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haibe:
This doesn't make any sense, the focal point is that there is nothing like freewill here because the consequences would counter the son's desire.. Also what sort of discipline is it to throw one in hell? Let me ask, God forbid if u end up In hell, would you prefer that God gave you any freewill in the first place? Its absurd that because I want to pls God, I will do lots of things contrary to my nature, go through temptation and trials and all sorts of pain. And then if I can't scale through them,he throws me into hell. Lol, why bother even creating me in the first place if he knows I will fails temptations and tests and trials..

Lets not deceive ourselves bro, this story can't be true, but I have faith the end will be good, I would never join other men to believe God is a sadist.. Lol

haibe:
This doesn't make any sense, the focal point is that there is nothing like freewill here because the consequences would counter the son's desire.. Also what sort of discipline is it to throw one in hell? Let me ask, God forbid if u end up In hell, would you prefer that God gave you any freewill in the first place? Its absurd that because I want to pls God, I will do lots of things contrary to my nature, go through temptation and trials and all sorts of pain. And then if I can't scale through them,he throws me into hell. Lol, why bother even creating me in the first place if he knows I will fails temptations and tests and trials..

Lets not deceive ourselves bro, this story can't be true, but I have faith the end will be good, I would never join other men to believe God is a sadist.. Lol

jamace:
If you say "The Bible" did not originate from the Catholic Church, I will categorically say that you do not know the history of The Bible.

-Need I tell you that the Catholic Church existed over 300 years before the Bible?
-Need I tell you that Jesus gave apostle Peter the mandate to head His Church, which is the Catholic Church?
-Do I need to confirm to you that each inspired writer's book was a separate book and that the Catholic Church collated these books and bound them into one book and gave it the name BIBLE?
-This may hurt you but it is the absolute truth that, ALL the authors of the NEW TESTAMENT are Catholics. Read the history of each author for confirmation.

Having pointed out the above facts, I wish to earnestly appeal to you to accept the teachings of the Catholic Church as the authority whenever you are in confusion on any biblical issue. Also, note that the teachings/works of the Church did not end when the Bible came into being. Many teachings of the Church have come up and many will still come up, as the Holy Spirit directs.

May the peace of the Lord be with you all.

-

Ukutsgp:
Why do we have so many different doctrines in churches today? Is the bible not one? Is God not one?.

Some will say pay tithe others will say no need. Some will say ladies can wear trouser others will say ladies should not wear trouser. Some will say, ladies must cover their hair others will say ladies should not cover their hair in church. Some will say, there is hell other will say there is nothing like hell fire. Some will say God is three in one others will say God is only one. Some will say u can pray through mary and jesus others will say pray only through jesus christ. Some will say fast others will say no need to fast. Some will say the earth shall be turned into paradise other will say there is no such thing, that we will all leave earth to heaven in the last day. Some will say give your first fruit offering other will say there no need for that anymore. Some will say we should worship God only on saturday which is the sabbath day others will say it is on sunday we should worship God. Some will say no christmas others will say there is christmas. Some will say christians can marry more than one wife other will say they cannot. Some say you can wear earing and fix nails others will say you must not wear earing and fix nail(for ladies). Some say you can do blood transfusion and take drugs others say you cannot do blood transfusion and take drugs that all you need is to apply faith. etc.

Somebody tell me, is this not confusion?. Hw can we know the truth now. Or who have a clear answers to the above different doctrines peddles by different denominations today. I wonder sha!

God help me o.

haibe:
Well the scenerio you have given is similar to this... a parent put sweet cookies and nice drinks on one side, and bitter leaf of all sorts on other side, he says to the son: you have the freewill to take the cookies and bitterleaf, but don't take the cookie or else I will beat you mercilessly when I get back home..

Now two things can be deduced from such a scenerio

1. The freewill the parent has given is just an illusion, there is actually no freewill because the consequences of choosing the cookie would not make the son want to pick the cookie..

2. The parent is actually wicked by taunting the son with the cookie,knowing fully well he would prefer that option and not the other.

The scenerio above paints its all, of God and Man.. That of God would even be worse than the parents own because God is supposed to be omniscient right? So he actually knows who will make heaven or not, so why can't he just remedy the situation instead of watching the movie of how it will play out.. Smh, any way I really don't care sha, I believe everything will turn out fine.. Have a great day

haibe:
Lol...I would not have replied because this post was made by me years ago and I don't know who resurrected it. You said you prefer having this choice, you know this choice can end you up in hell right? And u prefer having it? Stop deceiving urself bro

impossible27:
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Who posted dis trash here

impossible27:
Hmm oga Hw did u know of them entering d hell

Ubenedictus:
Brocab, hehehe, peter was given d keys, on him Christ promised to build d church. that is dat! u can go on and lie all u want but it wont change wat d bible says.

Ubenedictus:
Sorry dear, he was talking to peter and talking about peter. He said "blessed are u simon bar jona...and i tell u u are peter(kepha) and on this rock(kepha) i will build my church...I will give YOU d keys of d kingdom". It is very clear Jesus was given d 'word' an new name, it was peter he gave d name, he didnt give keys to d word, he gave it to peter, he said i wil give 'YOU' the keys, he didnt say i will give my word d keys.

Ubenedictus:
Brocab is now confusing himself, he cant decided who is called peter and cephas, it is d same person and it isnt Jesus, it is simon bar jonah. he is both peter and cephas, and Jesus said to him 'on this rock i will build my church, i will give you the keys'

He didnt say 'on my rock i will build my church, i will give me d keys'.

The bible is clear on this and refuses every attempt of brocab to misinterprete.

Ubenedictus:
Jesus said "you are kepha and on this kepha i will build my church"

Brocab says no no no,
it is "you are kepha and on ANOTHER kepha i will build my church".

now who is correct? i was Jesus, wat do u say?

Ubenedictus:
BROCAB you need to start reading d bible and stop hanging on the lies u pastors told u.

the bible clearly gives us the aramic translation of d name. Jesus spoke aramic and the bible recorded d aramic name. Open to gal 2:9, gal 2:11.
The word is clear his name is kepha.

Ubenedictus:
JESUS said, 'u ar kepha and upon this kepha i wil build my church', he was clearly talking to peter.

Acidosis:
Are you a church worker? What do you find yourself doing in the house of God? please share with us. . .

Every Sunday, many parents remind their children of the obligation to go 'church'. Any child who refuses to go is blackmailed, screamed at, abused and sometimes even beaten.

So my question is , if the bible says we should not provoke our children and since God is also tender with his children, why do parents use brute force to make many children go to church against their own will and then use the basics of life like shelter and money to threaten them if they fail to comply ?

Is this productive ? Could this be the reason why such families / homes are 'manufacturing' more atheists/agnostics/unfundamental Christians than those from other backgrounds?

Is a child going to church evidence that he is a Christian ?

Comments welcome.

shedyman:
As is customary of me, I attended Dunamis Int'l, Abuja today, the 25th day of January 2015.

I parked my car at the garage created for that purpose. One of the ushers in grey suit menacingly approached me and sternly warned me not to park there. Cars were parked beside me without any warning issued to the other drivers.

I had to look around so as to be sure I was not missing anything, after doing this, I told the usher from the pit of hell that the spaces between my car and surrounding vehicles was wide enough for entry and exit (true to my word, the cars that were in the garage when I parked had moved out and other cars had parked in their stead).

At the close of service, I was shocked to discover my tyres had been maliciously deflated. Instinctively, I had to look around for the usher from hell who took offence that I had the audacity to challenge the reasonableness of his instructions, I was not surprised to find he was no where to be found.

Consequently, I approached one of the ushers on ground to make a harmless complaint, I was dumbfounded when he threatened he was going to beat me up if I don't take my car in the state of its deflated tyres out of the garage. I dared him, but sensing I was a little enlightened he exercised restraint.

These two attitudes I experienced today got me wondering what the church of today is turning into. Are these really the signs of end time? If workers in church put up these attitudes (albeit unjustly), can it be said that the preaching that comes up from the pulpit is in anyway purging society of evil, looting, corruption, prostitution and malice?

Whilst I respect the grace and will continue to respect the grace and anointing of the Senior pastor of the church, Dr. Paul Eneche, I wonder what a christian whose faith is still shaky will do in my circumstance.

This post is actually a clarion call for pastors to be wary of the character that surrounds them, because these workers are the image the public has of the church.

Addicted2Women:
[size=16pt]Religion is fake.

Church is fake.

Jesus Christ is fake.

Mohammed is fake.

Hell is fake.

Heaven is fake.

When was Jesus Christ born ??
Was there any camera during his existence ??

How do you come up with the picture of an insane man dressed in White and red robe, who was born 6 million years ago when there was no camera and tell me this is Jesus Christ.

Fucck out of here with that bullshit[/size]

dolphinheart:
Prove What are now lies!?

miomio:
If one is paying their tithe they are paying it to God. and the priests are Gods representatives on earth. that was d base for my saying tights are for priests. in malachi 3:8,GOD said anyone that doesnt pay their tights is robbing him. and verse 10 says bring the ye ALL the tithes into Gods storehouse that there may be food. who is the keeper of the store house? -the priest. and the first ever bible version where it was recorded that tithe was paid was to Melchizedek the king of Salem who was also a priest. Gen14:18-20 recorded that Abraham paid Melchizedek tithe of all,meaning that we can also tithe in other things apart from money. another verse is Gen28:20-22, Jacob made a covenant to pay God tithe of all and said "if you protect me,bless me,and bring me back to my father's house in peace". since God will not come down to take these tithes the priests who are His oracles and mouth piece on earth do take d tithes. if a particular church decides to channel their tithe towards church building, it is their decision and choice. so BIBLICALLY tithes are for GOD, but the priests are being GOD'S REPRESENTATIVES on earth are entitled to have the tithes. BUT if the same priest upon receiving the tithe decides to build d church with it there is nothing wrong with it.

my dear if u have a counter responds forward before u detect a person whose head is not correct and with an IQ as low as 10.
God bless u.

Weeee:
I was at a Church today and I almost wept for the black race. Is it that people don't read their Bibles or they just choose to be gullible and stupid?

The Pastor or Prophet as he claimed he was always said that he isn't a beggar and he doesn't need anybody's money, but his actions were quite different. He acted like a beggar to me.

He was even so bold to request for so much money from his members and they saw nothing wrong at all. Okay, let me list all the money he collected so you can see for yourselves.

1) Who wants to give God the biggest note he/ she has in his/ her pocket?

2) Brown envelope.

3) White envelope.

4) Offering

5) Who wants to give money to the visiting Prophet? Tell the prophet thank you, Sow a seed now.

6) If you have 5000, 10,000 or any big amount of money you want to give to God.

Women came out mostly and I must say the church made almost N200, 000 or even more in just a day and this happens every Tuesday and other days they fellowship.

Things I noticed about the church...

1) The Pastor is an owner of a big car, while the members were mostly poor women and few men.

2) The Pastors dressed far better than the members. In fact, the members looked like people with lots of financial problems.

3) The only things the members get from these Pastors are prayers and a promise that God will reward them in 2016. I remember that I went to this same church some years back and the members still looked the same with no much of a change.

When will Nigerians get back to their senses to realize that these Pastors are using their beliefs, emotions and gullibility to steal all the money they have?

Only when we begin to think and come to a reasonable conclusion that God doesn't need money, but humans do, that is when we will begin to think right.

I wish I could take a video of what went on.

Ubenedictus:
JESUS said, 'u ar kepha and upon this kepha i wil build my church', he was clearly talking to peter.

dolphinheart:
@ brocab

You did not ask about how much jesus mean to me!

You only asked to tell you who I think jesus is, not about how I feel, but who I know jesus as.
I have told you who jesus is and you can't say I'm wrong, cus I used the scriptures and not man made ideaology.
You have not been able to reply the scriptures I posted on who jesus is you are now trying to shift it again to how I feel about jesus.
You can only know what jesus meant to me only when you know who jesus is.


Again I tell you, you did not ask me to describe my feelings as regards jesus Christ.
We have been discussing who jesus is on these thread for a while till you shifted the topic, this I responded to.

Look at your question again, you added a scripture, was peter response in that verse about his feelings or who he thinks jesus is!?. Why then are you now coming up with this new twist, another attempt not to respond to the scriptures posted there!?

Quit the lies brocad, the bolded are not part of your initial request.


My view of who jesus is similar or same as that of peter, you can't force me to have a different view of jesus than that of peter. It does not mean I'm copying peters view or scriptural view, but it points to you that my views and understanding and beliefs and even feelings are shaped by the word of God. All those with that same view about the scriptures as s guide will have the same view about who jesus is.

Nothing is impossible
to God.
I'm not God!

1 Corinthians 3:16 "Don't you know, that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you.
Then this proves the Spirit of
God does not live inside you.
You are expecting me to say something different from what peter said and you are still saying I dnt have spirit of God in me? Stop confusing urself Bro.
If someone says he has the spirit of God in him, is he not expected to say things in line with what peter said about jesus?

Did peter call jesus almighty God? No, he called him the "mesiah, son of the living God!."

I do not brag or talk about my feelings for jesus, I express it as he commanded, I try my best to follow his commands and teachings even though I falter atimes. If you think there is one of jesus commands/directive that I dnt follow, say it out in your next post.
who do I love with my whole everything ?read the scriptures below

John 14:23
King James Bible
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we
will come unto him, and make
our abode with him.

Matt 22:37-39
Kjv
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great
commandment. 39 And the
second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Who did jesus call that God that we should love.
John 17:1-3
Kjv
1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that
they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Note:
Again no response to the scriptures.
1 john 5:14,
john 3:16-18,
rom 1:3
job 1:6,
john 3:16,
Matt 3:17,
Luke 9:35,
Matt 16:16,
Heb 1:9,

And as always, you have shifted from mentioning hitler and war after I've replied you.

dolphinheart:
@ brocad

I answered your question on 30 Jan by 11:10 am on these thread. In case you refused to read it, I will post it here again.

"Ill be glad to answer your
question above. But you might
not like it cus my view on who
Jesus is similar or same to that
of peters description. So expecting me to give something different from that of peter or the scriptures is not possible!
Jesus is the son of the supreme being, the most high God, the living God.(1 john 5:14, john 3:16-18 , rom 1:3) Angels are called Gods sons too but Jesus is Gods only begotten son.(job 1:6 , john 3:16) Jesus is jehovahs master worker and he is sent to us to be our savior.
On completion of his work on
earth, he went back to heaven,
he told to sit on the right hand
side of the most high.
Jesus is not God almighty, he
did not say so, his disciples or
apostles did not say so.
Jesus is not equal to God, as at all times he was loyal to the
only true God jehovah, even to
the point of death."

Jehovah, the only true God, the almighty anointed jesus as our messiah! , our savior.

Matt 3:17
Also, a voice from the heavens said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have
approved.”

Luke 9:35
And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him

Matt 16:16
King James Bible
And Simon Peter answered
and said, Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God

Heb 1:9
You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.

Seems you need to read up on what Christ, messiah means.


You've left the questions I asked and now answering one I did not ask. I quoted your question, then answered you to show you there is no twisting or something hidden. If you are still interested in answering mine, pls do same so that all will know which question you are answering.


Pls give us an example! When you make such statements, pls support it with facts.



I asked you the statements when you made your false statement about jehovahs witnesses and marriage:

"if you are truthful, can you tell
the whole world the stands of
jehovahs witnesses as to
marriage?
and have you seen them
dissolve any marriage union
before? Do you hear cases of
divorce in their marriages like
you hear about numerous
pastors and religious leaders
today?"

You are not able to answer or respond to these issues/ questions raised. You try to cover it up with another question, well the answer is that jehovahs witnesses will not dissolve ur marriage even if you are married to the village babalawo.! They do not exercise the power to determine if you are married or not outside the law or tradition.
As to your question, jehovahs witnesses are married to fellow humans of the opposite sex as was done by adam and eve.


Sir brocad, it does matter! Standing your ground on the side of jesus and his commands for his followers in the face of imprisionment, serious pain and even death tells a lot about your faith!
They whole heatedly told hitler " we shall serve God rather than men" . germany claims to be a majority Christian country, do you think hitler would have been able to raise such army to fight such deadly war if all the christians (or those who claim to be) had stood their grounds on the side of God like jehovahs witnesses did? So Bro, what the jehovahs witnesses did does matter, they believed jesus when he said " he who loses his life for my sake will have it back(?)"


Good, they are in the right path
In fulfilling isaiah prophecy :

Isa 2:2-4
Kjv
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we
will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge among
the nations, and shall rebuke
many people: and they shall
beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall
not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn
war any more.
Those that live by the sword.......


You still have a lot to learn about isreal and the isrealites.
You call Gods people those who dnt believe in jesus as the Christ.

Note: you have not been able to defend this two lies of urs.

Lying does not help.

And you did not say anything about those who are left on earth after the so called rapture!

joyandfaith:
you are wrong. check www.jw.org to know what jw believes about holy spirit

Ladyo142:
Please please and please ,let is stop the argument

gemale:
cont'd...
Or is it d Anglicans (scions of D church of England) who has as their founder Henry VIII, a man so consumed wt lust 4 a woman & quest 4 a male heir dt he broke away because d church didn't allow him divorce his wyf Catherine 2 marry Anna boleyn. He then made himself d head of D church in England, divorced his wife & married a new 1. Tell me which oda church has its roots in d tym of Jesus (bows)? We call a spade by its name & u term us arrogant. Nw 2 ansa ur questions abt d authority of D church using various biblical verses, dont u c dt we r aptly defined by eph 2:20 u quoted. Christ is our chief cornerstone wt d apostles our true foundation. Oda churches can't b traced lyk us, u r all man-made (no iota of pride here; just truth) ur attempt 2 twist scripture 2 refute dt Peter wasn't d rock Jesus referred 2 was a gargantuan failure. Let's go 2 D gospel of Matthew 16:18 "& I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter (d Greek word used here was Petros meaning" rock", nw u understand d folly of translating d Bible wt out knowledge) & upon this rock (Petros used again), I wld build MY church (nt a church) & the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. So d only way u can say d church of Christ wasn't built on Peter (d 1st pope) is either if u don't understand English language or u r trying 2 contradict Jesus (bows). Dts 1 of my problems wt most Pentecostals /Protestants. U twist scripture 2 suit ur interests always glossing over or cutting out d incriminating parts dt contradict u all in a bid 2 deceive d gullible. Dis is a hard saying dt only a mature & knowledgeable xtian can take. Jesus left 1 entity when he left 4 heaven & later on sent d 2nd entity & neither of dem was d Bible. D 1st was His church wt Peter as head & d 2nd was d Holy spirit (paraclete) 2 guide her (d church). So wt u said abt d word of God as d rock referred 2 doesn't hold water. D Bible wasn't compiled (or as u say written) until after d death of D apostles & if u follow wt u preach isn't d Bible d total word of God? So in line wt d Bible verse i quoted, any church nt built on Peter is no true church of Christ. Even scripture invalidates d existence of ur church. U accuse d church of shutting d way 2 heaven lyk d pharisee? Hw? By telling d truth 2 scions of rebellion called 'churches'? Bob Marley said "if u knew ur history, then u wld know where u r coming 4rm". Dig deep & u wld find out @ 1 point in d history of ur church, ur founder either broke away 4rm his spiritual superior on a hostile manner or clandestinely went 2 set up wt out approval & blessing 4rm his previous place of worship a times taking wt him members of dt congregation. Is dt wt u call being led by d Holy spirit? Is dt His modus operandi? Creating division, strife, disunity & most tyms hatred in d body of Christ? I don't think so. Anyone dt does dt is nt a sheep in d Lord's flock rather he/she is a goat. As 4 dt issue abt y d church is called "Roman Catholic" u already know y it's called Catholic (I explained earlier) d Roman is due d fact dt d pope is also d bishop of Rome. Rome played a very huge part in d history of D church. St Paul was beheaded dere. Dere was a lot of persecution of early xtians dere as it was d capital of D world then. As 4 translation of D Bible, I pointed out ur folly earlier on. When deres a translation, deres always a loss of complete meaning (language experts can testify), yes d church was overzealous in its bid 2 prevent translation of D Bible 4rm its original languages bt it was ryt. Nw every Tom, dick & Harry picks d Bible, haphazardly reads it & draws 2 wteva conclusions he can fit. Dts y c 1 man who claims 2 have gone 2 'Bible college' 4 3 months giving himself titles lyk pastor evangelist, apostle & so on going 2 establish a church, claiming 2 b led by d spirit. Tell me is it possible 2 gain an in depth knowledge of D things of God on so short a tym? 2 b cont'd...

gemale:
cont'd...
D result of dis is d huge amount of half-baked preachers deceiving gullible pple left, ryt & center. Of dem Jesus Christ (bows) says, "can d blind lead d blind? Dey wld both fall in a pit". Some of dem r so crafty dt dey twist d sacred words of Scripture 2 support their nefarious interests lyk amassing wealth. Oda use it 4 oda dreadful acts. U must have heard abt fiascos lyk d Jim Jones Mass suicide in Guyana. U accuse d Catholic church of being 2day's pharisee bt listen 2 these Matt 23:23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenthof your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness". Is dt a practice rampant in most Pentecostal churches? Even on campuses, dey coerce students 2 pay tithe 4rm pocket money even when it's clear dt dey dnt earn wages bt r dependent on their parents. In verse 14, He says " Woe unto you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation." When a pastor tells d mostly poor pple in his church 2 'sow' D little dey have wt assurance dt dey wld get 'breakthrough', is he nt lyk d pharisees ? Dey tell a young man/woman 2 'sow' their 1st salary oblivious 2 D huge financial responsibilities dey might face. Meanwhile d pastor drives d flashiest cars, lives luxuriously & even might fly private Jets while his gullible followers r living in abject penury. Hw Christ like is dt?

dolphinheart:
@ brocad

I answered your question on 30 Jan by 11:10 am on these thread. In case you refused to read it, I will post it here again.

"Ill be glad to answer your
question above. But you might
not like it cus my view on who
Jesus is similar or same to that
of peters description. So expecting me to give something different from that of peter or the scriptures is not possible!
Jesus is the son of the supreme being, the most high God, the living God.(1 john 5:14, john 3:16-18 , rom 1:3) Angels are called Gods sons too but Jesus is Gods only begotten son.(job 1:6 , john 3:16) Jesus is jehovahs master worker and he is sent to us to be our savior.
On completion of his work on
earth, he went back to heaven,
he told to sit on the right hand
side of the most high.
Jesus is not God almighty, he
did not say so, his disciples or
apostles did not say so.
Jesus is not equal to God, as at all times he was loyal to the
only true God jehovah, even to
the point of death."

Jehovah, the only true God, the almighty anointed jesus as our messiah! , our savior.

Matt 3:17
Also, a voice from the heavens said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have
approved.”

Luke 9:35
And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him

Matt 16:16
King James Bible
And Simon Peter answered
and said, Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God

Heb 1:9
You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.

Seems you need to read up on what Christ, messiah means.


You've left the questions I asked and now answering one I did not ask. I quoted your question, then answered you to show you there is no twisting or something hidden. If you are still interested in answering mine, pls do same so that all will know which question you are answering.


Pls give us an example! When you make such statements, pls support it with facts.



I asked you the statements when you made your false statement about jehovahs witnesses and marriage:

"if you are truthful, can you tell
the whole world the stands of
jehovahs witnesses as to
marriage?
and have you seen them
dissolve any marriage union
before? Do you hear cases of
divorce in their marriages like
you hear about numerous
pastors and religious leaders
today?"

You are not able to answer or respond to these issues/ questions raised. You try to cover it up with another question, well the answer is that jehovahs witnesses will not dissolve ur marriage even if you are married to the village babalawo.! They do not exercise the power to determine if you are married or not outside the law or tradition.
As to your question, jehovahs witnesses are married to fellow humans of the opposite sex as was done by adam and eve.


Sir brocad, it does matter! Standing your ground on the side of jesus and his commands for his followers in the face of imprisionment, serious pain and even death tells a lot about your faith!
They whole heatedly told hitler " we shall serve God rather than men" . germany claims to be a majority Christian country, do you think hitler would have been able to raise such army to fight such deadly war if all the christians (or those who claim to be) had stood their grounds on the side of God like jehovahs witnesses did? So Bro, what the jehovahs witnesses did does matter, they believed jesus when he said " he who loses his life for my sake will have it back(?)"


Good, they are in the right path
In fulfilling isaiah prophecy :

Isa 2:2-4
Kjv
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we
will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge among
the nations, and shall rebuke
many people: and they shall
beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall
not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn
war any more.
Those that live by the sword.......


You still have a lot to learn about isreal and the isrealites.
You call Gods people those who dnt believe in jesus as the Christ.

Note: you have not been able to defend this two lies of urs.

Lying does not help.

And you did not say anything about those who are left on earth after the so called rapture!

gemale:
Ur last sentence is true so wt can u say abt som1 who cs a false post online, doesn't verify its truth /falsity or maybe he does bt because he hates d Catholic decides 2 post it proclaiming it as d truth & pple c dis post & also wt out verifyn it launch assault on d Catholic church; some even naming d pope as antichrist? Do dey manifest d spirit of God in dt act? No its d spirit of falsehood exhibited by d serpent of old in eden & d lack of D spirit of discernment by both d op & most of d posters respectively. U compared d Catholic church 2 head of a body. I beg 2 differ. Jesus is d head of D Catholic church wt d pope as a visible head. Protestant/Pentecostals r lyk parts of dt body dt decided 2 separate 4rm dt body. U decided nt 2 submit 2 D authority of Catholic church. U r lyk d branch in d parable dt cuts itself 4rm d living vine. It might remain green @ 1st bt eventually it withers & dies. Dts y u c a lot of churches dt either folds up afta d death of their founders or divides further. Instead of being built on Christ d solid rock, most of these churches r built on d 'anointing' ( actually I think it's more of charisma) of their founders which is nothing but sinking sand. D part where u began blaming d Catholic church was q bit fuzzy 2 me bt i wld try 2 explain based on my assumptions. U r berating d church 4 condoning d presence of sinners in it. Wasn't it Jesus Christ who said "I have nt come 2 call d righteous bt sinners 2 repentance". D church doesn't condone sins bt welcome sinners 2 convert 4rm their old ways. Ur accusatory tone smacks of self-righteousness & a holier-than-thou attitude dt is unxtian.