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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:16pm On Feb 11, 2024
Below are the player ratings for each of the 7 games madrid played in the knockout stages of the 2022 UCL which madrid won as demanded by prospa.

Kindly note that not one out of the seven matches was Kroos adjudged to be one of the top three performers on the pitch. I believe at this point we can all agree that Prospa is just one of those fans who claim to know their team by mouth; the kind of people whose voices are the loudest in viewing center shouting their voice hoarse over a non-existent fact.

How can a player who is not even his own team's best midfielder be dragging with legendary status with Xavi?

1. Loserpool vs Madrid UCL 2022 final(1-0)
Madrid's Top 3 players- Courtois 9, Carvajal 8, Mendy 8, Militao 8
https://www.squawka.com/en/liverpool-0-1-real-madrid-champions-league-final-player-ratings-courtois-carvajal-alexander-arnold-alisson/


2. Madrid vs Man City 2022 semi final(3-1)
Madrid's Top 3 players- Courtois 9, Carvajal 8, Nacho 8, Mendy 8, Rodrygo 9(came on for Kroos in the 68 minutes and saved the day), Camavinga 8
https://www.squawka.com/en/real-madrid-3-1-manchester-city-player-ratings-rodrygo-courtois-benzema-grealish/


3. Man city Vs Madrid UCL 2022 Semi Final(4-3)
Madrid's Top 3 players- Benzema 8, Vinicius 7, Nacho 7, Velverde 7, Carvajal 7, Modric 7
https://www.squawka.com/en/manchester-city-4-3-real-madrid-player-ratings-de-bruyne-bernardo-silva-benzema/

4. Real Madrid vs Chelsea UCL 2022 Quarter Final(2-3)
Madrid's Top 3 Players- Carvajal 8, Alaba 8, Modric 8, Camavinga 8(Came on for Kroos in the 73 minutes and changed the game)
https://www.squawka.com/en/real-madrid-2-3-chelsea-player-ratings-5-4-aggregate-modric-benzema-mount/

5. Chelsea vs Madrid UCL 2022 Quarter Final (1-3)
Madrid's Top 3 Players- Benzema 9, Valverde 8, Modric 8, Casemiro 8, Mendy 8
https://www.squawka.com/en/chelsea-1-3-real-madrid-player-ratings-benzema-modric-mendy-rudiger/

6. PSG vs Madrid UCL 2022 Round of 16 (1-0)
Madrid's Top 3 Players- Courtois 8, Casemiro 8, Alaba 8
https://www.squawka.com/en/psg-1-0-real-madrid-player-ratings-mbappe-messi-casemiro-courtois-verratti/

7. Madrid Vs PSG UCL 2022 Round of 16(3-1)
Madrid's Top 3 Players- Benzema 9, Vinicius 8, Camavinga 8(Came in for Asensio in the 58th minute and still managed to score 8/10 while Kroos managed to score 5/10 in the same match ), Modric 8
https://www.squawka.com/en/real-madrid-3-1-psg-player-ratings-benzema-modric-vinicius-mbappe-messi/
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:01pm On Feb 11, 2024
Iamoyindamola oya comman see o.

The same company that manufactured the helicopter carrying the late Herbert Wigwe was just ordered by a US court to pay $75m to families of people who died in an earlier crash involving their copter cos the thing does not have a crash-resistant fuel system .

Like I told u earlier , in due time really get a full idea of what went down. There's no need making a survivor a suspect just cos his intuition made him refuse to fly

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:33am On Feb 11, 2024
iamoyindamola:
I have said it na
Why didn't he fly with them, his excuse of weather no go with me because I know the pilot won't go if the weather was really bad
😂😂😂

I can decide not to travel by road despite the authorities confirming there's 100% security on the road . What crime have I committed in doing so ?

U are suspecting him for telling his boss he doesn't want to fly and his boss agreed to it ?

Osinabjo nearly lost his life in a copter crash as VP . If tomorrow his son or daughter decides not to fly in any copter going forward , will us suspect him or her in a crash in the future ?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:29am On Feb 11, 2024
GloriousGbola:
People miss flights that crash all the time. There are people that missed the 911 flights. There is no mystery there.
Exactly . I'm sure the social media handler is just being professional to get full grasp of things and running it through his superiors before he release something that will cost him his job afterwards .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:25am On Feb 11, 2024
iamoyindamola:
He's my first suspect sha
Oya tell us what u are suspecting him of na grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:20am On Feb 11, 2024
GloriousGbola:
this is the PA work we were discussing the other day

gum to oga.

wigwe must have been laid back sha
Na big guy body job and I never really liked it at all. It can easily make u and easily break u in the corporate world . U have access to high and powerful people as emi oga
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:18am On Feb 11, 2024
iamoyindamola:
It happened on Friday night, we got the news yesterday
Enough time for wiwge or his family to debunk the news if they were truly alive

I didn't know the PA was onboard, what I read was with 5 people
America and Nigeria are not on the same time zone. Like I said earlier , nobody is in the US to identify everyone on board . All that was reported was that an aircraft that was supposed to have Wigwe on board crashed and the manifest showed he was onboard .


It takes hours for people to officially confirm that indeed he was onboard . It has happened before now in one of those Nigerian air crashes when some people missed the flight by chance . I think it was the air crash that involved Agagu's burial ; then the news had already filtered in that Obasanjo's son who was in the army died in the crash .

It was later confirmed he didn't board the flight .

There's nothing wrong in the social media handler taking time to confirm if their oga was indeed on the flight or not. It's no big deal as u see it
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:12am On Feb 11, 2024
iamoyindamola:
I don't know but he will be my first suspect
I can see weather condition as his excuse but the helicopter was cleared to fly
I trust oyinbo no they take risk, if the weather wasn't okay I am sure the pilot won't go
Suspect say he plant bomb on the craft or he use voodoo crash the helicopter remotely ? 😂

Just wait; in due time the Americans will confirm the cause of the crash and u won't need any of these permutations and speculations
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:10am On Feb 11, 2024
iamoyindamola:
Were you not the one praising the UK that they opened up the king have cancer
Why do we like dribbling ourselves in this country, it happened people know why did access release a bulletin not accepting or denying the situation
It's even better they didn't release anything till they get the full information this
IMO this release did more harm than good
U are not getting it.

An helicopter crash happened in the USA . The Americans that announced it only announced the crash and the manifest they have before the crash happened .

Now anything could've happened; Wigwe could as well have not been on the flight at the die minute despite his name being on the manifest . It is only normal for someone handling the social media of an organization like access holdings to confirm 100% that their oga was on the craft and died in the incident . However while waiting he didn't keep quiet , he mentioned it that they were working with the authorities in the USA to get full confirmation .

Okay look at the man's PA that has just been announced he didn't board the flight despite his name being on the manifest . I'm sure some of his family members would already be mourning before finding out he didn't board the ill-fated flight .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:05am On Feb 11, 2024
I believe this Olushola person is the luckiest person alive today 🥵

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:00am On Feb 11, 2024
iamoyindamola:
The person incharge of access SM should be fired immediately
You don't have information then why release a bulletin
To deny the news or what
Te person didn't do wrong in my opinion. He didn't deny or confirm it, he only aid they didn't have the full details .

Now that they do, the HoldCo has confirmed his death by issuing an official statement

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:03am On Feb 11, 2024
Ballzproblem2:
vini don pass hazard
Alhaji popi and associates no go like this thing wey u type so o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:15am On Feb 11, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
BlueRayDick who would you say was the best real madrid player in 2022?
Just now now u don give me 4 mentions on top 2022 champions wey u urself pick ? grin

I have only given a snippet of just 3 matches and u are already feeling jittery. The debate is ur top 3 players for the 2022 champions league season as per performance on the pitch , it's either u wait for me to post what sqwaka rate throes players per match or u post it urself . No dey ask me JAMB question after u don consent to me bringing facts
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:53am On Feb 11, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
I am not sliding Kroos Bros.
The undisputed best player for real madrid was Courtios. His performance in the UCL final cemented his place.
Every other position is up for grabs between benzema, vini, Kroos, casemiro.
I have given you bonus mentions of cama, rodrygo and fede
I have already checked the final vs Loserpool and two legged semi final vs city of that 2022 on sqwaka . Guess what ?

Kroos is not in the top 3 best performing Madrid players on the pitch of any of those most important matches .

Just wait make I dey on top system, I will open ur yansh outside that u no even sabi the Madrid wey u dey watch every week.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:41am On Feb 11, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
Name the top performers for Germany in that 2014 world cup.

You don't watch Madrid games bro, so I nor fit indulge you. Because you go run go look awards.

2022 the very top performer was Courtios. Then we have 3 spots you can share between Kroos, benzema, vini, modric and casemiro. Bonus mention goes to Camavinga, rodrygo and fede.

But the number 1 performer was Courtios
Lmao grin

Look at u sliding in Kroos like nobody will notice.

Just wait lemme get on system . I will bring link to player ratings for each of their games from group stage to final . I would like to see u wriggle out when the fact faces u in the face that Kroos is not 1-3
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:25am On Feb 11, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
I'm sorry who was our 3 best players when we won the UCL in 2022?
Who was German's top 3 best player during the 2014 world cup?
Who was our top 3 best player when we won la liga in 2019?
Who was our top 3 best player when we won la liga, UCL, super copa and cwc in 2022?

How well do you watch our games?
If I ask you yesterday who were the top 3 best players against girona, who would you mention?
I didn't watch Madrid vs Girona yesterday so I'm in no position to judge the highest performers in the game.

Shebi u are a Madrid fan , oya name the top 3 performers in the Madrid side of 2022, I want to check something .

The fact that u think Kroos was one of the top 3 performers for Germany in the 2014 World Cup shows u no know ball as much as u think u do.

PS : I am willing to bring player ratings for each games in each of the two competitions aforementioned.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:03am On Feb 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
That's why you mind who you compare players with
No matter how good Neymar is when you try to bring him and compare to Messi you will meet with ridicule
No matter how much your Range Rover dey shack you, don't bring it to a Rolls Royce
Whoever brought Kroos into a Xavi comparison obviously didn't mean well for him. He for let Kroos dey him dey. And leave Xavi alone

Kroos wey never touch Modric you dey bring Xavi

Some players are untouchables and Xavi might just be one of them.

While Xavi was the core and the engine of the finest and probably greatest football side that was ever assembled Kroos was another member of the team

When you mention that Barcelona side, after Messi next is Xavi,
That Spain side that won 3 tpurnaments in a row between 2008 and 2012, Xavi was the best player.
there is no winning side Kroos was part of that he will be among the top 3 most important probably will struggle to make top 5.
Or tell me which of the teams Kroos won with will the most biased Kroos fan name him any side where he was the best player and they won?

That three peat Madrid Ronaldo Marcelo Modric Ramos Casemiro were more important, in 2013 Bayern Neuer Lahm.Boateng Schweinsteiger Alaba Robben Muller Ribery were all more important
Actually Kroos getting injured was a blessing which enabled Bayern to adopt a more counter attacking approach from the quarter finals and win the trophy

The German team that won too, Neuer Lahm Boateng Schweinsteiger Muller were more important

By the time the core of that German team retired and it was Kroos turn to lead them it was back to back embarrassment

While Xavis career wasn't entirely great all through especially younger Kroos too had patches. He was loaned out to Leverkusen to get game time when he was young

Lesson of this is if you don't want some dragging of your fave don't enter the rings with the gods

Don't let the case of Kroos be like the Nwanza bird who ate belleful and challenged his Chi to a fight

In modern day CM, Xavi is the Chi to Kroos


When you measure greatness most are more concerned about your highs and peaks not your valleys and lows. Albert Einstein is considered the greatest scientist because of his peak not that he was considered a poor student in primary school

Mohamed Alli had lows when he lost bouts but he is still considered the heavyweight GOAT because his highs
Gbam 💯
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:49am On Feb 11, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
What is your expectation of Toni Kroos if you have him in your team?
If you are using fifa awards for Kroos then I will not argue with you because Kroos in the last couple of years doesn't even get featured on fifa because he has called them out.
Everybody knows this but it seems I will have to educate you.
See this one o; he's looking for escape route after comparing legend to regulars. So what happened to the years before he called FIFA out ?

We are still waiting for u to point out one single tournament triumph Kroos' teams had and Kroos was one of their best 3 players . We Dey wait because u need to explain to us how a player who u claim to be so good on the world scene would not even be one of his own team's top 3 players . Make it make sense na.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:44pm On Feb 10, 2024
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:22pm On Feb 10, 2024
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:54pm On Feb 10, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
How can the madrid midfielder with highest chances created not be important nau?
Which kind beer parlor talk be this 😂
Na anecdotal evidences like " highest chances created " we go chop ? Did he create the most assists in a World Cup winning team in Germany and Champions league winning team in Madrid ?

Na him be Ororo wey dey score the goals ? Na him be Ramos ?

All this ur chances created superstory, I believe none moved Ballon D'or and FIFA to place him above Kroos at any point in their respective careers. For ur information Xavi made Ballon D'or 3rd place 3 times in his career and na him gamesmanship place him there.

Like I said earlier , I just like to create argument out of thin air for fun. Xavi and Kroos were never close .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:37pm On Feb 10, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo which madrid fan nau.
You think say we dey 2014?

Go ask on twitter if argument nor go begin.
It's the same way madrid fans will tell you modric is better than iniesta.
Somebody up there has told u that the champions league winning streak of Madrid ; Kroos was not among the top 3 most important players for Madrid. As a Madrid fan u should know that is a fact !

Also, the 2014 World Cup triumph of Germany Kroos was not among the best 3 German players in that team.

That can never be Xavi either in Spain or Barca . Xavi is who everybody that watched him saw him to be. No amount of revisionism can suddenly make Kroos better than him. Na only for ur mind and few misguided Madrid fans Kroos better than Xavi
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:23pm On Feb 10, 2024
Emaprince:
Which kind argument be this? Kroos is a nobody in the world of football.

He is just decent. Nothing else. I have never seen anything special about him. Xavi is a controller. Half turns everywhere, while kroos is still turning like trailer. He cant even wriggle his way out of tight situations.
Prospa practically creates arguments out of thin air grin . That's the only explanation for comparing Xavi with Kroos . Even Madrid fans know Xavi is a midfield maestro through and through
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:09pm On Feb 10, 2024
Emaprince:
Na the son be that?

He has only two kids?
He has 4 kids
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:59pm On Feb 10, 2024
Realmrsean:
las las money no fir buy life

Shey na d wigwe wey wan float university for rivers be this
The university is already up; they will be having their first intake from this 2024 JAMB 2024 UTME/ Direct Entry .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:38pm On Feb 10, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So only that girl remain?

Kai![/color]
I read he has 4 kids; so I'm guessing he has 3 surviving children whose lives will never remain the same again .

Life will just humble u! Just last week his university made the news about their fees that are to be paid in dollars . All of that and more he has left behind. Chai!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:25pm On Feb 10, 2024
The Wigwe's 💔

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:11pm On Feb 10, 2024
Damn! I slept for a few hours and Herbert Wigwe is gone 😢😢😢.

This one pain me ! It brings memories of sosoliso air crash that had Bimbo Odukoya , the PENGASSEN chairman and those Loyola Jesuit college students on board .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:10pm On Feb 10, 2024
Emaprince:
BlueRayDick. You see what I feared the last time passengers of GIG and ABC Transport comp was kidnapped?

Passengers in a GUO bus just got kidnapped and the driver shot dead.

https://www.nairaland.com/7996577/guo-motor-attacked-passengers-kidnapped
And so it begins! U will be surprised that people will still come here and ask u if kidnapping of passengers started under Tinubu 🤷‍♂️.

This is why I have shunned road travel outside Lagos and ogun state for a long while.

When I see people travel on long distance via road I just marvel at how they do it with all the insecurity in this country
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick:
Sportsweb:
Very simple.

I know all fingers are not equal. All those things they listed there are luxuries. I know how I was raised according to the size of our coats. 600k is more than enough abeg,infact it's too big for simple family man way no send all those luxuries.

What's data for family, DStv sub and all those stuffs am seeing on the list.

My aunt and her husband combine bring in about 300k monthly, they still live in comfortable flat and also enjoy life while training their kids. They plan themselves and cut their Fine Coat according to their size jare
Mention specific items on the list aside DSTV that is a luxury for a middle class family.

For Ur information, family data is the same thing as the data u and Ur spouse use for one whole month on Ur iPhone or laptop or smart TV.

Ur aunty & husband combined income of 300k is prior to this current subsidy removal and floating of naira . No? Have u asked her for money the way u normally ask her before now? What was her response? Did she give u the same amount she usually give u?

The discussion is not about the fact that people earning below 600k today will die of hunger ; the discussion is centered on the fact that if u earn 600k or below before Tinubu's subsidy removal and floating of dollar ; u will struggle to adjust ur spending pattern without groaning.

Na from there different people just dey pick their own narrative dey run with am.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:27pm On Feb 10, 2024
iamoyindamola:
Yeah na everybody go chop breakfast
That was hit
Na episode 13-15 link I dey look for now o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:13pm On Feb 10, 2024
iamoyindamola:
Motivation speaker isonu
Once had a maths teacher that check answer at the back of new general mathematics that year to confirm he's right or wrong
I had oneteacher like that too. I for cast am that year but she was a fresh graduate who got Lagos state government teaching job and lives very close to my house while I was in SS 1. She was our maths teacher that year, but she obviously no Sabi the thing at all. She wan use assignment kill us and she dey check answer for new general maths. She always works the answer back grin

She don dey Canada now sha cos her hubby married her while he was already in Canada. She didn't do the teaching job for so long for students to cast her sha.

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