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BabaIbo:
You are wrong and the user you quoted is right.
Russia do more advert than US, you can do research on country with highest military fare/game etc.
And again, you know nothing about Korean war, when the war broke out, the population of the two forces (according to documentaries on the war) are as follow, NK force was numbered around 200k + tanks including Soviet union and Chinese full support
while
on the other side, SK had about 98k, no tank, with around 200 to 300 only as support(they were not prepared at first) but that turned around with time, NK already had tanks and other sophisticated weapons while SK don't have it, but that changed when Us entered the fight. You need someone to enlighten you on the heavy bombing that was done on NK after US entered the game.
Stop saying what you don't know about Korean War.

When it comes to technology, aside from USA, there are other countries better in technology than Russia, if you doubt this fact, you can research more on it.
You need someone to enlighten you about the cold war on USSR(that led to the breaking apart of USSR), that alone is enough reason.
I can go on and on to give you enough reasons to show that US is more powerful than Russia

True.

Fawklicant:
The same noise was made during Vietnam war, same during invasion of somalia. Same mistake Russia made in Afghanistan. With all their tech prowess and maneuvers, what happened?
Naturally, israel and Palestine no be mates, but what happened over a decade ago? We just pray that such a day never surfaces when Russia and US or China etc will have to square it off. It will be mutually assured destruction.
With all the Nukes in stock all around the world, nobody is a write off.

Did US lose any of this War's you mentioned?

Akoja360:
while the black man is still believing in hocus pocus bullshhit such as religion ,money ritual and witches the rest of the world is making giant leaps to into the future leaving africa in an acient dust

Stop decieving yourself it has nothing to do with religeon.
I smell an Atheists.

Fawklicant:
Never underestimate anybody based on their size or perceived deficiency in capabilities. US was thoroughly embarrassed in Vietnam and Japan and even somalia. Russia was thoroughly frustrated in Afghanistan. Israel was embarrassed by Palestine just a few years ago. Warfare doesn't necessarily mean you go about bombing civilians, there are rules of engagement.
Russia doesn't make noise. They don't feel the need to, but when they make threats, everybody pays attention.
Same with China who is more interested in dominating the world through a more subtle means...economy.

US issues threats Everytime and the problem with that is that at some point, someone is bound to dare you and call your bluff and when there is a semblance of balance of power, standoffs and threats turn to negotiations.

If anything history has taught us that not all wars are won on the strength of a military might. Many are won when there's singleness of purpose and tactical maneuvers.

Story.

Johnboom:
Keep on fooling yourself. Even ordinary Israel shot down Russia aircraft.

Abeg tell this clowns.
The same Russia that US helped frim been destoryed by German and Italy in 2nd World war.

dangoteinlaw:
u really believe that? Do more research and enlighten urself , Russia is no where close to USA military wise, even with the much Rissia has got their citizens are almost dieing from hunger due to bankruptcy. Only the USA has successfully spent high budgets on military and still afford to feed other nations plus guarantee their citizens A1 standard of living. ..I could go on bro, 4get USA ,no contests, they will remain on top for a long while

Abeg tell them. most of US military hardware are not made public eg the Invisible off radar jets.

Krak:
Submarine is never and can never be ordinary. Especially nuclear-powered submarines.

Do you know how much it cost to build and maintain just one?

Like 25% of Nigeria's yearly budget.

petsam11:
I don't think so bro! The difference between the US and Russia is that Russia is just into unnecessary exhibitions just to prove to the US that they are strong while the US does not need to prove anything... it's like a case of Messi (as US) and Ronaldo (as Russia).
Messi has nothing to prove to the world (because he is a raw talent, excessive training or not)) before u know that he is the world best while Ronaldo has a lot to prove (even by excessive trainings and drills) so that the world "can see him" as the world best which in the depth of his mind, he knows Messi is his Boss.

So America doesn't need to prove nothing to the world because the world knows that they (US) are the Real World Power but Russia has a lot to prove to the world so as to "see her" as the world power...

I concur 1000%
i owe you beer. i agree with your two examples Messi vs Ronaldo and US vs Russia.

Idrismusty97:
Nothing special here, Ice is more vulnerable from below. Because you are breaking from the softer tissue up to the harder part which is just a few millimeter of surface linen.

does ice form in water from the surface or from below?

obafemee80:
That's why many people are running into Politics

True.

Our leaders and fellowers lack the IQ to create wealth.
You can imagine Texas alone has over 24 Oil refineries all owned and started by White entreprenuers some over 100yrs ago

In US an western world people don't need to join politics inorder to be wealth they use their brain.

Welrez:
Well, Russia may be up there, but they are not really as good as the US.

Dreamer you think acting and talking tough means strenght?
Can Russia even finance their war sustainably with there Unstable economy?

Proudlyngwa:
waste of money

How is it a waste?
Do you know the thousands of jobs that was created directly and indirectly during the construction of that submarine or the thousands of jobs created for those who work on it daily
plus contractors and vendors.


Blackman and his mediocre thinking

solite3:
yes Jesus was less than his father as a man.
note Jesus is both God and man
John 1:1 states that Jesus was God
from the Bible we learnt that God cannot change
when Jesus became man he became part of creation himself but at the same thing outside creation, he became a bridge.
the divine nature of Christ is distinct from his humanity, they are separate but not mixed.
rcc claim that Mary was both the mother of the humanity of Christ and his divinity is false.

the bible is filled with the differences between Christ as a man and Christ as God.
Christ as a man had a beginning, he had a mother, did not even know the time of his coming, expressed fear of death lived like a normal human except he had no sin.
christ as God had no beginning or ending nor mother or father, cannot die is beyond time and space.

people who teach that mary is the mother of God are denying the distinction of the humanity of christ from his divinity by lumping it to together.
the hypostatic union teaches that christ divinity and his humanity are separate and distinct but united in one person.

what this means is that although they are different but christ function as man and God at this same time.
for example when the man christ was a baby, God was not a baby.
when christ slept
yet God does not slumber or sleep.

Even before his incarnation as a man Jesus was not equal with his father.
In that verse he said he was going to the father(going back to Heaven) and that his father was greater than him. which means even in Heaven which Jesus was refering to that he was going to.


Have you asked yourself why the Bible calls Jesus the begotten son of God?
can God the father be begotten and if from who?

Pls read this bible verse from the beginning to the end and find out who wrote it and what he meant.
Proverbs 8:1-end.

Ubenedictus:
and as usual you guys are just dumb when it comes to interpreting scripture and hypocritical when it comes to using common sense.


The same Bible that says call no one father has several passages on fathers, both biological and spiritual, the same hypocrites who say call no one father call their pastors daddy.

And then go off when you call Mary exactly what she is

So the scripture told us that we should call Mary Mother of God?

honestivo:
Don't be surprise that was built by a black man ,stop being inferior

Come on close your mouth which blackman? is it
the ones that destoryed Detriot,Chicago,Salem,Baltimore and every city in US that has majority black.

honestivo:
Don't be surprise that was built by a black man ,stop being inferior

Come close your mouth which blackman? is it
the ones that destoryed Detriot,Chicago,Salem,Baltimore and every city in US that has majority black.

UbiPetrus:
And when you finally ran of ideas about what to say to defend your poo, you resorted to ad-hominems.
Don't be in a hurry to change gear.
We are still talking about the motherhood of Mary and not who should and shouldn't be called Father.

You may choose to make a thread on that by the way. This breed of Catholics will still come over and school you in your own show.

I laugh at you, You and your Church invent false teachings that defy Bible doctrine and logic and you are boosting of your ingnorance.

I have written more articles about your Church and its false doctrines that i will post soon so just relax and ask God to open your eyes and brain.

DeSepiero:
Christianity is the one true religion because some bible passages corroborate scientific facts?

No, beyond that Christainity matches reality,logic and evidence which we can all see.

For example how do you explain a Mad man been healed of Insanity or someone who was diagonized HIV or SS genotype turning negative or to AA, only a miracle can be the logical answer.

*Self evidence & Revelation. The bible the inspired word of God reveals several scientific facts about the Universe thousands of years before science could have known them eg water cycle,Job 36:27-28, expanding Universe, Psalms 104:2 ,Earth suspended in space,Job 26:7, Shape of the Earth, Isaiah 40:22
Wind cycles,Ecclesiastes 1:6,  genetics, Genesis 30 ,Laws of the Universe, Size of the Universe Jeremiah 31:37, Number of Stars, Jeremiah 33:22, Space travel.
The bible also fortells of future events thousands of years before they were fufilled it also declear how the Universe was made. All through the Bible the character of God is been revealed as merciful,kind,Righteous and just.
Isaiah 46:10   Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

*Authority: God  through the Bible declears himself as the sole creator and sustainer of the Universe and commands his creatures to Worship and adore him.
Exodus 34:14   For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
1 Chronicles 16:26   For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.   Isaiah 45:12   I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
1 Chronicles 16:26   For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.   Isaiah 45:18   For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.



*Consistent & verifiable:The bible writings and record are consistent (every part of the bible agrees with each other)The bible is the only book that provides answers to man's problem & questions, many stories events and personalities in the bible have been verified and confirmed to have happened or existed by Archaeologists and historians

In Conclusion
After considering the facts with the physical and scientific evidence available it becomes clear that Christainity is the only religeon that meets and fufills all the points we raised only christainity has absolute truth in it, while islam and Quran share certain Christain views, it is known to have many inconsistent and unproven facts.
God is the only true God who alone made the Heavens and Earth every other gods and their religeons are nothing but myths and human inventions.

A lot people ask which religeon is the true one or do all religeons lead to the same God? how do we know which religeon is the true religeon? to answer this questions we will examine the beliefs & Views of 6 of the World largest religeons we then apply Logic/reasoning and physical and scientific evidence to know which of the religeons has the most truth and its Diety is the true one.


6*Buddhism:Is the 6th largest religeon with about 376million adherents. Buddhism teaches that the World was not created once upon a time but that the World has been created millions of times every seconds and will continue to do so by itself until it breaks away by itself  They believe the begining of the World & life is inconceviable. questions about the eternity and infinity of the Universe are counted as unaswerable questions which the Buddha see as unproductive and useless for one to acheive enlightement. Buddha's believe in re-incarnation.

5*Chinese Traditional Religeon or Taoism(394million) : This is the World 5th largest religeon it has its origin in China. In Taoism   creation account , in the begining of time there was only chaos, the Heavens mixed with the Earth organization in the Universe was sleeping in the chaos in the form of an egg. after about 18000yrs of incubation the egg hatched into pure elements called Heavens  or Yang and less pure element  called the Earth or Yin from the Yang & Yin a great gaint Pan Ku was born who with the assistance of a Phoenix ,Tortoise,Dragon & Unicorn shaped the World the way we know today.

4*Hinduism:Hinduism is the World 3rd largest religeon with 900million adherents  in Hinduism there are no clear or consistent account of the origin of the life or the Universe some creation theories  are life coming from the cracking of an enormous egg  which is the life from which the Universe is born to accounts  like Brahman seperating a flower into 3parts Heavens,Earth & Sky,In the hymn of creation from Rig Veda it is concluded that nobody knows how the Universe came into being and even questions weather Brahma knows.

3*Non-religeous group(secular,Agnostic,Atheist): This is the 3rd largest group With about 1.1billion adherents  this group lacks a founder,religeous laws,or written scriptures  no Diety is worshipped or recognised, non-religeous people support liberal views and believe that Man can over his challenges.  non-religeous adherents believe the Universe came into existence through bigbang,  while life originated through several natural process that later evolued to Humans  they believe that Matter and Universe were always existing thus they are eternal.

2* Islam: is the World 2nd largest religeon with over 1.2billion adherents  Islam was founded by prophet Muhammad.Islam is a monotheistic religeon, in Islam it is believed that the Universe was created by Allah it is also believed that Prophet Muhammed  was influnced by Jews living in Arabia, this had much impact on his writings and stories in Quran, hence the source of some similarities with Bible stories.

1*Christainity:Is the World largest religeon with over 2.2billion adherents Christain beliefs and doctrine are based on the inspired word of God called the Bible  Christains believe that  Jesus is Son of God who died as a sacrifice for the sins of humanity,  christains believe that God created the Universe by his power & wisdom & that Humans were made by God in his image.  evil & suffering is seen as the consquences of sin. Adherents  believe that God who is  love,mercifull & just will destory evil & restore the Universe to one of  peace & love


          Points to consider.
We will now consider some established facts and evidence.
1.Matter & Universe
2.Origin of Life
3. Law & Order
4.  Self Evidence and revelation
5. Authority

1. Scientists have discovered that our Universe has a begining, this implies  that it was caused to exist and it is not eternal.
This raises the question of weather mind (conscouisness) proceeded matter or matter proceed the mind.
Applying logic will tell us that mind proceeded matter for nothing can come from nothing this point disqualifies the religeons & dieties of Taoism,Hinduism and non-religeous group as the true religeon or god since  they hold the view that matter proceeds mind and the Universe and matter is eternal.

2.Origin of Life:  The law of biogenesis states that life can only come from an existing life.
Since mind proceeds matter the true diety must be self existent thus it does not require a source of life. This disqualifies the gods of Taoism,hinduism,buddhism & non-religeous religeons as the true god since they were either born (have a beginning) or got life from matter(non-living thing)
This is illogical and Scienctifically impossible.

3.Law & Order:Scientist have observed that the Universe is controlled by certain set laws e.g the law of gravity,force, energy Atomicity, laws of space,e.t.c  and constants that make life possible  this is called The Anthropic Principle by Scientists. Law & order can only be insistuted by a mind or conscouisness who is the lawgiver, be it moral laws or natural laws This point disqualifies the gods of Taoism,budahism,hindisum since they have no laws or written scriptures it also disqualifies the non-religeous group as the true religeon  as they lack written scriptures,a founder(mind or law giver) or established laws & Norms matter cannot insistute laws & order.

4.Self evidence & revelation:
A major way to know and understand the real diety is by self evidence or revelations given to us  by the diety, in Hinduism there is no clear or consistent account of the existence of a diety,  in Taoism & Shinto there are no inspired written scriptures by the diety identifying himself and revealing his Character, nature,Power and its purpose for mankind
This point also disqualifies non-religeous group as natural processes reveal/ show evidence of design rather than random events.

5.Authority: As a supreme being a true diety would excerise its authorithes over the entire Universe and its inhabitant,the true god will claim ownership, issue commands and decree as well as pass judgements.
In Shinto & Taoism the diety Pan ku after 18000yrs of creating and building the World died and their are no written scriptures that express the authority and power of the diety Pan Kung and Shinto this point also disqulifies the gods of buddahism & hinduism.

Another argument against buddhism & hinduism is that  the Universe undergoing an infinite series of births and death  is impossible as each cycle must have less energy avialable than the last and if it has been happening for eternity everything and person would have been dead.




Examining the Christain Diety(God)

*Matter & Universe: Since the Universe have been proven to have a begining then it must have been started by an uncaused mind or being
Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth ETERNITY, whose name is Holy.
Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Secondly We all  agree that nothing can come from nothing then matter must have been made from invisible things and not from things seen The bible God gives us the answer. Genesis  1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Revelation 22:13   I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Romans 1:20   For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
1 Timothy 1:17   Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

*Law & Order:this requires a law giver the Christain God gives us the answer.
Isaiah 33:22   For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.
In Jeremiah 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have
not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in
the earth? and also in Jeremiah 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars
for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name.

*Origin of Life:The law of biogenesis has never been disproved that means  life must have come from an uncaused life
The Christain diety reveals itself as the only  being who has life inherently. John 1:4   In him was life; and the life was the light of men.  John 5:26   For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

clefstone:
OP, unfortunately you do not understand the basics of the Christian faith. That God allowed his creation to birth him is the great mystery of our faith. It is one way God shows us His love for us. That Mary is the mother of God does not diminish God but exhults Him.

It's obvious you are a member of one of these one man Church without depth.

Keep decieving yourself.

Your Church has depth in false teachings and occultism.

Jesus told us not to call any man on Earth Father.

Matthew 23:9
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

because it is offensive to God then how much more calling a woman or anybody the mother of God.

budaatum:
There's threads where this issue is flogged continously so I will limit myself to pointing out the absurdity of an Almighty God, the creator of heaven and earth and all that's in between, the know it all before it even began, allowing itself to be strung up by its creation between two pieces of wood!

I really would have thought the flood, salt and burn your ass God, would have gone about things different to how Jesus is written to have done. Perhaps God evolved.


Just as a surrogate mother is not the mother? She surrogated for God! Its sheer patriarchalism not to consider her worthy of greater veneration than "blessed", in my opinion. The same is done to those we wish to not recognise when we belittle their achievements.

CRAP

solite3:
deceive me? far from it yes Jesus is not God the Father but Jesus is equally God. John1:1

Yes ,but Jesus himself stated that his father is greater than him.
John 14:28 “You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.”

lacum:
Matthew begins by calling Jesus the son of David, indicating his royal origin, and also son of Abraham, indicating that he was an Israelite; both are stock phrases, in which son means descendant, calling to mind the promises God made to David and to Abraham.
the above is for solite. It was not David alone but also Abraham but that should not be understood that son means any other thing but descendant. now in the case of Mary and God the Father son can be understood to be not just a descendant but of having father and son and mother and son relationship because Jesus who is also God got his humanity from Mary and his divinity from God and Mary was privileged to give birth to this exceptional being which have never happened before and will not happen again. Mary is the mother of God but we don't understand it in the sense that she is the mother of the Second person of the Trinity but God made man

Crap.

solite3:
the humanity of Christie started from Mary's womb but his divinity predates her remember that the two nature's of Jesus are not mixed but only unified thus it makes sense to identify Mary as the mother of christ our Lord which even Elisabeth attested to than address her as the mother of God.
hope you know that christ humanity is different from his divine nature?
as a man he was a descendant of David born by a virgin named Mary, he lived as any other man, bled and died but yet without sin.
but as God he neither had beginning or ending, neither had any descendant or mother, cannot die bit eternally the blessed creator.
so Mary was never the mother of God.
shallom

Stop allowing this people to confuse you.
Jesus is not the same person as God.
Jesus is the son, while his father is God.
2 different beings but united in one accord.

March 16, 2011
"And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my
beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Matthew 3:17, KJV
"And there came a voice from heaven, saying,
Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well
pleased."
Mark 1:11, KJV
"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape
like a dove upon him, and a voice came from
heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in
thee I am well pleased."
Luke 3:22, KJV
"While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud
overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of
the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in
whom I am well pleased; hear ye him."
Matthew 17:5, KJV
"And there was a cloud that overshadowed them:
and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is
my beloved Son: hear him."
Mark 9:7, KJV
"And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying,
This is my beloved Son: hear him."
Luke 9:35, KJV
"For he received from God the Father honour and
glory, when there came such a voice to him from
the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in
whom I am well pleased."
2 Peter 1:17, KJV
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his
only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in
him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to
condemn the world; but that the world through
him might be saved. He that believeth on him is
not condemned: but he that believeth not is
condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only begotten Son of
God."
John 3:16-18, KJV
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is
coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the
voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall
live."
John 5:25, KJV
"Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified,
and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest;
because I said, I am the Son of God?"
John 10:36, KJV
"When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is
not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the
Son of God might be glorified thereby."
John 11:4, KJV
"And the angel answered and said unto her, The
Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power
of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore
also that holy thing which shall be born of thee
shall be called the Son of God."
Luke 1:35, KJV
"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him,
and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh
away the sin of the world . . . And I saw, and bare
record that this is the Son of God . . . And looking
upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the
Lamb of God!"
John 1:29, 34, 36, KJV
". . . Of a truth thou art the Son of God."
Matthew 14:33b, KJV
". . . Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living
God. And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
Father which is in heaven."
Matthew 16:16b-17, KJV
"The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the
Son of God;"
Mark 1:1, KJV
"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son
of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was
the son of God."
Luke 3:38, KJV
". . . Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the
King of Israel."
John 1:49b, KJV
". . . Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ,
the Son of God, which should come into the
world."
John 11:27b, KJV
"But these are written, that ye might believe that
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that
believing ye might have life through his name."
John 20:31, KJV
"Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of
God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God."
1 John 4:15, KJV
"Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that
believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? . . . He that
believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in
himself: he that believeth not God hath made him
a liar; because he believeth not the record that
God gave of his Son . . . He that hath the Son hath
life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not
life. These things have I written unto you that
believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye
may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye
may believe on the name of the Son of God . . .
And we know that the Son of God is come, and
hath given us an understanding, that we may
know him that is true, and we are in him that is
true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true
God, and eternal life."
1 John 5:5, 10, 12-13, 20, KJV
"Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and
when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost
thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and
said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on
him? And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both
seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. And
he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him."
John 9:35-38, KJV
"Now when the centurion, and they that were with
him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and
those things that were done, they feared greatly,
saying, Truly this was the Son of God."
Matthew 27:54, KJV
"And when the centurion, which stood over
against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave
up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son
of God."
Mark 15:39, KJV
". . . I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
Acts 8:37b, KJV
"And straightway he preached Christ in the
synagogues, that he is the Son of God."
Acts 9:20, KJV
"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which
was made of the seed of David according to the
flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with
power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the
resurrection from the dead:"
Romans 1:3-4, KJV
"For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was
preached among you by us, even by me and
Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but
in him was yea."
2 Corinthians 1:19, KJV
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet
not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I
now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son
of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."
Galatians 2:20, KJV
"Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of
the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect
man, unto the measure of the stature of the
fulness of Christ:"
Ephesians 4:13, KJV
"Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that
is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,
let us hold fast our profession."
Hebrews 4:14, KJV
"If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto
repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the
Son of God afresh, and put him to an open
shame."
Hebrews 6:6, KJV
"Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye,
shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden
under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the
blood of the covenant, wherewith he was
sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done
despite unto the Spirit of grace?"
Hebrews 10:29, KJV
"And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have
we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art
thou come hither to torment us before the time?"
Matthew 8:29, KJV
"And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell
down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the
Son of God."
Mark 3:11, KJV
"And devils also came out of many, crying out,
and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And
he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for
they knew that he was Christ."
Luke 4:41, KJV
"When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down
before him, and with a loud voice said, What
have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God
most high? I beseech thee, torment me not."
Luke 8:28, KJV

solite3:
unfortunately God is not just a title.your analogy does not work,
you got that wrong as usual, Jesus didn't become God at conception but he became man at conception this is why Mary is the mother of Christ our Lord not God.

the title mother of God is mischievous ,suffice it to say that Mary is the mother of christ.

The funny thing is that the Angel that brought the message to Mary told us that the child will be called "Son of God" and not God.
becos Jesus is different person from his father.

Ubenedictus:
I accept both paul , his words and his teaching.

Gal 4:4 say God sent his son born of a woman, if the son of God is God and he is born of a woman, then she is his mother.

Are you trying to please God or Man?

MuttleyLaff:
You are trying hard hiding from facing and anwering those questions.

Is your word that you've been typing here yafunyafun on this forum, you or not you?
Is your typed word(s) on this page blueAgent or not blueAgent?

My word, which comes from my mouth, is like the rain and snow.
It will not come back to me without results.
It will accomplish whatever I want and achieve whatever I send it to do."
- Isaiah 55:11

"¹In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
²The same was in the beginning with God.
³All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made."
- John 1:1-3

1/ What was Jesus, before Jesus appeared on earth as Jesus?
2/ Did God incarnate Himself in man, appearing as Jesus or He did not?
3/ Who do you think is the Word in John 1:1-3?

All this Bible verses refer to Jesus as the Son of God and not God himself.


Updated :
March 16, 2011
"And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my
beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Matthew 3:17, KJV
"And there came a voice from heaven, saying,
Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well
pleased."
Mark 1:11, KJV
"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape
like a dove upon him, and a voice came from
heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in
thee I am well pleased."
Luke 3:22, KJV
"While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud
overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of
the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in
whom I am well pleased; hear ye him."
Matthew 17:5, KJV
"And there was a cloud that overshadowed them:
and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is
my beloved Son: hear him."
Mark 9:7, KJV
"And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying,
This is my beloved Son: hear him."
Luke 9:35, KJV
"For he received from God the Father honour and
glory, when there came such a voice to him from
the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in
whom I am well pleased."
2 Peter 1:17, KJV
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his
only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in
him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to
condemn the world; but that the world through
him might be saved. He that believeth on him is
not condemned: but he that believeth not is
condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only begotten Son of
God."
John 3:16-18, KJV
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is
coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the
voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall
live."
John 5:25, KJV
"Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified,
and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest;
because I said, I am the Son of God?"
John 10:36, KJV
"When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is
not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the
Son of God might be glorified thereby."
John 11:4, KJV
"And the angel answered and said unto her, The
Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power
of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore
also that holy thing which shall be born of thee
shall be called the Son of God."
Luke 1:35, KJV
"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him,
and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh
away the sin of the world . . . And I saw, and bare
record that this is the Son of God . . . And looking
upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the
Lamb of God!"
John 1:29, 34, 36, KJV
". . . Of a truth thou art the Son of God."
Matthew 14:33b, KJV
". . . Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living
God. And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
Father which is in heaven."
Matthew 16:16b-17, KJV
"The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the
Son of God;"
Mark 1:1, KJV
"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son
of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was
the son of God."
Luke 3:38, KJV
". . . Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the
King of Israel."
John 1:49b, KJV
". . . Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ,
the Son of God, which should come into the
world."
John 11:27b, KJV
"But these are written, that ye might believe that
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that
believing ye might have life through his name."
John 20:31, KJV
"Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of
God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God."
1 John 4:15, KJV
"Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that
believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? . . . He that
believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in
himself: he that believeth not God hath made him
a liar; because he believeth not the record that
God gave of his Son . . . He that hath the Son hath
life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not
life. These things have I written unto you that
believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye
may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye
may believe on the name of the Son of God . . .
And we know that the Son of God is come, and
hath given us an understanding, that we may
know him that is true, and we are in him that is
true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true
God, and eternal life."
1 John 5:5, 10, 12-13, 20, KJV
"Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and
when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost
thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and
said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on
him? And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both
seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. And
he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him."
John 9:35-38, KJV
"Now when the centurion, and they that were with
him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and
those things that were done, they feared greatly,
saying, Truly this was the Son of God."
Matthew 27:54, KJV
"And when the centurion, which stood over
against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave
up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son
of God."
Mark 15:39, KJV
". . . I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
Acts 8:37b, KJV
"And straightway he preached Christ in the
synagogues, that he is the Son of God."
Acts 9:20, KJV
"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which
was made of the seed of David according to the
flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with
power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the
resurrection from the dead:"
Romans 1:3-4, KJV
"For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was
preached among you by us, even by me and
Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but
in him was yea."
2 Corinthians 1:19, KJV
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet
not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I
now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son
of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."
Galatians 2:20, KJV
"Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of
the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect
man, unto the measure of the stature of the
fulness of Christ:"
Ephesians 4:13, KJV
"Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that
is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,
let us hold fast our profession."
Hebrews 4:14, KJV
"If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto
repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the
Son of God afresh, and put him to an open
shame."
Hebrews 6:6, KJV
"Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye,
shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden
under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the
blood of the covenant, wherewith he was
sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done
despite unto the Spirit of grace?"
Hebrews 10:29, KJV
"And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have
we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art
thou come hither to torment us before the time?"
Matthew 8:29, KJV
"And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell
down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the
Son of God."
Mark 3:11, KJV
"And devils also came out of many, crying out,
and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And
he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for
they knew that he was Christ."
Luke 4:41, KJV
"When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down
before him, and with a loud voice said, What
have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God
most high? I beseech thee, torment me not."
Luke 8:28, KJV
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MuttleyLaff:
You're more confused than a chameleon in a bag of skittles

Where did the woman come from?
Did the woman not come from man?

You are right God existed on earth as Jesus
God the Father and Jesus, are one in person and one in agreement

Unlike what you want to believe, Jesus actually is in personality like His Father
Jesus even explained, saying
"I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself. He does only what he sees the Father doing.
Whatever the Father does, the Son also does."

If that isnt in personality like His Father, I dont know what would be

Keep FOOLING yourselves.

* God is love
1 John  4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

* God is Holy & righteous, Leviticus 11:44   For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy.

* God is merciful
2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

*God is All powerfull
Psalms 62:11 God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

*God alone has Immortality
1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting Amen.

*God is too big, that the Heavens(Universe) cannot contain him. 2Chronicles 2:6   But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?

*God is just.
Isaiah 45:21   Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

*God made the things seen from things that cannot  be seen Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

*God is unchangeable
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

* God cannot lie.
Titus 1:2   In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began.

* God is a living God, Jeremiah 10:10  But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king.

* God is never tired.
Isaiah  40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

* God is able to do all things
Jeremiah 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee.

* God is perfect.
2 Samuel 22:31As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

* God is an uncreated being.
Revelation 1:11 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

* God is higher than all other gods.Exodus 18:11 Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods: for in the thing wherein they dealt proudly he was above them.

* GOD stands for (General of all Dominion)
Colossians 2:10   And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power.

Please share on group chats,facebook,twitter,to your friends & relations to glorify This Great GOD.

* God is love
1 John  4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

* God is Holy & righteous, Leviticus 11:44   For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy.

* God is merciful
2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

*God is All powerfull
Psalms 62:11 God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

*God alone has Immortality
1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting Amen.

*God is too big, that the Heavens(Universe) cannot contain him. 2Chronicles 2:6   But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?

*God is just.
Isaiah 45:21   Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

*God made the things seen from things that cannot  be seen Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

*God is unchangeable
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

* God cannot lie.
Titus 1:2   In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began.

* God is a living God, Jeremiah 10:10  But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king.

* God is never tired.
Isaiah  40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

* God is able to do all things
Jeremiah 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee.

* God is perfect.
2 Samuel 22:31As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

* God is an uncreated being.
Revelation 1:11 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

* God is higher than all other gods.Exodus 18:11 Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods: for in the thing wherein they dealt proudly he was above them.

* GOD stands for (General of all Dominion)
Colossians 2:10   And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power.

Please share on group chats,facebook,twitter,to your friends & relations to glorify This Great GOD.

MuttleyLaff:
You would say it's total crap, wont you

"In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and the Word, was God."
- John 1:2

"And the Word, was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth."
- John 1:14

It is God's voice the people heard.
God, by now had already become a Father,
and that's why people heard God talking about "...my beloved Son...."

Stick to the matter at hand discussed.

You ignore several Bible verses that shows Jesus as the son of God while confusing yourself with one Bible verse.

This same Bible verse exposes your ingnorance

]In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, [b]and the Word, was God John 1:2.
The word is Jesus and it was with God. show two different personality
The word was God showing that they are united in purpose and nature not in person

Now let me ask you when a man marries a woman the both become one,does it mean they no longer exist as different persons?
The word one does not mean Jesus is God, but God's son automatically means he is also God but not in personality like his father.