorts are blatant liars!

GOD ALMIGHTY does NOT need a dime from any human being!

If you serve HIM right/genuinely as your CREATOR, you would definitely inherit a beautiful part of HIS Kingdom! #fact!

Shalom!

Clown. i guess you have not read this Bible verse.

(NIV)
23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and
Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of
your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have
neglected the more important matters of the law
—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should
have practiced the latter, without neglecting the
former.

jigga40:
God told me you are a big THIEF!!! Ole jati jati.....! Too much emphasis on this tithe ish shows that all you care about is money! OLE man.

Clown. dumbest post ever.

Goshen360:
God is THE ONLY BOSS that will fire you but still let you keep working. If you don't believe this ask Saul. He was anointed only for 2 years but was a king for 40 years. Meaning, he was only sitting king for 38 years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqcK-4cVaaE

Somebody help me pass this message to Pastor Adeboye.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQjJ_uq6hM

Pastor Adeboye used to be a MOG I respect growing up as a young Christian but on this topic, I lost respect for him especially when he says things not a sound doctrine. If every Christian claim God told me without us having a way to verify in the word, do you know how many issues we'll have in the body of Christ today?

Pastor Adeboye should swallow his pride and accept biblical truth and sound Christian doctrines.

New Living Translation
All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer.
Acts 2vs42

Tithe wasn't taught by the Apostles to the early church and not everything written in the bible is for Christians

Your ingnorance is Epic.


I guess this Bible verse does not belong to your Bible.


"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious
law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you
are careful to tithe even the tiniest income
from your herb gardens, but you ignore the
more important aspects of the law--justice,
mercy, and faith. YOU SHOULD TITHE, YES, but
do not neglect the more important things.
Matthew 23:23 (NLT)
All these Hypocrites that call themselves
Christians preaching and propagating that
Jesus never preach tithing....the above
scripture was spoken by Jesus Himself.

Horlufemi

Excellent work. this proves that Atheists are sadists.

dalaman:
Am NOT an evolutionist. Seems you have no evidence for all the nonsense you always spew.

Laughable, so if you are not evolutionist what are you? I guess a bigbanger.

CAPSLOCKED:

NOT EVERY CHRISTIAN IS A DOCTOR, A SCIENTIST, A BIOLOGIST, AN ENGINEER, OR AN INVENTOR.

YOU CAN SAY THE SAME ABOUT ATHEISTS.

ONE DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT EVOLUTION TO BE VERY SURE THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE GOD DOESN'T EXIST.

Laughable. so your belief that God does not exist is mere assumption?

dalaman:
Show me hard evidence that they are in heaven and the killer is in hell. One fact we know is that all of them are dead. That is what we know for sure. Heaven and hell remains your own superstitious beliefs. Your points are fictional and mythical.

When you show us evidence of past and present Evoillusion we will show you where Hell is.