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Na ontop arsenal head VAR no dey show well . Smh

See stupid goal we concede …
Smh

Zinchencko no just sabi defend

Jodera:
Lol...
I deh imagine whether na the same Giroud wey I dey insult almost every week naim don turn effective striker for us

Someone that the team was built around him, all our focal point was on him getting chances yet na only 16 goals be him highest. Lmaooo

I don't even want to talk about his all round play, then he'll use one flick on to deceive guys In order to cover his averageness

Average must have another meaning

Dem wan whitewash image wey no exist

Raul Jimenez sef wey play for lowly Wolverhampton managed to score 17 goals in two different seasons before his injury .

Lmao

Striker wey no get shot on target at a World Cup his national team won.

Una like mediocre players sha .

Striker wey spend 6 seasons at a top club like Arsenal and never managed to score past 16 league goals in a season and u want to argue he’s not an average striker ?

raumdeuter:
You dont even need debates for all these, How can you see your people being killed and you think your body go rest unless you kind of believe they are not your people and you sef no really like them

How can you see the images shared recently and be at peace and be waiting for debates. As a governor you might even be lynched in those places if you don't take actions

Its almost like putting Jews and Arab who have for 100yrs been trying to kill each other inside one state and ask them to form vigilantes? Will the vigilante be defending Jews or the arabs

Some of the distrust from the middle belt is over decades at least I grew up early 90s hearing of Zamani Lekwot in Zango Kataf that we used to pray for in our Baptist church for his release from death penalty for daring to arm his people in Kaduna to defend against Hausa marauders

If this country will break we need over 30 splinter countries from it

A friend of mine in primary school was raised by a relative because he lost both parents to the Zango-Kataf crisis when he was a toddler.

Na why I dey vex sometimes when I see people like Elrufai in 2023 still doing everything to widen the gulf between the southern & northern Kaduna people with some of his unguarded statements.

raumdeuter:
just now a thought came to me, Ebubeagu and Amotekun are in a region where we have one ethnic group. I think those middle belt places, there are people actual indigenes whose sympathy are with either side. I mean Plateau indigenes politicians even commisioners maybe DG whose loyalty is with one side. E.g Governor is Berom, Deputy is Fulani. Speaker is Hausa, Senator is Angas etc
So within the cabinet sef, their loyalties are different

While Deputy governor is celebrating the killings of Dec 24, the Governor will be celebrating inside of him the killings of yesterday

Maybe that is where the problem lies

Take Kaduna for example, Governor from Fulani stock, Deputy Yakowa from Southern Kaduna. House of Assemble split 60-40 On those who prefer Fulani to kill everyone vs those who feel the Southern Kadunas should kill everyone

That's why at times our diversity as a people seems to be more of a curse than blessing. Some issues might be minor like a farmer who is Berom fights his Fulani neighbor whose sheep eats his seedlings and before u know it ; it will take serious ethnic coloration to become a major communal clash.

Any small matter escalates due to lack of trust on both sides of the divide.

raumdeuter:
When I saw those images from Christmas of Benue, my skin just begin crawl and that is where I give credit to Akredolu and that was what endeared Akeredolu to many Yorubas.

He might have failed in other areas of governance but he dared Buhari and the Fulanis in govt and established Amotekun, whatever constitution or legal framework that was needed was provided, Amotekun has not stopped all crisis and insecurity but it has helped some. Instead of being sitting lame ducks waiting to be picked off

I mean you will hear that marauders are coming from this place and 1hr away and you will start hiding or praying. If I ever live in Nigeria I must own guns

Some of those governors just mourn on camera, call out FG but continue to chop security vote without actually doing anything to better their lot.

This is why I think debates should be made compulsory for those seeking election into public offices like governorship and presidency. At least if there's a debate they can ask governorship candidates of troubled states like Plateau, Benue & kaduna what plans they have concerning handling the perennial ethnic/inter tribal clashes in their states.

Jodera:
Giroud won PL with who??

But then, I don't want to go to his personal achievements cos it's enviable, no doubt.

My point is... HE WAS A VERY VERY AVERAGE PLAYER FOR US.

I don't know what's hard there. Prove that he's not an average player for us and you'll be rational. You'll have a very strong point.

Stop calling me seria A, la Liga bundesliga or what not. It does not concern me cos those ones does not give me footballing joy.

How is that hard to understand?

This is the only thing that matters in this argument. Watch how he will turn amala beside the point

raumdeuter:
I asked you yesterday I will ask again

Is there a reason why there is no Amotekun type in NC

https://www.nairaland.com/7950824/where-amotekun-esn-plateau-benue#127654802

If you are worried about the legal framework just copy and paste whatever the SW did with Amotekun and SE with Ebubeagu

If its good enough for SW, then its good enough for NC

Na only their governors know wetin dem dey do o

GloriousGbola:
we are seeing the same shit with mobad - how a useless good for nothing dead beat sperm donor has come out of the woodwork and is now forming concerned dad and talking s**t about Mobad's widow

That Mohbad father ehn.... The less said about him, the better.

I read Mohbad's mum interview and the woman claimed the same thing the man is doing to Mohbad's widow & the grandchild, he did same to her when she was still with him. She said he once called Mohbad B*st*rd so she's not surprised he's doing same all over again.

Ibime:
It's a shame, everybody knows how Akeredolu trusts that woman absolutely and gave her leverage in everything. This one is not even an uncle looking to claim land and already casting aspersions on the lady.

I don't even know what people like that man stand to gain talking shiiit about someone else's spouse. If Akeredolu's wife wasn't a good woman does he think the man would've risen to the pinnacle of his career as a SAN in the first place or even become a governor sef?

There are so many people that had great potentials but their choice of spouse cut their growth short.

Itsrm:
Maybe a situation where Federal Police have some form of higher authority over state police.

So when governors attempt to abuse their powers, the federal government can always come in

The problem in this is that a governor who is let's say member of PDP will accuse a president who is APC member of using Federal Police to overrun his state police. Just look at the situation we had with Buhari v Ortom of Benue state that year.

Normally one would say the Judiciary should be in the best place to determine who has jurisdiction between Federal & state police on certain matters, but we all know what our Judiciary has become with different injunctions being obtained from different courts of coordinate jurisdiction.

E be like say Ondo state people really see shege under Akeredolu's government o. The things I dey read about pension & salaries being owed....hmmm.

But I wonder why the people of the state have been quite about it for a long time. Why the press no carry the news about situation of things in the state before now ? Did he gag the press ni ?

Ondo is an Oil producing state na

larride:
Maybe they forgot that part of their oath of office was to protect the lives and properties of the citizens of their state.

The hard conversation about policing in Nigeria will need to be discussed. We cant continue on this path. As long as the Governors can always hide behind the FG, the tendency of abdicate their own responsibilities is very high. Just collect security vote every month and flex with it.

The NPF cannot adequately police the entire country currently and alot of states are already militarized which shouldn't be so. Something has to give.

Yeah it's going to be a hard conversation.

1.State policing can help curb activities of non-state actors in parts of the sates that are not adequately policed.

2. State policing can be abused by state governors to witch-hunt their perceived enemies/members of the opposition.

There must be a middle ground somewhere somehow

larride:
Some of these Govenors are not serious jare. Nothing stop them from having a security trust fund and fully funding a unit of a police/mopol department that will be dedicated to their state.

Look at Lagos for example, Lagos has the Lagos State Security Trust fund which is used to fund the Neighborhood Corp, RRS and the likes. RRS are from the same police force but Lagos takes over their welfare and operational needs and to a very large extent the Governor has control over them. That's why you will rarely see RRS engaging in extortion and the likes that their normal police officer do.

Like you said, the Governors should put their security vote to use and protect their people while they contionously hold the FG neck to do their damn job of protecting the lives and properties of the people they swore an oath to protect.

As in.... Sometimes u can't but wonder what some of these governors have in mind before buying gubernatorial nomination form to run for governor.

I mean as a private citizen who has lived among his people and knows the problem that plagues them, it is expected that u already have plans to combat insecurity which is the biggest challenge of Plateau state considering many years of inter-ethnic crisis and tribal related killings in the state. Anybody that is not having a workable plan to combat this should even be allowed to win his party's governorship ticket.

He should have all these plans about putting his security vote/security trust fund to work even before he won the election. Now he's waiting for FG that almost all the 36 states are waiting for to help sort their respective security challenges.

He can argue that funding a unit of the police may not be enough to combat insecurity/terrorism of that scale, but there's still the need for him to fund a paramilitary unit like Amotekun that can act in intelligence gathering capacity for the police/military.

Amoto94:
He is not serious he's the Chief Security Officer of the state for crying out he should stop this blame game and spring into action to prevent continuous bloodshed.

U are partly right and he's also partly right.

He's partly right because only the police, DSS, NSCDC and other FG controlled security agencies that can actually investigate and effect arrest of suspected terrorists carrying out these killings.

You are partly right by saying he's not serious. A serious governor will do everything to protect his people even if he's incapacitated by the inaction of FG controlled security agencies. Just like Raumdeuter suggested yesterday, nothing stops Plateau & Benue state governors from floating their own state security/paramilitary agencies like Amotekun in Southwestern states. At least they get security votes which nobody knows what they use it for.

Instead of discussing with this Tinubu administration and waiting for help that may take so long to come, they can put things in place and fund their own paramilitary agency for the protection of their people.

[quote author=Amoto94 post=127661194][/quote]Well, the current governor blames Buhari administration for allowing Plataeu to be a fertile ground for terrorists to grow.

https://guardian.ng/news/plateau-attack-mutfwang-says-terrorists-occupied-schools-for-years/

The governor lamented that a lack of arrests and prosecution of armed groups makes some citizens feel their attackers are being protected.

“Under the last regime, the feeling of the people in Plateau State, particularly the victims of these terrorist attacks, is that, it looks as if the terrorists were given official government backing to be able to terrorise them because little or nothing was done to repel these attacks,” Mutfwang added.

The governor disclosed that he would engage President Bola Tinubu to give instructions to security agencies to protect the state and other parts on the country.

Iamoyindamola

This is what I was saying about that Plataeu state attacks that day. There is always attacks and reprisal attacks between the indigenes and Fulani settlers. This reprisal attack now is targeted at the Fulani's in retaliation for the Christmas attack.

https://www.nairaland.com/7951151/reprisal-attacks-plateau-very-graphic

Their leaders really need to find a workable solution to their problems, if not things will continue this way and it can only get worse

iamoyindamola:
All of a sudden partey is back in training and afcon camp opens next week 🤣🤣
Make this old man they go abeg he's paid his dues through but enough is enough
We got rice baeby

As much as I like him as a player, I think we need to let Partey go . It's frustrating seeing him play a couple of games, get injured and recover in time to go for AFCON or international break.

Make we just look for another person & buy

Theflint1:
Wife wey Akeredolu go likely don give instructions with e dying breath make she ensure she secure the bag

U get! Person wey appoint his own son as DG of a state government agency; shey na that one go come dey emote instead of asking his family to secure the bag while they can?

Theflint1:
A lot has been said about his wife's tribe before now.

Na man political detractors dey always come up with issues about the woman's tribe and her age. I don't even know why people always do that shiiit.

Kayode Fayemi's wife is older than him, Akeredolu's wife is older than him. Both of them don't have issues with that fact, but na outsiders dey always complain and make issues out of it.

DissTroy:
And here we go with the emotionality. Completely ignored the slurs other subethnicities tag on some like the Ebonyi people, Mbiase, Awara... Or why people from certain states peopled by the same tribe think themselves superior to their tribesmen based on their bio-geolocation accidents which we call "state or place of origin".

Is this the part where we do 10 pages of arguments so we can completely befuddle the viewing public and hide the points raised so far, and in the paragraph above?
Isn't that the play of women to ignore the main points while focusing on a miniscule part to emotionally blackmail? I'm immune to this.

No! When I make an argument, I only focus on the main point(s) and do not deviate or get distracted. Emotionality doesn't work with me. Stay on topic.

Ariaria Market boys in Aba are still ridiculing " Onye Abakaliki" even this minute. Same tribe. That's the point. End the subethnic prejudice so you have a united front to fight whatever intertribal prejudice there is.

But none of Okpa and Izzou made mention of Mbaise, Awara or any other word that may indicate any subethnic undertone in that their discussion that day na.

The only thing they were arguing about was whether Enugu was as developed as Okpa was claiming. As much as Okpa used to go off tangent, he didn't in any way make the argument about his subethnic group being superior to Izzou's

As an independent third party, the only thing I can deduce was that argument that day was that Okpa is willing to keep aside his support for Obi at the Federal level to defend his home state Enugu.

iamoyindamola:
Actually till today I never knew his wife wasn't a yoruba woman until prosper brought it here


Do you remember the killings in one church in ondo, any idea if the police arrest the culprits?

I came across this video and I remembered the ondo stuff

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7299348838052007174/
This guy is too calm maybe a scripted video

It was when he first contested I knew the wife isn't Yoruba and that she is older than him by at least 3 years.

I despise people like the guy in that video because they come with all sorts of bulllshitt when a person dies; bullshittts they can't say while the person is alive. Akeredolu has been married to the woman for over 30 years and they've enjoyed a fruitful and happy union even while he was in private practice. He has never for once made any statement that suggests the woman is taking advantage of him.

Now the man has blood cancer that took his life and a random nobody is spilling conspiracy theory about the woman being opportunistic and all sort of gibberish. If the woman believed in prayer, the man will most probably still die all the same. I remember Fayose's sister who is a strong believer who had breast cancer that year, she died eventually. The woman even celebrated her own death before she died eventually .(It was in Tribune newspaper that year)

A regards the Owo church attack confessional video, the thing looks suspicious and scripted

iamoyindamola:
Where did he ever mention the tribe of the woman
Una no they tire for this stupid gaslighting and tribal wars plus giving relevant to stupid people
The werey was just talking here and there with no proof
Them say, I heard ....

It's getting tiring abeg make una stop jare
The truth is he died of cancer same way I don't believe in JuJu is the same way I don't believe in miracles and prayers if not the super eagles should have won the world cup Taytay

To be fair , at a point the fooolish man in the video said something like “ there’s no way a Yoruba wife would leave her husband to be dying abroad and be in Akure trying to amass wealth “…… But still I agree with u that people should stop giving fooolish people like the man in the video attention .

Till now I don’t even know who the man in the video is and what he does for a living . Na Twitter people wey give am attention brought him to our consciousness .

Come to think of it , all the 3 names of Lucky Orimisan Aiyedatiwa seem to be poetic .

We all know what lucky means because it is an English word .

Orimisan roughly translates to “I am fortunate “

Aiyedatiwa roughly translates to “ The world is now ours “

Let’s wait and see how he will better the lot of his Ondo people now that the governance of the state fell on his lap with little or no effort .

[quote author=liveLongNprospa post=127656953]Oh look at that, the wife being igbo is suddenly the problem.
Lmao this stuff is becoming mainstream.

Listen to Jimi Adekanle as he narrated the last few days of Late Governor Akeredolu💔and the role of Betty the former First Lady of Ondo State. pic.twitter.com/pOFaOSY6A9

— Olóyè T.D Esq (@BolanleCole) December 27, 2023

guys need to stop making fooolish people famous . The person in that video is an educated bigot talking about things he had little or no idea of.

Was Dan Baba Suntai’s wife also Igbo when her husband was incapacitated but she kept up with the political game as long as she could ?

Was Turai Yar Adua also Igbo when she did everything possible to put up a show as long as possible after her husband was incapacitated ?

If Betty Akeredolu says she doesn’t believe in prayers , it’s definitely because she’s a realist . She knows u don’t pray away Leukemia that has entered critical stage before detection .

Funny enough the fooolish guy standing in front of ring light making videos about Akeredolu May have prostate cancer and he doesn’t know yet because he hasn’t gone for checks . He doesn’t even know how his own wife will react to secure the bag despite his wife being Yoruba .

Like I said earlier , stop making foolish people famous .

Ibime:
Dey play. The wife was behind it. She even went to Betty Akeredolu who took her case up and even deployed her press men to write about the matter


https://www.nairaland.com/7718596/domestic-violence-ondo-deputy-govs

Na wa o, I no know say e reach this level .

Na make she just divorce him and go back to the UK then; cos the man now has executive power and can do/undo in Nigerian settings

Ibime:
Wife of Lucky Aiyedatiwa must be in mourning today

She ran to Akeredolu wife earlier in the year alleging that Lucky has been beating her. Akeredolu wife took up the matter on her behalf. Now she has to tuck her tail in as na her husband be baba today

It was actually a woman rights group that accused him of beating his wife and he denied it claiming it was the figment of their imagination. They claimed he beats his wife but he denied t and the wife never came it publicly to accuse him herself .

I think the wife resides in the UK sef , she’s not based in Nigeria . I guess that was why nothing really came out of the accusation .

germaphobe:
He even made reference to Rodrigo growing but Saka and Martinelli ain't. Na him understand the type of growth and development he wants to see to believe. Martinelli Haven't been up with goals compared to last season, but how he plays have changed, but I think being always isolated on that wing is affecting his game(and his village people dey enter him head steady to Bleep up on final decision), last season xhaka was always with him, but now Havertz plays his own game. And I don't think anyone can say Saka Haven't been prolific this season.

Most likely he just doesn’t like those players . If u go to Chelsea thread u will see people coveting those same 3 players he’s denigrating .

Even pundits who are fans of other clubs can’t hide their admiration for those players . It’s only a person who don’t know ball that will leave assists and goals and say he’s looking for one personal attribute to judge an attacker .

Hausa:
High technical football IQ.
I'm glad you mentioned this.

That right there is lacking in Odegaard, Saka and Martinelli.

How do u measure “High technical football IQ ? “ . What metrics is acceptable to u for a player to be regarded as highly technical ?

Let’s start from there

Hleb, Nasri and Song grow but Saka ,Martinelli and Odegaard no grow

Just dey play!

Just say u don't like young players doing great for the club under a young manager and we will all understand. Except u know more than English national team, Brazil national team, Norwegian national team, the EPL and everybody within and outside the club that has appreciated the talent and professionalism of those young boys doing exploit not only at club level but at national team level.