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Luke 9:20 "Jesus asked who do you say I am?
Have you forgotten this is the question I had asked you to explained in your own words, who do you say Jesus is to you.
Not scriptural, don't give Peter's description, nor anybodies else's, Just give your description?
It's a simple question. Give it your best shot? Cult or Church, who is Jesus to you?
I will even answer a couple of your silly question now.
Jesus sacrificed Himself to save all man kind, He shed His own blood, for His own people.
The JW's have a better idea' they would rather sacrifices OTHERS, to save themselves, all in the name of Jehovah.
Besides who are the JW's married too?
The Jews didn't have a choice, to stand up against the Nazis, believe it or not, there is a book written, some where out there, called the Spirit of destiny, this book describes, he's private army had witnessed in eye view the spirit of Satan had entered into Hitler. So it doesn't matter if the JW's had stood their ground, Hitler's plan was to take over the world.
And if the JW's stood their ground all in the name of Jehovah, than who did they fight for? JW's don't fight for no army.
Hitler hated God's people the Jews, and Hitler once said to take over a country, you must disarm it first.

dolphinheart:
Humble, kind hearted ones are seeing the truth everyday and jehovahs witnesses as an organization continues to grow spiritually. They continue to maintain their faith and beliefs even during persecutions. You no do 1/100 of what hitler did! And yet they stood against him, not with guns and weapons, but with their faith in jehovah.

if you are truthful, can you tell the whole world the stands of jehovahs witnesses as to marriage?
and have you seen them dissolve any marriage union before? Do you hear cases of divorce in their marriages like you hear about numerous pastors and religious leaders today?

How happy,! how joyful,! How fufilled they will be at the ressurection when they see their only child again!, knowing fully well they had followed jehovahs directive and had been faithful to him, believing jesus when he said, " he that loses his life for my sake will have it back" . This time its evalasting in a joyful new world, far far better than what blood transfusion would have given you in a short life full of strife and pain and bad news.
I've personaly seen someone being transfused with blood die due to the blood he took and not the injuries he sustained. Taking blood is not a guarantee to life.


You lie!.

You lie again.(@ bold)


God determines the growth.
1 cor 3:9


You still have a lot to read about the scriptures . Go and read what will happen to faithful servants of jehovah after your so called rapture. Go and read Matt 5:5 and ps 37:29. Go and read about those who will survive the great tribulation.

You should read your own stuff-you are acting like a fool, you just can't get your head around the truth.
Like I said the JW's have a habit of just picking out a few verses instead of reading the hole chapter, Which proves my story.
Read before you reply. Eeeeeediot, you didn't read it because the truth bites you on your ass, everytime.

blazer234:
Boy, you comment like an eeediot. I didn't read most of your steupid comment coming from your demented mind.

You say our churches are deserting our members, didn't you read all that page I wrote about the two X JW's, now belong to the true faith of Jesus Christ, had joined with us, as born again Christians.

There are thousand of X JW's who have either lost their loves ones, through marriage, because the JW's had separated them both, {Only because one is not a follower of the JW's} and its not lawful for two to stand together in the eye's of your organization Jehovah.
Which of the Jehovah, do you follow?

Our God said: {Mark 10:8-9} "And the two shall become one flesh, that they are no longer two but one flesh, therefore what God has joined together let no man separate. Till death do we part is written on every marriage contract.

Lets look at your final decision you make when your only child dies because you won't save her life' given her the blood she needs to live.
JW's Jehovah believe humans and animals blood are the same, and is all contaminated.

Our God said: {1 John 1:6-7} "If we say we have fellowship with Him and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practise the truth. But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the Blood of Jesus purifies us from all sin.
JW's can't accept the fact that God made us in His own image, which means its the blood of Christ that saves lives, God's blood isn't contaminated.

Do you honestly believe your Church will keep growing, and I bet you believe your Church will be last one standing on this earth in the last day's, "I believe you"

Because Christ will have already called his Church to be with Him in the air, As He Promised. {1Thessalonians 4:7}

joyandfaith:
That is why members of your church are killing themselves in war front.Jehovah has been protecting jw while your churches are being desserted by your members. only thing you preach is material prosperity. very soon most people will stop going to churches while jw will keep growning.

Prove your point, you say you have stop listening to the protestants since 2003, firstly Obama wasn't around in 2003.
Neither was Pope Francis.
I don't care its not your decision to say if I will go to heaven or not, Christ is the door way, not you.
Its funny you say you have stop listening to this since 2003 and you answering me in 2016-that's 13 years apart.
You Catholic's are very sensitive, no-ones against anybody, you all seem to react on the bad's instead of trying to understand we aren't against you personally, its what you believe in, and because you haven't received Jesus into your hearts, to become born again, which means accepting the Spirit of God into your life's. Matter of fact all we are doing is trying to help you become like us, how Jesus wanted you to be.
We are not against you.
When some one has a dig at me, about my beliefs, I don't get all upset, I already know the truth, and if they don't accept that, that's there problem, the lord has enough men and women out there who are working for him, I can only do my bit, to help bring in a sinner and believe in Christ. No-ones against you, its your Church we are finding out these things, and our job is to help bring you closer to the Lord. Amen.

blazer234:
Prove that they are wrong about what? About Obama or about pope? And it is shameful for your lot to base your conclusion on an audio that could have been recorded by just anybody. Very shameful. I am a Catholic and I know the church is not misleading me. You are free to hold TENACIOUSLY to your negative and destructive opinions about the catholic church. It is your problem not mine. I am not asking you to come to my church. If you feel the church you are is the place God ask you to be, good for you. As for me, God wants me to be in the catholic church; he convinced me of this some 13 years ago (may God not enable you to belive that..amen). So stay in your church, while I stay in mine. Who even told you that you will make heaven?

Listen there is no truth in you, I was there, and I witnessed what I had seen. You JW's are all the same, you will lie because you are trained to lie.
And God was with us that evening, Haven't you heard God is a jealous God, and He will do anything to protect His own.

joyandfaith:
you have no direction in your arguement. it is a sin to lie against fellow humans. satan is father of liars. you are are sasying wrong things about jw and God will ask you. let holy spirit guide your life gal 5:22,23. thanks

If you stopped listening in 2003, then why are you listening in 2016, you know why because you are no more than a busybody and a gossip, and you have been listing to the truth since all this began.
And I wouldn't be surprised you were the one who helped the Antichrist who started it.

blazer234:
I suspect you these protestants are confused. Initially you said pope john paul II was the antichrist. Later you said it is barak Obama. Now you are saying it is pope Francis. After a while, you will say it is Muslims. Your own confusion is even monumental; you seem not to know who to blame btw technology and pope francis to be the antichrist. You people are bunch of confusions. I stopped listening to your bunch of rabble rousers since 2003

Your word isn't good enough-Prove they are wrong?

blazer234:
I suspect you these protestants are confused. Initially you said pope john paul II was the antichrist. Later you said it is barak Obama. Now you are saying it is pope Francis. After a while, you will say it is Muslims. Your own confusion is even monumental; you seem not to know who to blame btw technology or pope francis to be the antichrist. You people are bunch of confusions. I stopped listening to your bunch of rabble rousers since 2003

No-Actually, I wasn't the first one, their were hundreds of protestants before me, I am one who is kind enough to find them in you tube, and show the Catholic's the evidence.
Like this one>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moaXuWJryu8
This is why I had shared with you about technology, you say its not true, and the net say's it is true, so is it true? or isn't it true?
Don't forget everything is written down somewhere.

blazer234:
Were you not the one who first commented that the pope is the Antichrist? Now it is not the pope again; it is now internet.

I assure you no-ones masturbating over anybody who's involved in the Catholic Church, that's something the priest would do? As the world hears.
The Catholic/apostolic Creed, are they your written words? Do you understand and speak Greek, or Italian or ever what languages the Pope speaks off.
Or are these words the popes, and someone had interpret it in written English?

But the sad thing about all this is, all across the net, their's so much information that had flooded the internet, about everything, and everyone is heading in that same direction where this information is building its kingdom. either the Pope's innocent or not, the internet controls the minds of every person that lives on this planet, having easy access "technology is the beginning to destroy manhood, technology is now the control system Us parents once had.
Without technology the new generation can't possibly survive, technology is the new survival drug in town, every business, in every home, on their phones, "wherever" every ones addicted. The internet is a addition, like any other addition that controls to shut you down away from the world.
Technology is the beast he has power to control this generation and the next, we are living in the times, the days, where technology will destroy all man kind with just a push of a button.
Revelation 13:3 "And who will follow after the beast.
The beast has risen, and technology is used as his tool, His purpose is used to take man away from God, And technology is either full of truth or full of lies, it can be used to draw God's people further away from Him, or draw people closer to Him.
So if this is true or not, Gods knows.
And the days are here-the Church will stand before God, and the books are opened, and it's judgement day.
No-one knows-only God knows.

blazer234:
Those of you who are condemning the Catholic church, you should check out our creed (the basis of what we profess/the foundation of our faith) before you pass comment. You should have asked yourself how reliable is the source of the story you are all masturbating over. To help inform you, I am showing our creed below. Ask yourself if there is any link between that creed and what the pope said. If there is no link, then it is possible that statement is not from the pope but was just fabricated.

THE CATHOLIC/APOSTOLIC CREED

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit
and born of the virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to hell.
The third day he rose again from the dead.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty.
From there he will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body
and the life everlasting. Amen.

You need to stop threatening me, you are boring me, I don't have to do anything for you, I have answered all your questions you have provided over time, and you keep on repeating yourself over and over, same questions' you are trying to put me into a corner with your trick questions, reading them out completely different doesn't make you more intelligent then I, as the other. It doesn't prove your organization is the top of the range-we are not in a court of law.
If I choose not too answer any of your silly questions {that you call a request} than I have the rights not too.
I thought you said you are a Christian, Christians are not bullies, trying to stand over me, isn't Christ like. Request you say. I call it more like heavy duty demands.
It seems you are more afraid what others will think, is it really me, they will judge, or is it you, they have judged.
There's no-one out there who really takes any notice what the JW's have to say anyway, I have dealt with the JW's for years, I even know a few X JW's who have shared their own stories with me' about the ins and outs about your organization.
The Lord has been looking after me, To know not to join up with you.
Over the years we have all seen how the JW's talk the talk and walk the walk-you prey on your victims, like a hunter preys on his, I always believe the quickest and the easiest ways, is the best way.
And of course the JW's used this same method as well, but their mentally of it all, they use it against men, and against the word of God to catch out younger Christians.
I will share with you a little story, and this true story happened to me years ago, my own experiences I had after allowing the Jehovah Witnesses come into my home.
When I was a young Christian, the JW's would walk past my house many times, just watching to see who comes in and who go's out, until one day 4 of them made a daring leap to my front door, We spoke, and we shared with each other about the word of God, I opened up my KJV and of course the JW's brought out his NWT version, different bibles didn't make any sense.
Later that day the JW's weren't quite satisfied so they asked if they could return another day, they asked if they could bring with them a couple of elders "I agreed" so I decided to arm myself up, I did quite well too, I brought in a couple of elder Christians I knew, and of course two X JW's, who knew the NWT bible really well, And of course they knew the ins and outs of your organization, and after listening to them for an hour or two speak that evening, the JW's had drop their mouths, and finely they agreed these X JW's were speaking the truth.
God was sitting with us Christians that night.
And you remind me of those JW's who also had trouble understanding the word of God.
I already know how the JW's like to be pushy and just read one verse out from the scriptures instead of reading that hole chapter. And you remind me, you are still writing those very same lines the JW's wrote back then.
You are trained to confuse the word of God, your hole idea is using one elder to play along with the other elder, trying to use trickery against young Christians in believing your organization holds the truth about the word of God.

I have never forgotten that evening, I remember every verse one elder had picked out, the other elder would jump to the next verse trying to confuse the idea, but we would hold that verse together' and read the hole chapter, and what was so amazing the thing that stood out to me was, I realised the JW's didn't really understand the word of God, but just a few verses here and there, just enough to draw the people in to join their religious beliefs. It was a great evening they would change their attitude quickly, when they themselves are put into a corner knowing they couldn't answer the truth about Christ, like you do, on this page.
For someone who isn't quick enough in the word of God to answer the many verses you JW's give,
{I tell anybody who is reading this page, always remember don't look at the one verse look at the hole chapter} The JW's plans are to keep you away from Christ and believe in their false religion. That alone is a ticket to hell.
So I pray that whoever reads this, take note, I pray you haven't already signed your lives over to Satan.
Because I am telling you, the JW's have no truth in them, they will not lead you to be with the Lord for eternity.
Plus I am still waiting for you to reply back to me, where's all the questions I have asked you? I don't see you replying any of them back? Matter of fact you seem to shy away from these important view points. Its most likely you are running away from these questions only because you don't know any of them, slipping out the back door hoping no-one will notice my questions, won't make a difference to me I will keep on knocking and I won't come in>until one day you may have enough sense to know the truth about Christ.

Jesus said: Who do you say, I am? Mr dolphinheart Would you be kind enough to answer this from your own heart who Christ is to you? It's a simple question? Nothing scriptural-don't give us viewers' Peter's description, Thanks.
Jesus said: by their fruit you will know them.

dolphinheart:
@ brocab
The writing of an epistle will not help u. If you dnt answer the questions asked and comment or share your view on the scriptures giving as requested, then your long post will be seen (as always) as an attempt to deviate from the issues under discussion.
Your attempt at not answering the questions and scriptures will be noted while looking at the new issues you have brought up.

Eccl was not talking about being made in Gods image, but nothwithstanding, can you find a single verse where it is said that man partook of the divine nature when created?
You do not understand what being made in Gods likeness mean.
We are flesh and blood, but we have the attributes of love, justice, mercy etc. , things animals who are also flesh and blood do not have! We can process thoughts in ways that animals can't.

Everyone knows that, is that why you said animals dnt have spirit?
Up till now you have refused to tell us why you said so and why you refused to acknowledge or express your views on eccl 3:19-21.


We dnt have a soul inside our body, we are souls!, you are not even sure about your statement. If I should ask you to identity the soul and what it does in the body now, you will only find another thing to talk about.

"The only Hebrew word traditionally translated "soul" (nephesh) in English language Bibles refers to a living, breathing conscious body, rather than to an immortal soul. In the New Testament, the Greek word traditionally translated "soul" (ψυχή) has substantially the same meaning as the Hebrew, without reference to an immortal soul..........
...... The modern scholarly consensus holds that the canonical teaching of the Old Testament made no reference to an "immortal soul" independent of the body. A wide range of scholarly reference works consistently
represent this view.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_in_the_Bible

Gen 2:7 reads :
King James Bible
[b]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Does this verse go along with the statement found in eccl 3:19- 21? Yes. Most expecially the part that we, me and you brocad, came from DUST!

The question you should now consider is , do animals have a soul inside or are souls.

Next time, always complete what you are trying to say, we are not spirits to know what you are thinking. You said " but outside, we are not the same". I ask you, we are not the same what?!!!.


I don't agree to what?!!!. Tell me what I dnt agree to!



Does this mean that animals dnt have spirit cus man was created in Gods image?


Is these verse the reason why you believe that animals dnt have spirit? !


You are so wrong, making mention of the soul , body and spirit does not mean we are made up of the three, Gen 2:7 has giving you the beginning of man, how he came to be a soul!
Have you watched the movie concussion( based on a true life story) go and watch it and you will understand how the flesh controls or affects our mind.
Can you tell me what happens to the soul and spirit of a mad man? Is the soul mad too?


Why did you then initially say " man may have soul inside" and then come back to post these above. Do you really understand what you have been posting since ?! Or you just post them as you see them without first grasping what it means?


You made these statement :
"As it says the spirit of man
go's up wards and the spirit of a animal go's down wards."
You have not been able to show us how you know that spirit of animals go downward, what you are now trying to do is tell us what eccl did not say. We already know it did not say spirit of animals go to heaven, pls tell us how you came about to state that the spirit of animals go downward.

Do not look at what eccl did not tell you, look at what it tells you even though it goes against your belief. Ill post that verse again later .
One does not just spill things and expect everyone else to believe without adding proves, examples and extra info. You dnt teach people things without giving them an upportunity to find out the truth themselves.



You say something and show us a bible verse that says something else.
Did you see spirit in that verse? No. So why do you think they are spirits?

Did the preceding verse mention soul or spirits? It said soul? So why are you now implying it was spirits?
Stop trying to deceive people with false analogy and doctrine!.



Where this saints spirit? No.
Did they go to heaven? No. They went into the city.

Brocad , you have again failed to show us that human spirit go to heaven. You dnt know the scriptures!

To be continued......

Yes I agree the protestants Churches are no better.
1 John 2:15 "if you love the world and everything in the world the love of the Father is not in Him..

Its always the case isn't it, the younger Churches should take on all the blame, only because the Mother Church is to gutless to take on her own responsibilities, after all she had taught her youngsters her ways how a family should act, And after the crimes had been committed and one of her youngsters are caught in the act, then the world blames the acts, but not the facts. Youngster's learn what they see, and if they see the Mother in the act, then they usually follow.
And because you and your groupies are so proud of your Mother Church, bragging how you are more Christian then the protestants, And the protestant Churches are involved in these same crimes the Catholic Churches are involved in still. Then its right for the protestants as the youngsters to direct all the blame back to the Mother of all Churches the Catholic Church.
Because you have made your claims clearly' that your Church is the Mother Church of all Churches, the head {brain} while we are expected to sit as her body, Then the brain of the Mother Church tells her body, what to do.
And since you are part of the Mother Church you are supporting her evil deeds against the body to commit such crimes against her own Children.
Who will follow after the beast>The Mother Church that continual's in crimes such as Child molesters still, homosexuals still, lesbians still, stalkers and perverts still, thieves and robbers still, gang members and drugs still, Mafia and gangsters still all sinning, and all are sitting under the banner of the Catholic Church.
And what does the Church want "FORGIVENESS, and what does the Church do' "NOTHING?
Jesus said: By their fruits, you will know them.

Ubenedictus:
Brocab u are in a thread where d op shared untrue news, instead of facing him u allow ur prejudice get the better of you. look brocab ur bais is showing.

If u are talking about crimes committed by churches remember to add the crimes protestant churches committed and they dont even have d dignity of apologising for it. It seems d catholic church is much xtian than ur protestant ones.

Only man is made in the image of God parktaking of His divine nature. God didn't make animals in His own image, we may have a soul inside but outside we are not the same. And still you don't agree.
Genesis 1:26-27 "Then God said let Us make man in our own image, according to our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. "God created man in his own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Man can kill animals.
2 Peter 2:12 "But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed.
1 Thessalonian's 5:23 "Both men and animal are trichotomous, having both a soul and a spirit; now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirety; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete without blame at the coming of our lord Jesus Christ.
Animals are described as "living creatures/souls" in Genesis with exactly the word as a man {soul nephesh}
Ecclesiastes 3:21 "Doesn't prove a animal's spirit go's the heaven. even thou the scriptures tells us there are horses and living creatures in heaven, but no-one can prove earthly animals go to heaven, it isn't written in the bible is it?
But the bible does prove a man's spirit go's to heaven.
Revelation 6:10 "And the saints cried out how long O lord will you avenge our blood.
Matthew 27:52 "The tombs were open and many bodies of the saints who had falling asleep were risen.

Try and have some understanding this time, your demanding is starting to bore me. You know yourself I am not willing to follow after your kind, I believe in Christ, {you say you believe in Christ but not the same way the bible teaches us about Christ} and I am a born again Christian, and their is no other religion out there that will change that in me.
My beliefs in Christ may sound to you a bit over the top, but I assure you, if you knew Christ, like I believe in Christ, your hole life will just change, your eye's will open up, and you will see the word of God working inside your mind, you will hear and see Him in your visions, in your dreams, you would know the differences between the truth and not the truth, the word of God will fill your heart up with so much wisdom and knowledge like Jesus' even at the age of 12 years, your appearances will change, God's love will pour out like rivers of living waters, God will shine through you, everywhere you go, you won't think of any other then the Lord, you will know where you stand with Christ and every word that you study fills your heart up with the glory of God. Your light will shine.
I sit here in front of this computer, and I answer as many reply's I can, and the Lord puts the scriptures in my heart sometimes quicker then I can write them down..
Since I have knowing Christ my knowledge is far advanced in the word of God. And theirs nothing out there, that could change my mind who I love more.
Knowing Christ It's a hole different ball game. Everyone says they either heard about Christ, and many say the know Him through the scriptures, try knowing Him when He lives in you.
You must understand I am not here to be in some kind of a competition with you, I have shared with you the word of God, and if you don't want to accept His word, then move on.

dolphinheart:
@ brocab

Don not close your eyes to the truth brocad, the verses quoted says more than what you quoted above, go and read it again!
You claim that animals dnt have spirit!, I have corrected that belief of urs using the scriptures as guide, but instead of believing what the scriptures says, you rebelled agaist the scriptures and claim it said something it did not say!
Did you ever read in that verse that the spirit of animals go downwards? If yes can you show us ? If no, then why do you lie against the scriptures to perpetuate your false beliefs?

You asked an incomplete question, so ill wait for you to complete the question before answering. You said "and you believe we are all the same?" , my answer to you is : all the same what!?

Ill leave you with the verse again , maybe you did not read it well.

Eccl 3:19-21
for there is an outcome for
humans and an outcome for
animals; they all have the
same outcome. As the one
dies, so the other dies; and
they all have but one spirit.
So man has no superiority
over animals, for everything
is futile. All are going to the
same place. They all come
from the dust, and they all
are returning to the dust.
Who really knows whether the spirit of humans ascends upward, and whether the spirit of animals descends
down to the earth?

Read the scriptures brocad, dnt depend on youtube

As it says the spirit of man go's up wards and the spirit of a animal go's down wards. and you believe we are all the same? TO BE HONEST YOU JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT CHRIST LIVES.

dolphinheart:
@ brocab

If that's the way you see it, no problem. Just note that people know better and they see you can't answer scriptural questions.


You sha like to always talk about yourself!

And yet you still refused to give us ur own understanding if the scriptures I quoted. You believe you have the understanding yet you are not telling us your view of the scriptures I quoted.


You think this your post will change the fact that you did not know man and animals have same spirit? Bet you where shocked when you read that scripture, but pride wunt make you admit it but push you to try and change the topic, acting as if you never said "animals dnt have spirit".

Pls read the bolded part of the scripture posted below, I did not say it! It can be found in the word of God, the word of God you claim to know!

Eccl 3:19-21
for there is an outcome for
humans and an outcome for
animals; they all have the
same outcome. As the one
dies, so the other dies; and
they all have but one spirit.
So man has no superiority
over animals, for everything
is futile. All are going to the
same place. They all come
from the dust, and they all
are returning to the dust.
Who really knows whether
the spirit of humans ascends
upward, and whether the
spirit of animals descends down to the earth?

Again I ask you, hope you learnt something
from the scripture above.?

You know nothing about the soul, and I'm beginning to wonder if you know anything about the spirit.!

The question will be posted to you again since you re still refusing to answer
1. Is Jesus the same person
as the father?
2. Does Jesus have a God?
3 .Is Jesus subjected to
someone?
4. Is Jesus the same person
as the most high he is sitted
beside?

You used "yehovah" several times in your post, hence I repeat the questions
5.Abeg what language is
yehovah? And why does the
kjv not use it?
6. Is jesus yehovah!?

I can still bet you wunt answer these questions in your reply as you refused to talk about the scriptures quoted.

I find it very hard talking to you about the word of God, only because you haven't any understanding in any of the scriptures that I have laid out to you. No-one is refusing to answer these scriptures, you just don't understand either of them.

dolphinheart:
@ brocab

If that's the way you see it, no problem. Just note that people know better and they see you can't answer scriptural questions.


You sha like to always talk about yourself!

And yet you still refused to give us ur own understanding if the scriptures I quoted. You believe you have the understanding yet you are not telling us your view of the scriptures I quoted.


You think this your post will change the fact that you did not know man and animals have same spirit? Bet you where shocked when you read that scripture, but pride wunt make you admit it but push you to try and change the topic, acting as if you never said "animals dnt have spirit".

Pls read the bolded part of the scripture posted below, I did not say it! It can be found in the word of God, the word of God you claim to know!

Eccl 3:19-21
for there is an outcome for
humans and an outcome for
animals; they all have the
same outcome. As the one
dies, so the other dies; and
they all have but one spirit.
So man has no superiority
over animals, for everything
is futile. All are going to the
same place. They all come
from the dust, and they all
are returning to the dust.
Who really knows whether
the spirit of humans ascends
upward, and whether the
spirit of animals descends down to the earth?

Again I ask you, hope you learnt something
from the scripture above.?

You know nothing about the soul, and I'm beginning to wonder if you know anything about the spirit.!

The question will be posted to you again since you re still refusing to answer
1. Is Jesus the same person
as the father?
2. Does Jesus have a God?
3 .Is Jesus subjected to
someone?
4. Is Jesus the same person
as the most high he is sitted
beside?

You used "yehovah" several times in your post, hence I repeat the questions
5.Abeg what language is
yehovah? And why does the
kjv not use it?
6. Is jesus yehovah!?

I can still bet you wunt answer these questions in your reply as you refused to talk about the scriptures quoted.

Quote>Jesus was authorised by God Himself to shed His blood, Who authorises you?
Jesus did, I sacrifice everyday, with the blood of Christ, to witness too you. Your fruit' tells my story.

Lev 7:11-14 "Not this is the law of the sacrifice of peace offerings which shall be presented to the Lord. If one offers it as a sacrificial meal of thanksgiving, then along with the sacrifice with thanksgiving he shall offer unleavened cakes, mixed with oil. Verse 14 "Of this he shall present one {cake} from each offering as a contribution to the Lord; it shall belong to the priest who sprinkles the blood of the peace offering. The meat of the sacrifice thanksgiving presented as a peace offering shall be eating on the day that it is offered.
Where does it say, you shall not give blood to save a life? This scripture, Is about a peace offering to the Lord, nothing in here sounds anything like you believe it to be.

Genesis 9:3-4 "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you; I will give you everything, as I gave you the green plants and vegetables, but you not eat meat along with its life, that is its blood.
Again the Lord has given us food to eat, and as I said earlier, after our kill, we drain the blood before we eat of its meat.
This has nothing to do with not given blood to save a persons life.

1 chronicles 11:17-19 "David had a craving and said, Oh that someone would give me a drink of water from the well in Bethlehem, which is next to the gate, the mighty men brought the water to David. But David would not drink it, he poured it out to the lord {as an offering} and he said, far be it from me before my God that I would do this thing! Shall I drink the blood of these men who have put their lives in Jeopardy?
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU JW'S THINK, IT SEEMS YOU BELIEVE ALL BLOOD THAT IS EITHER REMOVED FROM A DOCTOR, OR IS REMOVED SOME OTHER WAY EITHER FROM A ROAD KILL OR STRANGULATION IS CONTAMINATED. THIS IS PROBABLY WHY THE JW'S DON'T BELIEVE IN GIVEN BLOOD TO HELP SAVE A LIFE?
AM I RIGHT? Or maybe you could shed a little light on this subject, just so I can understand, why you would rather see your love ones die.

Acts 15:20-29 "But that we write to them that they to abstain from anything that has been contaminated by being offered to idol's and from sexual impurity and from {eating the meat of} what has been strangled. Verse 29 you keep yourselves from these things and you will do well.
Of course no-one eats the dead animals of the road, even after they had been involved in a road kill, nor do we eat meat that is rotten.

Sarang:
So you saying because you dont get high on eating blood,its okay to eat it? I think its you twisting God's law.

Do you know how many times the bible kept repeating,abstain from blood?
Yes you wouldn't think twice about giving or taking blood because actually you don't fear Jehovah. Except by mouth.

Read in your scriptures Lev 7:11,14.
Gen 9:4
Ich 11:19
Act 15:20,29
If at all you read the scriptures,since I have not seen you mention any. Read the above scriptures and tell me once again that it is our religion that manuvers it.

Jesus was authorized by God himself to come and shed his blood. Who authorizes you?
Like the scriptures said"To obey is better than to sacrifice". We do not wanna twist the scriptures so that it harmonizes with the way we live our life,we wanna live our life in a way that harmonizes with the scriptures.

You really don't understand the scriptures do you. Of course they all received the holy Spirit, but Peter was the one out of them all, who always wanted to prove himself towards Jesus.

Sarang:
Peter was not granted the holy spirit ALONE.
All of them were. Stop making it look as if peter was especially privileged more than the rest. Thats not true.
He was a confident and outspoken man.

Woe to those who tells use God'd name tell lies, The word of God says Revelation 18:4 "Then he heard another voice from heaven say "Come out of her my people,' so that you will not share in her sins, so you will not receive in any of her plagues.
Uben I don't dislike you, matter of fact some of the things you write are quite funny, they don't match up to the word of God, as you think they do. Most of the times you are quite childish, wanting me to pull something's out of a hat, that's been their since page one, so you can prove your point, but that doesn't always happen, you run and hide when it is proven against you, hoping everyone will forget the rubbish you have declared against me in the past.
I have got to say you have a strong belief when it deals with the Catholic's, But the problem with you and your groupies is, and for us who don't belong, or believe in your Church, you come against us like we are your enemies-is it because we find something interesting and we share our findings on this page, you may feel we are attacking you, but we are not, we stand our ground in the name of Jesus, we both believe in two different doctrines, you say you recognize the Father and His Son Jesus, but you put Mary's name above all other names.
When someone says something about my beliefs I always search for the facts, this is what you should be doing instead of coming against us like a bush pig.
Attacking us without having any facts, your behaviour just shows us the Catholic Church is worst off, where it was before, listing to you and your groupies shows us outsiders nothing's changed the Church is still cruel to the people.
And when we search the net and find the information that's needed, and after listing to your example's, we lay our information out on the table in front of you, only because you aren't any different to our findings.
You and your groupies should be supporting the Church, to help us all believe the Church is really sorry for the crimes they had done in the past, but you don't, and their must be a story behind why you don't? Your behaviour shows us the evidence, you aren't really interested, to support the idea the Church has en-stored for the future. Is there a reason to this?
And if the Church is trying to retrieve forgiveness from the world of the crimes the Church had committed in the past, with the cruelty you have showing us on this page, you are not given your Church a chance.
If you are a true Catholic then act like one. If you truly believe in Mary, do what Mary would do.

Ubenedictus:
WOE TO THOSE WHO USE GOD'S NAME TO TELL LIES.

Its great you are using me as your tool to learn about the word of Yehovah, but It takes time to answer to your demands. Listen I am not expecting you to understand the things I have written in a short time, so I have kept my head together and I am relaxing, waiting on the lord. Just sit back theirs plenty of time, we will learn the truth in no time.
You may say you read the scriptures, but without you understanding them, the scriptures won't have any means to them.
I have explain the word of Yehovah time and time over, and you still can't work them out, listen you must relax, and wait for the SPIRIT OF YEHOVAH to answer you. There is no rush, the word of Yehovah has been around since day one.
I don't speak on my own authority but Yehovah's authority alone. The word of Yehovah isn't about head knowledge, we need the Spirit to teach us all things.
Get with the program and Let yourself move on to the next subject.
Because you STILL don't understand this last subject.
And if you believe you are equal to an animal, then don't give blood to help save a life, save yourselves, and let them die. Just like the animals do with their own.
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW I HAVE USED YEHOVAH all would you prefer YHWH Yahwah, instead of Jehovah?

dolphinheart:
@ brocab

The attempt at playing psychologist will not shield you from the fact that you can't show ur view on scriptural quotes, neither where you able to answer the questions posed to you.
Repeatedly reffering to yourself shows the kind of person you are.


You need to read the scriptures, cus you dnt.

Eccl 3:19-21
for there is an outcome for
humans and an outcome for
animals; they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals, for everything is futile. All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust.
Who really knows whether the
spirit of humans ascends
upward, and whether the spirit of animals descends down to the earth?

Hope you learnt something from the scripture above.?



I like your style, you can't tell us if you call or dnt call souls "spirits". That's why you say spirit and put soul in bracket beside it. You know nothing about the soul!

Its important cus it tells a lot about who we are, soul and spirit are not the same thing and it seems you dnt know the difference.



Asking you questions about jesus is now silly in your eyes. It a politician that can't answer a question that will start attacking the source of the question. Simple questions you refuse to answer!

1. Is Jesus the same person as
the father?
2. Does Jesus have a God?
3 .Is Jesus subjected to
someone?
4. Is Jesus the same person as
the most high he is sitted
beside?
Reflect on these question and
if you feel you can answer
them? Pls let us know.

On Gods name.
5.Abeg what language is
yehovah? And why does the
kjv not use it?

6.Since you now know the
name of God, why dnt you
use it?

Galatians 2:19-20 "For through the law I died to the law and it's demands on me {because salvation is provided through the death and resurrection of Christ} so that I might {from now on} live to God. I have been crucified with Christ {that is in Him I have shared His crucifixion}; it is no longer I who live, BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME. The life I now live in the body I live by faith {by adhering to, relying on, and completely trusting} in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.
I am not expecting you to understand this, after all you would rather see your love ones die, before you would consider saving somebodies life.

Sarang:
God doesn't live inside you. He gives his holy spirit directions to help you. I wonder who you think you are that God himself will come and live inside you discarding his abode.

You were trained to know the bible and to speak it,that is how you came to do it.
When the bible speaks about us being made in God's image. It isnt talking about a particular person,its talking about us all and it means we were made in the qualities that God have.

Have you ever seen where a criminal is been beaten?
Despite what he did,if the beating isnt stopped.. your heart will be touched..that is kindness. Its one of God's qualities we have.
Whenever we witness an injustice,we are pained. We would want to see fairness melted out. Thats just. We are just.

We think,most times before we act. We crave discernment and seek knowledge. This is wisdom. We are wise..

And many more.
These are all Jehovah's qualities given to us.
With the ability to feel,pity,know,think...
We were made in God's image.

But what is that to do with you not given blood to save a life, people are not animals, after we have made our kill, it is right to drain the blood first before we start preparing to cook it.
If we didn't bleed the blood it would be like road kill.
I wouldn't think twice about giving my blood, if my Child was dying and the only way was to save her life was she needed my blood, I would be the first to give her just that.
As far as I am concerned if you allow your Child to die, without given your blood that's needed to save her life, you are a murder just like those who have told you not to give her blood to live.
And its not the scriptures that have told you this, it's your organization who have twisted the word of God, so you will believe.
I would risk my own life to save another, just like Jesus shed His own blood on the cross so you and I can live.
If you share needles while you are on your cocaine addition, its not the same as drinking blood, you don't get high on blood, you get high on cocaine.

Sarang:
We do not take transfusions because To Jehovah blood is sacred. He commanded both Noah and the isrealites to abstain from eating blood. Paul also mentioned it in Galatians that eating a strangled animal or eating blood be it animal's or human's is same as fornicating. Thats how precious blood is. If we take blood transfusion,we eat blood.
Eg I do not take Cocaine through my nose but I normally have it injected inside of my vein,do I not take Cocaine?
Its same.
Wether you eat or inject it,makes no difference. You took it.
Thats why we abstain from any blood of any sort.
Our doctors tries their best to bring in other options that are better than blood. We care for our brothers..

Still we do not undermine our belief nor bring reproach to Jehovahs name in a bid to save our lives since we know that he will ressurect us in the new system of things.

Peter spoke out because he felt he was the one who had to prove himself, even Jesus said peter will deny Christ 3 times, Jesus knew He didn't have to ask the others they were more laid back. Jesus also said to peter get behind me Satan, you don't know what you are saying.
Peter was a brave man but deep within he was more confused. And to make Peter a better person Peter needed the Holy Spirit to watch over him.
Peter was strong, but not so bright.

Sarang:
Peter personally was an outspoken and brave man even without the holy spirit. He is not the only apostle Jesus had but he's always,always the first to speakup,or defend.
Its his nature.
Some people are timid,shy or outspoken.
Peter on his part was an outspoken man.

Without you realizing you are actually learning the truth about the word of God.
This is why I keep this compensation going with you, I have seen some good changes in you, and of course I do notice you are getting all worked up, but that's understandable, when I was an atheist, and every time someone spoke to me about the word of God, I was feeling angry too, like you I thought I knew better then the other fellow.
Animals don't have Spirits, people do, some call souls spirits and others don't. But it isn't important.
But I may ask, where do you get these silly questions from, are they from you, or are they the questions the JW's ask you to give?
If you are trying to prove you have some sense up on top, then think again, your knowledge can never over power the word of God.

dolphinheart:
Again everyone can see how you have changed the issue again.
They can see how you have once again refused to give explanation on your understanding of the scriptures I quoted. Not even one did you comment on but went on to give an epistle on the spirit in you.
The sly attempt of linking the spirit with the soul shows you know nothing about the soul.

Is jesus the same person as the father?
Does jesus have a God?
Is jesus subjected to someone?
Is jesus the same person as the most high he is sitted beside?

Reflect on these question and if you feel you can answer them? Pls let us know.
Also pls stop this continous analysis and advertisement of urself , you've done it several times and only the gullible will fall for it. Everybody knows you have a spirit in you, its the same spirit that's in every human and animals. That's what the scriptures says, but to liken that spirit to the soul is wrong!

On Gods name.
Abeg what language is yehovah? And why does the kjv not use it?

Since you now know the name of God, why dnt you use it?
You still have some few things to learn about the tetragrammaton.

Yes Jesus did receive gifts on His birthday by 3 wise men and the shepherds.
Jesus birthday was around March April, its the only time of the year when the new lambs are born. Not like us humans babies they are born everyday.
People may say good things about others only because they either know that person well enough, or in most cases they are hearing it from someone else, someone once said to me, if you can tell a good yarn well enough, people will believe it.
And if people are saying nice things about your organizations, its because they are either part of the JW's or maybe some ones not telling the complete truth about you.
If you told them the truth, instead of hiding the facts, that they can't celebrate their birthday's or spend time with their families on these special days, Christmas, Easter or Thanks given, or any other holiday, nor associate with their friends, could cause a up roar, but because none from your organization speak any truth about yourselves, of course you will have those speaking highly about you.
I ALWAYS SAY HONESTY IS OUR WAY TO SUCCESS.
If the JW's were up front in the first place with their honesty, and told the people the truth about your organization, you wouldn't have people like me speaking out the truth about you.
God gave us our birth rights, and I Celebrate my birthday in remembrance that the lord brought me into this world, and gave me a life to live. God the Father give Jesus His birth right and He celebrated Jesus's birthday in remembrance He is the God of this world sending in 3 wise men and the shepherds, given Him gifts, and glorifying God praising Him.
It doesn't matter how poor we are' or how rich we are-Christmas is a day, that brings people together, who cares if we celebrate it in the wrong time of the year, but at least it brings families and friends together, spending that special time showing our love and becoming a family once again, given gifts to each other, just for a smile, either spending time with the Lord or not, where their is love, God is in the mist of them all. God is Love..
No-one supports war, and besides every war that happened either in the passed, and now, isn't about people dying its about money and power.
No I think you have put yourselves in prison, you are free to a certain level, but your Children are lock away from other Children.

dolphinheart:
Continue changing your stance, you soon change this one soon.

Ill tell you one more time, look at this thread, go back and read it from page one, you will see many people who are not jehovahs witnesses who tell you good things about them, who advertise them in a positive way. Even you, yes you, replied them on their views trying to paint them wrong.
You say they are not in their right mind, you view people who appreciate a congregation that does not support war as not in their right mind.
You view people who support an organization that do not carry weapons as not in their right minds. Bro it is nice that that you are showing people your understanding of "right mind".

You think I'm in prison, it you that needs a false date to celebrate that is in prison, I'm happy every day and do not need anyone to fix a date for my celebration.
Bet the Jews, jesus disciples, the apostles and early christians where in prison too for not celebrating the festivals you mentioned, festivals which belong to the world and its ruler, Satan.

By the way, what day is the special day of jesus? His birthday? Did you read from the scriptures that jesus received gifts on his birthday?

Yes we are all made in the image of God.
And when I speak the word of God, I don't do it on my own accord, its God that lives in me who speaks the word of God. My flesh will die, but my Spirit lives on. I don't speak to you on my own authority, but the authority of God.
Peter words were' Jesus is the son of the living God, Jesus said flesh and blood had not revealed this to you, but my Father which is in heaven.
The Spirit of God can live in me, and change me' to be like Him.
By their fruit you will know them.

Sarang:
One question for you bro.
Can someone live with you and be you?

Then when a JW needs blood why do you let them die?
Jesus came here to save a life not destroy one.

Sarang:
Abel's blood here refers to Abel's life.
In the scripture Jehovah told Noah that he must not eat an animal with blood-its life,still on it.
He has high regard for blood cos he has high regard for ANY life. Be it Snail. Gen 9:4.
(Read also lev 7:26,17:11,14)

Abel's spirit didnt appear lol
His life was unjustly taken and to Jehovah he was crying out for justice.

What?

Sarang:
Wrong definition.. actively enforced.
Here my definition means he is always active and in action. And that is why it is a force. A force can be domicile or in motion but this one is actively in motion because Jehovah uses it always just like you mentioned above,

Yes he will send the Holy spirit in Jeus name because by means of Jesus we were able,even worthy to receive the holy spirit.
Minus that,we are no-where near God. God is holy,we are sinners.. but by means of Jesus death,we were given the privilege of becoming Jehovah's friends. Jesus deserves that much and Jehovah knows it.
Jehovah owns the holy spirit..and he is willing to give it out on behalf ofJesus to his disciples.

Example when peter walked on the sea,did you know what happened?
Jesus noticed he had faith at first,and Jesus,using the power of Jehovah kept Peter above the winds-swept waves.
Jesus doesn't do anything on his interest. Like he says he does it as Jehovah wants,his will.

I am not calling myself a leader, I am saying thank you, for recognizing I am rock solid in the word of God.
Peter wasn't courageous, it was the Spirit of God that spoke through him, the message was Jesus is the Christ and the son of the living God.
These words did not come from the flesh, but the Spirit of God.
I don't speak on my own authority, I speak on God's authority. The words you read, is not my words but god's alone.

Sarang:
Lol.. I mean your heart is locked unlike peter's,his was courageous. If you noticed peter was always the first person to talk, and to take action.
Jesus knew he was courageous. But he didnt make him the leader,no
Their only leader was Jesus himself.

Then this is where you need to be?
In our beliefs we are free to talk about the gospel, when ever, we don't have to go out in the heat of the day with our brothers in Christ, we just spread the word when the Lord tells us the spread the word.
Sometimes it can be over the phone, other times it could be when we are doing our shopping etc..
For we walk in faith not by sight, {living our lives in a manner consistent with our confident belief in God's promises} But someone may well say, you have faith without the works, show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

Sarang:
If there's anything I like about Jehovah's witnesses,its that ALL are EQUAL. No priest,no one in high places.
We hang out together,walk in the scorching sun together,eat together,suffer together,we are in this together..I HAVE FOUND THE TRUE RELIGION.

Indeed we are brothers. Matt 23:8

I was only trying to reason with you, trying to be nice-but because you are so much of a wringer, I still believe someone had used you tube as a sauce to reach out. If you had a brain you would know how to think for yourself, listen no-one in their right mind would advertise your religion.
Anywhere. People with sense, would rather be free in the word of God, then put themselves in a prison like system.
The JW's had already proven who they really are, and of course someone inside wanted to world to see more about you. We already know JW's don't believe in any other but themselves, you believe you are the only true Church, and the true witnesses.
But what you don't believe in, God said 6 day's you must work, and the 7th you must rest.
In other words its a holiday, a holy day a celebration day, like Birthdays, Christmas days, Easter days. School holidays, Thanks given.

It must be sad to see your Child sufferings, missing out on all these special days.
It must be sad to see your Child looking through the window watching the other children play?
It must be sad, to see your Child sitting alone in the school yard not playing with others?
It must be sad to see your Child being pushed aside when they need you most.
It must be sad to see your Child not receiving any gifts on their special day{Birthday}from you.
When we know Jesus had received gifts on His special day.
It must be sad to see your Child lying in bed at night crying before she sleeps.
It must be sad to see your Child coming home each day after being bullied by others.
It must be sad to see your Child in hospital needing blood knowing she will die.
It must be sad to see your Child living under the control of the JW's without having a choice.

And do you really believe someone outside the Kingdom Hall will set you up, advertising your religion, if anyone had joined they too will end up in a prison type religion like your child.

dolphinheart:
@ brocab


Your stance has now changed. Its now does not matter who put videos on youtube. Dnt worry, na Small small e go dey change.

You have seen on these thread people who are not jehovahs witnesses talk about the activities of jehovahs witnesses. Yet you still find it hard to accept that some people can post videos about jehovahs witnesses despite not being one.



Its no longer jw.org that put the videos on youtube, its now "someone from the inside". Continue!


You might want that, even like that method.
Nothing wrong in imitating jesus. He did not sit comfortably somewhere. He went to them, talked to them, listened to their problems, questions and request, discussed with them and gave them the right answers.

I dnt have to convince anyone, all I'm being assigned to do is to people about the good news that the father commanded jesus to proclaim. It is the Individual that will convince himself that what he or she is learning or have heard is the truth. And are there people who get convinced that what they heard from jehovahs witnesses is the truth? Yes.
Their numbers increased daily, these numbers are not just members who attend their services, but those who actively preach the word that they are convinced on to others. The watchtower and awake still maintain the highest and largest and most distributed published issues every month , despite not being supported by tithes or the praise of rich men.

I am not mocking you, so I don't want you to feel I am, but if you could read what I have to say, you may understand which way I read my bible, and how I understand it.
I am not expecting you to understand between the flesh and the Spirit at the same time. But if you could just sit back and try and listen to my understanding of the bible, then maybe you would understand why us Christians believe Jesus and God are One in all.
Using scriptures is one thing but to understand them is another, the bible wasn't just written only for the flesh to understand, the bible was written in the Spirit, and the only way to understand the Spirit side of things, is to become a Spirit filled Christian.
This is why we are having trouble between each other' because you are trying to work out the scriptures written' inside your own head..
I just don't think like you, and when I have answered the scriptures, you had me to answer, you just don't seem to understand the things I understand.
Jesus spoke in parables, in ways that the people who stood around Him understood Him, He spoke of herds, goats and sheep, saying My sheep know My voice.
And in those days when the shepherds would all go to the same water hole with their herds, the shepherds would call his own sheep and his sheep knew the owners voice and they followed him out from amongst the rest of the sheep that belonged to other shepherds left their to drink. Jesus is the shepherd and we are His sheep, My sheep know MY voice
He spoke of the wheat and the tares, the servant said to the master of the house, sir, why have you planted tares with the wheat, the master of the house said an enemy has done this to me, the servant then asked sir, shall I take out the tares from the wheat and throw them into the fire the master of the house said "no, let them both grow together until harvest time, and then we will separate the wheat putting them into the barns, and throw the tares into the fire. Christians are the wheat, and the tares are the enemy.
And this is how I see the word of God, And when the bible tells me no-one has seen God at any time, and God tells me He is a Spirit, and Jesus lived amongst men in the flesh as a man, then I see a Spirit living inside a man's body, also I have a Spirit {soul} living inside me, and when I look into a mirror, I don't see any other person standing with me, I only see myself looking back at me.
So when I read the word of God. John 17:21 "that all of them may be one, Father just are you are in Me and I am in you, may they also be in us so the world may believe that you have sent Me.
So when I read this scripture, I see it as Jesus had prayed, the Spirit of God now lives inside me, the Holy Spirit teaches me as Jesus had said He will, how to tell a Christian by their fruit you will know them.
The fruit of the Spirit shows me how to pray to the Father, reminds me on scriptures I had forgotten, the Spirit leads me into the word of God, The Spirit has helped me through the tough times. And when I pray to God, It may look like I am talking to myself, but like Jesus I am talking to my Father in heaven, who lives in me in the Spirit.
This is why John 1:1 stands out to me, at the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word is God. They are both connected together as One person. The Spirit living in the flesh..

And plus the right way to spell Jehovah is Yehovah. God's name is YHAH YHVH' not Jehovah, the Hebrew name of God is EL, ELOAH, ELOHIM. God's name is YHWH not Jehovah, Jehovah was popularized in the English speaking world by William Tyndale with other pioneer Protestants translations such as the Genvea bible and the King James Version, it is still used in some translations, such as the New World Translations, and theYoung's Literal Translation, but it doesn't appear in most main steam English translationssuch as the terms, "Lord or LORD" used instead, generally indicating that the corresponding Hebrew is YAHWAH YHWH.
The Hebrew name of God YAHWAH. Jesus real name in Hebrew YESHUA?

dolphinheart:
@ brocab


I've already accepted the word of God, expecially the scriptures below.

John 17:1-4
Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you, just as you have given him authority over all flesh, so that he may give everlasting life to all those whom you have given to him. This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do.

Who gave jesus work to do on earth? The father!

Who sent jesus? The father?

Who gave jesus authority over all flesh? The father?

Who gave to jesus those that jesus will grant evalasting life? The father!
Who is the only true God? The father!

Verse 8
because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me.


Do you believe that the father sent jesus? If no is your answer, then you are not part of the people jesus is reffering to in the verse above.

This verses(above) correspond and helps to understand fully what jesus said earlier

John 5 :19,20
Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner. For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does, and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.

Verse 24
Most truly I say to you,
whoever hears my word and
believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.


John 14: 28,31
You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am. But for the world to know that I love the Father, I am doing just as the Father has commanded me to do.

Who sent jesus,? do you believe in him.? Do you believe that that person is greater than jesus.?

Simple, easy to understand statements made by jesus shows who the almighty God is, who the only true God is and who sent jesus. this statements you refuse to accept and that is why you can't tell ur view on the following scriptures

Heb 1:9
You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God,[/u anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”

John 20:17
Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, [u]‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”


Up to the moment you posted this, sarang never posted what you said above, especially the underlined. Learn to first understand what people are saying before jumping to conclusions.
You have refused to comment on Sarang 's question to you

" Brocab Why does the King
James version has Jehovah in
some part of the verses and
Lord or God in others?
2) Who wrote the king James
version?"

Jw.org is a website, not a word to signify something is from jehovahs witnesses. Finding a name on youtube does not mean its the bearer of that name that put it there.

Again I tell you, if you want to know the official statements or videos about jehovas witnesss, visit www.jw.org


Wonder how on earth you came up with/to know what I like and dnt like.


Yes jw.org is on youtube, but it does not mean its jehovahs witnesses as an organization that put it there!. Individuals can post videos on youtube.



Your beliefs are far from reality, people on these thread who are not jehovahs witnesses has told you otherwise.
Moreover, no jehovahs witness will tell you that they are " the number one " religion.
Note the key word" number one", no jehovahs witness will tell you that.


Then show ur faith by your works and tell us ur understanding of the scriptures I've been quoting.



1. We for sure know that the the name giving to jesus was giving to him by someone, did that person who gave jesus that name inferior in name to jesus? Naaaaaa!

2. We for sure know that jesus is subject to another, wonder is jesus name is above that one he is subject to.? Nooo!

3. We for such knows that jesus recieves command from someone, and definitely jesus has a God.

The bold part of your quote goes contrary to what jesus said in john 17:3 and john 20:17 .

It surely goes contrary to what the apostles taught us to believe as christians

1 peter 1:3
King James Bible
Blessed be the God and
Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Col 1:3
New International Version
We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ,[u] when we pray for you,

King James Bible
[u]We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

John 14:1
King James Bible
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

1 cor 8:5,6
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.


If you follow those scriptures instead of man made words and derived doctrines, you will know the truth.
And you will be happy , too happy to give people names like "dickhead". For the scriptures says :

American Standard Version
Happy is the people that is in
such a case; Yea , happy is
the people whose God is
Jehovah.

Look you tube, no-ones stealing your copyright laws, they have just added your cult to be seen on a much larger scale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnDa053tS0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ds2MOgPynA
Just think yourselves lucky, now the world can see, all the hidden secrets about your religion.
This is great news, How else do we know about the en-sites, who the JW's really are.
You should be happy about this, even yourselves can learn a few things.
Did not the Lord say go out unto all the world and preach the gospel, did He also say, beware of the false prophets, that they are raven wolves in sheep clothing.
We use the net as our tool to connect with all the information we can retrieve, we need to build ourselves up in the word of God, God's our strength, His our wisdom and our knowledge, without God, nothing else matters.
You both can be super hero's bringing in the crowds, knowing the truth about yourselves and to the world.

Sarang:
Our Website has a copyright law just like any other site and like you know many people do not obey laws..

So how is that the fault of Jw that people distribute our publications to share?
And believe me many of them do this because they know its the truth!

We have not been able to convince you because your heart is as hard as a rock,you dont just become a Jehovahs witness. You must be willing to learn about Jehovah for him to let you know him.

Draw close to God James said and he will draw close to you. Yes you have to make a step.

Knew what he did to obstinate Pharoah of Egypt? He helped him become more obstinate.

Who knows God's creation more then Himself, Abel's blood spoke from dust we came, and dust we will return.
DIFFERENT BIBLES DIFFERENT TEACHINGS.

Sarang:
When Cain killed Abel,the bible said Able's blood kept crying out for justice.
It was figuratively. Abel's blood can not talk!
Same with those people mentioned on revelation. Jehovah was around to witness the bad deeds done to these people,and he knew just how much pain they went through so he would want to see justice done.

When Lazarus died Jesus told his apostles,Lazarus our friend is sleeping but Im going to wake him up. His apostles thought that he was refering to ordinary sleep until he told them plainly Lazarus is dead.

Did you see what Jesus likened death to? Sleep.

When you sleep you literally know nothing unless you wake up.
Yes in the resurrection Jehovah is going to wake up all those sleeping in the death whom he found worthy of livinv again including the men of old,we await this special day. In the meantime,the dead know literally NOTHING!