Don't you just love it, that not all Christians believe in your organization. You must ask yourself why did the JW's try to change the bible. What were they thinking? The JW's has caused such a problem between other believers who also follow after Christ. Do we all become a JW? because the JW's believe other religions are wrong, and the stories written about Christ is wrong also-look at Jesus and His disciples, the stories about them turned the world upside down.. The JW's believe the bible was written under a lie, and the true bible scholars were JW's who came into this world centuries later, to rewrite the truth who Jesus really is, He is the archangel Michael who came to earth to save us sinners. And Jesus's true disciples were Jehovah witnesses who are the 144,000 who were sent to earth, to clean up this mess the world had made, and their job is correct the truth about GOD. And even {John 1:1} had frighten the JW's because its a lie from the beginning? In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. And the JW's believe the word was a god, Not the word was God.
goodnews201668: One God? Yet one is giving the other authority? Na waoo, by the way john 1:1 didn't say they are one God. John 1:1King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word,and[b][/b] the Word was with God[b][/b], and the Word was God.
Two different persons, the word was with God. Can he be with God and still be the same God?
I think dolphinheart already knows it, but I believe he is showing off in front of his followers. Dolphinheart is God to the JW's.
johnw74: Lie Lie dolphinheart is so confused. Lies against the truth and causing strife do that to one
Jas 3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. Jas 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. Jas 3:16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
Like always nothing you say makes any sense. It really doesn't matter, the point is you had written it' for the public to see, calling yourself a lair ,you trying to deny it. Johnw74 had brought it back to your attention, this proves you don't even believe the truth in Christ. None of you JW's do. We on the other hand have given the JW's scriptures from the bible, and all you have done is rebuked them all, you are denying these scriptures even exist. Without you knowing you are really making a mockery of your organization, and what it means to become a Jehovah witness. Myself if I was searching for the truth, and I saw the rubbish you JW's write on this page, it would turn me away from that truth. And what is funny you are actually denying the word of God to those who are even reading this page.
dolphinheart: well, you had been lying before Johnny joined you. You cannot come out to say this is what I said, even when johnw74 provided you with supposed evidence. johnw74, on the other hand keep changing the words he claimed I said.
Both of you know that by posting the full text of what I said, readers will see your childish games. bet you are really pained that he could not quote my own words, but what should be paining you more is your inability, blindness and deliberate refusal to quote and explain the questions and scriptures posted in that post you responded to.
YOU SO MUCH WISH YOU COULD SHUT SOME ONE UP CUS YOU CANT RESPOND TO THE SCRIPTURES HE KEEPS POST ING TO YOU!
So you mean to tell the world the bible isn't the truth? The translations of these scriptures in {Philippians 2:5-7} are written wrongly, like in {John 1:1} I suppose the NWT bible is the bible everyone should be reading, and not the King James?
Jozzy4: Dogmatism has really affected ur thinking ability, why dont u see that this verse is translated wrongly ?
LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU , Wow , then We too should count it not robbery to claim equality with God ?
Lets hear what the JW's have to say about this verse. This must be one of the most favourable scriptures in the bible, One short passage that claims Jesus being in the form of God. {Philippians 2:5-7} kJV "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taken the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of men. {John 1:1} Did not consider it robbery to be equal with God.
I do like reading it, I wonder if dolphinheart would like reading this too?
johnw74: You have to understand that they are one God, God is one, and you have to understand that they are two persons,concerning John 1:1 I won't say more on the matter than that, with the disbelievers that frequent this place, don't give your pearls to the dogs etc. also others explain things much better than I.
theres plenty of good explanations given with scripture backing if you want to read them
That's right, and we are the ones pissing them off at the moment. JW's work in ways of waves, if they think they have a foot hold on somebody, they send in the big guns, but when that somebody turns around with bigger guns, their first reactions against that somebody is, they change from the nice guy into raven wolves casting that first stone of hatred, black listing against those who refuse to listen.
johnw74: The more that false jw lies are exposed, the more they call out "LIAR"
JW's are all the same, without them having the spirit of God, what more can I say? They argue over words they don't even understand, their own blindness allows them to only see what isn't there. I have had arguments with dolphinheart myself over scriptures, his own blindness won't allow him to go any further with the word of God. JW's can't see the scriptures the way the Spirit of God shows us. Dolphinheart is like a broken record he will find every verses he could find, that he believes it sounds-he doesn't understand what the Lord shows us. He is actually turning the word of God up side down, every verse we have given him, he finds another that sounds sightly different and sits on it, calling us lairs because we have given to him 'what God had given to us. Under false pro-tenses, he is actually calling the word a lie. If he knew the word of God as he makes himself out he does, then his rotten fruit wouldn't stand out in the open so much as it does now.
These JW's haven't a clue who's speaking the truth, half of them wouldn't even believe dolphinheart, if you look at their fruit, most of them are trying to take scriptures from the KJV rather then take scriptures from their own NWT bible. The reason to that is" they don't believe in their own bible, because they have scriptures written in their, that proves their Jehovah God is actually Jesus. They ask questions we answer them rightly and they don't even return back to us with a reply.
johnw74: Yeah he did lie and twist all over the place , captivator was happy to support him in his lies, they are truly satans disciples as per John 8:44
So does this mean you didn't watch the video? Pity you may have learned something good about yourself and who you stand for. Christians around the world already know about the molesting of young children, and pornography that is happening inside Kingdom hall, a cover up story that the watchtower hides their hidden agenda's away from the world. The victims of crime' had finely revealed the truth' Many of our friendly neighbourhood JW elders are secretly masturbating and having sex with young victims while they do their door to door knocking spree, under false agenda's men and women claiming to know God, seeking the innocent, under the authority of the watchtower-the house of darkness that's involved inside the organization of freemasonry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-w3smjZUgM
And what does the church do? Nothing.
CAPTIVATOR: and you think shouting Jesus is God is what it means to know Christ , ur case is pathetic I tell you.
There is no excuse you said it. Maybe you should watch what you say on this page. Someone had returned to you, what you do to others. Mr self righteousness dolphinheart himself.
dolphinheart: EVERY ONE, PLS NOTICE THAT HE COULD NOT POST OR QUOTE MY FULL POST
brocab, pls comment, since you are eager to shut me up.
FOR STATERS TO THOSE READ ING THIS POST, BELOW IS MY FIRST POST ON THAT THREAD, UP TILL THIS MOMENT ON THAT THREAD. HE COULD NOT QUOTE AND EXPLAIN THE SCRIPTURES IN THAT FIRST POST, NOR COULD HE PROOF THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS WRONG.
my post: [b]Is the son the same person as the father ? no
is the son equal to the father? no, "the father is greater than i" the son says
did the son ever claim to be God almighty, God of isreal, the most high God? ? no, he only claimed to be the Son of God!
does the son sit on the same throne and have same authority as the father? no he sits at the right hand of God .
was the son given commands? yes, the almighty God cannot be given commands
does the son have a god (someone he worships ) ? yes, " I ascend to my Father... and to my God " he says.
does the son do things on his own? no , he does what the father tells him to do.
does the son show subjection to the father? absolutely yes
does the son have a beginning ? yes does the father have? no
does the Scriptures seperate the person of God from the person of Jesus ? yes, all the time
has jesus described God? yes , he called him the father, " the only true god"
has God described jesus? yes , he called him " my son, in whom I'm well pleased"
is jesus subjected to God? yes
can you be with someone and be that same person? no
it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!. you also thus claim that Jesus and God are equal, something the scriptures never mentioned nor surpport.
for those who seek life, listen to this words
[b]Joh 3:16“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
Joh 6:40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”
Joh 20:31But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.
Eph 1:3Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ,
1Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
1Co 8:5For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 1Co 8:6there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Eph 4:6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all[/b]
These are the scriptures in which those who believe in Jesus and the father being the same God would not want to discuss with you , they prefer that the scriptures contradict itself so as to be able to hold on to their false beliefs.
The scriptures explains itself , after reading about the relationship between God and Jesus, it is left for us to now decide if the word is the same God it was with, or if he was a god who was with a much superior God, the almighty.
heb 1:9You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”[/b]
After his refusal to explain those scriptures I told him: @ johnw74 , the above are absolute truths, that's why you can't refute any of them. you want to post about your doctrines, those scriptures I posted show's your doctrines are false!. that's y you can never ever explain those scriptures.
DID YOU NOTICE WHERE I TOLD HIM HIS DOCTRINES ARE FALSE! THE DOCTRINES ABOUT WHO GOD IS ? I DID NOT STOP THEIR , I SHOW ED HIM MORE SCRIPTURES HE COULD NOT EXPLAIN!
the above will continue to stand as the truth, and surporters of false doctrine will continue to run away from it!
Re 1:1A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John,
Re 1:5and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood— yes Re 1:6and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.
King James Version Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Jesus has told us countless of times who my God is, he prayed to that God, thought me how to pray to that God, told us about his relationship with that God who exalted him above his companions. I will not worship a man made God, a two or three headed God, for Jesus has told me , the father is the only true god!
Joh 17:1Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you, Joh 17:2just as you have given him authority over all flesh, so that he may give everlasting life to all those whom you have given to him. Joh 17:3This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
one should read John chapter 17, it tells you more about the relationship between jesus and God. [/b]
As you can see the thread is titled "Jesus Christ is God" and as you can see the opening post is an Exegesis of John 1:1
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The thread is about John 1:1, the Word being God, which I also said in post two the OP and myself are agreeing with John 1:1 that God and the Word are both God, two persons one God, it's always been my belief.
dolphinheart said in post four "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God" and that is referring to my God, "God and the Word" John 1:1
To clear this up, you need to watch this video, this will help you understand what your organization stands for. I don't know about you, but for myself, I always need to know the truth about Christ..
CAPTIVATOR: Many religious groups have made "prophecies"--actually, predictions--of things that would occur, some even giving specific dates. These include Lutherans, Baptists, Anabaptists, Presbyterians, Mormons, Assemblies of God, the Anglican Church, Catholics, and more. Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only group who have ever made predictions based on their understanding of Bible text that proved to be wrong. However, many lay more blame on Jehovah's Witnesses then any other religious group due to the fact that they hate us, thinking of us as a unorthodox. Some argue that Jehovah's Witnesses have gotten too specific, choosing certain dates as the return of Christ. To them, this is what characterizes us as a cult? Well, look at three people who predicted times for the return of Christ who are well respected religious leaders. "1836 [will be] the end of the non-chronos, and of the many kings; the fulfilling of the word, and of the mystery of God; the repentance of the survivors in the great city; the end of the 'little time,' and of the three times and a half; the destruction of the east; the imprisonment of Satan." -John Wesley Wesley's Notes of the Bible , written throughout his life, 1703-1791 "I sincerely believe that the Lord draweth nigh. We may have another year, maybe two years, to work for Jesus Christ, and, Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe it is all going to be over ... two years and it’s all going to be over." -Billy Graham, 1950 at a rally in Los Angeles, California "Christ has given a sign by which one can know when the Judgment Day is near. When the Turk will have an end, we can certainly predict that the Judgment must be at the door." -Martin Luther
[size=27] Martin Luther, Billy Graham, and John Wesley were not false prophets. They did make predictions based on their interpretation of the Bible that turned out to not be true but that does not make them guilty of false prophecy. They are guilty, though, of making these things seem as if they were without a doubt. [/size]
Jehovah's Witnesses, on the other hand have always told people that their interpretations of events could be wrong. "We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them." -Regarding 1914: Zion's Watch Tower, January 1, 1908, page 4110
"The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year." -Regarding 1925: The Watch Tower, January 1, 1925, page 3
"'What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?' asked Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. [size=28] But we are not saying. [/size] All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975.'" -The Watchtower, 15 October 1966, page 631
To be honest, I myself is not really interested, but I do believe you, and you are right about dolphinheart, he will find away to lie around his own lies.
johnw74: Finding it won't shut him up, he will just twist away and lie, you know that,
The KJV was written from the 1611 version, in this day and age-other bibles don't seem to have that same field the King James has. Other bible translators have either miss quoted scriptures, or had removed scriptures completely from the bible. And the New World Translation bible had twisted the scriptures and removed them completely from their bible.. Removing the scriptures from the bible can cause problems when sharing the word of God. Look at the evidence we have dealing with the JW's, and still they don't understand the truth about Christ.
solite3: first of all I am not sure you understood what the post was all about. Let me give you a brief explanation while you go back and read. The book of revelation is the most difficult text to translate. Why? I. There are only few manuscript available ii. Most of these manuscript are incomplete iii. the late canonisation of revelation may be due to it's early corruption iv. The church fathers may have possess the authentic one which was also used by the textus receptus v.the so called early manuscripts have been proven to have variants. vi. Modern translations just follow this so called early manuscript only because they are "early" not mining if it was inspired or not vii. There is high probability that these early manuscripts were not genuine but these modern translations rush to use them because they want to be different from the KJV and because they want to make money Let me stop here KJV still remains the best translation quote me any where As for your allegations, they are just allegations I m not saying kjv is 100% perfect but 98% sure
Did dolphinheart say that, God and the word is a two headed god".
johnw74: bro, there are so many Bible verses showing that the Holy Spirit is personable, and there is no forgiveness for any who blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, and yet false jw say the Holy Spirit is an "it".
They will hold onto one verse and disbelieve a multitude.
God is a Spirit, and God is Holy, Christians know that the Holy Spirit is God, and not an "it", false jw blaspheme all over the place.
They know nothing but lies, taught them originally by the father of lies.
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
@underline, the pharasees were part of murdering Jesus Christ.
false jw blaspheme God preaching that Jesus Christ is "a god" and that the Holy Spirit is an "it"
dolphinheart said that God and the Word is "a two headed god"
You should do what I do, and not commune with them except to show up some of their lies now and then, we are not supposed to throw our pearls (truth) to dogs and swine.
Jesus said: Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
^^^ That's what false jw do isnt it, with all the scriptures we post to them, they trample them under their feet and then turn and attack you.
There is much in the Bible about pharasee jw and other sectarians and non believers.
To explain these 3 questions lets look what the bible had said, but my question is to you, do you honestly believe in the scriptures? {John 17:21} Father just as you are in Me I am in you. {Romans 8:11} And if the Spirit of Him {God} who raised Jesus from the dead IS LIVING IN YOU" He who raise Christ from the dead, will also give live to your mortal bodies because of His Spirit who lives in you. Human beings have been created with a Spirit Soul and body {Genesis 1:27} So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him male and female. {Thessalonians 5:23} So may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely, and may our hole Spirit and Soul and Body be kept blameless at the coming of our lord Jesus Christ. It has been said we are not bodies with souls, we are souls with bodies, The body" the outer man is our physical housing which we experience the world. Our bodies function primarily through the five senses and by meeting innate that drives us to eat, drink and sleep, our bodies are not evil but are gifts from God. He desire that we surrender our bodies as living sacrifices to Him{Romans 12:1-2} When we accept God's gift of salvation through Christ, our bodies become temples of the Holy Spirit. {1 Corinthians 6:19-20, 3:16}
goodnews201668: Father lived in Jesus and Jesus lived in father? Jesus is the father because he has God's spirit? So you are saying my spirit is another person living inside me?
If I wanted to read a book I would. But in any conversation, I find it is best to keep it sort and simple, this way we could have a good conversation. But when the other party only want's to do all the talking, not allowing to other to speak, then the conversation ends up not being a conversation, but a loud mouth who thinks he knows it all. Have I just described dolphinheart.
goodnews201668: So why are you avoiding dolphinheart questions? You read the part you like.
That's a big change from you, I thought JW's only believe in the Holy Spirit is something of a active force. And how does an "IT" testify to another Spirit
And with your "spirit" and your "flesh and blood" these two "live as One, and you are alive. Jesus had a "Spirit" too, His "Spirit was God"s Spirit" Both "Spirit" and "flesh and blood" became One, and living. The Father lived in Jesus and Jesus lived in the Father. And Jesus said I Am alive.
dolphinheart you ask for answers, so we good Christians give them to you, and then you refuse them, by comparing the scriptures, you have argued over words that is written in the bibles, you are trying to turn the word of God against each other, and of course you are calling us lairs because "we" as in you" have shared the word from these bibles we all read from. Really how can anyone take you serious? Everyone who has access to the net, can find all the information they need about the word. Truly "you are mocking not ourselves' but you are mocking the word of God. What your problem is your blindness can only take you further away from the truth.
dolphinheart: I view this as another attempt to divert attention from the fact that you and brocab cannot answer some questions. You have totally ignored the fact that you lied against me when you claimed I made a statement relating to Jesus having one nature with God . You have asked me to point to where I explained my words, I did so. You say that's not enough that I should repost them, I did that now you are still repeating that I should show you where I explained, all this while refusing to modify your deliberately muddled up reply to those posts where I explained what I said. you quoted and replied those quotes(albeit it was muddled up with you attributing fo your own post some of my own words). If you decide to stay blind to the words I posted, there is nothing I can do about it, but it should not stop you from answering questions posted to you long before that.
do you know when you asked me this question, it was because I asked you a question that you can't answer , hence like a dubious person you decided to answer back with a question.
READERS CAN FIND THIS CONVERSION IN HIS POST MADE ON MAY 19 ,9:54PM.
I ASKED SOLITE3 THIS QUESTIONS
JESUS HAS A GOD ? YES OR NO JESUS IS SUBJECTED TO THAT GOD ? YES OR NO IF JESUS HAVE A GOD, HOW CAN HE THEN BE GOD ALMIGHTY!
he could not answer the question above but felt it's cool to answer a question with a question. that was why I replied him with this :
"only dubious people answer question with a question, hope you are not dubious . If you are not, then pls answer the question, then you can ask yours!"
HE CALLED ME A HYPOCRITE, YET FOR WEEKS HE COULD NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BELOW your questions are still pending Jesus has a God, yes or no,? Jesus is subjected to that God , yes or no if Jesus has a God, how can He then be almighty God ?
2. on April 27 jEphz "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... "
3. April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ?
4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?"
who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up , or give part response
Of course we all believe you" Jesus is Michael the archangel, the first born of all creation. Of course you know God better then us believers.
goodnews201668: Do you even know Christ? Of course not, because if you do you won't say Christ is the father. Jehovah's witnesses unlike you have the true knowledge of Christ, who he is, what he stands for and his relationship with the father.
How many times do we answer your questions and still none of you understand them. Jesus has a God, I have a God, the angels have a God, we are all called sons of God.
Jozzy4: Why cant u answer that scriptural question? Because u are not sincere, and u know answering will expose you
WHO IS THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ? EPHESIANS 1:17
Jesus said one must be born again before He could enter into Heaven; that leaves you out dolpohinheart, you are born into the JW's organization, that has nothing to do with Christ.
dolphinheart: WHAT DID JESUS OUR SAVIOR SAY ABOUT GAINING EVALASTING LIFE? King James Version Joh 17:1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: Joun 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. Joh 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
SOME CLAIM JESUS IS FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN BUT CAN NOT EXPLAIN HOW JESUS BEING FULLY GOD WAS : 1. Giving authority by someone else King James Version [b]Joh 5:26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; Joh 5:27And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. imagine, claiming someone is fully God yet he being given authority by someone else!
2. giving power by someone else King James Version Joh 3:35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
English Standard Version On one of those days, as he was teaching, Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was with him to heal.
Guys, check out the only true god! Jer 27:4Give them this command for their masters: “‘“This is what Jehovah of armies, the God of Israel, says; this is what you should say to your masters, Jer 27:5‘It is I who made the earth, mankind, and the beasts that are on the surface of the earth by my great power and by my outstretched arm; and I have given it to whomever I please. can you guys see the difference!, yet they claim jesus is fully God.
3. Is not able to take any initiative by himself except what he sees another doing.
King James Version Joh 5:19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. imagine fully God can do nothing of himself.
4. will be shown greater works King James Version Joh 5:20For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
5. calls someone else his God. [b]King James Version Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
6.cannot give certain things King James Version Mt 20:23And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
7. does not know certain things matt 24:36 English Standard Version “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
8. fully God and yet said this. King James Version Mt 27:46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
SOME PREFER TO USE UNSCRIPTURAL WORDS AND TERMS TO DESCRIBE JESUS, BUT WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURES SAY WHEN JESUS CAME TO EARTH.
john 1:14 English Standard Version And the Word BECAME FLESH and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the ONLY SON FROM THE FATHER, full of grace and truth.
King James Bible And the Word was MADE FLESH , and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
did that verse say Jesus added flesh to his divine nature? no did it say Jesus had two natures? no what glory did it say we beheld , God ? no , son of God ! JESUS WAS MADE FLESH, JESUS BECAME FLESH!
WHEN JESUS BECAME FLESH, DID HE RETAIN PART OF HIS DIVINE NATURE , TALK LESS OF ALL OF HIS DIVINE NATURE?
phil 2:7 English Standard Version color=red]BUT EMPTIED HIMSELF[/color]but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men
International Standard Version Instead, poured out in emptiness,a servant's form did he possess, A MORTAL MAN BECOMING. In human form he chose to be,
Isa 53:2, 3He will come up like a twig before him, like a root out of parched land. No stately form does he have, nor any splendor; And when we see him, his appearance does not draw us to him.3He was despised and was avoided by men, A man who was meant for pains and was familiar with sickness. It was as if his face were hidden from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account.
brocab, you know I like asking you questions, telling you to explain the scriptures to me and expecially to thousands of people reading this thread. so pls brocab can you explain this two scriptures?
King James Version Da 7:13I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Da 7:14And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
You did demand to find out where I fellowship so who's changing the issue
dolphinheart: nice try, but pls dnt( once again) try to change the issue at hand
issues at hand: [b]And yet no response from you on the issue you yourself raised? also up till now , you have not answered these questions
you have also refused to respond to these questions and scripture:
[b]Just tell us the name of the church you associate with, that you are a member of!. If possible you can include its official website, at least you surpport using technology in Gods work.
Tell us, do you know that Jesus Christ told someone that he has a God? And that statement was recorded in the kjv.? Can you tell us where this can be found? If you can't answer this question brocab, then you dnt know the truth about Christ!. Expecially. The one spoken by Jesus himself.
Examine this questions brocab 1. If you say one body, one spirit, was Jesus a spirit before he came to earth? 2. When Jesus was on earth, was the spirit in him his, the father or the holy spirit.? 3. After Jesus left the earth, did he remain in the body or became a spirit? 4. What does Jesus mean by " the father is greater than I am" 5. Why does Jesus say he is going to the father when you are trying to say he is spirit. 6. You asked a question, the answer is yes, but ill like to ask you, what about the soul, why did you remove the soul when fomulating your question.
You cannot answer if Jesus is the same person as the father.
brocab , readers will note(again) that you have NOT quoted and explained ANY of the following scriptures :
1.rev 1:1,6 2. Rev 3, 2,13 3. John 17:1-3 4. Heb 1:1 -9 5. John 20:17 6. 1 cor 11:3 7 . 1 ti 2 :5,6 8.Acts 4:10 9. Acts 2:36 10. Acts 2:24 11. Acts 5:30 12.Acts 10:38,40,43 11. Phil 2:9,11 12. john 14:6 13. Acts 4 : 26,27, 30 14. 1 john 4:14 15. Heb 5:7 16. ps 28:18
And a host of others
Brocab , examine these scripture Acts 5: 31. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jesus is Gods only begotten son, Jesus is not God almighty!
YOU HAVE AGAIN ADDED LIES TO YOUR VIEWS. Lets see if jesus was recognizable to those who knew him:
King James Version Joh 20:14And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS JESUS!
King James Version Joh 20:15Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? SHE SUPPOSING HIM TO BE THE GARGENER, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
I dnt think the disciples would have been able to recognize Jesus more than Mary, she probably would have known jesus from birth, and the picture of jesus in her memory would have been sharper than a 100 mega pixel camera!
but here you are , lying again that Jesus was recognizable to those who knew him! dnt you think Mary should have been able to recognise jesus instantly if he had been raise in the same body he died in? * this is a question ill hope you can give us answer to .
Do you notice how jesus appeared to his disciples who had locked the doors, his actions transcends the physical realm, he appeared to them gram!, in a locked rooM!. yet until he showed them death dealing wound marks, that was when they believed they where swing the Lord.
brocab pls tell us 1. DOES SOME ONE FACE CHANGE WHEN HE OR SHE IS RESSURRECTED WITH THE SAME BODY HE OR SHE DIED IN?
2.DOES SOME ONE GETS RESSURRECTED WITH THE WOUND'S OR INJURIES THAT KILLED HIM? If your assumptions are true, I bet during the ressurection, we will know those whose throut where slit, cus there will still be a gapping hole in there necks. and those whose brains where blown out will have a hole in their head, cus they will be resurrected with that same body!
before, I digress, let's further examine ya lie. King James Version Joh 21:4But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: BUT THE DISCIPLES KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS JESUS.
john 21: 12 New International Version Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord. even after seing jesus after his resurrecting, after being with jesus for years, they still do not recognize Jesus at first glance. If jesus had been resurrected with the same body he had died in, the disciples will have no doubt, they wunt need to even bother to ask the question that dared not to ask, "who are you". Jesus had just showed them who he is, it is left for us to understand that they still had issues with jesus physical features, despite knowing that the person inviting theM to a meal is actually jesus.
I for one believe that only spirits do appear and dissappear at will!
spirits can manifest physical bodies of any liking for any particular purpose, the scriptures is awash with such occurrences, they can even use it to have sex sef!
sir do you ever read the scriptures at all. It says flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God! human body is flesh and blood! how then do you espect the king of gods kingdom to have flesh and blood while his Co rulers do not! how do you expect the physical to rule in the spiritual realm.
brocab, Jesus was a spirit before he came to earth, was he not? how come , you refuse him his spirit nature when he had accomplished the work he was sent to do here on earth?
Jesus is not Michael the Archangel. The bible no-where Identify's Jesus is Michael {Or any other Angel for that matter}{Hebrews 1:5-8} Draws a clear distinction between Jesus and the angels: "For to which of the angels did God ever say you are My Son, today I have become your Father? Or again and I will be His Father and He will be My Son? And again when God brings His first-born into the world, He says let all Gods angels worship Him. In speaking of the angels He say's, He makes His angels winds, His servants flames of fire, "But about His Son 'God say's "Your throne "O God" will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your Kingdom. The hierarchy of heavenly beings is made clear in this passage. Angels worship Jesus who, as God, is alone worthy of worship. No angel is ever worshipped in scripture; therefore, Jesus{worthy of worship} cannot be Michael or any other angel {Not worthy to worship} The angels are called sons of God{Genesis 6:2-4, Job 1:6,2:1, 38:7}But Jesus is called THE Son of God.
Michael the archangel is perhaps the highest of all the angels. Michael is the only angel in the bible, who is designated "The Archangel" {Jude 1:9} Michael the archangel, though, is only an angel. He is not God. The clear distinction in the power and the authority of Michael and Jesus can be seen and comparing in {Matthew 4:10} Where Jesus rebukes Satan, and {Jude 1:9} where Michael the archangel "dared not to bring a judgement of blasphemy against Satan and calls on the Lord to rebuke Him. Jesus is God incarnated {John 1:1, 14} Michael the archangel is a powerful angel but still only an angel. I do hope this will give you some insight who Jesus and Michael really are. God's word can only speak in truth. It just show's the world 'how Nuts your religion really sounds. Jesus is not Michael the archangel.
Sarang: Satan filled the king of Babylon with the ambition to have complete domination over the earth, even over “Jehovah’s throne” (1Ch 29:23) and “the stars of God,” the kings of the line of David sitting on the throne at Mount Moriah (by extension, Zion). This “king,” that is, the dynasty of Babylon, ‘lifted himself up’ in his own heart and was in his own eyes and in the eyes of his admirers a “shining one,” a “son of the dawn.” (In some translations the Latin Vulgate term “Lucifer” is retained. It is, however, merely the translation of the Hebrew word heh·lelʹ, “shining one.” Heh·lelʹ is not a name or a title but, rather, a term describing the boastful position taken by Babylon’s dynasty of kings of the line of the line of Nebuchadnezzar.) (Isa 14:4-21)
Since Babylon was a tool of Satan, its “king” reflected Satan’s own ambitious desire. Again, Jehovah came to the salvation of his people by restoring them to their land, until the real Seed of promise should come.
So lets assume that Lucifer is Satan,then are you telling me that God called Satan his son?
It was Jesus,the one he called Son and asked to sit on his right hand.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:01am On May 29, 2016*. Modified: 3:20am On May 29, 2016
Like always nothing you say makes any sense. 
The more that false jw lies are exposed, the more they call out "LIAR"