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I get something to talk about this sharia in the south west , It may not sit down well with a whole lot of people but I go still talk am for posterity purpose .

It’s a lengthy read tho, but it is my personal opinion and it is how I feel about everything happening all at once .

I will try to make it brief as much as I can.

iamoyindamola:
Lol
Religion was extracted from culture
Culture is the way of live, your belief is also part of your culture
So why will you want to carry a sub of culture ahead of culture

I wish I could like this 1 million times .

Oil Dey ur head 👌

izzou:
[color=royalblue] You're funny, bros.

That's just a video of students driving out. Where did the school forbid them from driving cars?

They specifically listed what they warned them about, of which the video proves none of it, and you don already equate am to mental laziness.

What exactly in this video relates to the memo you posted?[/color]

Na wa for u o.

The search bar on the video reads "AAU Sign Out 2025 " meaning the video is in relation to the recent sign out at AAU. We discussed earlier about the memo in which the school announced cancellation of some papers because the students did car parade, blocked some access roads with their convoy , etc as agsinst the school rules.

Someone has gone ahead to bring a video of the students' vehicles leaving their faculty (probably proceeding to the point where they blocked the access roads in their road show) , but here u are still trying to claim what I don't even know.

You spent all morning trying to justify the unreasonable punishment. You were sounding as if all the students own cars and were guilty of the offence, now dem show u the number of cars involved in the parade u don dey change mouth. Haba!

AbokiWam:

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You see now that it is only just mental laziness that made the school management come up with the nonsense decision of cancelling the entire students' exams.

I know the intention of the lecturers is to ensure all the students who flashed their expensive cars come back to rewrite the course so they can mock them and if possible fail as many of them as possible. But this is Nigeria, we all know that most of the students who owned those cars are not relying on whatever they have written in the exam hall. Most of them will sort their way even if they re-write the exam 100 times.

The school management while chasing shadows should be reasonable enough to know that the real serious students are the ones whom they will end up punishing. The serious students who want to go for NYSC ASAP will end up getting punished unjustly. Most of the people who own those cars don't even give a 4ck about school.

larride:
Na part of our final year people that we did meetings together that identified all my friends. My name was the first on the list with the tag - Ring leader.

Since then I no dey advise anybody about flouting any rules or laws on talkless of joining any protest especially if you are popular.

Your matter is at the departmental level , so it will always go down that way.

At the SUG level , those kind casting level no dey happen. Even some of their protests used to have blessings of some alumni who are now in state house of assembly as honorable and different position in government. That is why most of those protests always succeed and the school management dey always bow in the end.

larride:
I once shared a story of how I almost had an extra year here in my final year.

Our school started no school fees no test not even exam oooo. As the immediate ex President of my departmental association, our people came to me to ask me to talk to our HoD. I asked our HoD if they will allow final year to write the test even without paying yet or they will allow us to write it after paying the school fees. He answered NO to both question. So we final year agreed that once the test start, we will all refuse to enter the hall to write it. First paper was our HoD paper International Accounting, test about to start and he said those that have paid their fees should enter the hall, omo na so some girls started entering and some follow follow guys. Don't forget that we all agreed not to write the test ooo but they betrayed us. Out of 112 students, na about 60 dey inside hall, na so this outside begin riot, throwing pure water at the students inside, banging the door and all. Some even threatened to slap our HoD. As the ex President and recognized leader, I tried to ask our HoD for way out, he asked me to go speak to Dean of student affairs but unfortunately the man wasn't around. The chaos refused to stop so our HoD cancel the test, as he came out of the hall, he came straight to where I was, pointed at me and said I will never graduate.

Like play like play, rumours started flying to a other campuses that Accounting Department
President wanted to beat their HoD and all sorts. A week later they pasted my names and all my friends to face panel. Out of over 50 students, they only pick me and my circle of friends. 6 of us. We faced panel 3 times. It was one of our lecturers that told me that they want to expel us as a lesson to others and that the only person that can help us is our HoD and our Provost.

Thankfully our Provost was a Pastor, we left our school to go to his church inside Ibadan, after service we just started prostrating and begging. The man was visibly embarrassed and decided to hear our plea. He then told us to go beg our HoD and that if the man can forgive us, the letter an be used to help us reduce from expulsion to just 1 semester suspension. Las las we begged and begged our HoD and he wrote a letter on our behalf.

On the day we were suppose to begin final exams, we got our disciplinary letters, thankfully our HoD recommended total forgiveness for us and they just gave us last warnings and let us off. I'm still grateful to our HoD till today. Funny enough, both of his course he taught us during that period I had B in both.

Any protest that don't have the full co-operation of student union and majority of the students will surely fail. That's why they always say injustice to one is injustice to all. Na why when dem wan start aluta, they always have series of meetings on how to effect full compliance from all students after they must have done rigorous consultations.

Nonsense talk, this why they say one should not listen to all elders because fools do grow old.

Since this man lost his re-election way back in Osun state ; all he has done is just lick Tinubu's asss for his daily bread. He has no visible business traceable to him, nothing going on well for him; Just licking Tinubu's arse for a living wage.

No one is surprised is trying to sell this yeye narrative ; I won't be surprised if he's the one personally in charge of formulating propaganda for APC .

Imagine trying to spin an incident that happened a year after Buhari started his second term as being targeted at Tinubu that wasn't even a president then nor has he declared he's interested in running for president.

To think this yeye man was part of those who organized the 2012 Subsidy removal protest when APC was not yet in power. Omo!

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I totally agree with this..

The only problem now is that those that are fit to be an institution of higher education, dem no born anybody to go against a warning or law.

The fact that the school would warn, and a number will flout it, shows they should even close the school down.[/color]

Whatever u choose to call it, the school management erred, and it is the responsibility of the student union government to challenge them and take them up for their abuse of power

iamoyindamola:
I also give example of cultists using that avenue to wreck havoc and also damage of school properties

But how you expect school to fish out the innocent one in about 60 students doing signing out celebration
I don't get it honestly

Nowhere in the memo was there any mention of any havoc being wreak to the school properties. You are importing this into the discussion just to make a point that is non existent in the discourse.

So because the school cannot fish out the guilty parties, then they should punish everybody both the guilty and the innocent?

Baba, University is not secondary school where the teach will flog the whole classroom because one person made an offensive comment, and the teacher couldn't identify who that person is.

University is a place where u Mould adults into responsible adults who will uphold justice, fairness and equity.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] You're sure it is a few?

Or you want to hold on to that as the last straw, after finding out it is not ALL FINAL YEAR STUDENTS?

When we see the video, you want to bet that it is a few?[/color]

Bet what? That all students of the department engaged in the road show? I can bet u that all students didn't engage in the road show.

There's a reason why there's student affairs department in a university system. Let the school management collaborate with the student affairs dean and fish out the erring students for appropriate punishment. If the school can't do that, then they are not fit to be an institution of higher education in this age and time .

AbokiWam:
Immediately after Covid..Uniabuja VC once tried something similar like this before.

The students blocked that major gwagwalada - giri express road leading to the airport for almost a full day.

Armed soldiers had to be sent to be able to get those guys away.

He later went back on his word

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Student union should take the school up and lock everywhere down; the school Mangement will go back to their senses.

iamoyindamola:
When you signed out in school, were there some that didn't join in the celebration?

Yes! We had people who wrote their exams and left immediately. We had people who couldn't even afford to buy that Final year shirt people customize.

Why are u acting like u didn't even saw extremely poor fellow graduates in NYSC camp? There were people who couldn't afford to miss a single meal served at the NYSC kitchen simply because they couldn't afford to buy food at Mammi market.

This is something they have been planning all semester, the school knows students have cars and have blocked access areas before
They released a memo to address this, the students couldn't plan their FYD in a way not to violate school law
The school react , you want to blame the school
The students should snitch on their mates then if they don't want to rewrite because that's what I will do

This is where u are missing it. The law is made for students and not for departments/buildings.

If the school is saying students should not do this and they believe students have done exactly this thing, the onus is on the school to fish out the erring students and punish them accordingly. It is mental laziness and complete irresponsibility for the school management to punish all students for something they do not have evidence to show that all students did.

I have given a very logical example of police arresting the whole occupants of a building simply because one person in that house assaulted a policeman. It is wrong and illegal.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]My point is everywhere has a law

You steal public funds in Nigeria? You go to jail
You steal in China? You are killed.

If you don't want to be killed, go and steal in Nigeria.

AAU has a right to put a law. You and I and the 3 departments cannot dictate to them how to run their school.

They repeatedly passed the memo and yet 3 departments decided to flout it. How come others didn't? You should ask yourself that

We can fight for the others by using videos to fish out the perpetrators; since what the Dean and HODs saw on that day isn't enough.

Or better still, they shouldn't rewrite. They should protest like you said. [/color]

You are just trying to turn logic on its head but u are failing woefully at it.

You claimed 3 departments flouted the school laws , nobody has argued to the contrary .Now answer this question: "Is it fair to punish all the final year students of the 3 departments for an offence committed by few of them?" .

I'm sure u will never answer the question because u know the answer will flaw ur own logic.

If the Dean, HOD's and lecturers are that are saddled with the responsibility of Moulding leaders of tomorrow who are supposed to create a fair and just society cannot be fair in apportioning punishment to specific erring students; what gives u the impetus to think this country will ever be better?

If u will support such unreasonable stand by the school authority, why not let us just revert to military rule in which anybody can be punished at the discretion of whoever is in power without thinking about fairness and proportionality when meting out punishment?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The school has a law for fucck's sake. Why are you not concerned that Graduating students won't keep to it?

Last year or so, Covenant kicked out 2 Muslims for wearing Hijab on JAMB day. It is a law in that school, and yes, they have the right to uphold it.

Why are you emphasizing on injustice, when all the departments in AAU obeyed, except these 3?

Should schools not have laws again? If someone was killed in that celebration or properties were vandalized, we will still come back and call AAU a useless school.

I hope they don't rewrite it sha. Is it not Nigeria again?[/color]

What are u even saying?

You are providing example of covenant kicking specific Muslim students out (not all Muslim students but the particular erring ones) to justify AAU punishing all students who took their final exams that day. Can't u see how flawed ur logic is?

You have stylishly refused to address the injustice of punishing students who wrote the same papers but didn't have car to block gate nor bundles of cash to throw away.

We are speaking for those students here, we are challenging the school to fish out the few erring students and punish them while sparing those that never partook in the show.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Evil?

They didn't suspend or expel anybody. Just come and rewrite a paper and it is evil.

If na Covenant, na expulsion straight, and I am 100% sure it would not be evil. We would insist there was a law already.

I support you sha. They should not rewrite it. Let them protest and block all entrance and exit points till the school changes this decision.

I hope I am not supporting evil now.[/color]

It is evil because u are suggesting it is okay to cancel the papers of everyone who wrote the particular exam despite knowing fully well that all the students could not have been involved in the offence they are to be punished for.

iamoyindamola:
It's an unfortunate situation they were warned ahead
I am sure if they go back to rewrite the exam, they won't celebrate loudly
So what changed?

The law doesn't work that way.

The law will not say we warned every member of the society not to attack a police officer, but since one occupant of a building attacked a policeman; then we will arrest all occupants of the building.

GloriousGbola:
it is the same thing

the irony is they know at least some of the people partying and can easily identify them if they wanted to

how many students have cars for motorcade?
they will be all over social media as well.
is it not how one chick got into trouble for wearing a shirt with a funny slogan?

if they want to identify the students who did this, they can easily identify some of them. they are the ones in authority

this is an act of mental laziness typical of our so called egg heads

Simple as ABC! It is just mental laziness and nothing more.

I'm surprised anybody would even support the school management on this grave injustice.

There must have been videos online that triggered the school management to convey a meeting where the decision to cancel the papers was discussed. Why can't they use the videos to identify and punish the erring students instead of giving a blanket punishment?

iamoyindamola:
All students bawo
There are 3 courses there na and with the codes they ain't general course code
The school must have narrow down the culprits to list out these courses

So according to ur logic everyone who wrote the particular exam owns a car and participated in the motorcade parade after the exams, sprayed bundles of naira notes and blocked the school entrance gate with their cars right?

I'm sure the school senate must have seen videos of the students involved in the "show" before they convened their meeting. The reasonable question to ask is why can't the body of academics in conjunction with the student affairs department use these videos to identify the students involved in the "show" and punish them accordingly?

The only reason u can be having this kinda opinion is because u are not caught in the middle of this whole mess.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]That is not what the memo said

It identified 3 departments as the violators; Mass comm, English, History and International studies., and it listed the exam papers that were cancelled.

3 departments in one faculty alone.

Which one be all students there?

Make dem shut down the school and protest. I really hope they don't rewrite it, so justice and fairness can prevail.[/color]

So all the students in the 3 departments engaged in the activity according to ur logic right? So all the students of the 3 departments must be made to rewrite their exams right?

U can't claim to be enforcing a law while trampling on the rights of innocent students.

You really don't know the evil u are supporting at all. It's just like one person beating a policeman in uniform in a 3 storey building and the next day the police shows up to pack all occupants of the building, detain them and charge them for assault on an officer of the law. If the police cannot identify the specific individual who assaulted the officer, then they are wrong to arrest and jail the whole occupants of the building.

iamoyindamola:
Without severe punishment students will continue to violate laws, but why is it hard to just abide by rules and regulations in this country

Thoughts like this is what makes military men take over government and start engaging in human rights abuse.

U need to understand that for someting to be called a law, it must pass some tests. Is the so called law fair and just to the people it is to be applied to? Is the so called law proportional to the offence committed? Is this so called law repugnant to public policy?

In the above questions lie ur answers.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Did you read the memo you posted?[/color]

I did. The memo was referring to all students who wrote exams on that particular date . What is the probability that all the students of that faculty and department were involved in the motorcade and excessive celebration ?

Some of the students couldn’t even afford to eat a meal before the exams .

I’m taking this personal because if this had happened to me in my final paper I will be mad as 4ck 😡. On the day of my final exam I was dead broke and just wanted to write the paper , page the school premises the next day and go look for wetin Dey turn money for streets .

Anybody telling me to rewrite an exam because some yahoo boys brought their car to show off after exams is definitely going after my life at that point .

When I was in 400l the school management abruptly announced the date of our 400l 1st semester exams and date of closure of course registration on the school portal out of the blues .

A lot of students were in disarray and saw extra semester staring them in the face . They appealed for the school to have a rethink but the school management didn’t budge . To think indigent students comprised the vast majority of the student population didn’t move the school management one bit.

The portal was eventually closed and a lot of 400l students hadn’t registered their courses before the closure . The implication of this is that even if u pay ur school fees after the cut off date , u still wouldn’t be able to register ur courses and any exams u write ; the result will never get uploaded to ur academic profile .

On the day th me school scheduled for the first paper , student union guys and multitude of students don mount school compound as early as 5.30am. They pursued the school security guards off their duty post and stationed patiently waiting for the reinforcements of armed anti-riot policemen to show face . They sacked the VC and deputy VC’s cars , had to be dispersed by anti riot policemen and the school was closed indefinitely .

The school management caved in and allowed ample time for the affected students to register and write the exams as against their initial position. I never saw anything like that before 🥵

As it then I wasn’t in support of the students’ actions and even till now I don’t think their actions sit down well with me , but that was the first time I saw students acting in unison against what they believe to be against their common interest and won.

I believe the Ekpoma guys can take a leaf from the situation.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So you think it is 1 or 10 people that broke that law, before AAU decided to cancel papers?

I won't be surprised if the SU follows your advise sha. Is it not Nigeria again? They should even burn down the school sef.

A simple law will be given, and we would not follow it. When there's a penalty, we immediately turn the tables.

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I go university and I graduate ; I know the number of students always engaging in excessive celebration are few in comparison to the total number of students in the entire university system .

If u follow news of various university convocation , u will see news like :”16,000 graduates from Unilag at the 55th convocation “…. Now the question is do u see 16,000 final year students of Unilag doing a motorcade , hooting of horns and blocking access to university road in Yaba? The answer is a big NO! The people who carry out this excessive celebration may not even be up to 200 of the entire graduating class . Why make all of them rewrite their final exams?

If u want to talk about laws and penalties ; then u should be easy to talk about fairness and also proportionality of penalties in relation with the offences committed .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]But schools should have laws, abi?

No spraying of money, no hooting unnecessarily, no blocking of access roads; All of which students violated.

This is not an issue of Almighty wisdom, but just a simple law that we as Nigerians will never keep.

If it was a University in the US or UK, no Nigerian born of a woman would think of violating it; no matter him level for cultism or Yahoo.[/color]

So if schools should have laws , the penalty should be to cancel all exams written by all students and ask them to reseat exams Abi ?

What happened to identifying the students involved in the “breaking of the school laws “ and punishing them for their” offences “?

If u want to go about the route of UK or US schools then u should be ready to do what they will do in the same circumstance . Those schools u want to reference will fish out the perpetrators/guilty students who carried out the car display , unnecessary hooting and blocking of access roads; they will punish them accordingly .

The point is: It makes absolutely no sense for u to tell me wey borrow money to buy candle to read for my last exams to go back and reseat am exam I gave my 100% best simply because my fellow students chose to break the law . Nobody punishes the entire populace for the sin of few in advanced society .

I still maintain that the student union has the mandate to fight this injustice on behalf of the innocent students .

Matters Arising at Ambrose Ali University Ekpoma:

The school earlier issued directives prohibiting excessive celebration of final exams involving car display, spraying of money, shouting and hooting within ghe campus. Apparently some students violated this directive and the school management in its "almighty wisdom" thinks the best punishment is for them to cancel all papers written on the final day of the exams .

My personal opinion on the matter : The only reason this nonsense injustice will stand is if student unionism has died in public universities in Nigeria . Under any guise , there’s no justification whatsoever for any student to be made to rewrite an exam he or she didn’t fail nor was caught engaging in exam malpractice .

If the student union of this school knows their onions, they should stage a massive protest that will shake the whole state , shut down every academic and non academic activities within the school premises indefinitely and force the school management to come down from the high horse they are seated on.

In fact , they should occupy the school indefinitely such that even if armed policemen and soldiers are deployed to the school premises they will be unable to curtail the students who will insist the school management goes on radio to announce reversal of this callous and useless memo. The school senate/management should not even be allowed to seat and deliberate on the matter within the school premises .

mine3112:
I totally agree with you. Whoever that sanctioned that loan move should cover his or her face in shame. It is a total shambolic!

Edu Gasper signed Sterling and Ian Wright was one of the people who claimed Sterling deal will be a magnificent deal for the club

iamoyindamola:
Kim kardasian Ikebe super was injured almost through out his loan spell but he scored the win pk which took us to the final of fa cup
This sterling is ashira oja, we should send him back tonight sef

Na champions league final Sterling dey save his wonder goal for 😜

If we are to judge Sterling by the first 6 months I'd his loan at Arsenal, I think we can unanimously agree that his loan spell has been worse than Kim Kaalstrom loan at Arsenal under Wenger back in the days. 😩

Sterling life Don spoil finally, he still miss free PK

iamoyindamola:
At 28 he can’t develop again

Nothing is impossible in football, there are players who are late bloomers like dem Diego Forlan

Merino has a lot of blending to do if he will make it at Arsenal. He's just busy ghosting matches, misplacing passes and strolling when he loses the ball.

Goal disallowed for Girona by the way

Sterling weyrey the scuba diver