₦airaland Forum

ThisMeansWAR:
you know I could say the same for Nigeria right? whenever I see beggars on the street, I ask myself, why can't these people be like me? why couldn't they do what I did..

You are confusing choice with the lack of it. Bro's, i grow up for Naija small na. Nigerians don't have a choice. You know what? i take it back. Nigerians have a choice of eating crap and smiling about it or eat it and don't smile. Are you telling me you choose to not to have power all year round? you chose to not to have gas for extended periods of time? you choose to drive on bad roads? you choose not to have security? come on man, you aren't talking to a toddler you know. For choice to work, you have to have it. American's have numerous choices at their disposal for success; it's either you take it or you don't.

ddami:
America- a future,, they have an external debt of $18trillion more than their GDP.. shebi you see greece.... don't worry just evade $2 tax - prison straight....,,

as for me in Nigeria, with 20mill I go enter Forbes... in 4-6 yrs..

Newsflash einstein; Every freaking country on Earth has debt. What am i saying, Nigeria can't even pay salaries. Don't tell me you are one of those people who can't distinguish between suffer and enjoyment.

petikal:
Interesting viewpoints. It's amazing how much society can affect people's mindset. We have folks thinking "I want it here and now", and few others looking constructively into the future.

Until you live in a sane functioning society with abundance of opportunities and security, you won't understand that N20mil is nothing. In fact, being monetarily "rich" in Nigeria means nothing.

Nobody is safe in Nigeria - rich or poor - and nothing is predictable, except further deterioration. We live in mansions powered by generators (health hazard) and boreholes, 15ft fences and gates. Essentially you're a prisoner in your own house! The more you make the more scared you are of your life and your family's. Poor infrastructure and mindset everywhere! No accountability.

Again, until you live in a sane functioning society, you won't understand.

Bro's, this is your first and final warning. Stop making sense. You are confusing a lot of people on this thread. Logic and common sense does not have a place here. You have been warned.

ThisMeansWAR:
so those homeless bigger chose to be homeless beggars? interesting.

If you understand the way america is then you'll understand. Yes they chose. Why am i not homeless. They were born there. So why couldn't they do what i did? At least you have to consider that i went there with nothing. Think. Don't just argue for the sake of it. Google won't help you in this instance. You have to live it to understand it.

CSTR2:
You don't need to be dangote.
20M is enough for any sensible human being to build a decent business that will make going to america a tourism concern.

Not everyone is sensible.

ThisMeansWAR:
and you can also boast of personal money within that six months? .. well not everyone will be as lucky as you.. congratulations.

I don't know how else to say this. IT IS NOT LUCK BUT MY PERSONAL CHOICES. i CHOSE. iT IS NOT LIKE IT IS A BIG SECRET. EVERYONE IN AMERICA KNOWS IT BUT THEY CHOSE A DIFFERENT ROUTE.

CSTR2:
Multinational coys have been built with far less.
Dangote started with N500,000.

True, but not everyone is Dangote.

ThisMeansWAR:
hehehe don't take it personal dude... Stop going off point... we are not discussing whether Nigeria is better than America now.. we all know America is better than Nigeria... the topic is, which one would you rather choose, 20million or american passport.... the person I quoted made it look like, immediately you enter America, you enroll into school, start living America dream. he didn't think about accommodations, feeding and stuff as been an American doest guarantee you have auto accommodation. you have to work to raise enough money to get accommodation or have someone help you out before you can start think about school and how to get loan for school or whatever.. like you said, a good school guarantees 6 figures, but is it that easy to enter that good school even if you have enough money let alone you that is going on loan. but in Nigeria, your money dictates your school. I have not been to America, I have been European countries, I may not have idea of how things work in America but it's definitely not as rosey as you painted it.

You are going back to what i said originally. within six months or arriving i had quality accommodation, vehicle, medical and life insurance and already began my masters. it all depends on your choices. Some people wanted to drive cabs/clean toilet etc i chose a different route.

eaglechild:
Do you seriously not know how to use a calculator?!
You keep saying $10k when it is closer to $100k.

check my later posts/

eaglechild:
I hope you realise you need to go back to school and redo mathematics.

shiit, you are right. i used the wrong exchange rate. Not current. But, even 100k will not even budge my stance.

ThisMeansWAR:
does that mean everyone in aAmerica succeed automatically but one is bigger than the other? why then do we have so many homeless and hopeless beggars.?

tell us the name of the University

how come those hopeless hobos ain't doing any of that? I mean really, 120k should be enough to set anyone up for life.. buy house and live good life.

you can get a loan to go to school, but we are talking about 20million here.. you can go to best University in Nigeria, with small part of the money, do your masters with it and also, invest in that same money.. can you do that in America?

Same as Nigeria if you have 20million in your account.

I really am trying to be patient with you because you are talking out of ignorance. On your point about why everyone is not doing it, well you have to live here to understand. People are generally lazy and want to live on welfare. There is no way to help people like that. Also one out of two Nigerian you see is here illegally so how can they achieve anything? On you point about the name of the university, well, i might as well google a name for you and there would be no way for you to verify, so what's the point?
On your point about the 120k, every soldier is given a certain amount to go to school. It's called the G.I bill. You can only use it for school, rent and tuition. Quality education guarantees you a six figure job so do the math. Again, i stress that you do understand that 20mil is only 10k. That's my tax refund this year alone.

abbey621:
I stay in the U.S and I can tell you right now an Average American does not have 20 million Naira saved or $10,000, either way the amount of money does not matter as much as what you decide to do with it and this can be the difference between rundown and wealth!

Still don't understand your point. You make it sound like it is horrible in the state. Move back to Nigeria if that is your point.

eaglechild:
Hahahahahahaha! Community college.

Don't mind some of these folks.

With 20 million in your account you can stroll into the US embassy and stroll out with your visa.
Have your kids in the US if you wish and they will become citizens with change in your pocket.

I hope you realize that 20mil is just 10k. My God i did not know things are this bad in Nigeria. See mentality.

ThisMeansWAR:
which University did you start your masters? in community college, online, or ivy league? so American government is dashing free money like that yet we still have many people struggling to go to college or struggling for scholarships because they couldn't afford to it? Bros read the previous message very well.

1. I had already said the U.S will always give you options and it depends on you and how much you want to succeed.

2. I did not attend a community college and i did not attend an ivy league. Not everyone will get into yale and havard. But i did go to a reputable institution for my masters.

3. I signed an initial 4 year contract as a soldier upon which i recieved so much goodies/benefits/perks/ including 120k for school, that i decided to make it permanent. Hence, why i said it depends on you and your choices.

4. Unlike Nigeria where you have to pay out of pocket, you can get a loan to go to school.

5. America gives you multiple choices.

6. I hope you realize 20mil is just 10k? 10k? 10k? 10k?

ThisMeansWAR:
you think money to do all that will start flying immediately you reach America.. you have to work for years before you can gather enough to go to school self.. probably community college self, not the ivy league.. things ain't bed of roses either.. with 20 million, you can invest and live normal life and probably travel to that America as a tourist self.

Bro's stop watching movies for your facts. The good thing about america is they will always give you multiple choices for everything in life. It depends on you and your choices. Within 6 months of my arrival in the U.s i had started my masters. That was not my plan originally, but when the u.s government is giving you free money for school, you don't say no.

As i if i knew which option Nairalanders, and to an extention, Nigerians would choose. 20 mll ko, 50 mil ni. You forget that the said 20 mil can be saved up in 2 years living and working in America if you know what you are doing. You want to compare 20 million that is rapidly losing value to a life of certainty. Nairalanders, at least for once try and see beyond your noses and try and envisage the bigger picture. My God, Nigerians are really fhucked.

mczico:
I miss gej ....waoooo 1st to comment...I dedicate
Dis to gej my father................singing ...wo bobo
gej lobade .to be first to comment I day hustle
every night and day
oya gej bobo come back to Nigeria bobo cuz I
day miss u bobo..cuz dis new pres na dullerdino
bobo....I no call name o ..if u say Buhari na u
sabi o...... Mc zico.. Naira land, nigerian number1

The bolded is same as saying "i miss suffer". Not that Buhari is any better but come on man.

elego1:
Like seriously, Nigeria is a free country...
In Nigeria, u buy 10 in 1 movie disc for 150 naira ($0.87). while in America the average price for a movies disc is $10 (2000 naira), while 10 movies is 20,000 naira.
meh!!! we are really enjoying in this country.

You see what hunger and poverty has caused? This guy can't even differentiate between enjoyment and suffering anymore. God i thank you OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

celeron40:
Forget it bro, no woman will marry you just because you tell her she is pretty..chances are, she has heard it several times before. Ignore her beauty, she'll come running.

If you say so.

sunnyb0b0:
Read before commenting so you don't embarrass yourself like this next time.

Bro's....there is no need to read it. There is absolutely no viable reason why the minimum wage in a country like Nigeria is less than 100 dollars a month. My freaking phone bill is more than that. Until Nigeria realizes that it is beneficial to ensure that every citizen is empowered and paid their worth, the nation will never move forward. And why are all states always waiting for revenue from oil, gas etc? I'm telling you, once you leave Nigeria and see the way things are done you'all will be perpetually blind. what a fracking country. Keep voting for un enlightened politicians and illiterates. Nigerians deserve the leadership they have. Hunger and poverty has taken control of all faculties.

abbeyty:
Brother, I don't dispute the fact that there are some bad Nigerians who are there to ruin your life or even like to take advantage of you but we still need to appreciate those good ones who are there to help you when you need their help we can't just brush everyone with thesame brush because I am talking from experience.

You may be right but, i am yet to meet one.

celeron40:
Stop the ass-kissing plz. You are a man.

It's not asss kissing to tell a beautiful woman she's beautiful. That's how you end up marrying a beautiful woman. I know this for a fact.

vislabraye:
Wow... . This is very informative. The Op didn't really emphasise on the positives like you just did. But there's an age limit to joining the military, isn't it ?
I wished I had this info years ago . Kudo, men.

You have to understand that the OP is an average Nigerian; can't see beyond their nose. Yes there is an age limit. I think it's like 37 or so. Not sure though.

vislabraye:
How did you cope with the cultural change and stuffs like racism ?
What are you doing at the moment ?

Irrespective or how you arrive the first couple of months are the hardest and that's when you are most vunerable. For me i was in country legally but had to wait 3 months to get my social security. Without that you'll be working under the table, meaning you will be employed by an employer who pays you cash only. What he pays is far less than minimum wage but there's nothing you can do about it because it is illegal. This is the period you need to limit your association with Nigerians. You have to remember, a lot of us are in country illegally, and all they know is how to hustle. They will try to suck you in but you have to resist.

As per the cultural change and racism, your best bet again is to stay away from Nigerians and Black Americans. Mix with people from Ghana, whites and the likes. You'll get acclamatized faster. It's hard either way and only time will get you through it. I have not witnessed any form of racism personally. You'll eventually find out that it's mostly lazy people who complain about racism. I'm not saying it does not exist, but it's few and far in between. Imagine a scenario where a man goes into a store, steals and runs away. He is chased by the police, told to stop, he resists and starts fighting with the cops. He gets shot and every black person screams RACISM. I ask you; does that make sense to you? My wife's clients are mostly white women. If America was that racist would she have those clients? America cares only about what quality service you can provide irrespective of what race you are. If you cannot be beneficial to society then you might as well pull out the race card.

I always advice people to join the army for at least 3 years immediately they arrive in the states. Your life will be so much better if you do. You will hit the ground running and achieve so much more. Nigerians told me not to, that i will be deployed to iraq and afghanistan and most likely die there. True, that could happen. I could also be crossing the street and be hit by a car the next minute as well. I have been deployed 3 times and nothing happened. Here's what you get as a soldier.

1. Citizenship within six months, while others wait 5 years.

2. 100k, free for educational purposes. This can only be used for college only.

3. In addition to that, while serving you get tuition assistance which means they pay for your schooling in active duty or reserve. Which also means you don't have to use the 100k. I'm transfering the 100k to my wife to finish her masters.

4. They also teach you a trade craft when you join the army. I am a software engineer for the army. I did not know squat about it prior to joining. I did a test which would tell if i was trainable and once that was done i got trained and the rest is history.

5. Once you master one craft, you can apply to switch to another one.

6. Free medical insurance. peace of mind

7. Quality life insurance. If i die for whatever reason; in combat or driving my car, my wife gets an instant 100k 24hrs later. A couple of months later she gets 450k and benefits for the rest of her life. The benefits ends when she re marries. I get 100k if anything happens to her.

8. Opportunity to travel. I cannot mention how many countries i have been to free of charge.

9. Opportunity to lead people. The training and opportunity to lead people is unquantifiable. I have over 50 people i teach, coach, mentor and lead. If America was that racist, i would not have the opportunity.

10. First in line for any federal job (you want this) when i decide to get out.

The only negative i have so far is the lack of access to Nigerian food. Considering all the positive though, i think i can live with that.

hatux:
The Radio OAP shows off how flexible she's getting from her fitness
training with celebrity personal trainer/rapper, Uzikwendu...

Looks kinda funny to me...

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Also, check some comments below....

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Cc: lalasticlala

Who's the guy?

abbeyty:
Why do we like to rubbish ourselves like this? Just listen to yourself, you avoid Nigerians like plague? You don't need to generalise this a lot of Nigerians abroad won't have being what they are today if not for the help and advice of their fellow Nigerian.

tai2:
We know your type. You arrive here and start forming elite and being too good for your fellow Nigerians. The moment trouble comes and you aren't accepted by the foreigners you run to, you run back to the same Nigerians. Keep breaking away from Nigerians o, time will tell.

To quell your curiosity, i will try to enlighten you;

1. Yes i avoid Nigerians like the plaque. It is sad that most of them who come here don't change their mindset. Nigerians are like black Americans. Nigerians go about with the "village mentality" and the average black american believes their is a "conspiracy" against them while the truth is, they are lazy wannabe gangstas who live off the backs of tax payers.

2. What trouble are you talking about? you are more likely to get in trouble hanging around Nigerians. Remember, we have a psychological corruptive nature. I could tell you the phucked of things most of them do/try/tried to make me do. from being a gigolo to credit card fraud to insurance fraud. forgeting that the American justice system gives out jail terms like like candy to a baby. Their is no bribing your way outta that.

3. It is safer to hang around Ghanaians.

yorubadelta:
Poster, what do you mean by lack of jobs? That statement is false abeg. If you are well qualified, got relevant experience and are LEGALLY in the country then getting a good job wouldn't be a problem at all.. In fact, jobs boku for UK if you know what you are doing.

Aside from that, everything else said is true.

bro's you are so correct. when i first arrived here the Nigerians kept telling me and my wife was that to be successful you had to drive a cab as a man and be a certified nursing assistant as a woman. I tried that crap and found it was not for me. I had to break away from Nigerians and their set minds and norms. In fact i avoid Nigerians abroad like the plague. They will definitely hold you back. I am very successful in my chosen field and my wife is a well sort after makeup artist. The good thing about america is if you can imagine it, then you can achieve. No matter what it is. They have the enabling environment to make your dreams come true. The OP is saying that paying taxes and paying rent is a negative. What a mentality. So it is better to squat with friends and live with no electricity than actually having it. Nigerians.

yorubadelta:
This may be true for some.. what I see Nigerians do when they first arrive is to limit themselves and limit their circle, listening to advise from fellow Nigerians who have been here so long with nothing to show for it.

If that qualified banker rolls with the right people who know what they are doing, he would secure a great job without much struggle.

A very close friend of mine became a senior drug safety scientist within 3yrs of arriving the UK.. dude has a 2.2 in microbiology from Onabisi Onabanjo Uni.. no masters, no previous work experience. It was a lady he met in the industry that put him through how to package his cv to get the job.

So you see it not that Nigerian qualifications is looked down upon here.

bro's you are so correct. when i first arrived here the Nigerians kept telling me and my wife was that to be successful you had to drive a cab as a man and be a certified nursing assistant as a woman. I tried that crap and found it was not for me. I had to break away from Nigerians and their set minds and norms. In fact i avoid Nigerians abroad like the plague. They will definitely hold you back. I am very successful in my chosen field and my wife is a well sort after makeup artist. The good thing about america is if you can imagine it, then you can achieve. No matter what it is. They have the enabling environment to make your dreams come true. The OP is saying that paying taxes and paying rent is a negative. What a mentality. So it is better to squat with friends and live with no electricity than actually having it. Nigerians.

PvtParts2:
The Buharist Zombies don't know that sooner or later it will be Fashola and Tinubu on the list.

Buhari is doing what he did in 1984.

Arresting and jailing Politicians is not to curb corruption but rather to block any future opposition he may have.

Buhari hs truly hit the ground running.


He did this in 1984 and the Plebs celebrated this .

After the Politicians he gagged the Press with Decree 4 from where he took his despotism to the Plebs on the streets who by the time they realized had no politician or opposition figure to fight for their right, the press were gagged and they saw themselves living in a big barrack nation.

It took the efforts of IBB and other senior military officers to rid Nigeria of this power drunk despot.

But today we don't have that option.

Shout Change!

If he doesn't do it you'll say he's not fighting corrupution. He's doing it now and you are still complaining. You can never satisfy human beings. Ebenezer Obey Said it well.

I just showed a friend of mine this story and he thinks it's a fabricated story. He just can't fathom a policeman jumping into on coming vehicles just to receive bribe. I don't blame him; he's german. Things like that don't happen in normal societies.

eliment:
It's high time government banned these containers during the day so many life lost already

It is not about banning them. It is about using the vehicle the way they were meant to be used. I have never heard of a tricons on a trailer without tie-downs. Nigerians are just too stup.id for words.

adioolayi:
Next time...He won't do copy and paste again

He should have joined Nollywood ...since he can sit at the comfort of his home and write sweet fictional stories..Well let him cool-off a bit at kirikiri maximum prison...he go get sense

This is why I keep saying that Nigerians are the dullest people on the planet. They can't even distinguish between what should be a civil case from a criminal one. It is not a crime to defame character. what the aggrieved individuals should have done was to have sued hom to court and made millions. Nigerians, always doing things in the opposite direction of everyone else.