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wiegraf: Eventually we even come to wave's collapsing. It's mind boggling I tell ya'

Anyways, it's rather easy to see why a sentient species might assume this unbelievably gargantuan universe was custom made very specially just for them.

Well, in many ways it isn't, but you get the point.

Anyways, kudos good ser.

aye aye captain, thank you for indulging me in this discussion, I have learnt a thing or two,

wiegraf: Don't call me sir, what have I done to deserve respect? And nice steven weinberg.

Anyways, so a basic prerequisite is that for a universe to exist, there must be conscious life to acknowledge it, yes?

yes I agree with you, the universe exists cos we exist,

wiegraf: I don't think you quite get it. And it isn't a scientific theory per se, but it's solid reasoning. It's a bit similar to a thread @kay has atm dealing with his case against the existence of god.

For starters, imagine if there were no conscious life in this universe, and no other universe with any conscious life could interact, in any way, with it. Could you now say this universe exists?

lol, well, in that case sir, I will agree that the universe does not exist,

wiegraf: I'm an a$$, not stoopid. And don't take my antics personally.

Look up the antrophic principle if you haven't before, somewhat related

the anthrophic principle is very interesting, but it's vague and that makes it not credible, there's no proof for it, and the theory is just made up of speculation and conjecture, and the theory supports the theists concept of a creator, everything is right for life on earth cos it was specifically created for life by a creator, in essence the anthrophic principle is a principle that's theists can use to support their claim of an intelligent designer.

frosbel: Hmmm, Yes.

Do you have Sky News or BBC , if yes, watch it.

They shouted their usual Allahu Akbar and then danced around his body before the police shot them.

Btw, he is a Nigerian, confirmed.

why must he be a Nigerian, haba, must Nigerians be involved in all forms of social vices, I tire for this country ooo.

What is this world turning into? This is way too sad. A lot of religious folks are mentally deranged. Seriously.

plaetton: [/b]

But ofcourse, look at the infinite universe and see how tiny and insignificant we are in the grand scheme. That is what drives us, to understand our place or role in an infinite universe that does not give a rat's bottom whether we exist or not.
It's not about god. Its about trying to validate and justify our existence in an impersonal universe.
The creation of god is a temporary fix to assuage our fears and anxieties till we know more about the universe and how it works.
The more we know about the universe, the less our reliance on this temporary mental construct that we call god.
This has been self evident over the past 200yrs .

I agree with you on this sir.

obadiah777: YOU DONT HAVE TOO LONG TO WAIT. THATS THE GOOD OR BAD NEWS CHIEF BOLAINO, DEPENDING ON WHAT SIDE YOU ARE ALIGNED WITH. A CLEANSING IS COMING. IT HAS STARTED SLOWLY AND WILL CULMINATE IN ARMAGEDDON WW3. THE EARTH WILL BE CLEANSED WITH FIRE NUKES FIRE THAT IS

hahaha, this man is a doomsday prophet ooo abegooo, nobody's gon be using their nukes soon, I hope,

obadiah777: OF COURSE THE WORLD IS NOT COMING TO AN END. THIS EARTH ABIDETH FOREVER. WHAT IS COMING TO AN END IS THE AGE WE ARE LIVING IN. THE END OF THE AGES. KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN BROS. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, KEEP THIS THREAD AS A REFERENCE SO WHEN YOU SEE IT ALL UNWIND AND UNFOLD, YOU CAN SAY, DANNGGGGGG, I MET A PROPHET ON NAIRALAND A REAL PROPHET

hahahahaha,@ prophet, well we'll all have to wait and see,

FOLYKAZE: Gods are not human that fight. We disagree and end up sharing palmwine.

yeah, talking about palm wine, have u accepted the sacrifice of the ibo people? I remember in our last meeting of UAG (universal association of Gods) you said u had not made up your mind about putting an ibo man as president in the next nigerian election, have u made up your mind yet?

Lol, I laugh at you lot, @obadiah, u sure do have a wild imagination, you would make a good writer for scary movies, you guys should get off your high horses, the world's not coming to an end,

I just hope u guys realize it on time, before u end up wasting your lives painting doomsday pictures in the minds of ignorant people, obadiah, you're an intelligent man, and I respect your intelligence, but what if you're wrong? Have u considered that? There's no certainty in life.

FOLYKAZE: I sat on the throne from ancient. I am the hammer head of horror!!!

I am the lion from the house of African.
I rule the cyberspace-euniverse


I CONTROL-ALT-DEL YOU

hahaha I laugh at your hammer head of horror, have u forgotten so soon what I did to your head all those years ago, do not tempt the lord thy God.

wiegraf: Staged
Regardless, but staged

I never thought you and I could see eye to eye on any issue, but I agree with you on this, @op, that's staged, it's very obvious, and yes, man has an innate feeling that there's something bigger than him, and he has been trying to understand this feeling but has not succeeded, and I doubt if science can be able to explain unravel this mysterious "feeling"

FOLYKAZE: You guys are playing with my wrath. I will e-strike you from here. I will hit your head miraculously with my keys on this board. I will make fire from heaven and destroy your email-land. I will send plagues to your computer. And you will know truely IM A God

smh, I pity you lot, by the time I destroy the whole of earth because of you and your people, you would understand the reason I am called the supreme, be warned, be warned, be warned,

@op, if that happens tell the kid to just believe in me, cos blessed are those who believe without seeing, I have spoken, may the force be with u all, muskeetoo my favorite servant I see u, and I have heard your prayers, I will get to you soon,

ezme: There is a way of appreciating art without making it dictate your life style. Why I try to appreciate efforts made by individuals to put out something good. I believe a good video, nice word play and good beats is what I actually appreciate. It doesn't make me take to drugs or adopt their lifestyles.

P.S: I believe the people I try to identify with actually make good music and not the mediocre ones.

you have a valid argument my good man, and in as much as I would like to agree with u on this, my sense of fairness will not let me, it's very rare to see an hip hop artist who does'nt use derogatory words on his/her song, words like nigga, bit.ch, etc, and even rappers like coMmon, talib kweli, mos def, who rap conscious rap often use these words, and it goes to show u that hip hop is something that holds more negative than positive energy,

it's just like saying you support terrorism, but u hate the terrorism that kiLls innocent people, but there is nothing like good terrorism, the essence of terrorism is to cause terror, so it can not be justified, like wise hip hop, hip hop is a culture that promotes all sorts of vices, from getting rich quick to driveby shootings, nudity, profanity etc, so if u support works of some Hip hop artists who u think are not too bad, you inadvetently support hip hop, in general.

ezme: There is a way of appreciating art without making it dictate your life style. Why I try to appreciate efforts made by individuals to put out something good. I believe a good video, nice word play and good beats is what I actually appreciate. It doesn't make me take to drugs or adopt their lifestyles.

P.S: I believe the people I try to identify with actually make good music and not the mediocre ones.

you have a valid argument my good man, and in as much as I would like to agree with u on this, my sense of fairness will not let me, it's very rare to see an hip hop artist who does'nt use derogatory words on his/her song, words like nigga, bit.ch, etc, and even rappers like coMmon, talib kweli, mos def, who rap conscious rap often use these words, and it goes to show u that hip hop is something that holds more negative than positive energy,

it's just like saying you support terrorism, but u hate the terrorism that kiLls innocent people, but there is nothing like good terrorism, the essence of terrorism is to cause terror, so it can not be justified, like wise hip hop, hip hop is a culture that promotes all sorts of vices, from getting rich quick to driveby shootings, nudity, profanity etc, so if u support works of some Hip hop artists who u think are not too bad, you inadvetently support hip hop, in general.

kambo: y does d christian God interest u atheists sooooooooooo much?
U ask to mock not to learn.
All d explanation u get will do u no gud except u bcom born again.
Islam,hindu,eck etc gets no attention it seems atheism is not really a rejection of dieties but a rejection , with future intent to discredit, the God of d Bible.
U shd b askg y i need Jesus-Jesus is linked wt those animal sacrifces in d OT wch u cnt understand.
Besides isnt it apparent tht ths verse is true? "ever learng but never able to come to the knowledge of d truth".
Cuz so many atheists here read d bible of a God,they dnt blve in- y go to all the trouble? Beats me - yet u bunch still cant "get" it! ? So u come here wth tonnes of questions and blinders on 4 som poster to enlighten u (or entertain u)

the funny thing is (I'm sure most atheists did the same) when I was gradually delving into freethinking I studied the bible ernestly and with an open mind, I was really hoping to see something intelligent about the biblical God,

but as I delved into reading more scriptures I found the opposite about the biblical God, he is the opposite of intelligence, and I even found more wisdom in the ifa deity than in the jewish God,

Mr ezme, on a previous thread, u were very vocal about the negative effects of hip hop/pop culture on our society, but now it seems you have taken a stance on the other side of the fence, I and several other nairalanders have been waiting for the article of yours, but it's not forthcoming, so my question to u is, are you the one to come or should we wait for another?

musKeeto: Was really jobless that day..

I'm really impressed mann, you write very well, and u have a vivid imagination, have u considered writing professionally? U would make a very good writer mann, respect mann,

musKeeto: Of course, I've shared my story before...



https://www.nairaland.com/1093829/yahwehs-real-vision-hell

mannn, did u write this up, or u saw it somewhere, if u wrote it mannn, u have my respect mann, that's some real ish mann, that's badd, good one mann, good one,

Lagos na wa!!!

Lol, I'll be back *reserves space*

Rossikk: Rap.e of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Once again The bible 'God' approves of forcible rap.e.


Rap.e and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)

They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)


'God' Assists Rap.e and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

seriously maNn, the bible's one scary book, it's not something somebody in his/her right mind should read before sleeping, especially the old testament, the bible has more kills than most action movies and books combined. Why would someone call that book holy,

obadiah777: BLOOD MEANS TO OVERTAKE. LIKE SAY IF I AM A RIGHTEOUS MAN AND I PLOT A COUP AND TAKE OVER A TOWN, AND YET ALL THE INHABITANTS OF THE TOWN ARE WICKED AND HEDONISTIC. MY FIRST CALL OF DUTY WILL TO BE KILL EVERYONE IN THE TOWN. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ? MEANS I NEED TO BEHEAD EVERYONE IN THE TOWN. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ? IT MEANS TO TAKE OVER THEIR WAY OF THINKING AND KILL IT AND TURN THEM OVER TO MY RIGHTEOUS WAY OF THINKING. KILL THEIR OLD SELF. SPRINKLE THE BLOOD OF MY WAY OF THINKING ON THEM.

mann, that sounds disgusting mann, that's pure evil.

amanda2013: mtchweeeeee

mtchweeeee, to u too,

FOLYKAZE: Bro, christians in Africa are slaves. They are lost in this same world. Leave them to suck their imaginary saviour's blood. It will be better we discuss something tangible than this.

aye aye mate, you're right.

enilove: Don't you realise that life is in the blood?

The blood of Jesus is life unto every christian.

I know that blood is the life force of humans and most animals, but when u guys talk about blood and flesh all the time, it likens u to the people u guys claim are worshiping idols,

okeyxyz: The OP is the typical green snake under the green grass. He comes with venom under the guise of peace. Why don't ypu make your intentions clear from the beginning. Nobody is going to kill you for attacking christianity(@logicboy & co does it with his every life breath and they are still alive..), rather than coming with pretense of political correctness and false peace-flags like:



mtchewww!!!

this ploy u are using is an old one, you're trying to kill the reputation of the messenger so that the message would not be regarded as true, but still, you would agree wit me that what I'm saying is true.

FOLYKAZE: What you got there does not seem to be theological. They are culturally for the jew. Not your problem bro.

yeah, I agree these things are jewish culture, but the modern day christians believe that they are the new covenant jews, and as such these issues also concern them and inadvertently concern those of us who still have christian family and friends, and this blood lust can be seen in the prayers of christians, they are always pleading the blood of jesus on everything, ranging from pleading the blood on their food to pleading the blood on their cars or clothes,

this blood lust is something that should be checkmated before it gets to the next level.

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