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knowyaself2:
I'm afraid sir u r the one in serious need of understanding if after going through the link I referred u to and this is alll u could come up with.
You are however right in saying that the bible is no ordinary book - in reality it is a book infused with occult powers and made into a formidable subliminal tool. Most of the stories and characters are all occultic allegories, arranged in numbers(numbers r very effective in working magik). It takes one to be defiant and open minded to rise above the mind-programming and indoctrination effects of this strong Jewish book of witchcraft, and start asking hard questions that, if pursued to a logical conclusion, will undoubtedly lead one to the truth.
One of the reasons most people believe the bible blindly without asking qestions is this sublime messages it contains and the use of fear - hell fire and eternal damnation. And for one to even start making sense out of this lie and hoax, you need to have a some knowledge of the occult - only then can you truly see what the bible and the Jewish conspiracy is for real. The bible tries to suppress knowledge and science to perpetuate this lie - all of the so called supernatural can easily be explained scientifically, this is why Christianity over the previous centuries have been against science and the use of the powers of the mind and soul.
The Jews at the top hairachy, those that run the affairs of the world are highly adept at the occult. Christianity and Islam , especially Christianity is their bulwark of power and control.
Concerning the so called abyss, their search if they have initiated one, will only result to a waste of resources because most of the ideas in the Jewish bible are all allegories and not to be taken literally. There is macrocosm and microcosm = infinity(the universe has no begining or an end. We tend to apply linear time to everything - because we live and die, we believe everything must have a begining and an end. This doesn't apply to the universe. There are more than 100 billion galaxies out there - not solar systems but galaxies and the earth is certainly not the only planet with intelligent life.
there are higher beings certainly - the gods with higher spiritual powers: Satan, nordic gods, angels, etc. But do you honestly think if the christain God is supreme and created all things and is omnipotent and all, that there will be a spiritual war going on out there? An omnipotent God cannot fight his creatures - he will simply will it that they are destroyed, and that's it there will be peace. That Jewish God is a scam that's the bitter truth.

knowyaself2:
Your words touched my heart and would hv naturally led me give the Christian God my life to manage, but hey, u are completely missing the point: the bible and everything associated with it has been proven beyond any doubt that it's a hoax, a lie dreamed up and composed by the Jews for their selfish interest. If u actually believe that the Jewish character Jesus Christ ever lived at all on this planet earth, then you have been scamed and should be petied.
I refer u to this post: https://www.nairaland.com/2588522/christs-existence-not-substantiated-historical

Arihodo:
I know with all my heart that Jesus Christ was chosen and given Authority even b4 the world began.

Who will be left and follow after the beast

castroevans:
I'm sure u know there are workers in the church...
The Drummers, those who play the keyboard, piano, blow the trumpet, cleaners, and 90percent of them are paid. Where do u expect the money to come from, The Pastor's pocket?
I'm sure u know the church also needs maintenance, purchasing of diesel, repair of any faulty electrical appliances and u also don't expect that to come from the pastor's pocket alone.
Now, paying of rents, printing of bulletin etc all requires money, do u also expect that to come from ur pastor's pocket alone?
I used to live in such notion but i'm glad I don't think about it anymore.
Pray to blessed beyond ur expectation and such thoughts would be the last thing u would think of.

Arihodo:
I know with all my heart that Jesus Christ was chosen and given Authority even b4 the world began.

knowyaself2:
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't think outside this so called powerful book- it is doing its work, it is very subliminal. A book of Jewish witchcraft. What prophecies? Think man, think.

italo:
The truth.

Has brocab or any of the other protestants claiming the pope said hell is not real been able to show where he said so?

Yes or no.

knowyaself2:
Jesus did not exist my dear, that's the bitter truth for christains-this has been proved beyond all doubts. Go and read my post on ''Christ's Existence Not Substantiated by Historical Evidence''
The problem with christains, especially Nigerian Christians, is that they have been so indotrinated that they hardly research and ask thought-provoking questions. Whoever that has carried out a thorough research, and have most likely seen all the evidence attesting to the fact that both the old and new testament are figment of the Jewish people's imagination, and a sublimal tool and properganda to achieve their selfish interest at the detriment of the rest of the world; and still goes on to believe it, is crazy.
There's nothing original about the bible. Most of the concepts were stolen from acient pegan religion that predates it by thousands of years, and of course were further corrupted to give it a feel of originality.
The Jews created both the bible and quaran out of thin air to enslave the whole world - these two serve as their bulwark of power and control. And the annoying thing is that they even try to fool us by appearing to be hostile to these religions. The Jews excel in occult practices, and Christianity and Islam readily provide them with adequate supply of psychic energy. The everage deluded Christian is innocently devoted and committed, thinking they are worshiping the almighty God.
Jehova, Allah and Jesus Christ are just thoughtforms created by the Jews and made powerful through constant supply of psychic energy via worship, praises, adoration, etc. Then there are extra terristials beings out there impersonating these fiticious entities - greys, reptilians, and some nordics who made a deal with the vetican: souls(energy) in exchange for power and wealth. These are verified facts, not fables like the bible. People need to wake up - Jewish religion is the highest fraud ever known by humanity. Enough said.

misreal:
what can I more say..

dmandy:
Thanks,

but was he really a nobody before coming to earth through Mother Mary? 'He laid aside his msjesty' does the clause mean anything to you?

dmandy:
I don't understand. How does it connect with the discussion?

italo:
@misreal,

What do you think drives some protestants like this, so-called followers of Jesus Christ, to continually fabricate lies against the pope and catholicism?

Or have they been able to tell us when and where the pope said so?

dmandy:
You have a great writing skill no doubt. But my question doesn't need an epistle to answer.

I may not have ur level of education, please help me make it simpler.

When was Jesus given this authority, before birth, after birth or after death?

dmandy:
You have a great writing skill no doubt. But my question doesn't need an epistle to answer.

I may not have ur level of education, please help me make it simpler.

When was Jesus given this authority, before birth, after birth or after death?

dmandy:
So it was given to Him when He was born? Am I right?

dmandy:
Thanks for the correction.

But, when exactly did the father give Jesus the authority, before he was born? when he was born? abi na after he had died?

Your answer will help me understand how God actually changed.

Thanks for Keeping it civil.

italo:
Instead of showing us that your mother raised you to insult people who did nothing to you...

...why don't you just show us where and when Pope Francis said it?

Misreal, please take note.

italo:
Of course the Pope didn't say it.

What you must wonder is why so-called "christians" keep making up lies about the Pope and Catholicism.

emrain:
One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis.
Some of the beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently named The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine . In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:

“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity.
God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”


In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that: “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.
Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that… Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”
One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria… “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”

source: TV

dmandy:
@Bolded, are you for real?

God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Jesus is God and HE has had authority before the world was made (Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever). Try to read. God can never ever Change

dmandy:
Only you are a Christian.

dmandy:
How did you know, I have a serious problem reading long sentences that are out of point.

You take simple things and complicate them with the use (and misuse) of grammar.

dmandy:
Go ahead, whatever makes you feel boom

God has not changed, and that is whether you believe it or not. God is still God, abandon His dictates at your detriment.

May God help you find the peace you seek.

namo77:
There's a book that has changed my life. It helped me truly understand Christianity. Check it out: http://downloads.rhapsodyofrealities.org/downloads/ror/start/teamnnamdio

dmandy:
Sir Moses didn't have law. God gave the law through him. Yes I am under the law of God.

dmandy:
Yes of course, they are different in spelling and pronunciation but shouldn't be in principle. Thanks anyways.

dmandy:
Easy oga, we no de quarrel.

First, Jesus said its not a bad idea...here '"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former'

Secondly, God can take his gifts if he wants (Job 1:21), but you know that was not what I said. I said what God gives you, he expects you to share (To whom much is given, much is expected). And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased (Heb 13:16).

dmandy:
Of course we are reading two different bibles na, my bible dey here with me and I don't know where you dey... it's impossible. lolx.

Did you read where Jesus said 'without neglecting the former?'

Whether na food products or money, what difference does it make? What was the goal? Was it not to meet the priests goal?

About Levites, I don't think we still need them... we have our pastors and priests and fellow Christians and they perform for us the same tasks as levites.

dmandy:
Is my pastor poor? I don't think so. Is he in need sometimes, yes. Now tithe is a law, but the soul of that law is 'charity'. Just every law has an essence. I hate it when pastors compel people to give or tithe, I go with you on that but Jesus himself said its not a bad idea to tithe.


And for the records I don't pay 10% of my earning, but I give to the pastor (and to others) whatever I feel I can give anytime any day. Everything giving to you is not yours to keep... but your to share.

dmandy:
Your write up didn't prove that.

God is not against Tithing (I prefer giving) in any form, yet I don't believe he sins who don't. My take is that it shouldn't be a compulsion, but the freewill of the giver.

Christ taught us what is more important...charity. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

dmandy:
Waoh... I have not looked at it from your perspective before. You must be a man of wisdom.

Jesus God gives, and man receives....but all these are done through a medium (another man). You see the little boy from your story gave o Jesus who later gave to people. You see Jesus actually asked "They do not need to go away. You give them something to eat."

I think that when you give to anybody in need (including your pastors) you are serving God. St. James thinks the same thing 'Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world'.

dmandy:
I think your problem is calling it 'Tithe'. I know Christ collected some kind of support and offerings from his followers.
Many women were there, watching from a distance. They had followed Jesus from Galilee to care for his needs... Matt 27:55
If you ask me I will say its okay to give to the Pastors whether you call it tithe o, offering o, gift o. Just give.. charity is the best yet it begins from home.