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UbiPetrus:
hahahahahahaha...
I feel your pain.
Don't worry, I'll pray the Rosary for you, tonight.
The Blessed Virgin Mary is and forever remains the mother of God.

fuckerstard:
I've been around for about 3 decades or so, i can remember vividly in the 90's how most Christians would talk about the coming of Jesus christ.

The pastors also preach about his coming, i remember some said we would hear the trumpets and the world we know would come to end.

I doubt if the world is coming to an end anytime soon. What do you think? I'm not condemning any religion, so please no hard feelings.

bizzibodi:
Look America is nothing without istrael.

UbiPetrus:
What is the lie? That Jesus Christ the son of God is the second person of the Blessed Trinity, was conceived and born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried, descended to the dead, rose from the dead on the third day, ascended into heaven, sits at the right hand of the father and will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead?

Where is the lie and what biblical support do you need?

UbiPetrus:
First, you called me a hypocrite. Now, you think I'm being crafty.

How insecure can you be.

Oh I get it.
The same guys who do not know the Scriptures are getting you schooled in your own show.

I feel your pain, believe me.

UbiPetrus:
About the Trinity doctrine (which you know absolutely nothing about), I'd leave you with the Athanasian Creed, blueagent.


Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

Have a good night.

MuttleyLaff:
You that milk makes you lactose intolerance,
you really think giving you strong meat is wise or advisable

I care for your wellbeing and health
You havent a strong stomach for the answer
besides before it gets to your stomach,
you'll most likely already have choked on it

AroOkigbo:
Inconclusive payment

MuttleyLaff:
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My brother if I start to talk.
Erh, my brother, e no go end
I have the answers to give,
I know what I bring to the table.

UbiPetrus:
Are you sure you want to know and ready to accept this truth?

Well, to begin with, the Trinity doctrine doesn't say the son is the Father.
It doesn't say the Father is the Son.
It doesn't say the Son is the Holy Spirit.
It doesn't say the Holy Spirit is the Son.
It doesn't say the Father is the Holy Spirit and it doesn't say the Holy Spirit is the Father.
In fact, to suggest any of the above is a heresy as long as the Holy Mother Church is concerned.

So, what does the Trinity doctrine say?
Are you sure you want to hear it?
Can you comprehend it?
I guess you need the Holy Spirit at this point more than ever.(we all do, anyway)

So far, you've been arguing against your own idea.

MuttleyLaff:
It wouldnt make a difference to you, that is why you arent giving the answers to disrespectfully trample on
The answers to your questions, as usual, will cause you indigestion

SmartestG:
Interesting. I have already started doing a study on this issue... The first parameters I considered were archeological evidence from stories written in each holy book, and accuracy of prophecies/revelations. This writeup will help my quest.

Syncan:
Do you want the truth, or to hold on to the opinion of whoever you have been listening to? Remember this is not a law court, it's about Faith, only the truth will set you free.

Stop trying hard to justify yourself as correct by forcing falsehood on me. Since 325 AD, after the council of Nicea, No Catholic ever claims that the father is the son, for it is a heresy. So you see how ridiculous telling such a lie against us look? That's why you're getting these funny responses from others.

Meanwhile, I just answered your question clearly, with scripture and your words, yet you didn't even acknowledge that I was right.

CHIGIM:
confuss

UbiPetrus:
What is this clown blabbing about? Who says Jesus is the father? Is that what your understanding of the Trinity is? And you even had to call me a hypocrite?
I knew it from day one that you're very confused.

UbiPetrus:
What is this clown blabbing about? Who says Jesus is the father? Is that what your understanding of the Trinity is? And you even had to call me a hypocrite?
I knew it from day one that you're very confused.

Syncan:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Again, according to your added posts above, God also calls his son God in Heb1:8, and I agree, because his son is the Word, who was with him from the beginning, and who was made flesh (in the womb of the Virgin Mary), and dwelt among us, John 1:14.



I just quoted scripture, are you quarreling with it?

UbiPetrus:
You got your question directed wrongly. You should direct them to the Scriptures, instead.

"In the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was God." John 1:1.

You are obviously chewing a cord larger than your mouth.
I'm watching you from a distance

Syncan:
Please clarify yourself without bringing Catholics in, you don't know what we say. Stop telling lies against us, except the devil is your father.

John1:1, they mentioned two beings according to you, yet you didn't see where they said that:

1. That second being was with God
2. That Second being is God.

solite3:
so if Jesus is not God who is he?
how does proverb 8:22 matches John 1:2

CHIGIM:
brainwash, another white slave.just so u know jesus was not a Christian in is time but a jew

solite3:
plus read John 1:1

Zoharariel:
Thank you my brother! If Amerika is indeed the greatest world power, why is Assad still in power in Syria?

The bastards did not take this long before they killed Ghaddafi & Saddam.

Trust me, Amerika can only send her army against illiterate savages armed with coconuts.

After the 50-year old Soviet-era Syrian Air Defense Systems proved to the world that the Amerikan Tomahawks Cruise-missiles are essentially scrap metals, the bastards are discontinuing its development.

https://www.defenseone.com/business/2017/04/us-about-stop-buying-tomahawk-missiles-ones-hit-syria/136866/

The Amerikan MIC has long been unable to produce durable effective and universal weapons. Take the assault rifle M16 (famous American assault rifle) for instance, it has problems in the presence of even small amounts of sand. Without air and artillery support and huge advantage in numbers on your side, you are dead meat against anyone with a pistol that works in the presence of sand.

What about her main battle tanks - M1 Abrams? whose turbine ventilators cannot withstand sand?

Amerika that cannot even make a heavy rocket engine, not to mention a good helmet for F-35.

How many times has Russian submarines war-gamed Amerikan useless aircraft-carriers and they fled without following the orders to stay put?

Ask them to name just one Amerikan Air Defense System that can successfully intercept the Russian SS-18 Satan?

Can Amerika match Russia's EW capabilities? How many times have Amerikan Frigates & Aircraft-Carriers been disabled by Russia?

What about Amerikan drones? Ordinary Iran dey seize Amerikan drone while airborne, not to talk of Russia.

Below is a video of an Amerikan drone being commandeered by Russia live in Crimea but you will never read about it on CNN.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27aGJ20mQWY

All these assholes arguing in favour of Amerika are all children. One of them was even mentioning the Gulf war.

Even the Amerikan perfumed-military Generals dey piss for their body when the name "Russia" is mentioned during their meetings.

Proudlyngwa:
Can you mention countries currently suffering from Russia and China communist policies.
Incase you dont know, Russia is a Democratic nation which is way different from the USSR.

How many countries do these two currently occupy via proxies and boots on ground.
Are we suffering from US destabilisation of Tripoli or not.
Is the middle East Chaotic or not.
How is life in Afghanistan.

The major failure of US led occupation, Vietnam how are the doing.
The US has their nose in way too many squabbles and that is because of the over confidence of their military might.
The world is not at war, the United States has human intellectual integration fronbthe whole world.
We need peace time machines , not war machines.

Proudlyngwa:
Once Again Rubbish post.
911 was the product of a US creation
The US has a very large and unnecessary army.
If they can learn to mind their business, their Enemies will drastically reduce.

Incase you are not aware North Eastern Nigeria is suffering from the after effects of US oversabi in Libya.
Yet they behave as if they don't care, because they have not gotten the right bargaining chip.

They can continue building weapons and leaving in paranoia or they can afford to build peace time objects and enjoy the ripple effects.

DeSepiero:
Are you concluding that no other religious book matches reality, logic and evidence?
Your second statement has nothing to do with bible or Christianity

Proudlyngwa:
Once Again Rubbish post.
911 was the product of a US creation
The US has a very large and unnecessary army.
If they can learn to mind their business, their Enemies will drastically reduce.

Incase you are not aware North Eastern Nigeria is suffering from the after effects of US oversabi in Libya.
Yet they behave as if they don't care, because they have not gotten the right bargaining chip.

They can continue building weapons and leaving in paranoia or they can afford to build peace time objects and enjoy the ripple effects.




Joker.

Proudlyngwa:
waste of comment
Slave man mentality.
If half of that money had been put into core aeronautics and ship building, we would have had safer and faster long distance travel, not toys that give you inspiration to go to war

Bibors:
While i understood you abinitio, I still beg to differ that such a weapon shouldnt be in the hands of any country, the US inclusive.
When they developed thw atomic bomb, they didnt hesitate to use it and the effects are still there.
They had to ensure that Japan will be deweaponised for fear of a reprisal attack in the future.

Also note that whoever has absolute power determines what is right and wrong, who to live or die etc.

When they accused Sadam of having weapon of mass destruction, Iraq was a relatively peaceful country. They invaded Iraq , didnt find the weapon and that invasion created a turbulent Iraq till date.
They also went ahead to do same in Lybia and the rest is history. From your argument, is the US mature enough to have nuclear weapons/power which enables them being pain to other nations for nothing?

Why havent they ended the war in Syria if they are so matured?

TFLASHOGEE:
help me ask them o we no get snow to lunch our own and last last if you check the brain behind the invention na still black so what the oyinbo get brain pass all about

Bibors:
Cannot be trusted with Nuclear power by who?
Who has the parameter or yardstick of measuring maturity?
How can you call North Korea a Juvenile? A whole country?
Even if you are referring to her president, is he the youngest of presidents?

If Nigeria develops Nuclear weapons today, will you caller her Juvenile considering the age of our president?