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WhoDeyHause:
God this God that, just dey lie on top innocent God head.

They know once they put God inside their talk , the ignorant masses will lap on to their lamba

seankafor:
I've not seen an ugly politician wife before?

They marry strategically na

Mrs T-Pain don drop quote 😎

Ellexy:
I think you're missing the main point. The man said if an puts on a flimsy clothing and is raped, it's not considered rape in Islam cos she brought it on herself and the person that did it. Infact before Allah, she committed the worse atrocity.

The issue is about the dressing not the rape. In the North you talked about, ladies don't wear flimsy clothes, the Southerners over there who aren't Muslims advise themselves accordingly what to wear and what not to wear. There's a clear difference.

You are the one missing the point . Izzou is saying the man is either lying or giving his opinion which has no Quranic backing .

It’s just like Ibiyomie making an analogy that the fruit Adam ate at the garden of Eden was tithe even when there’s nowhere in the Bible it was written that the fruits Adam ate was tithe .

The only way u can prove what the man is saying is admissible in Islam is if u can point out the exact Quran verse which speaks to his claim that raping a lady not decently dress is not a sin in the face of Allah.

Let it go bro.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I wouldn't blame a Muslim if he thinks that guy speaks for the religion

Afterall, he's revered and has a massive followership.

That one na Pastorpreneur[/color]

That was how Selman too was saying that for u got really get blessed by God , u need to give to ur pastor . He said one can never be rich by merely giving to the poor in the society .

He was trying to counter the idea that instead of giving tithe to ur pastor , u can use it for charitable courses by giving to the poor .

🤦‍♂️

There’s no length to which they won’t go just to have people part with their cash .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It doesn’t still change the fact that he is lying.

I have never heard of Islam encouraging any form of rape since i was born. How come it is in 2024 that Allah dropped this EP?

Islam wey get law for almost everything; How you go UnCloth wife, laugh with am, kiss am, blah blah blah. Na this kind religion go encourage rape?

That is how David Ibiyeome said Adam ate Tithe. I am sure that is not in your bible.

If a Muslim says it is a Christian doctrine, would you say he is correct?[/color]

The way Ibiyomie take like tithe ehn , more like he’s in love with tithes 😂

Ellexy:
The Nigerian Muslim community extol him highly. Recently the Sultan of Sokoto invited him to Nigeria and he came and was the Sultan as the Head of state.

I guess it is the northern Muslims that really rate him. I’ve never really heard about the guy from the southern Muslims up till this moment

Ellexy:
Do you know who Zakir Naik is?

Zakir Abdul Karim Naik is an Indian Islamic public orator who focuses on comparative religion. Naik is currently a wanted fugitive in India, where, in 2016, the authorities charged Naik for money laundering while he was abroad in Malaysia; Naik did not return to India and became a permanent resident of Malaysia

The man sef na criminal, no wonder.

Ihebu4chelsea:
Most times, I think those bet companies take advantage of our economic situation. People just look for ways to meet ends. Can you imagine how your Life Will be without a good job? (God forbid) The truth is No one bets for fun abi adrenaline rush like itrsm said. The essence of gambling is to make Money

I agree with u but u see ehn, the moment u come to the realization that there's no free money anywhere and to see money is not easy; it will be easier to disabuse ur mind . It will be easier for u to understand that the negative side of gambling outweighs the positive side.

U see okada riders, bus drivers, tailors, mechanics, civil servants, etc who are not doing really bad financially pumping money they should be channeling to their family needs towards gambling with the hope of becoming multi millionaires overnight. That's not really the fault of the economic situation my brother.

People just dey look for money wey dem no keep anywhere hoping their luck will shine.

raumdeuter:
There is a religious component to this which is the underlying and most important part. Once there is an ideological component to it, then it stops making sense and even money cannot placate them. Money becomes tagged a tool of the infidels. In the relatively peaceful Arab countries, there is a constant extreme that is barely getting suppressed and they even need external people to fight them.

All those rich enjoyment Qatar UAE Saudi etc are only one virulent cleric and coup away from turning into Iran post Shah. See how Afghanistan, Lebanon and Iran turned from normal enjoyment societies into extreme ones between the 70s to the 90s

Look at Arabian migrants into countries in Europe and the the West they still harbor the plan in their minds to spread their primitive ways of life.

Its the same reason there is problems between Moslem and Jews, Moslems vs Hindus, Moslems vs Xtians, Moslem vs Atheist. You realize where there is an interface with Moslems, the extremists part always show up aggressively and warlike. and even 100% Moslem societies their moderates are not spared. Never mind the Shia vs Sunni The race towards extremism is never ending, One person will find something to be more extreme about. Like how ISIS made AlQaeda and Hezbollah look like Boys scouts

The bold is what worries me most about those guys. They go to Europe where they find life relatively easy, they are allowed to practice their religion and somehow they will still find reasons to knife citizens of the host countries(most times unprovoked)

I mean if they claim to be fighting as the resistance in their home country and all; how do they justify fomenting trouble in another person's country where they are treated well and their rights are protected?

GloriousGbola:
And if you don't have adblock on your browser every link from Sodiq will give you five betting pop ups. Designed to catch our pikins straight!

This can be so annoying and embarrassing . But I guess that's the price to pay for downloading films illegally.

Every time u just get redirected to Bet9ja site where they already open the registration page waiting for u.

Imagine when u are trying to run away from gambling and then u see Bet9ja page anywhere u turn online.

GloriousGbola:
the guy still try sef - he did not wife some unfortunate babe and proceed to turn her prematurely grey. every once in a while there is a thread on FP featuring a woman in the nightmare of a husband lost to bet9ja

You see the bolded, that's why I think itsrm doesn't know the world he wants to journey into.

I once read a thread where a lady narrated how her husband who used to be very responsible started betting and everything just changed in their family. The man who used to be very decent became an addict to gambling which led to serious disgrace; he could barely point to anything he does with his salary while the wife and children started suffering. She cried for help and was asking people to advice her on what to do because she has prayed, begged him to stop, reported to his parents and nothing seem to be working.

Gambling can disorient a person.

I know someone who used to jokingly say "Once ur enemy starts gambling, u don't need to pray for him to die. He's already battling with what will kill him "

GloriousGbola:
to end an addiction you are supposed to modify your environment - but you cant modify your environment when there is a bet9ja everywhere you turn - even beside the secondary schools

It is worse now, only few local guys still patronize shops.

All u need do is download the bet app of ur choice or visit their web page on ur phone, fund ur bet account through transfer or ATM card, bet as much as u want. When u lose all ur deposit, fund ur account again and continue betting.

How do u modify ur environment when u literally carry the bet shop around in ur phone ?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Bet9ja shops open from Monday to Sunday...

No leave, no transfer, no downtime.

Everyday, the same set of people are queuing up to pay obeisance to the Grandmaster

This one don pass Self discipline matter. It's either abstinence or you get cooked[/color]

Let’s just say Bet9ja is the biggest cult in naija .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The reason why Itsrm is speaking this way is because he is getting to gamble at a very very responsible age.

He is matured, and able to know when to stop.

I started my miserable journey to gambling in my final year. It was one bet hous at Abakpa, Enugu.

The first game i played was with 100 naira, and i won 13k.. Na so Bet9ja take blend me. From then, it was back to back loses till i stopped.

So, i can understand Itsrm if he insists he can stop. He's way more responsible and matured as a beginner. [/color]

Na real blending. Bet9ja be like Cult, to commot inside dey hard.

Even if u join at old age sef, once u start winning it is only a matter of time before addiction sets in. Betting money can be sweet when u win sha

Theflint1:
Fit be say na desire for adrenaline rush make these people leave the comfort of their beds dey sleep ground for Onile office

Adrenaline indeed

Leave itsrm to be theorizing something wey don commot cloth for people body and even collect car for people hand in practical

Theflint1:
Na the koko be this, anything else is throwing money away casually...without creating the conditions necessary for an addiction, a break in pattern, and/or potential loss of capital as predicted, the experiment is invalid.

U get.

Itsrm:
I get your point.

What I'm saying is a mindset that sees money lost during betting as the same as money lost watching a music show or watching football at a viewing centre. It can be argued that those other activities give value for money compared to betting.

However, the fun, thrill and adrenaline rush that comes with betting plus the added benefit of financial reward is also value.

You then highlighted the problem of addiction and I said I have absolute control over my emotions. Win or lose, I stick to the plan.

While I want to win money, I am acknowdeging the fact that even if I lose, the 30k is no different from the 30k nihilist will spend buying white london over the course of the season.

Baba u are comparing apples to oranges. Nobody goes into betting because they just want to throw away money. Adrenaline rush is never the satisfaction to be derived from betting, in fact that adrenaline rush is one of the negative side of betting; u would feel uneasy and get tormented with the near-there syndrome.

For example look at Arsenal Vs Man city game few weeks ago. We would have people who bet on City to win against Arsenal considering City hasn't lost in their home stadium for a wile now and City are in good form. The game starts and City leads as expected . You will be happy and relaxed the game is going on as planned till Arsenal draw level. Then shortly after Arsenal takes the lead 2-1. At that point u start getting uneasy knowing how defensive Arteta can be when he really needs.

Somehow Trossard gets a red card before half time and you are relieved City now has what it takes to draw the game and take the lead. Now for straight 45 minutes u will endure the torture of Arsenal blocking every shot, intercepting passes and frustrating city's attempt to wrap up the game against 10 man Arsenal. On 90 minutes u start cussing Guardiola, the players and even the referee if he fails to spot any infringement. You can literally see ur potential winning slipping off ur hands then City draws level but u played City to win. The match ends 2-2 and u let out a loud hiss. Everything go just dey vex u

How is that for leisure?

Let me tell u , people bet for two major reasons:

1. To make money which will serve as passive income if u have a job
2. To make big money cashout if u don't have a regular income and u see betting as a way to "make it"

Unfortunately, when people do critical stock taking they always discover neither of those two goals gets realized in the long run(except for a very minute lucky few)

Itsrm:
And that's the point I was making. If you treat it as leisure, have a plan, stick to it, control your emotions, you can do it without getting addicted.

BlueRayDick is saying the high that comes with winning or the impulsive need to chase losses cannot be controlled.

I disagree.

The whole Idea of going into betting is to gain by winning whether u are treating it as leisure or not. Utility is the satisfaction u derive from the purchase of goods & services. Of what use is betting and not winning? If u want to be throwing ur money away , that's definitely no fun.

Itsrm:
Dey play

You think I will waste my time with those 1.07 odds. Where do I even have the time to be accumulating 100 matches just to get 30 odds.

Minimum odd per match will be 1.50. I need the fewest matches possible.

And just to be clear, I'm not saying I will make money or I will win. There's a good possibility I'll lose all the 30k.

I'm only saying, win or lose, no matter the circumstances, I will only do it max of once a week as planned and will not return to it once the season ends.

See let's set the terms of this thing before u start.

The whole Idea is for me to prove that even if u have plans to limit ur risk to a particlular threshold every weekend, u will still arrive at a final end which is: U will lose all the money in due time. The only way not to do that is for u to quit. That is what I have been saying all these while.

Whatever financial discipline rule u may think u want to follow, I have walked that path before and I realized the only way out is to not bet at all; that's how u don't lose money in betting. That's the reason why I quit, it's not like I don't win when I was betting. I literally used betting winnings to fund my journey to NYSC back then. I don use betting money do birthday before. I've had enough motivation to keep betting, but I know it's a game u are never going to defeat the bookies in the long run.

Wheher u bet on 1.01 odds or 2.00 odds, u will still arrive at a point where u will lose all ur capital. It is just a matter of time.

Do u think people that always lament " Wetin we wan play again? we don bet play first yellow card, first throwing , goal-goal, etc and ticket still " are not risk conscious or they don't have plans? na betting chop dem turn dem to Jeremiah wey dey write lamentations o.

Theflint1:
Since he says minimum odds will be 30, anyhow he chooses to accumulate those 30 odds is fine.

Sure!

Anybody here who has witnessed Punt for fun(abi whatever they call it now) which merrybet used to sponsor on Nairaland in the past(I don't know if they still do) will know that what he's trying to do is very very difficult.

But let's see how it goes, Itsrm may be a chosen sha. I look forward to his monday updates showing us how much he deposited in his bet account over the weekend, his bet slip for the weekend and the outcome of the bets.

Theflint1:


Abeg make the odds real low, like 3 or something, no way you're accumulating 30 odds without trying very risky games. Odds of max 3, or even 2 sef, would love to see the outcome of this experiment.

But then 1K on 3 odds is basically waste of time, but since it's purely for experimental purposes, no wam.

Anybody that has played bet enough knows there's nothing like safe odds. Teams with 1.08 odds dey lose, teams with 17 odss dey win.

You should go on twitter and see people rejoicing anytime a new football season is starting; they all have the positive energy that they will win big this new season. When season ends and u ask them how many weeks they actually won in a 38 week league season, u will be surprised even the most experienced punters don't win up to 10 times in a season. Why? Simply because of upset.

All my life I've known elderly people who have been playing "pool" since the 70's/80's long before sports betting became a thing. They bet on Australian leagues and lower leagues in England. You will see those baba's in small wooden shops with white net-like curtains. Some of them are grandpas now and still play pool forecasting draws in those leagues. Those babas know teams that will play draw like the back of their hands, yet they always suffer upsets denying them millions of naira year after year. They study chats, trends and patterns yet they always fall short.

I just dey look itsrm. By the time Akhisar belediyespor beats Galatasary from nowhere, his eyes will clear

izzou:
[color=royalblue]We are not talking about a hobby here. We are talking psychology; Something that messes with your mindset and thinking

You think people who smoke can take it casually without getting addicted?

In Crypto, if you get burnt, you rest. I haven't seen anyone begging for 2k to buy shit coins

People beg for 100 naira to strike games. People get burnt in betting, and they go into debt to just bet.

You really haven't gone through this path...If you have, you'll understand the wide difference between both.[/color]

This is why I'm laughing at him. He hasn't seen things; betting dey useless person.

When I dey school, person wey contest for SUG election wey be our padi and we dey live around same hostel; we don jam severally for bet shop that year. A particular sunday we don resume to bet shop around 9.am knack games. As I go house go sleep, around 1pm I wake go back bet shop to check the progress of the games because we played all those Korea, Australia and China league wey dey start very early on the morning as part of our accumulation game. Ticket don burst since around 12 noon

This my padi came in beaming with smile hoping he had won because most of the team he played won. He forgot he carried one useless Korean team wey don chop 3-0 at home. . As he say make operator help am check ticket , na so we see one red apple.

This guy legit begged me for N100 say make he rebet , carry man city and other EPL games. Bet don chop am finish . I told him I don't have any money again except the money I want to use for food,yet he insisted I lend him. I no gree o. The funny thing is when I eventually bought food with my cash, we still chop am together and that day man city he wanted to bet on played draw which means he would still have lost the money if i had given him to bet.

Itsrm no know anything about the dangers of betting.

Itsrm:
Challenge accepted. I will update every Monday

Good! Please note that on each ticket u are expected to accumulate at least 5 games. It's not the one u will bet on just one team every weekend o.

Itsrm:
What you don't see with crypto which is the same as betting is, in both cases, the odds are heavily stacked against you.

With betting, you're betting against the bookie and with crypto, you're betting against heavy market movers.

You're betting against people who decide in one corner the direction they want the market to go and are trying to take your small 1 or 2k dollars to add to theirs.

I am not saying betting will turn anyone into a millionaire or billionaire. I don't even believe influencers like Mr banks and the likes make their money from betting

I'm only saying it can be done without getting addicted if you have control over your emotions and treat it as leisure. I know I have over mine.

😂😂😂

Dey play !

In 2014 I can’t remember the precise national team now in Europe, they played draw with one of these minow teams ; i think it was either Liechtenstein , San Marino or Andorra .

The top team had 1.01 odd to win and the minnow had 21 odds to win. A lot of people lost money because of that draw.

Upset will humble u 😂

Itsrm:
Everything you think happens with bet also happen with crypto. Infact, before now, I was totally anti betting. Then I started crypto and realised there's very little difference between them.

Infact, the only major difference is that in crypto, nothing ever completely dies especially if you stick to the majors. You don't lose until you sell. If I make a trade and the market goes against me, I simply close the app until my sell limit gets triggered when bull market returns. With betting, once the game ends, you've either won or lost. The emotions, the high, addiction and every other thing is also there in crypto.

Now you're making me want to open a bet account to prove to you it can actually be done. I will deposit 30k and bet 1k every weekend or every other weekend. I will share my PNL at the end of the season.

Only thing is, if I do, you'll say it's because I wanted to prove a point.

I would like to take u up on this challenge . Please go ahead with the bet account , deposit the 30k and share with us ur winnings and progress every Monday morning .

You will learn the lesson most people who do rollover betting challenge always learn in the long run 😎

Itsrm:
Not if you can treat it as leisure. In the spirit of disclosure, I don't bet myself. However, I have done it with crypto and believe it can be done with betting.

As long as you have control over your emotions.

The bold is the problem. You are looking at betting from an outsider's view.

I've been betting since the days of 1960bet,merrybet,nairabet and surebet (the early pioneers in the Nigerian betting sector). As much as I was a very financially disciplined person,I saw people get into serious financial mess due to betting. Some of them are brilliant people who pride themselves as having total control over their emotions and finances.

There's a kind of high betting gives people. It doesn't matter whether u have money or not, once betting hold u for blokkus u won't stop until it leads u to a dark place. Just look at Ivan Toney the footballer, despite being a millionaire in pounds sterling the betting addiction still had him messed up.

The only panacea for betting addiction is to shun betting completely.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Netflix, abeg come start series with this country[/color]

https://www.nairaland.com/8235229/repentant-boko-haram-fighters-escape

When we were standing against this so called repentant boko haram , it looked as if we were being too critical of Buhari led APC government .



Just look at.


Its only in Nigeria u will designate sect as terrorist group and then still turn back to claim some of them are repentant terrorists . 🤦‍♂️

Shegzdave:
Person wey e don better for already

Exactly ! U wey wan use N500 chop N10m go Dey cuss people wey Dey collect over £100k per week.

Itsrm:
Maybe I should add that it's not everyone who can do it.

You don't watch a cinema in the morning, pay to watch another in the afternoon and pay to watch at night.

Once you do it and you lose, that's it. The next bet can be in a week, one month or 6 month time.

With crypto for instance, the last time I bought was on the 7th of August. I have since sold and waiting for prices to fall again. I am ready to wait till December 2025 if that's how long it takes.

If prices move while I'm waiting, good luck to those who bought.

To put into perspective, some people have been waiting since 2008 for the next major financial market crash. It finally happened in 2020 twelve years later.

That is how the mindset works. Again, it's not for those who don't have control over their emotions.

Well, I don’t do crypto and don’t really much about it. But I can assure u that betting is not something u will do today wait till next week before placing another bet especially if you’ve won before .

The moment u win a bet , it changes everything , you will be thinking of ur next lucky day.

There’s also the issue of you regretting not betting on a day when almost everybody you know won their bet. The moment u experience that , u will always want to bet 😁.

Nobody sets out to be chronic gambler when they start betting , it’s the addiction that sets in and changes everything . The addiction is linked to emotions .

If I tell u some crazy experience some of my friends had while we were in school ehn…

My advise is if a student is playing it, the moment he gets a paying job no matter how small it is; just leave betting .

iamoyindamola:
Anything I can't Influence directly I can't waste my money on it
The highest I have placed on bet is 200
But if it's to play pes/efootball that one I can go as far as 5k since I know my capability
Same with football even though I have to trust my teammates somehow

Likewise myself , the only gamble I’m sure of is if I play football set which I’m a full participant . If we lose ,I know we lost to a better team not Aston Villa randomly beating Loserpool 7-2 without any red card .

Omo football beating will whine u. If u don’t know how to cuss, u will learn it involuntarily when u start betting on football leagues 😂

PDPGuy:
It’s crazy!!
Seriously, how can anyone adjust to a 5000% increase on the price of any commodity in a year

Nigerians are known to adjust to the most extreme conditions . Instead of people speaking up with one voice against the hardship , they will rather be bickering on tribal differences and other nonsensical issues .