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Gabrielshow24:
Resorting to ad hominem attacks indicates that you are at your wit's end. You can’t advance your argument because I have pointed out the fallacy in your statement regarding angels.

Furthermore, your main assertion—that 'Jesus is a God but not God Almighty'—places you in a contradictory position. Perhaps English is challenging for you. Consider the statement, 'Boomark is a Christian.' If I add the clause, 'but he is not a true Christian,' can Boomark still be considered a Christian? 🤨

The latter phrase indirectly suggests that 'Boomark is not a Christian,' based on the assumption that all Christians are expected to be true Christians.

The same logic applies to God. If God is expected to be Almighty, then claiming that Jesus is a God while simultaneously stating that 'he isn't God Almighty' implies that Jesus is not God.

In essence, you have inadvertently concluded that 'Jesus is not God!'

Oya tell me if these two statements are the same

Boomark is a Christian and Boomark is a Christian church.

You have problem and don't know how to use english. I don't need to type long comments to confuse people.

Oya , in essence 1 2 ready go...

Gabrielshow24:
Replying your first screenshot where you said I twisted your words "Jesus is a God" to "Jesus is not God". Obviously this is erroneous as you have deprived the reader of the consequent of this phrase "but not God almighty".

It doesn't matter, you have no escape. whether you add the adjective "almighty" there, it doesn't change the intended meaning. Your statement in its barest minimum implies "Jesus is not God{you can add the optional adjective - almighty} but rather a God".

Which also buttresses my point that you tackle trinity without understanding your own problem statement 😂! You can't be writing a thesis If you don't properly understand what you are writing on. You mashed up verses together to sell an half-thought thesis but it fails when I show contradictions such as this.

Now you are trying to patch your original argument by even drawing st-raws. It's too late for that. Also, when I posted the screenshot, I posted it along with my own reply to that specific error you made.

If you claim "Jesus is a God", for the sake of ignorance let me forgo the belittling undertone in this statement, and you claim "his Father is God almighty". What is the difference between God and God almighty ?🤨

Are they not essentially the same? The adjective "almighty" emphasizes God's omnipotence 👀. What shall we call this? Ig.norance on boomark's part? Kindly educate yourself and stop with all this cheap scripts. It doesn't work on us! You must do better!

The conclusion of the whole matter shows that you l'ied. You failed to use screenshot to prove your l'ie.


Moses is god and Moses is god almighty are not the same thing.

But if the 2 persons are not the same person then anyone can say, "Moses is god but not god almighty." When we know the 2 persons we are talking about.

Have you seen that your ignorance is at the peak because you don't understand English. Special waec exam centres have done a lot of damage to people.

Someone said, "Jesus IS a God but NOT God Almighty and NOT his EQUAL" and you twisted that statement to be "Jesus IS NOT God." What then happened to the first part which says Jesus is a God. You don't know the work of BUT in a sentence.

Bros apart from being a l'iar, you also don't understand simple english. Your Ignorance at the peak. You are not fit to teach anything because you cannot understand simple english.

What I wrote indicates that they are 2 different persons. Instead l'ying just because you don't understand english, you should have asked me to tell you the difference.

It is not my fault that you didn't add "Almighty" in your own statement. I am not the one to do it for you. It is clearly written in my comment but missing in your own. Your brain should be able to gather everything you need before you say them. Blame your brain and your love for l'ies not me.

What I wrote is very clear in the picture.

Ken4Christ:
You haven't answered my these questions because it's my first time of asking it. Please, answer them.

Please you people should stop all these l'ies.
I don't know if the antichrist and the father of l'iars have bewitched you people. That's the reason you all believe l'ies.

See your first question in the 1 screenshot and I answered you in the 2nd screenshot.

So now answer my question which I marked in the 2nd picture which is:

1. Which God is this place talking about that his nature is in Christ's body?

Ken4Christ:
Please answer this question before I make further comments;

1. Who is the Holy Spirit?
2. Is he inferior to God?

Don't you understand English? Why you people acting so scared. I have answered your question before without any stress. Now for more than 2 days I have been begging you to answer just one question.

I can answer any question including the ones you posted just now. But if you are so scared to answer my question then forgot about it. I know your BP will become normal now I told you to forget

But if you are still interested see your question in the picture below.

Anything that will make people so scared, so frightened, and so uncertain about they believe is of the devil and the antichrist. You use Colossians 2:9 to defend trinity but now you are too scared to answer question on it.

I am Boomark of God. Bold, unafraid, and courageous slayer of trinity false doctrine.

Boldness comes from the spirit of God.

Gabrielshow24:
It's become really obvious you lack com-prr-heen-sion. The scripture was to show that your assertion: "Angels started seeing Jesus when he was flesh" was false. Fallen Angels had known about him and they could recognize him. You have no case boomark. Is this what you have now relied your thesis upon? After I showed the world that you lied!

That paragraph also started with "look at this fallacy" and ended with "how he came up with such a conclusion" which was to show the reader that you made a lot of assertions that can't be substantiated, they are solely based on what you think!

Kindly tell us, why Angels started seeing Jesus only when he came to earth, when he hath already been with the Father even before the world even began? Psalm 2:12, Job38:7, John17:5, John 8:56, Gen19:24, Gen18:1-15.

These verses above are there to show that angels should have been seeing Jesus, it is not just when he became flesh that they started seeing him! [/b]Do you get my point now? Even a child would have understood what I drew out as an error on your part😅!

Stop being dishonest and mischievous. Don't you understand English? In my post which you quoted it was boldly written that you should focus on the 1st screenshot. Look at how people who call themselves Christians are being terrible l.iars. please I didn't ask you anything about angels seeing Jesus.

See it here again. Tell me how you twisted what I said that [b]Jesus is a God to mean Jesus is not God. Follow simple instruction if you actually wrote your Jamb or waec by yourself. Nawa o.

Gabrielshow24:
What more do you want from screenshots when I have given you excerpts of your speech, where you mentioned such. Nvm, the screenshot is there for all to see. If You like you can deny and say that I fabricated those quotes of yours. Hence the screenshot will show who is really the liar!

This guy and lie, 5 & 6.

See your own in the picture below. It has been removed severely. Read the things you see in the picture carefully and explain.

You quoted Matthew 8:29, Mark 1:24 against what I wrote without revealing the content. This is where demons recognized Jesus as the son of God and the Holy one of God. After this you started talking off point and didn't connect your scripture to anything. People will be wondering if you are ok. They are proof that you might have a problem. You are not fit to teach anyone the scripture.

For now just focus on the 1st screenshot and reply.

I made it bold so you will see what you need to do

Ken4Christ
Chibuezem

I don't want to believe that you guys have fled with just one question from me. It is now going to 2 days. See the screenshots and answer your questions.

I tried to post it last night but it failed severally whenever I refresh the page.

I want to slay the last hope of those believing this Trinity falsehood from the antichrist today and update my original post.

MaxInDHouse:
Please i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

This arguments is none of my business the only key that disproves TRINITY is in that group name: Jehovah's Witnesses.

Jesus said:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20

Let Trinitarians organize themselves and prove they truly know Jesus and his father {John 17:3} after all Jesus prayed for his true disciples to be united in faith {John 17:22} and for the world of unbelievers to observe the love that permeates their assembly. John 13:34-35

Jesus' real disciples will have fine works {James 2:18-26} that the world of unbelievers will notice globally {Matthew 5:14-16} as they use the word of their God to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, erase the making, buying, selling and using of weapons in the hearts of all adherents of the word of their God, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} with this they have proved beyond reasonable doubt that they are true witnesses of the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6 compare to Act 1:8

Anything aside that is worthless, useless and aimless arguments! 2Timothy 2:23; Titus 3:9

Thanks, God bless you and may you have peace!

Bro you failed in your advertisement of your organisation Jehovah's witnesses. Stop giving the glory that belongs to God to your church/group if that is what you do on nairaland.

The only key that disproves TRINITY is in the bible (that group name: Jehovah's Witnesses.).

The key is the word of God. The words of Jesus Christ, prophecies from God, and the letters from the apostles. They are all in the bible. Your organisation didn't write the bible or inspire the scripture. Let them leave the bible and manufacture their own key so we can aee.

Your organisation is an imperfect group. So putting an imperfect group where you should put the perfect is a blunder and a fatal error. The wolves in sheep's clothing can also apply to you, your organisation, and anybody.

I don't want peace. I want problems always

May the peace of Jehovah God be with me. May his face shine on me and may he favour me to uproot and exposé all the works of satan and the antichrist in Jesus name amen.

God bless you too.

Gabrielshow24

Apart from lying. It now also obvious that you don't understand English. If you don't know the meaning of SCREENSHOT, SEARCH IT ON GOOGLE.

See what I told you to show me in the screenshot below. I don't know why you people don't understand simple instruction. All the things you wasted time typing are useless. That's how liars do cover up for lying. I need proof in a single picture only, simple.

Let me ask you again. From the 2nd screenshot you said that I posted that Jesus is not God. So prove to us that you are not a liar by

1. USING SCREENSHOT(S) TO SHOW ME WHERE I SAID JESUS IS NOT GOD.

You can Google my question and understand it well before you answer.

I wonder how people who don't understand simple question are here claiming they know something from the bible. NO LONG STORY. Follow the instruction and guideline I have given you to vindicate yourself.

All these for a simple question with 12 words. And they think they can understand bible with close to one million words.

Chibuezem:
the scriptures you quoted are correct however your interpretation in regards to trinity Is different from what God revealed to me. Now kindly answer my question, I'm so curious to hear your answer.

MaxInDHouse
armchairscholar
Explore2xmore

See the sect of dishonest people that are preaching trinity. Always looking for a way to fool me with words as they do with trinity. I said it right from the beginning that they are doing the work of satan the father of li.es and antichrist.

1. I never asked him if my scripture are correct.
2. I never asked him anything about my interpretation.
See screenshots

I was patient to ask him the question a second time, pointing out what I needed him to answer, so it will become very obvious that he is deceitful.

Someone who cannot understand a simple question has no business teaching things from the bible.

The antichrist is at work in then. Doing everything possible with li,es to stand against the only true God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 8:44 NIV
[44] You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Gabrielshow24:
I am a busy person, in my spare time I peruse on Nairaland. Also, your response is not a tangible rebuttal, it doesn't address all the counter points I raised against your "thesis". You are just making an assertion without backing it up with substance. All your points i have refuted showing the world that they are self-refuting!

You won't respond to the counter points, you continue to delude yourself by saying we are lieing while yet everything we use as a basis is from scripture! You are the one that has formed a conclusion, a conclusion impervious to reason, scripture and logic!

Please that my post that you claimed and typed all these things for is not for you. Stop being dishonest and deceitful.

Like I told you from the beginning that I don't have anything to discuss with you since you don't know how to make use of your bible. So there is nothing like rebuttal or refutal except on l.ies that were told. And stop acting as if we have been discussing anything to deceive people.

The only thing I'm doing with you is to show you where and how you li-ed against my post.

Gabrielshow24:
Paul rebukes you! Philippians 2:6🧐

It's very evident, you don't know what you are saying!

This is a very useless comment. Make it useful by posting Paul's rebuke against the prophecies and the words of Jesus Christ in the scriptures I posted.

I'm not interested in hide and seek from people who are too afraid to counter the scriptures I posted.

Not a single person has done that and we are about to enter page 4. You have used 3 pages to post laughing emojis.

Gabrielshow24:
what is my business that I should stoop so low as to report you? Why do you resort to lies?🤨 Why should I report you? What's special in your write-up? The bot banned you because you must have used certain keywords in your response or you were just tad unlucky 😅!

You said you caught my lie, you circled that. Is your entire theme not about refuting the trinity? What then is trinity about? If not that Jesus is God 🤨. Thus, this has been your standpoint. We asked you to define your understanding of certain terms before we proceed further but you failed to do so. Now it's evident that you are misinformed!

Do you want to deny that you claimed Jesus is not God? You even wrote that "Jesus is a God because there are others in heaven that are gods"🤨

I just want to show all, the spirit that works in you!

Show with screenshot where I claimed the Jesus is NOT God.

I hope you understood what you are to show me? We shall see those working for the father of li-ars.

I am waiting for two people to answer my questions. I will exercise patience to know if they have fled.

Explore2xmore:
We more likely wouldn't come to an agreement however consider that the relationship within the Christian Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit sharing the same essence, or homoousios, the scriptures hint at a hierarchy that deserves a closer look.

Take John 5:19, for instance, where it says, The Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing.

This verse really highlights how the Son relies on the Father, showing that Jesus is all about fulfilling the Father's will instead of acting on his own.

Then there's 1 Corinthians 11:3, which states, The head of Christ is God, pointing to an eternal order within the Godhead and suggesting that the Son continually submits to the Father's authority.

Moreover, 1 Corinthians 15:28 talks about the Son eventually being subjected to the Father, reinforcing this hierarchical relationship that goes beyond just temporary circumstances.
And in John 14:28, when Jesus says, The Father is greater than I, it emphasizes the different roles even among those who are equal in essence. So, while the Trinity embodies unity in being, there’s definitely a clear order of authority at play. The highest being the One True God that everything including Jesus and the Holy spirit submit to.

Trinity Is not found anywhere in the bible. It was man-made or made by antichrist because it stands against the words of Christ. It was never inspired by the Holy spirit.

You forgot to add that Jesus has a God he worships and serve, Revelation 3:12.

They have failed with their equality antichrist doctrine. Tricks by satan to insult the only true God. They think they are doing Jesus a favour by making him equal to his God. He will tell them, "I don't know you, I am looking for only those who are doing the will of my Father in heaven, Matthew 7:21-23.

The will of God are the the things God commanded Christ to tell us and that is what trinitarians are twisting and fighting against with a strange word - Trinity.

Gabrielshow24

See for yourself. They were removed.

Gabrielshow24:
This is where your finite wisdom ends. The bible is talking about the essence of God. If you and that your boss stood together, what separates you based on nature🤨? Don't you both have two hands, two legs, two eyes, presumably 👀?

By nature Jesus is God, he is one with the Father. By authority, the Father is greater than him! How's that hard to understand 🤨? Your analogy defeats you once again! 😂

Even the bible verse you quoted is contrary to your argument😂. Emphasis on "fullness" peradventure your finite wisdom missed it! 😅

If you know me, you shouldn't be rejoicing. Allow him to answer my question first before I slay to pieces your joy and only hope.

I am Boomark of God

armchairscholar:
Your passion for seeking truth in Scripture is clear, and I’m grateful for the opportunity to reflect on this together. The question of who God is and how Jesus relates to Him touches the heart of our faith, and it’s a topic that deserves careful thought and prayer. I hear the conviction in your words, and I want to respond with gentleness, as we’re called to in 1 Peter 3:15, to honor both the truth and the love that binds us as believers.

You’ve shared many verses that emphasize the Father as the one true God and Jesus as His servant, prophet, and priest. These roles of Jesus are beautiful truths in Scripture. He is indeed the Messiah, the one sent by the Father to reconcile us to Him, as you pointed out in passages like John 20:17 and Acts 2:36. His submission to the Father, as seen in John 14:28 and 1 Corinthians 15:28, shows His humility and obedience, which are a model for us all. This reminds us of the deep love and unity between the Father and the Son, as Jesus prays for us to share in that oneness in John 17:22.

At the same time, I’d encourage us to consider the mystery of God’s nature a bit further. Scripture also speaks of Jesus in ways that suggest a unique divine role, such as John 1:1, where He is called the Word who was with God and was God. This doesn’t mean we ignore the Father’s supremacy, as you rightly emphasize, but it invites us to wrestle with how Jesus shares in God’s glory while remaining subject to the Father. The early church, through much prayer and struggle, sought to understand this balance, as we see in historical gatherings like the Council of Nicaea, where believers wrestled with these truths to guard against error.

I don’t say this to argue but to encourage us to keep seeking God’s heart together. The Bible calls us to humility and love in our pursuit of truth, as Philippians 2:2 reminds us to be “like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and of one mind.” Let’s hold fast to the Father as the one true God, honor Jesus as His chosen Son and servant, and trust the Holy Spirit to guide us into all truth, as John 16:13 promises.

If you’re struggling with these ideas, I’d suggest praying through them with an open heart, perhaps using some of the powerful prayers found in Scripture to seek clarity and peace. Let’s keep this conversation rooted in love and a shared desire to know God more deeply.

The share of Jesus in God's glory doesn't make his equal to his God. The eyes of God has glory, his arm, his breath, his feet, his hair and everything about him. His word also has glory. Non these things I mentioned is equal to God himself. The God that made his word to become flesh can also make his eyes to become flesh. They all belongs to God the Father. Christ belongs to God.

John 1:1
The word was God. This doesn't mean the word is God the Father. Verse 18 told us no one has seen God but the word was seen by many. The confusion is in the God used for both of them. Idol and Satan worshippers cannot write them as god but God. Jesus told us that the Father is the only true God.

Jesus cannot tell us that the Father is his God, is greater than him, that he is a servant of God and human beings will come and say no, "God is greater than him but he is equal to God." "He is a servant that is equal to his master." They sound absurd.

I'm not struggling with any idea. See in the screenshot what a catholic charismatic woman to me after she said I should ask God for direction as if what was written in the bible is not enough to direct. When I told her to direct me from the direction she was given, she told me to go and ask my forefathers. Their direction is not from God but their rev fathers and pastors.

Steep:
We only want to make sure you knew what you were up against and not just beating empty air. How will people know if what you call trinity is actually the trinity? Nobody knows your argument.

Whatever you call trinity in Christian religion, no matter how you define it is a false doctrine that is against the word of God and Christ. I hope you understand this. That no matter how you paint it, it is still falsehood.

I don't need to argue with anyone because the word of God is already against it.