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Ladyhippolyta88:
I have been on NL or don't you see my comments?What kind of question is this?

It is not possible for me to miss my Queen's comments.

It must be the elections. They have made me blind to many other affairs of life.

Forgive me, my goddess.

Gabriel004:
She will even suck his dog's dick. No be osu woman again

Don't mind the pretender.

MrPRevailer:
In the days of the apostles, Peter and Paul were the heads overseeing the affairs of the church. Tell me according to your own version of one church, who is the head of the church now?

The churches were headed by councils of elders.


Paul and Barnabas appointed elders for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, committed them to the Lord, in whom they had put their trust. (Acts 14:23)


Christ is still the head of the church


Christ is the head of the church, which is his body. He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So he is first in everything (Colossians 1:18)

nograv:
I have tried to be reasonable with you.

Your last post was all over the place..

You sir are the exact reason why Nigeria looks the way it does.

You havent addressed any of my points yet you think we are debating?

You state I dont understand why nations borrow, without giving your own explanation of why they do..

You moan about moving goal posts and now you are talking about China and Japan

You are a par excellence example of the product of a failed system..

You arent educated, yet you weigh in on subjects that you dont have a good grasp of..

I wont bother responding anymore. You have exhausted my patience..

I decided to play your game.

You said Nigeria oughtn't be borrowing money if only she managed her resources very well.

So, I told you that if it were that straightforward, Japan wouldn't need to be borrowing as well since we all know Japan fares better on the corruption index than Nigeria.

MrPRevailer:
Also the holyspirit gives different gift to members of the body of Christ to minister to one another for the edifying of the church.

https://biblehub.com/ephesians/4-11.htm

https://biblehub.com/romans/12-6.htm

https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/12-28.htm


"17If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him"


Church is headed by a Pastor/Overseer. The contrast between Church doctrines can range from slight to wide margin. Because people(Pastors) read the Bible and understand it differently, are motivated differently (Money, fame, Spirit-filled) and therefore they lead differently.
Some teach it's ok to practise this or that, some others teach it is contrary to God's word.

That's why the bible said
"Be not deceived, for because of this comes the wrath of God on the chidren of disobedience".


There are so many churches. A believer should pray to God to lead him to the right church. He also needs to be Scripture-wise to discern deception from any church leader. (Such as 100% focus on prosperity gospel instead of Holiness)

The reasons you have given are carnal influenced.

You are making a case for division embodied by countless Christian denominations.

Division arose even in the Early Church but Paul was quick to crush it.

When one of you says, "I am a follower of Paul," and another says, "I follow Apollos," aren't you acting just like people of the world? (1 Corinthians 3:4)

That would have been the beginning of denominations (divisions) but Paul condemned it outrightly.

There is only one Church, one body of Christians and one teaching.

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse! (Galatians 1:8 )

Why should doctrines differ within a body? Why are you labeled a Chosen?

nograv:
No I am asking you these questions, in an effort to get you to understand why your thinking is wrong.

That sadly has proven beyond your ability..

I realise you are unfortunately not very bright, yet you think that you are..

You obviously dont know anything about credit rating agencies like Moodys, Fitch and Standard and Poors. Nor do you understand their function, that much is clear...

You also do not understand how a credit rating for a nation is derived. You do not understand a credit rating can apply to a person and a nation.

UK S&P rating AA
US S&P rating AA+
Nigeria S&P rating B

Source TradingEconomics.com

This means that Nigeria needs pay more in terms of interest rates to borrow. Another reason why we shouldnt borrow unless we have exhausted all other options.

Also a lower credit rating means that external bodies view Nigeria as less credit worthy than the UK or US (despite their large debts). Why? because investors are correct in knowing that the US and UK are less likely to default due to their stronger and more developed economies amongst other factors..

Finally you do understand that oil exports earn money be it indirectly via taxes and duty?

Or if Nigeria had a state owned oil producer like Malaysian Petronas it would make money directly from oil sales?

Nigeria makes billions from oil sales from per annum. That money does not fill national coffers due to economic mismanagement and corruption. The last estimate I saw in London revealed that 1 trillion USD of revenue had slipped through government hands since independence with little or nothing to show for it.

With 1 trillion USD in revenue from Oil alone, excluding other tax paying commercial industries you SHOULDNT NEED TO BORROW!!! NO IFS NO BUTS JUST NO..

Bros, I am actually British Nigerian and I work in investment banking in London. I do this for a living and I am respected in my field..

I am doing my best not to abuse you, as a people we can only move forward if we learn to work together..

But you are trying my patience.. You dont know how to discuss complex issues and yet proudly state case closed when you havent made a valid point..

OK, let us expose your stupidity once and for all, Oga British Nigerian

Supposing we had combated corruption and become as industrialized as Japan, we wouldn't need to borrow, not so, Oga British Nigerian?

But how come Japan and China (with her zero tolerance for corruption) are still borrowing.

You don't understand why countries borrow, so just shut up instead of getting yourself into messier and much more needlessly complicated matters of misappropriation.

Supposing our revenue inflows are perfectly and transparently managed, we would be like Japan, at best. But Japan still borrows. So, what is your point?

You think we can avoid debts if we put our house in order but how can you explain Japan borrowing?

MrPRevailer:
Were Paul, Peter and the apostles not men? We're they angels? Lol
The church at Corinthians, Ephesus etc were all man-made churches. They weren't imported from heaven.

We gather in the Church to be ministered and nurtured by the word of God through an anointed vessel/leader. There must be leaders in the church. These verses are an admonition to the leaders and the flock.

https://biblehub.com/hebrews/13-17.htm

https://biblehub.com/1_timothy/3-1.htm

https://biblehub.com/kjv/acts/20-28.htm

https://biblehub.com/1_peter/5-2.htm

That was why I wrote earlier that planting a church is different from establishing a church

The Church has been established. You can plant the church everywhere but you are not allowed to establish other churches.

Answer this question, is your church the same body as Winners Chapel?

You mentioned that you gather to be nurtured by an anointed vessel/leader. Does this mean you are not anointed yourself

sinaj:
While other men find it sexy when their wife wear mini skirt without pant while doing house chores

One man meat is another poison indeed

The news says she was cleaning the passage

It appears like a Face-Me-I-Face-You house. She was outside their room probably entertaining some pervert neighbors from one or many of the other rooms.

nograv:
I am done here..

I have already made points which you have ignored because you probably did not understand them...

You havent exposed anything..

I will ask you again why does Nigeria have a lower credit rating than US or UK?

Why is credit cheaper for the latter countries than Nigeria?

With significant export earnings from the sale of oil, why does Nigeria need to borrow at all?

Stating that the US or UK has significant debt is not an argument. Especially given that they are developed countries with diversified economies that still show strong overall economic growth. That growth plays into credit ratings and a lower cost of borrowing for these countries.

If you can address the above questions then we can continue. Otherwise I cannot continue to argue with someone who doesnt seem to grasp basic economic concepts..


Have a good day..

You are being very insincere. You goofed by wondering why Nigeria was in debt.

Why would anyone wonder why a country was in debt. Instead of trying to play smart with me, why not explain what made you to be surprised that Nigeria was ever in debt? You were thinking of national debt as something individual. That was why you were wondering why Nigeria was making so much and yet borrowing.

The truth is that you have no idea why countries borrow. Case closed.

joeytrib:
This would be a fight to watch! Two equally great fighters

My money is on Anthony Joshua sha

Nothing great about Miller. The only thing I like about him are his trash talks.

Joshua would KO him.

oilPUSSY:
Why not kiss his mouth Aunty Remi ? .. Smart woman.

Swear that you won't kiss his mouth if you get the chance

Swear!!!

[quote author=Ladyhippolyta88 post=75724713][/quote]My Queen Where have you been?

nograv:
National Debt is economics..

I noticed you have avoided my main points altogether..

Two posts and you have managed to say nothing...

Finally credit ratings and ability to pay your debt has nothing to do with it being written off..

You along with the other poster make me lose heart with Nigeria. You will argue until you cant draw anymore breath even when you are wrong and dont know enough about the subject matter...

Bros go back to school..

Nawa for you o.

You ignorantly wrote that Nigeria was earning a lot and oughtn't be owing. This passed you off as someone who knew virtually nothing about national debts. I informed you that even the United States and the United Kingdom were owing as well.

Every other thing you have been writing since then means nothing to me since your first post already exposed your limited knowledge of national debt.

If you want to expand the argument, then you should explain why you made your first post that Nigeria shouldn't be owing because of her huge revenue inflow from oil.

Women will abuse this law. Rather than create a wonderful society, this law would worsen it.

Women cannot be trusted with so much privileges.

Why can't we just criminalize domestic violence rather than focusing on men?

Countries with laws like this have witnessed an increase in women violence against men.

ojuu4u:
Drug peddling/baby factories

Yes, bro, I was stating the major crime known to each major tribe in Nigeria.

Even crime is based on ethnicity in my country.

Yahoo Yahoo = Yoruba

Drug peddling = Igbo

Terrorism = Hausa/ Fulani.

Slynation:
I think u missing something here....
I'm only voting Atiku because he's a better man for the Job than the lifeless dullard sitting at Aso-rock without awareness or even knowing fully well he's the President of the most populated black Nation in Africa....

You people claim Atiku has not been tested but yet you still claim he is better than Buhari.

On what basis, please?

Can something untested be praised as better than something already tested?

The heart of man is desperately wicked.

Jman06:
You have no conscience at all! That is why you support this devilish government.

Personally, I won't suffer more than you if Buhari succeeds in rigging himself back into power, but I feel for the rest of Nigerian youths who would be put through another 4yrs of hardship!

I have conscience!

Tell that to ex workers of the Nigerian Airways who have received some of their entitlements after 15 years when Atiku and his boss took their jobs from them.

nograv:
What is your level of education? Because you do understand the macro economic profile of country including its productive industries plays a huge part in its credit rating and cost of borrowing?

Please tell me why does Nigeria have a worse credit rating than the US? Why is debt cheaper for the US?

Economic growth is a key factor is determining a nation’s credit rating, this is based on the performance of industry in that country. America has some world leading companies driving economic growth. This factor is very much part of the conversation on debt and credit ratings...

Mtchew Nigerians my people their own worst enemies...

Here was your first reaction to the topic:

How can Nigeria a country thats earns 10s of billions a year from oil sales be in debt at all?

This was the post I reacted to by informing you that even the United States and the United Kingdom owed debts.

You immediately went on to start shifting the goalpost.

If you wanted to discuss economics, you shouldn't have started with that ignorant post.

nograv:
See the post I wrote to bluntboy

re supposedly changing the subject

Bro, your original post showed that you were wondering why Nigeria earned so much and is still in debts and I quoted you to let you know that even high earners like the United States and the United Kingdom owe debts as well. As a matter of fact, even the United States owe China a substantial debt.

The argument is not about which country has a better chance of cancelling her debts.

Don't shift the goalpost any further. It would amount to a waste of our time.

Olawalesmarter:
China doesn't owe USA any money, In fact Experts have said China can crash USA economy if they wanted to

I wrote that I didn't know who they are owing.

However, they are also in debts too. In fact, they are huge debtors like USA and the UK.

SouthEastFacts:
Bolaji Tinubu

Thief Obanikoro

Thief Gandollar

Thief Osinbanjo (5.8 Billion NEMA loot)

Thief Olemole

Thief OUK

Thief Amechi

Thief Sylva

Thief Babachir

Thief Indimi (Thief Buhari's in-law)

Thief Omisore

Thief Hope Uzodimma

Thief Akpabio

Thief Uche Ogar (EFCC pursue this one enter APC)

Thief Udughan

Thief Ndume

Thief Fashola (78M website)

Thief Ken Nnamani

Thief Masari

Thief Yahaya Bello

Thief Shekarau

Thief Dariye

Thief Lalong

APC is a sanctuary of thieves. I

Omisore is now APC?

Obanikoro is still under investigation as a prosecution witness.

Dariye is still in jail.

What do you have against Lalong?

What do you have against Ndume?

What do you have against Shekarau?

Ganduje has immunity as governor just like Buhari said.

Too many unconfirmed lies in such a short post. No one should ever take you seriously.

Or if they must, they should ask you why Atiku is romping with characters like Obasanjo, Saraki, Goodluck Jonathan, etcetera.

SouthEastFacts:
What about those thieves currently in asylum in APC?
Buhari is a fraud.

Thieves like?

gentlegenius:
Unlike other cowards who travel out to stay overseas until election is over, Reno is brave enough to return to his country to join us in demolishing the expired property marked 'X' below...

You think he is doing it for you? He is doing it for himself. Wait till Atiku loses and you will see him run away again.

SouthEastFacts:
Where are those afonja moslems that said he will not enter Nigeria?

It seems Yoruba Christians are not coward like their moslems brothers.

He will run away again when Buhari wins.

This is exactly what would happen if Atiku wins (God forbid), thieves who have sought asylum overseas would start running back to resume the plundering of our commonwealth.

Some Nigerians would be reacting without using their brains.

Trump is an old man but he is not presiding over a country with one of the youngest youth populations in the world.

However, it is a shame that we have the youngest youth population in Africa and yet the two main contenders are old men.

Anyway, I remain for Buhari.

4+4 = 2023

amyblessed:
Armed robbers while recounting their ordeal after a robbery will say "Thank God those policemen could not catch us". "Do you know they almost caught us?"
A fornicator after waiting anxiously for fear of being pregnant, and discovers she's not pregnant will say "Thank God for that pill I took, if not..." or after an abortion will still say "Thank God this abortion was successful"
A thief after escaping will say " Ah...Thank God, that man almost caught me o!"
A cheat in the exam hall after the exam will heave a sigh of relief, "Thank God that lecturer did not see this piece of paper that time, he almost saw it".
These are just but a few of what people do and say 'thank God' that nobody saw them or that they were able to escape without being caught, or that the consequences of that thing as expected did not happen to them. What are they actually thanking God for? For helping them escape the punishment for their sin. But they forgot that if they escape the punishment of men, there's no way of escaping God's punishment which is more severe than the punishment of man, except they repent.
Eccl 12:14 "For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil".

Brief but powerful message to the world. God bless you, amyblessed.

JasonScolari:
If only you can just pass this message across to some aggressive APC members headed by the "Body Bag" governor, Nasir El-Rufai.

Your boys here still exhibits some level of bad blood and intolerance in this section, you know them, caution them.

One Love Bro.

Why are you pointing fingers? This are pictures that call for sober reflection, and you still decide to draw APC into a duel on this page.

I will advise all APC supporters to ignore the antics of this fellow to turn this thread into a war. Vote, don't fight.

4+4 = 2023

MrPRevailer:
This is the entire and we are expecting the return of Jesus any moment from now. So this scripture appears more critical than ever before.

Also it is not just an advice. It is MANDATORY. that is why he said "like is the manner of some" (example: Bluntboy).

I also want to include that because a church bears a name does make it unbiblical. What a way to demonstrate negligence of the word of God and requirement to Heaven. What matters is that Church preaches and adheres to the full standards of worship and service/righteousness to God according to Scriptures.

Read Revelation Chapter 2 and 3
Jesus sent warning/letter to the Churches at Ephesus, pergamum, Thyatira etc not to a brother or disciple.

There was a town hall meeting we used to have while I was an undergraduate. We were advised never to miss it because it was our only chance of having a say in student affairs. Does this mean the town hall meeting was mandatory or advisory? Would the town hall meeting increase our GP? Of course not. But it gave us a voice. The same was for the meeting of the Early believers. Their faith was still young and they were prone to the antics of false teachings, hence the need to meet regularly to reinforce their faith. It is like learning a new language. You need to reinforce your learning every day, if not you would fail. Today, many of you ought to be already strong but your decisions to remain disciples to another man for as long as you live is the reason why you may not attain spiritual maturity. The case of the Early believers is totally different from the case of today's Christians. The Bible had not proliferated in those days coupled with the fact that Christ promised to come in that generation, meeting regularly was a priority.

Your second paragraph shows that you have not been reading my post fully. I wrote that it is not because churches of today have names but because they were established by men. The need for a label is made more sacrosanct by the fact that each church is man-made and belongs to a man or men.

Answer an honest question: why do you gather as a church?

Josh44s:
Who China and Japan come dey owe

I don't know. But they are big debtors too just like the United States and United Kingdom.