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 Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:56pm On Feb 15, 2019*. Modified: 3:55pm On Feb 15, 2019 |
I don't need another chance-a Child could see this-but you can't? Two verses from different bibles lining up with each other, both bibles claiming John the baptist is sent to make way for Jehovah or Jesus to arrive, "Both names are equal with each other.. You demanded if Jehovah has a Father-these both verses from different bibles, had proven "Yes" to your question" you had always said: Jesus can't be Jehovah at the same time; so if this isn't the case-then who is John preparing the way for, If not Jehovah-Jesus? {Isaiah 40:3} NWT Bible-Listen! Someone is calling out* in the wilderness:+ “Clear up the way* of Jehovah,+ YOU people! MAKE the highway for our God through* the desert plain straight.*: {Isaiah 40:3} The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God. We are clearly told that John was sent to 'prepare the way' for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ {Mark 1:2-3}The voice crying in the wilderness is John the baptist-preparing the way for Jesus, in your bible Jehovah.. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:55pm On Feb 13, 2019 |
Janosky:How many times do we need to show you 'blind man, Jehovah is Jesus according to the NWT-KJ's version! So if these both scriptures are right-then we still have God to be the Father of Jehovah Jesus! {Isaiah 40:3} NWT Bible-Listen! Someone is calling out* in the wilderness:+ “Clear up the way* of Jehovah,+ YOU people! MAKE the highway for our God through* the desert plain straight.*: {Isaiah 40:3} The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God. Even the elders know this verse is about preparing the way for Jesus! Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:43pm On Feb 13, 2019 |
 I like the cartoons!! Sorry I have black listed JW's from my home, their words are full of poison-and there hearts are full of deceit, the JW's devour the innocent-you rob temples-you draw people away from the truth.. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:22pm On Feb 13, 2019 |
I never stop anybody from going anywhere-I just listened to the voice inside me, and repeated it-God uses issues such as these to draw the people to Him..If this man was saved-or not-God's plans are way beyond our simple minds... Firstly you believe JW's are the only people going to be with the Lord-now if this man was not a JW 'are you now saying he has a chance to be with the Lord in heaven, without committing himself to the Watchtower? God uses His people to reach out to the Lost sheep--Faith without works is dead... TATIME: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:52am On Feb 13, 2019 |
I had an interesting day yesterday, I was asked to go with friends to a Hospital to visit a friend of theirs, the friend was in the critical unit, but stable. In the Hospital, only two personal was allowed to visit at one time, so because I didn't know the gent to well, I decided to wait in the waiting room, and as I was sitting I began chatting with a group of ladies, and we began to share our reasons why we were there waiting, one of the ladies told me while her husband was on a construction site, his heart stopped, not a heart attack, it just stopped, dead on arrival to the Hospital, for nearly 48 hours, the hospital had him on a breathing machine to keep his heart pumping. While I was listening to the lady's story-a voice came to my heart and said: say to the ladies, do you believe in the power of prey, so I said: it openly to the ladies, do you believe in the power of prey! As soon as I said this, the nurses ran to the ladies and said: her husband just woke up, I smiled and looked at the Ladies and repeated the power of prey that was giving to me by the Lord-a sort time later I was told the nurses didn't know how he woke up-all of a sudden he just woke up!! I believe in miracles-speciously when it concerns God-and when I see miracles such as these happen before my eye's, it encourage's me to keep on going with the Lord we trust-it blows my mind . Now this doesn't usually happen always, but it's a good reason to give praises to Jesus-because His Word said: we ask anything in Jesus name, it shall be given, "I didn't actually pray for this man-in away to be expected-but I followed the voice that entered my heart to say-do you believe in the power of prey. It just shows God works in ways we never expect Him to do, but listening to His voice in my heart yesterday surely does make a difference! And about the gent my friends were visiting-they prayed over him, and I believe His healing had began already... 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:27am On Feb 13, 2019 |
I don't think-you actually think at all!! {Isaiah 40:3} NWT Bible-Listen! Someone is calling out* in the wilderness:+ “Clear up the way* of Jehovah,+ YOU people! MAKE the highway for our God through* the desert plain straight.*: {If the JW's believe this verse is about the coming of Jehovah-than Jehovah is Jesus} {Isaiah 40:3} The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God.is coming {Again Jehovah is Jesus} {Matthew 3:3} "For this is the one referred to by Isaiah the prophet, saying, 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness, 'Make ready the way of the Lord, make His paths straight!'' {Again Jehovah is Jesus} {Mark 1:1-3}"The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. As it is written in Isaiah the prophet, "Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, who will prepare Your way; The voice of one crying in the wilderness, 'Make ready the way of the Lord, make His paths straight.'" {Is deafeningly Jesus} ' {Matthew 11:10}'This is the one about whom it is written, 'Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, who will prepare Your way before You. {Again John the baptise is preparing the way for Jesus} {John 1:23} "He {John the Baptist} said, 'I am a voice of one crying in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way of the Lord.' as Isaiah the prophet said.'" Clearly, John the Baptist was sent by God to prepare the way for Jesus as all six quotes above demonstrate. We must also note that in the four citations the Old Testament is quoted from two sources: Isaiah and Malachi. {Malachi 3:1} " Behold, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. And the Lord {adonai} whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; and the messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, He is coming," says the Lord [YHWH] of hosts." So it doesn't matter which way the bible turns-it doesn't matter how you read it, blind as you are, blind you will still be, the Watchtower agrees Jehovah God is Jesus in the flesh.. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:06am On Feb 13, 2019*. Modified: 12:30am On Feb 13, 2019 |
We are open for encouragement-but it seems not from you? You don't have to like what we do-if your heart is elsewhere' than go that way, this page is not for everybody, but we don't try and stop others who are seeking to make a difference either.. Half the population are anti Christ-Jehovah witnesses are just a drop in the ocean.. These are still lost sheep-Jesus taught His disciples to preach-and what better way the disciples-preached in the court yards of the temple, they preached Christ among different religions, John the baptise preach the coming of Christ amongst different religions-and still the Word of God had enough power behind it 'to bring the people to the Lord-Christ had suffered and paid the price-and still they didn't give up... Pray for all of us, and don't give up.. Ken4Christ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 9:56pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
{Isaiah 40:3} NWT Bible-Listen! Someone is calling out* in the wilderness:+ “Clear up the way* of Jehovah,+ YOU people! MAKE the highway for our God through* the desert plain straight.*: {Isaiah 40:3} The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God. It just shows their is so much literature out here to learn by-Is the Jehovah witnesses-telling us Jehovah Jesus is really God? Or is there a mix up in the scriptures! TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 7:33pm On Feb 12, 2019*. Modified: 9:56pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
 A HAPPY FACE IS ALWAYS RECOGNISABLE! But a sad face is this: Jehovah witnesses refusing to save their own because someone in the Watchtower had twisted the scriptures to ensure the rest may fear the Watchtower organisation: These are just cartoons but very effective, concerning any truth that concerns the Watchtowers hidden agenda's, these acts are under the secret society of the Illuminati, murderers from the beginning--Freemasons behind the scene leading the Watchtower" while in fact the Jehovah witnesses are led by the blind, leading the blind!!! https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0026 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 7:15pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
TATIME:*Unity~They're not united yet claiming Christians! {And yet the JW's refuses to believe-One must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God:} *Faith~They have no outstanding faith to distinguish them from other local traditions! {And yet the Jw's refuses to have enough faith to preach the Word of God: which is the truth the hole truth and nothing but the truth:} *Work~Their religions aren't working out anything tangible for observers to see! {And yet the JW's refuses to know faith without works is dead:} *Love~They have no bond even within their congregations! {And yet the JW's refuses all people outside their organisation: Jesus said love your neighbour:} *Joy~They have no joy so they can't go out to meet people IN THEIR HOMES to share such joy! {And yet the JW's have taken scripture out of context-to know, the Lord didn't tell us to trespass on people's properties, bible bashing them with doctrines of the unknowing Watchtower god-this is unscriptural} So the truth of the matter is, JW, believing to somewhat other then the Word of God-you are nothing to brag about in the kingdom of God: TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 6:09pm On Feb 12, 2019*. Modified: 9:11pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
TATIME:A great speech only for a JW.. Allow me to share something with you, yesterday I was asked to go with friends to a Hospital to visit a friend of theirs, the friend was in the critical unit, but stable. In Hospital only two personal was allowed to visit at one time, I decided to wait in the waiting room, and as I was sitting I began chatting with a group of ladies, and we began to share our reasons why we are there, one of the ladies told me while her husband was on a construction site, his heart stopped, no heart attack, it just stopped, dead on arrival to the Hospital, for nearly 48 hours, the hospital had him on a breathing machine to keep his heart pumping. While I was listening to the lady's story-a voice came to my heart and said: say to the ladies, do you believe in the power of prey, so I said: openly do you believe in the power of prey, as soon as I said this, the nurses ran to the ladies and said: her husband just woke up, I smiled and looked at the Ladies and repeated the power of prey-a sort time later I was told the nurses didn't know how he woke up-all of a sudden he just woke up!! I believe in miracles-so I don't know about you, but when I see miracles such as these happen before my eye's, speciously when it concerns God-then I wouldn't dare to follow after another god-speciously if it concerns any god, you may believe you have the right god-but if Jehovah doesn't line up with the Word of God-then he is just your personal god-where in fact, I hear nothing about Jehovah witnesses that concerns healing of any sort. Now this doesn't usually happen always, but it's a good reason to give praises to Jesus-because His Word said: we ask anything in Jesus name, it shall be given, "I didn't actually pray for this man-in away to be expected-but I followed the voice that entered my heart to say-do you believe in the power of prey. So our failed dying tradition as you believe it to be, is people hearing from God stepping out in faith, I did just that, and I saw the evidence.. And I suppose this is the many reasons why we choose not to leave our God for your god, if you knew our God-you wouldn't be calling it a dying tradition-because the gift that God gives you is working miracles signs and wonders 'for Him.. This is God actually working through us praying for the sick, raising the dead, Where in fact, your religion never talks about Jehovah healing the sick-saving lives or raising the dead-and yet these are the miracles signs and wonders Jesus talks about: {John 14:12} Jesus said: whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these.. This gift was promised to His disciples, the sick were healed after they prayed , and this same promise is still working 'through our faith today, "Nothing had changed! The only change is in those who refuses to believe-man changes God's Word!! {Matthew 24:35} Heaven and Earth will pass away, but My Word will never pass away. The problem we are having right now is, you believe Jehovah witnesses is doing the Works-but your works are your own to brag about-your works are not these works the bible talks about-whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these-if these are not your works then it is obvious your works are dead.. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:57am On Feb 12, 2019 |
It's understandable when the truth is revealed, the JW's made a mistake in {1 John 5:7} For there are three witness bearers: NWT bible.. But someone in the Watchtower had finely understood whom Jesus was from a different prospective in {John 5:20} The Watchtowers quote: And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. {This is the true God and life everlasting} This is actually telling us Jesus and His Father are One.. We can't argue what had already been written down, and no-one had tried to correct this so called mistake of yours-you don't have to believe it, but what matters the Watchtower believes it. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:41am On Feb 12, 2019 |
I had showed a friend about his NIV bible-he didn't realise-the missing links, I like the KJ's.. {Matthew 13:14?-15} “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 14 15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. QnVee: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:33am On Feb 12, 2019 |
What does your face look like, if it isn't at the rear end? Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:25am On Feb 12, 2019 |
You need to know-I don't see the JW's to be any different to those already sitting in your Church gatherings, these may sound like an argument to you, I see it as a tool to learn more about our Lord and savour. "You think it's all about the JW's-"No" it about learning, and we have learned a lot from each other-we have studied and our learning skills in knowledge had increased, you need to understand-we are silent preachers, spreading the truth about our Lord and savour we serve!! {Isaiah 42:1-3} We are servants of the Lord “Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, My Elect One in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street. A bruised reed He will not break, And smoking flax He will not quench; He will bring forth justice for truth. Matter of fact when I read the good news from our fellow comrades, it is much more than I hear in the local Church.. People will say no-one is perfect-I am not looking for perfect people-but the Word of God is prefect and it should be preached prefect as it is written. The problem with different denominations-is everyone is to busy trying to please man, before they even consider to please God.. [/color] Ken4Christ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:25am On Feb 12, 2019 |
TATIME:Agreeing with my words won't save you TATIME: repentance towards the Lord-is your only hope!! {John 15:18-27} The Lord said: to His believers “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. {Not even you keep our words-that concerns His Words nor His Fathers Words-which is all One Word} But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. {This a true statement-not even you agree to call upon Jehovah in Jesus's name} If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.’ {They hated us-just Like they hated Him who sent us-to witness to all nations} But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning. The true believers are testifying of Him who sent us, we wouldn't dare put ourselves in line with a denomination that doesn't line up with the Word of God, anybody denying the truth-is already condemn-matter of fact you would turn from your evil ways and return back to God who created you from the beginning.. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:01pm On Feb 11, 2019 |
Your knowledge of the bible is very poor-how do any of you sleep at nights.. I remember sometime ago, I was a driver-and I was asked the drive a man casual dressed to his destination, while we were travelling-I found he was a talkative man, he witnessed to me about Jehovah-"A god he never knew"-while speaking-I asked one question, was he a true believer of Jehovah-He said: "No" I asked him why does he witness: he said his parents are JW's, this man reminds me of you Janosky-he spoke of a god he never knew.. Some time later-I was asked to pick someone up at a brothel-it was the same man, he looked at me and said: do I know you? I said: not really-he remembered while he put his head down in shame. God see's everything-we can't hide from God-this man's hidden agenda wasn't hidden from the Lord-nor is your's Janosky, your mouth is also a brothel... Janosky: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:30pm On Feb 11, 2019*. Modified: 1:10pm On Feb 11, 2019 |
It's understandable when the truth is revealed, the JW's have removed {1 John 5:7} For there are three witness bearers: NWT bible.. The truth of the matter is--{V 10} The person putting his faith in the Son of God has the witness within himself. The person not having faith in God has made him a liar, because he has not put his faith in the witness given by God concerning his Son. {V 11} And this is the witness, that God gave us everlasting life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has this life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this life. I write you these things so that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the Son of God. NWT {V 20} But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight* so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true. And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. {This is the true God and life everlasting} I find the Watchtower body is divided-the toes is not connected to the foot, the head is separated from the rest of the body-if you JW's knew what your bible had written in the first place we wouldn't be having this pointless argument. As we can see someone in the Watchtower had made a terrible mistake, or maybe, someone didn't make a mistake, everything the Watchtower had printed on their presses, were proven to be true and correct-copy right by the Watchtower.. So Janosky are you lying once more-allow me to rewrite it again-the Watchtower had written Jesus is one with His Father the Almighty God! They said: and they believed "Jesus is the true God.. And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. {This is the true God and life everlasting} Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:16am On Feb 08, 2019*. Modified: 6:41am On Feb 08, 2019 |
Barristter07:And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. As God the Father is still in heaven at this point in the vision, and since all judgment has been committed to Christ {John 5:22} It is evident that the One on the great white throne here is Christ { Romans 14:10; 2 Corinthians 5:10} For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he has done, whether it be good or bad. You stand before Christ looking down on you, your heart will cry out, and say" who are you "Lord" where is Jehovah-and the "Lord" will say: away from Me 'you who practice lawlessness, I never knew you: {So we do understand, it's a risky business to join up with a organisation like Jehovah witnesses, the world have proven you to be a cult-your teachings are your own-your disbelieving nature are yours-nothing the Watchtower teaches lines up with the Word of God, you don't believe in Him' nor do you believe in Him 'who sent Him} |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 5:34am On Feb 08, 2019*. Modified: 5:58am On Feb 08, 2019 |
Just read the scriptures, and stop arguing over small talk, that you know you can't argue against.. Janosky:It doesn't take rocket science to work out-when Jesus said: I and the Father are one-this gives us enough evidence to prove who Jesus is to His Father, how about when His disciples recognises who Jesus is, the miracle becomes more greater to believe. Thomas's statement in {John 20:28} where he said "My Lord and My God" to Jesus when he saw him. Did Jesus rebuke Thomas "No" did Jesus say to Thomas don't say that because I am not God? "No"..Is Jesus a lair-because He never corrected Thomas, "No" but does this make you out to be a lair denying the truth, "Yes" "Jesus blessed the testimony of Thomas and therefore acknowledging that Thomas was right in calling him God. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:24am On Feb 08, 2019*. Modified: 4:37am On Feb 08, 2019 |
Allow me to pray' "Lord" forgive the Watchtower's organisation, "Lord" they do not know what they are teaching-their hearts have been led astray there is no truth found in them-they are trained to destroy the Word the God. "Lord" they are deceivers-against you-they are lairs against your Chosen people-they stork the widows, they prey on innocent Children, like wolves in sheep clothing-their elders molest their youth, and still Almighty Lord I pray these are forgiven. Their ways are of the wicked-they plan to destroy your people-the Watchtower is their kingdom-they worship after their father, the devil, they carry out their father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. {John 8:44} "Lord" you said: Many will come, and few are chosen-I pray' the Jehovah witnesses will turn from evil-I pray they will spread the gospel' you said: go out unto all the World, I pray' they will give blood and heal their sick, do many miracles, I pray' they raise their dead in the Name of Jesus's, {Iesus} "not in Jehovah... {Matthew 7:21-22} The "Lord" said: Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' The "Lord" will say I never knew you depart from Me.. "Lord" I pray' for the Watchtower society they will repent, I pray" they will call out in Jesus's name-not another name, I pray" forgiveness and repentance is their first priority, that they preach no other doctrine, nor teach false prophesies in Jehovah's name, they have refused to heal their sick, the Watchtower organisation prays in a demonic language to demons 'casting in demons in Jehovah's Name.. Forgive them "Lord" they are murdering themselves, they prey on the innocent-they are falling soul's burning in Hell.. Forgive them "Lord" because they don't ask in your Name, but Jehovah's name-forgive them "Lord" they refuse to hear the truth the hole truth and nothing about the truth; they worship another-who is a lair and a deceiver-a murder from the beginning-forgive them "Lord "they neither go into heaven themselves nor will they allow those who are entering to go in. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:19pm On Feb 06, 2019 |
So if I am standing on a bridge and my friend decides to jump off-does this mean I will do the same? You need to understand people chooses to live through choices. gurusubai7: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:51pm On Feb 06, 2019*. Modified: 2:13pm On Feb 06, 2019 |
The Witnesses make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, to be the only true representatives of God, to have the only correct biblical teaching, and to be the only true announcers of Jehovah's coming kingdom. If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's word, then what they say should prove to be true and especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, more then likely he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature. {Deuteronomy 18:22} "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do. In1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God. 1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621). 1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' {Revelation 16:14} which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101). 1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii). 1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in {Hebrews 11} to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). 1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262). 1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106). 1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3). 1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262). 1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232). 1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338). 1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288). 1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them, " (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968). 1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975? " (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494). A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also? A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--Jesus said: no-one knows the hour when these things will happen, only God knows, "the Watchtower should have left the scriptures in tact-they shouldn't have lied against the truth, to draw people in to believe their greatest lie ever. {Matthew 24:24} TATIME: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:04pm On Feb 06, 2019*. Modified: 1:26pm On Feb 06, 2019 |
It doesn't matter how we explain things to you-Janosky-you are just that stupid kid-trying to make some sort of a name for yourself--your heart deceives you, understanding the Word-isn't your idea-you will always find a place in your heart to try and destroy the written Word of God.. You don't know the Word-even if it is, staring at you, you can't recognise it, typical JW, always believing you can stand on the front line without wearing the armour of God. You should listen to yourselves, how you produce yourselves on here, you are a disgrace-shame on you-repent and ask the Lord to forgive you, your mouth's are full of poison-your Mother's are praying for you, that one day maybe God will forgive you-your hatred for other's outside your organisations is climbing high, your rewards are full of dead man's bones, you have been deceived-none of you speak the truth-but lie against those who seek after the Lord. Most Christians are faithful to the Bible’s teachings, {you are not faithful to the bible's teachings-but a lair and a deceiver} {Revelation 21:8, John 8:44} You lie then seek forgiveness from those to whom you have lied too {The JW's don't seek forgiveness} Christians obey the Gospel {Not the JW's} "He is faithful and forgiving us our sins to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” {1 John 1:9; Matthew 5:23-25} Janosky: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:59am On Feb 06, 2019 |
We are not all teaching various versions of just the Trinity-we are preaching everything from the Bible.. This is the trinity you refuse to understand: {1 John 5:7} For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. One Father, One Son and the Holy Spirit-are three persons in One-this is the Word of God-we preach to you, nothing more-we have explained it to you' in our ways of understanding the scriptures-we have spent hours a day searching the scriptures-everything we have given you is written in the bible. And still you have refused it' even after you have read the very same verses, "from your bibles. So it's not directly our teachings to you, it's bible teachings we share with you. It's these teaching's we Christians believe, the bible isn't only written for the natural 'but in Spirit-In the natural you know-In the Spirit you don't know. You JW's turn against us like raven wolves-you throw all sort of abuse against those who love the Lord--everything we have produced is written down in the bible. Fools first learn the scriptures before you cast the first stone-your abuse is your own-your reward is from men-it's meddling people like you, who haven't the slightest idea which end is up... TATIME: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:51am On Feb 05, 2019*. Modified: 1:09am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Janosky:I wasn't expecting you to know the Trinity Word, it means a group of three things or people: in Christianity, the existence of one God in three forms, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit The flesh can only understand the things of the flesh-the Spirit understands the things of the Spirit-so JW you haven't a hope in Hell to understand the things of the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit--without receiving the Spirit Himself.. Janosky:Jesus said: He will send us a helper-the Spirit of God lives in man-the Holy Spirit is part of the God head-Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are three persons in One--and yet I find it quite strange-how you agree upon the fact Jesus sent us a helper to teach us all things, and still you refuse the God head at the same time. Now it seems by your own conclusions, you believe the Holy Spirit had wasted His precious time, when it is written-when Jesus said: go out unto all the nations and baptise them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.. What better way-when Jesus said: to Thomas, you believe because you have seen Me, bless are those who don't see Me and believe-the Holy Spirit really wasted His precious time when He gave the disciples the Words to write-say and do. If it wasn't through the Holy Spirit-we wouldn't have the evidence, God existed.. I suppose we would end up like you-denying it's power of the manuscripts that were written through the Spirit filled disciples, it was these Holy men who seen and witnessed "God in Three Persons--The Trinity Explained"below. But as you have posted all over the net, by your own conclusions the Holy Spirit had wasted His precious time, explaining the God head through His scriptures.. {Genesis 1:1-2, 1 Corinthians 8:6, 2 Corinthians 3:17, 13:14, Colossians 1:15-17, 2:9, Isaiah 9:6, Isaiah 44:6, John 1:14, John 10:30, 36, Luke 1:35, Matthew 28:19, Matthew 3:16-17, John 14:16-17, Romans 14:17-18, Luke 3:21-22, 1 Peter 1:1-2, 2 Corinthians 1:21- 22, 1 Corinthians 12:4-6, Ephesians 4:4-6, John 14:9-11, Philippians 2:5-8} So when the Spirit of the Lord guided the disciples to write down the scriptures, you say-it's a lie when the Spirit of the Lord came-He taught the disciples how to write the manuscripts, you still say it's a lie, it was He who helped them to remember about their jouniy they had with Jesus-and more-they had visions and dreams, in Spirit and in all truth-the disciples saw things our flesh could never understand. Janosky: 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:14am On Feb 04, 2019 |
Question: "Will we remember our earthly lives when we are in Heaven?" Answer: {Isaiah 65:17} says, “For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.” Some interpret {Isaiah 65:17} as saying that we will have no memory of our earthly lives in heaven. However, one verse earlier in {Isaiah 65:16} the Bible says, “For the past troubles will be forgotten and hidden from my eyes.” It is likely only our “past troubles” will be forgotten, not all of our memories. Our memories will eventually be cleansed, redeemed, healed, and restored, not erased. There is no reason why we could not possess many memories from our earthly lives. The memories that will be cleansed are the ones that involve sin, pain, and sadness. {Revelation 21:4} declares, “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” The fact that the former things will not come to mind does not mean that our memories will be wiped clean. The prophecy could be suggesting the wondrous quality of our new environment. The new earth will be so spectacular, so mind-blowing, that everyone will quite forget the drudgery and sin of the current earth. A child who is scared of the shadows in his room at night completely forgets his nocturnal fear the next day on the playground. It’s not that the memories have been wiped out, only that, in the sunshine, they don’t come to mind. Also, it’s important to make a distinction between the eternal state and the current heaven. When a believer dies, he or she goes to heaven, but that is not our final destination. The Bible speaks of “a new heaven and a new earth” as our eternal, permanent home. Both passages quoted above {Isaiah 65:17 and Revelation 21:1} refer to the eternal state, not the current heaven. The promise of wiping away every tear does not come until after the tribulation, after the final judgment, and after the re-creation of the universe. In his apocalyptic vision, John sees sorrow in heaven: “I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, ‘How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?’” {Revelation 6:9–10} John is obviously in heaven {Revelation 4:1–2} and he sees and hears those who obviously remember the injustice done to them. Their loud calls for vengeance indicate that, in the current heaven, we will remember our lives on earth, including the bad things. The current heaven of {Revelation 6} is temporary, though, giving way to the eternal state in {Revelation 21} The story of Lazarus and the rich man {Luke 16:19–31} is further proof that the dead remember their earthly lives. The rich man in hell asks Abraham to send Lazarus back to earth to warn the rich man’s brothers of the fate awaiting the unrighteous {verses 27–28}. The rich man obviously remembers his relatives. He also remembers his own life of self-serving and sinful comfort {verse 25}. The memories of the rich man in hell become part of his misery. The story does not mention whether or not Lazarus has memories, but Abraham has definite knowledge of goings-on earth {verse 25} It’s not until we reach the eternal state that the righteous will leave all sorrow behind. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:31pm On Feb 03, 2019*. Modified: 12:25am On Feb 04, 2019 |
JW's don't believe in the bible-well enough to know the scriptures, a JW's understanding is sort sighted, they can't see into the distance--the light in Heaven is out of reach for disbelievers-Hell is the blind leading the blind that chooses to be in darkness until now, the JW's believe heaven only exist for the 144000, they believe while they rest in their graves in Hell, they lay in wait-waiting for the Lord to make the New Heavens and the New Earth.. .. What does this got to do with anything-nothing-The point I am making here 'what does anything the JW's have to say-have anything to do with the bible in the first place'' it doesn't matter how simple the Word of God is, and how well we explain the Word of God-it's the fools such as the JW's are not interested..{Lord forgive the JW's they don't know the things they have been taught-lost soul's ready to be condemn in Hell} It doesn't matter because the world know's it's own-and the scriptures-tells us that--so it wouldn't matter what we say-how many times we explain the truth-without having the Spirit of God-the JW's will never understand it, the devil always finds away to come up against God-and God's chosen-these people are fools 'it's pointless trying to talk to somebody who refuses to obey the commandments of God.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:01pm On Feb 03, 2019*. Modified: 12:26am On Feb 04, 2019 |
Yes you have said that right 'we don't want to be part of the Jehovah witnesses, and there's good reason why we shouldn't follow their false doctrines of Hell.. It's always the same with you people when you know you haven't got an argument to argue against us with, you blame other resources to fill in your mental state of minds. We are bible believing Christians-where you are not a bible believing Christian-you don't understand the Trinity word-because you don't have the Spirit of the Lord in you to understand it's meaning! TATIME: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:25pm On Feb 02, 2019*. Modified: 8:09pm On Feb 02, 2019 |
{Mark 10:13-16} People were bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them. Woe to you, JW scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let in those who wish to enter.. Hypocrites first seek the kingdom of God before you criticise those already entering in, be aware judgement day is standing at your door, Watch therefore and pray always that your flight won't be in winter.. Is this highlighted enough for you Describe a JW to the best of my knowledge Answer: they lie and do not practice the truth. Explain are JW's false prophets. "Yes false prophets. How do I recognise a false prophet. Easy 'look under the cults section on the net, the Watchtower is one of the main attractions, and if that isn't enough evidence for you, go out and find kingdom hall, enter into it, sit down and listen to them preach a doctrine full of dead men's bones-and all uncleanness. {Matthew 23:27} What other thing would you like to share about the JW's Jesus said: many false prophets will come in His name.. The Watchtower is a man made organisation-these are worldly partners joined together preaching man's false doctrine, these belong to the Watchtower which is recognise as a cult claiming to be the only true body of Christ-yet they do not preach the truth-but come to us with dead men's literature 'these are knowing as wolves in sheep's clothing, devouring innocent widows, strangers and Children of God, leading many away from the truth, the hole truth, and nothing but the truth,, Amen.. Barristter07: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:01am On Jan 30, 2019*. Modified: 1:40am On Jan 30, 2019 |
This is an interesting video// the JW's argument is about {Matthew 6:1-4} And how the elders deny the young JW man after the young man had read the scriptures, he believes he doesn't need to go out on the streets like the heathens do, nor do the JW's need to blow their trumpets as the hypocrites do, to be glorified by men.. By what little knowledge the elders think they may have denying the scriptures-this young JW is actually reading his bible-and he had laid them out with the truth--One JW elder said: {not turning in time-means street walk} this worries him more then pornography, the elder continual to say, not turning in time is worst then porn// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3ZlxLEy6U |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:21am On Jan 30, 2019 |
{Ephesians 2:19-22} Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit. {1 Corinthians 6:19:20} Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.… The last time I looked Jesus is talking about His body of believers, we are the temple of the holy spirit: JW's don't have this sort of temple, because they believe Jesus is talking about a man made building structure.. {Acts 7:48,17:24} Do they not know the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. Now it is prophesied The Antichrist is the opposite of Christ. Just as Christ came to earth to do God’s will; the Antichrist will come to do the will of Satan. He will be Satan manifest in the form of man. You maybe mistaken which god your serve, Satan’s whole ambition is to be like God in power and might, and he works for this with all of his might, night and day. “Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” We can't forget the JW's are pushing for a new world order-a one man system who authorities the world, this is he who sits in his temple as god.. Their bible gives them away ''New World Translation.. {2 Thessalonians 2:4} His intention is to replace God, and he will send the Antichrist as a means to do this. The Antichrist will deny mankind’s necessity for God, and assert himself as ruler of this world. Satan will sit in His man made temple at the end of this age.... Barristter07: 2 Likes |
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