olire:
According to your quotation, although it is called the Law of Moses, it is actually the law of God. This is due to the fact that it was what the Lord commanded.
Here, as u can see, your own quotation refers to the law as God's own. It is named the law of Moses because it was revealed through him. It is God's own Law.

So... U agree with me that it is wrong to refer to the ten commandments as the law of Moses?

olire:
So... U agree with me that it is wrong to refer to the ten commandments as the law of Moses.

olire:
lol, I'm not contending whether its a law or not. My contention is whose law is it, God or Moses. What u have pointed out above, especially the highlighted part shows that it was written by God himself. So then again, is it still Moses' law when God wrote it initially??

olire:
Why do you say the Sabbath is the law of Moses. Could u point out scriptural evidence to support your claim?

olire:
So... Are u trying to say the ten commandments is the law of Moses?

Bidam:
Who be your boy? A happily married man with two kids na hin be your boy

BTW, since you no like scriptural truth and realities make i use logic puncture you hia..Are you telling me since your penis is circumcised you have falling from grace

Goshen360:

sukkot:
stop twisting scriptures. what is written down is pretty clear. these men have shortcomings that everyone can see but yet are still recieved as messengers and custodians of the word of God. thats what that galatians verse is talking about. see you need to be able to see past the bible being about single people before you can understand where i am coming from. there is no human being named jesus christ that was hung on a cross. nobody was hung on a cross literally

sukkot:
you did see this verse didnt you ?
colosians 4 vs 11 And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me << his fellow workers are Jesus. a title not a name

Bidam:
Ok, your opinion is noted boomark.

Goshen360:


True, it is a ceremony under the Mosaic ONLY TO A BELIEVING PARENT WHO BELIEVES IN THE LAW OF MOSES. I believe EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN THE LAW OF MOSES, BUT THEY WEREN'T WRITTEN TO ME NEITHER WAS IT WRITTEN TO ANY CHRISTIAN. These laws are shadows and shades and the REALITY....Bidam is IN CHRIST. Your error is, you are teaching the law as a MEANS TO RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND ACT OF WORSHIP instead of teaching the law as a finished works of Christ....that is, teaching the law AS CHRIST THE REALITY OF THE LAW.

See how Christ dedicated us to God....in Himself,

1 Corinthians 1:2Expanded Bible (EXB)

2 To the church of God in Corinth [ an important city in southern Greece; Paul started the church on his second missionary journey, around ad 52; Acts 18], to you who have been ·made holy [sanctified; dedicated/set apart to God] in Christ Jesus. You were called to be ·God’s holy people [ saints] with all people everywhere who pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ—·their Lord and ours [ theirs and ours]:

So guess what, If I'm dedicated to God IN CHRIST, what do you think offspring that comes out of me will be? Dedicated to the Devil? In the NT, not until you DO A CEREMONY to dedicate a child unto God BEFORE that child is dedicated. This truth is Apostolic doctrine here.

ayoku777:


I strongly want to believe this is not a deliberate attempt at twisting scripture; that it is simply a sincere error of hermeneutic (style of scripture interpretation).

This kind of error you're making arises when someone takes a verse or two in the bible, and wrests or tears it out of the passage; and then gives it an entirely individualistic interpretation totally out of sync with the context of its preceeding verses.

The verse you quoted in Colossians 4v11 -And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellow-workers unto the kingdom of God.

If you look at the verse that came before it (verse 10), you will notice it didn't end with a fullstop. Meaning whatever Paul was writing in verse 11 was a direct continuation of the sentence he began in verse 10.

And if you read verse 10 and 11 together to make a sentence, it reads

"Aristarchus, my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sister's son to Barnabas (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him) and Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision."

He already mentioned the names of two other people: Aristarchus, his fellow prisoner, Marcus (Barnabas's Sister's son) and Jesus, which is called Justus.

These are the ones "WHO ARE OF THE CIRCUMCISION" and "THESE ARE" his fellow-workers unto the kingdom of God.

He was not saying "JESUS" is the title name for a group of people who are of the circumcision. You drew that conclusion by giving verse 11 an individualistic interpretation out of context.

And for the point of Jesus name being Capitalized in Luke 2v21.

Capitalization in bible greek or english is to denote emphasis, not to imply that a word means more that what is written. When a word means more than what is written (either to show sarcasm or depict something) it is put in quotation marks or inverted commas; (" " or (' ')

Many words were capitalized in bible greek that mean nothing more than exactly what was writtten. E.g

Revelation 19v16 -And He had on his vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORD.

"King of kings and Lord of Lords" here means exactly that -no hidden meaning.

Also. Revelation 1v4 -JOHN to the seven churches which are in Asia. Grace unto you, and peace....

"JOHN" capitalized here doesn't symbolize anything more than the name of the person writing.

Please, Capitalization is for emphasis not symbolization.

sukkot:
simile ? whwere the simile at bros ?

galatians 4 vs 14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.

sukkot:
hehe. its called the many mythology and misunderstanding of christianity

galatians 4 vs 14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus. <<< paul thanking the people for recieving him as jesus christ even though he was struggling with sin. like saying i thank you for recognizing me as the erediauwa ukwakolorkpolor even though i am an adulterer and a fornicator etc etc. so despite having some sin that they all know he is struggling with they still acknowedged him and treated him as a man endowed with the wisdom of the words of God

sukkot:

Ishilove:

My dear dont you know its a secret wedding? It is so secret that even i am not aware of it!

Dapo777:


Bleep off!!!!! Do u think every news u read on the media is genuine? If u are too gullible stay off the media kid.

Ishilove:

seun and Ishilove are secretly getting married?

How surprising!

Dapo777:

MEILYN:
....... Am shaking my head for u too mehn.

sukkot:
Bookmark i troway salute

LordReed:


He has come back as sukkot claiming 15th or 19th of this month as d-day for WW3. He claims the 17 weeks resulted in a war on Ebola LoL!

LordReed:


Wish that thread wasn't lost, some of the details outlined ought to be happening by now.

shdemidemi:


That is where the mistake or the error is. We do not like free gifts as men, we like it the hard way. How does the gospel of the grace of God encourage licentiousness! It does not, it humbles man and put man in a position where he can look at God as a God of mercy.

All God is saying through grace is that you are not under any yoke to obey, but He wants you to obey out of your own volition. He will not save anyone because they are good, come to think of it- no one is good.

The only man(Job) that claimed to be good and upright spoke like a fool when his defences were broken down by God. The same God showed mercy to jacob even before he was born and hated Esau, two boys from the same womb. If we were to judge by works, Esau should be God's favourite but God chose that deceiver called Jacob by grace.

The prodigal son, how the father should have made him a servant when he arrived. But, no. He was celebrated by the father and the supposed good boy was not part of the feast when the time came cos he was offended. Works v grace.


By works the children of Israel could not get into the promise land but by faith the ones below maturity seized that land.

Sis, no man is perfect. We are all a WORK-IN-PROGRESS.

honeychild:


it's called reading the Bible as a cohesive whole. NOT CHERRY PICKING but accepting everything it says. This debate is actually quite silly. And as far as I can see the "FAITH ONLY" proponents are just looking for an excuse to continue in their sinful lifestyle. Like the COZA pastor, you want to exist in a new level of grace. Jesus has one answer for such:
"Get away from me, you WORKERS of iniquity!"

Anyone who wants to read the Bible as a cohesive whole will come to a simple conclusion: You needo FAITH in Jesus Christ to come into a relationship with God. But you need works of holiness and righteousness to REMAIN in that relationship.

Good works alone cannot save. BUT FAITH, along with works of iniquity will certainly not save either.

EfemenaXY:
This thread isn't real.

shdemidemi:


List the things you know he came to do if you really want to know who he is. By the time you sincerely list some of those things, you will gradually realize it takes only God to achieve such task. None of the patriarchs nor prophet could achieve the fit.

nomabeeee:
and dt is simply ur own opinion..we re all here to learn.let's hear frm odas too.thanks