₦airaland Forum

Effiongdbest:
Nigerians have looked back these 4 years and what we have seen is only total darkness and misery. Life has been so miserable within just 4 years of only one man Buhari, is it the herdsmen killings, bokoharam killings, disunity, nepotism, python dance on armless protesters, Shitte Muslims killings, Poverty capital of the world, what have we not seen withing just 4 years of this man Buhari, what??.

Anyone thinking of voting Buhari again may all these calamity listed above follow your immediate family from generation to generation, non shall escape it till eternity. Amen

Atiku Abubakar and Peter Obi all the way..

Mynd44, please, do something about this guy.

He is threatening voters with curses. What he is doing is tantamount to saying vote for Atiku or die

We don't need posts like this at this stage of our democracy.

Anyone who thinks Atiku is a better candidate should be willing to convince those who think otherwise, rather than emotionally blackmailing them.

zicoraads:
I wholeheartedly support dealing with ballot box snatchers. But when a president says 'It will be their end', and in a country with trigger happy security operatives, I am afraid for what his statement will be interpreted as from these our security men who are always ready to shoot.

Below were his words:

“Anybody who decides to snatch ballot boxes or lead thugs to disturb the process, may be that will be the last unlawful action you will take.

Mark the words maybe and the last unlawful action you will take

It is not as certain as it will be their end which has somehow found a way into many people's versions of the harmless, but yet firm speech.

When criminals go into a battle with crime fighters, there are always three outcomes.

1. The criminal escapes.

2. The criminal is arrested

3. The criminal is killed.

The president said maybe

Anyone who snatches ballot boxes may never get to do it again if he is so unfortunate as to get killed.

This Bewaji is a coward.

The person you are fighting challenged you to a physical combat, you declined. But you want to continue fighting on the internet.

You call her a low life for wanting a physical fight, but you are here fighting on the internet.

If she is a low life for wanting to settle scores with fists, then what are you for fighting her on the internet? Cowardly hypocrite!!!

Effiongdbest:
Nigerians have looked back these 4 years and what we have seen is only total darkness and misery. Life has been so miserable within just 4 years of only one man Buhari, is it the herdsmen killings, bokoharam killings, disunity, nepotism, python dance on armless protesters, Shitte Muslims killings, Poverty capital of the world, what have we not seen withing just 4 years of this man Buhari, what??.

Anyone thinking of voting Buhari again may all these calamity listed above follow your immediate family from generation to generation, non shall escape it till eternity. Amen

Atiku Abubakar and Peter Obi all the way..

Shut up, my friend. Why are you cursing?

I have noticed that you PDP are very intolerant.

Campaign for your man and leave Buhari and his supporters alone.

zicoraads:
Supposedly educated Nigerians supporting extra judicial killings?!

Forgetting that maybe, just maybe, an overzealous policeman will rain bullets, and the bullets will somehow hit an innocent passerby, who may be them, or even their relation?!

Why are people this foolish?!

He said maybe. Maybe means if you do anyhow, you see anyhow. It might be arrest, it might be death, depending on the situation.

There is nothing in the president's speech that suggests a fire at sight order as some mischievous elements have been peddling around.

Death sometimes happen when law enforcement agents combat crime.

DimIsaac10:
Its only APC mbok...

OK o. Go and snatch ballot box on Saturday.

Aja to ba ma sonu, ko ni gbo fere ode.

aariwa:
And it sounds right to you that American justice system left off the hook an accomplice to a crime?Was Atiku uncovered by the undercover agent?

My post was specifically directed at another post.

To have a grasp of my post, read the post that it was directed at.

Jman06:
Crude oil prizes were lower during Obasanjo's administration.

Standard of living was much better under Obasanjo's government than what now have.
Telecommunication became popular under that government with many people gaining employment from that sector.

The fact that they came in after the periods of military dictatorship is even enough reason to cut them some slack, Buhari's government didn't succeed a military government but inherited a thriving economy only to end up killing it.

Below is a chart showing cost of crude oil during the two administrations. Compare and contrast:




Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1973 7.46 9.01 10.71
1974 13.67 13.96 14.36 14.20 14.02 13.93 12.87 12.86 12.35 12.32 11.97 12.33
1975 12.28 12.41 12.18 12.14 12.28 12.56 12.47 12.45 12.83 13.39 13.45 13.55
1976 13.57 13.31 13.68 13.64 13.69 13.80 13.88 13.92 13.84 14.01 13.99 14.16
1977 14.98 15.20 15.24 15.42 15.48 15.39 15.40 15.32 15.32 15.34 15.26 15.19
1978 14.95 14.91 14.89 14.67 14.74 14.61 14.64 14.59 14.78 15.03 15.08 15.32
1979 16.02 16.22 16.33 19.30 20.93 23.40 25.82 26.69 27.01 26.73 29.34 31.11
1980 33.07 35.66 36.63 37.24 37.96 38.08 38.82 37.80 37.68 37.88 37.92 38.33
1981 41.45 41.58 40.99 40.97 40.18 40.08 40.27 39.00 37.29 36.71 37.62 37.68
1982 37.25 37.18 35.87 34.84 35.95 36.02 36.19 36.04 35.69 36.16 36.09 34.65
1983 W 32.24 30.55 30.63 30.75 30.56 30.91 31.25 30.70 31.16 31.02 30.57
1984 30.62 31.29 30.93 31.08 30.96 30.77 30.07 29.99 30.50 29.35 29.45 28.20
1985 28.70 28.55 29.42 28.99 28.73 27.81 28.56 28.54 28.76 29.06 29.61 30.38
1986 27.73 21.18 16.44 15.02 14.22 13.95 12.11 12.29 14.11 14.64 14.64 15.56
1987 18.02 18.54 18.30 18.96 19.29 19.54 19.95 20.63 19.38 19.45 19.44 18.50
1988 17.91 16.59 16.47 16.88 17.00 16.59 15.68 15.55 14.49 14.32 14.49 16.31
1989 17.54 18.19 19.32 20.53 19.65 18.90 18.68 18.01 18.72 19.82 20.14 20.98
1990 22.36 21.46 19.69 18.06 17.53 16.62 18.04 26.71 33.41 37.72 34.55 30.45
1991 26.00 21.66 20.60 20.31 20.50 19.79 20.73 21.29 22.13 23.68 22.71 19.96
1992 19.34 19.10 19.05 20.32 21.25 22.11 21.49 21.05 21.57 21.60 20.79 19.32
1993 18.94 19.92 20.25 20.18 19.83 18.94 18.31 18.10 17.65 17.98 16.72 15.09
1994 15.76 14.68 15.13 16.46 17.36 18.21 18.74 17.78 17.39 17.85 18.04 17.24
1995 17.64 18.24 18.13 19.82 19.45 18.74 17.29 17.39 17.86 17.49 17.98 19.10
1996 19.65 19.47 21.25 22.32 21.17 20.11 20.85 21.95 23.40 25.57 25.19 25.42
1997 24.67 23.26 20.58 19.27 19.87 19.57 20.02 20.01 20.35 21.14 20.55 19.03
1998 16.98 15.30 14.71 14.67 14.91 13.31 12.88 13.20 14.60 13.97 12.03 11.21
1999 11.32 11.21 13.98 15.72 16.27 16.80 19.16 20.84 23.01 23.30 25.02 26.92
2000 26.99 29.05 29.04 25.78 27.93 31.06 31.14 31.59 32.63 33.10 34.02 27.77
2001 28.37 28.75 27.40 27.01 29.33 29.31 26.68 27.01 26.45 22.34 20.41 19.98
2002 20.41 21.57 24.33 26.47 26.56 25.55 26.89 27.75 29.44 28.59 26.53 30.58
2003 33.40 35.65 34.29 29.54 28.33 29.49 30.40 31.10 29.12 30.38 31.45 32.51
2004 33.67 35.09 36.06 36.68 39.33 38.05 41.00 44.74 46.53 51.85 47.64 43.88
2005 46.53 49.97 55.46 53.61 51.32 57.67 60.86 67.35 65.20 62.35 59.34 62.07
2006 65.91 63.03 67.04 73.72 72.93 72.70 77.43 74.94 65.21 60.90 62.88 63.94
2007 58.55 61.16 66.47 71.15 72.99 77.15 80.84 76.67 81.96 90.13 95.54 97.88
2008 97.03 101.23 109.73 117.83 130.89 142.66 137.22 123.02 98.82 72.38 55.13 47.15
2009 48.98 47.00 53.02 59.03 63.48 69.29 71.46 73.94 71.98 77.72 79.00 78.63
2010 78.62 79.25 83.68 86.65 76.90 78.14 81.07 79.15 81.58 86.01 89.15 95.44
2011 101.24 109.61 117.17 126.47 119.95 120.81 121.80 115.83 117.19 116.09 117.05 117.10
2012 115.41 126.42 130.46 124.06 113.89 103.24 106.95 114.51 114.95 117.03 112.41 114.52
2013 120.99 117.89 113.36 106.07 108.12 108.38 W 114.47 115.21 W W
2014 W W W W W W W
2015 W W W W W W W W W W
2016 W 39.44 42.86 W W 51.05 48.46 50.20 49.91 W 52.80 55.62
2017 54.74 54.42 W W 51.83 50.36 50.89 53.18 57.99 59.35 64.27 67.20
2018 69.15 69.60 70.59 W 79.38

It is rather laughable that only you thought that Buhari inherited a thriving economy. An economy that was already borrowing to pay salaries. An economy that experts like the Economist had passed a vote of no confidence on, including writing a letter of warning to GEJ to tackle corruption and embrace saving while fast tracking diversification to avoid a horrible recession.

As per the Obasanjo administration, it had the opportunity to transform Nigeria and put it on the right track. First of all, it brought back massive foreign interest for the simple fact it was a return to democracy after close to two decades of military rule. It is therefore understandable that progress was recorded.

But that is not enough reason to think of that administration as something of positive remark. It had 8 years, it had renewed international relationship, it had immense citizenry support, and it failed.

It had the opportunity to rewrite history, but it enshrined corruption, money laundering and a height of dictatorship reminiscent of the military era. There was no sincere effort to build the universities which had been set on a declining course. Rather, the Number One and Two men built their own universities. The Number One man would later erect a Library edifice to his own name.

It would be in record that that administration created the huge social class dichotomy bedeviling Nigeria till this day. It created a few billionaires and millions of poor people.

Atiku had his chance. He messed it up.

Jman06:
Check the funding of universities before 1999 and compare to what Obasanjo's government invested in the universities. I'm not implying that they did excellently in terms funding the universities then, but they tried compared to what they met on ground. Talking about economy, things were relatively better then in terms of standard of living than what we have.

1$ exchanged for around #160 then and prizes of essential commodities were not as bad as what we have today. Many power plants were built then and businesses were thriving. What exactly has Buhari achieved?? Nothing other than unleashing poverty and deaths on the land

And how were things when they left? How many industrial actions were called against them from all sectors of the society?

And remember that before Obasanjo came on board, Nigeria was under a dictatorship and faced many sanctions, many of which had a toll on our economy generally. So, it is understandable if there was marked progress from the days of ignominy under IBB and Abacha. This doesn't translate to that administration being better than this one led by Buhari, considering the problems of terrorism coupled with slump in oil price that Buhari had to deal with.

chrisdstar:
Ok what then is Tinubu saying, in his (Buhari) own words, he has advised the military to be ruthless and anyone caught snatching ballot box,that will be the last unlawful act he'll take part in,in other words Buhari have ordered a shot on sight or endorsed extra judicial killing of suspects. May God save us all.

He said maybe

And why are you asking God to save you? Do you intend snatching ballot boxes on that day?

idid:
They will not agree that Atiku was incompetent and was a thief...

They are dishonest people. This same Atiku lied over a simple call. How can they trust a man who lied over a simple telephone call?

He lied that he called the widow of a slain officer to prove that he is a kindhearted man.

Jman06:
So VP is the one in charge of government

He was in charge of the economy. As chairman of privatization, he and his boss crippled our universities to float theirs among other private universities with exorbitant fees.

Adamawa is so worse off that Atiku is one of only two major employers in that state.

Jman06:
My fellow countrymen! Let us avoid parochial sentiments and give Atiku a chance to better this country for us all.

Just reason and ask yourself whether it is proper to vote Buhari who has clearly failed this country! Borrow yourselves brain and think!

A booming economy will rub off on everybody and we'll all be happy. Your region
having the VP position will not improve your lives in anyway! Osibanjo does not even know you!
You spent many years in the higher institution and graduated and all you could get is 30k Npower! In a country where prizes of essential commodities have tripled from what it used to be, what can 30k Npower do for you?? Is that what will establish you and enable you get married and fend for your family
A thriving economy will create jobs that can pay you better and also create a more conducive environment to do business. Reason properly brothers and sisters!

Why would anybody vote for Buhari because of Osibanjo??
Osibanjo failed to condemn the wanton killing of innocent Nigerians in the middle belt and some parts of Northeast, yet he's a pastor!
Herdsmen have taken over people's farmlands in my village and other villages in Nigeria without Osibanjo advising his boss to stop them, yet you want to vote for them??!

If it is about VP position, Atiku has promised to zone sgf to your region. That position is a very strategic one!

Please vote for Atiku Abubakar to get Nigeria working!

Don't listen to the accusations that Atiku looted, even in the court of law, a suspect remains innocent until proven guilty by the court! Until those accusing Atiku provide an indicting evidence against him, please don't listen to them! It is all politics they are playing! Remember that Atiku was their darling in 2015 when he was in APC.

Osinbajo did not condemn wanton killings?

Did Atiku condemn the Odi massacre?

aariwa:
You are the one that needs to read if you can,so if your next door neighbor says today you are an armed robber;do you automatically become one?Their system is effective and if there was truth in Jefferson accausation they would have prosecuted Atiku immediately.America doesn’t care about who you are or beer Palour of dem say he say you be thief

What are you gibbering about?

The guy I quoted wrote that Jefferson implicated Atiku to lower his prison sentence and I informed him (seeing that, just like you, he is allergic to news articles) that Jefferson was exposed by an undercover informant, and was not coerced or self-influenced into making that statement implicating Atiku.

Just like a journalist went undercover to expose former Super Eagles coach, so was Jefferson exposed by an undercover informant.

Please, I am begging you, if you can't read, stay off my mention. On a normal day, I don't dignify people like you with a response. Because you people are a complete and utter waste of time.

Slynation:
Lol... is Osibanjo Not a Pastor
Just leave the Pastor tag alone.... most of them have reduced themselves into a laughing stock here in Nigeria

What do you have against Osinbajo?

Reno's mischievous attempt at stoking a tribal war is evident and very unbecoming of a supposed pastor whose call should be of peace.

What has Osinbajo done?

Xisnin:
And so what?

Jefferson was facing a long jail term and had to implicate others to reduce his sentence.

Did Atiku receive any money from Jefferson?
The answer is NO.

Read, you will never read.

The post states that Jefferson revealed to an undercover informant that the money found in his freezer belonged to Atiku.

I believe you know the meaning of undercover

Reading does not kill. Always endeavor to read. Moreover, that is not a very long post, and will not take as much time as watching a mushy Zee World series.

Slynation:
He received his own fair share of insults from the then opposition party, APC

I was not aware of unprovoked onslaught on him. If he got any insults, it must have been reprisals.

Moreover, going this low (from a supposed pastor) is unexpected.

If he has scores to settle, he should do it with tact. That was what Lai did during APC's campaigns.

Slynation:
Mayb u have forgotten what Reno passed through while serving the previous administration under GEJ, Perhaps he's only giving them a piece of their own cake.....!!
Abeg make una leave me go face Reno

What did he go through?

Slynation:
Yes u deserved it....
How can u be following someone and hating from the inside....

So criticizing a post is now the same as hating the poster?

You people ought now to see that those who like to criticize (like Reno) can't take a dose of their own medicine.

Imagine that he is Buhari who has been abused and called unprintable names, Reno would have jailed a lot of Nigerians for daring to criticize his government.

Unemadu:
Stop kidding yourself. We are all Nigerians and we know “Awon Okoro“ is very derogatory. Its not about the meaning of Okoro but the ways it is said. The problem is that Nigerians are used to their vile nature that everything becomes ok. What will it have taken for him to say Awon igbo?. Just like people think saying “that Aboki” is cool instead of saying “that hausa guy”

If he had said awon Igbo, you people would still certainly have found something wrong with it. Either with his tone or the gathering.

The truth is tribalism has made a lot of normal/informal things to sound tribalistic.

Awon Okoro, awon Larubawa, awon Gambari.

These nouns denoting tribes ought to be normal and harmless but you tribalists are trying to make them sound derogatory.

I am sure that even in the United States, people may have informal terms for describing people from other states.

Some of the terms may be derogatory but there would be others that would be plainly friendly, informal.

StOla:
Why run away?

Why not explain what Okoro alludes to besides being an Igbo name used to denote all Igbos.

Just as Yorubas use Gambari to denote all Hausa-Fulanis, but the name itself does not allude to anything beyond identifying the tribe.

Same cannot be said of Igbos use of Afonja, or Hausa's use of the term nyamiri, both of which tell a story.

So rather than run away, answer the question that was posed to you.

Don't waste your precious time on that uncouth, hopeless tribalist.

deomelo:
I love common sense and logic, you have both but unfortunately, the Twitter senator was part of 16 years gross incompetence and looting and stealing administration, he's still even part of the useless, unproductive and obstructionist arm of government as we speak.

The same Twitter nuisance was the DG of NTA for 8 years while NTA rot and decayed under his nose, but he made sure his own TV stations thrived.


The same crook stole N11 billion from us and he's yet to repay 1 kobo.

N11 billion is more than enough money to build many smart phone factories.

You have said it all, bro.

junnyjake:
My brother, na from morning you go take know as evening go be o.

It took Buhari 6 months to appoint ministers, that not a showing of one who's visionary, it's a display of cluelessness and ineptitude.

Buhari as a bad politician allowed Saraki become the Senate President and with all his charisma and huge following even on the house translated to nothing.

Please, stop already.

If Buhari had done a quarter of the political suppression that Kegame did to promote his ideas, people like you would have accused him of being a dictator.

You can't eat your cake and have it.

pchukwudi:
I'm done with your arrant hypocrisy.


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Explain to us why Okoro is derogatory?

Why should I feel bad if someone lumps all Yorubas together and call them Omo Adebowale or any popular Yoruba surname?

pchukwudi:
It's very clear you are sick. Otherwise you'd have seen the first derogatory picture there which was tagged as:

"another okoro ipob"

Guess you were too blind to also see the one that said that "okoro will never be allowed to rule".

If those were not instances of derogation to you, then "afonja" is a well fitted tag for all your types.

Hypocrite.

I don't see how Okoro or IPOB was used in a derogatory term in the post.

What makes Okoro derogatory? You have refused to answer.

Igbos here call Yorubas afonjas because afonja was viewed by them as a coward and a Fulani slave.

Tell us what is derogatory about Okoro? If a Yoruba calls you Okoro, what might he be trying to allude to?

At least, we know that when Igbos call Yorubas afonjas they are trying to allude to Yorubas as Fulani slaves.

pchukwudi:
As I said earlier, you are hypocritically stupid.

I am telling what's derogatory to me as an igbo person and you're talking nonsense.

Now, look at those screenshots and tell me whether those guys were singing praises for the Igbo's by tagging them as the okoros.

I saw the other screenshots. Bro, are you really this simpleminded?

This is just like using a term to represent a people. No Ajanaku (Yoruba) wants an Okoro (Igbo) to call Lagos a no man's land.

Okoro is a popular Igbo name so it is not surprising that anyone would lump all Igbo under the name.

Please, stop this nonsense already.

pchukwudi:
As I said earlier, you are hypocritically stupid.

I am telling what's derogatory to me as an igbo person and you're talking nonsense.

Now, look at those screenshots and tell me whether those guys were singing praises for the Igbo's by tagging them as the okoros.

Did you go to school at all?

How was Okoro used derogatorily in that post.

It is just like saying names like Ajanaku, Ade, Yemi are not acceptable in the East

pchukwudi:
I have a Yoruba friend whose surname is Afonja. So what's the crap you're talking about?


Now, can you imagine the former governor of Enugu state for example, referring to the entire Yoruba as "our brothers the afonjas" at an igbo dominated political meeting in Enugu?

How would you feel about that?

Be honest to yourself.

You are still not getting it.

Okoro is not a derogatory word with Yorubas as Afonja is with Igbos.

When Yorubas and Igbos clash on Nairaland, do you hear Yorubas call Igbos Okoro when Igbos call them Afonjas?

Afonja is a surname but social media made it popular for the wrong reasons when some Igbos turned it into a derogatory term.

Some Igbo were even surprised on a certain thread that Afonja was actually a surname.

So, please, calling Yorubas afonjas in a public gathering would definitely not be taken lightly because the name has become popular for the wrong reasons.

If Tinubu had called Igbos developers or flattheads, then, I would have seen the undertone of tribalism.

pchukwudi:
You are just hypocritically stupid.

You want to insist on generically referring to Igbo as the "okoros" (because it's an igbo name) rather than referring to them by their actual names.

Yet, in the same breath, you do not want Igbo's to generically call your people "afonja" despite the fact that it is a Yoruba name.

Don't you see how hypocritically illogical you are?

If you are not stupid, you will know that afonja is equivalent to flatthead and yam leg. They are derogatory words conceived in the peak of tribalism on the internet, especially on Nairaland.

Why would a Yoruba want to abuse an Igbo and call him Okoro? He would rather call him a flatthead.

pchukwudi:
Don't you think it's both stupid and arrogant to tell someone what you thing is acceptable or derogatory for him?

How do you feel when someone calls you a name (that is not yours) which you find offensive but he insists that it is good for you - even after severally telling him in clear terms that you do not like it?

What does that say about what you guys are doing now?

I was never aware that Igbos detest being called Okoro.

We have seen some Igbos wave it off as irrelevant and non-divisive right on Omokri's page. My Igbo colleagues at work also did not take offense.

So, why should I take it as derogatory simply because an unrepentant anonymous tribalist on Nairaland finds it so?

Yorubas are collectively called Omo Odua. My name is not Odua, but I do not take offense.

You people should calm down. Life is not as hard as you think or are taking it.

Fatherofdragons:
I should be telling you that onye ofe.

All the time we conversed, you kept on using derogatory words. I bet that settles the matter on who really is tribalistic.

Fatherofdragons:
It seems you are shamelessly defending your tribalism that was inbuilt into you by your parents.

Stop projecting your tribalism onto me or my tribe.