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Politics / Re: Police Arraign Sowore 'With A Broken Nose' & 4 Others In Magistrate Court by bskyb(m): 1:27pm On Jan 04, 2021
Jaazz:
By Arrewa,

Dear igbo mod.
When your people insult and castigate my tribe I don't complain or even report cos I know that the moderators would
never do anything about that.

Why is nairaland making it normal to stereotype and castigate the whole of Northern Nigeria but will never tolerate that against the East??

Dear seun, let's assume you have strong hatred for the north.

Don't you know we have thousands of Christians and Atheist here in the north?

We have thousands of Northerners here on Nairaland who are mostly silent readers.

They don't complain or insult back doesn't mean that they are not here.

This igbo mod has been following me deleting my comments that criticize the east.

I sometimes complain but nothing is being done about that.

Now he decided to ban and silent me for absolutely no reason.

Seun nairaland is supposed to carry ever tribe, region, religion along.

Not only the the north... Other regions and tribes get attacked too.

So on Nairaland only the Igbos have the monopoly of bigotry and tribalism.

I can never be silenced!! I will never stop standing tall for my region.

My only crime is defending the north against stereotypes from people who their only aim is to paint her black, castigate and stereotype her as their region is doing any better.

Seun I need to be unban and publicly be apologized to!!

Cos I am not going to take this ban lightly...!!

We have more than a thousand of Ipob users spreading hate and insulting people with full impunity here on Nairaland.

But the only threat to the Igbo mod is Arrewa.

This is the greatest hight of injustice and hypocrisy!

The only me standing tall for my region is who they want to bring down.

Dear seun, Posterity will have it that Nairaland is Anti Northern Nigeria.

Imagine banning me for defending my Heritage, my region and my people from the Igbos who their only aim is castigate and insult us even for no reason.

Dear seun, The worst investment ever is investing in hate.

It is a total waste of time, energy and resources. It makes the person you hate stronger and eventually destroys you.


I hope you get justice.
Regardless of the outcome, strive to keep your discussions free of ethnic colorations, and divisive innuendos. You will find that it's not worth your sweat at the end of it all.
The speciality of many folks here is to throw abuses at others. More often than not, they get several likes on their post for such jabs. That is why many refuse to make comments, they just read topics and move on.

There is an urgent need for Nairaland to have rules, and play by them. Too many infractions go without anybody throwing in words of caution or even punishing errant fellows. Thus, the victims of such take laws into their hands and throw caution to the winds in a bid to retaliate. Many times, the MODs suddenly wake up to their duties when it is too late.

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Travel / Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 10 by bskyb(m): 8:05am On Dec 24, 2020
bskyb:
I saw "approved" on my profile yesterday. Should I go ahead and pay the Courier fees to VFS now? I sent it to Abuja VFS on the 27th of Nov.

Also, I heard that the courier fees is 11, 000 plus for each family member. Is this fee per family member or for all? Thank you, and God bless

@ pettyemi4 and any other person. Thanks
Travel / Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 10 by bskyb(m): 8:03am On Dec 24, 2020
I saw "approved" on my profile yesterday. Should I go ahead and pay the Courier fees to VFS now? I sent it to Abuja VFS on the 27th of Nov.

Also, I heard that the courier fees is 11, 000 plus for each family member. Is this fee per family member or for all? Thank you, and God bless
Politics / Re: Kankara Schoolboys’ Abduction & Rescue Is Scam — Afenifere by bskyb(m): 11:38pm On Dec 18, 2020
Patrioticman007:
What a shame from peddlers of death & evil,
Just because the Bandits did not kill any of the students victims wailing wailers are not happy.
Had some of the boys been killed these same wailing wailers will be shedding Crocodiles tears .
Una go wail tire.

It is amazing that some people are almost celebrating this mishap. Interestingly, the topic was further tweaked to bring more sensationalism to it and probably attract more clicks. Have we lost our consciences? What is the difference between those who said Chibok did not happen, and those who claim Lekki was just a Jamboree?
It is more disheartening that a veteran MOD of Nairaland posted this. He could have hidden behind other monikers like some others do, to perpetuate this evil. This is really sad!!.......I hope Seun, who was my friend in Uni days, will get a handle on this site.
Politics / Re: Kankara Schoolboys’ Abduction & Rescue Is Scam — Afenifere by bskyb(m): 11:34pm On Dec 18, 2020
lalasticlala:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/12/kankara-boys-abduction-rescue-a-big-scam-at-our-expense-afenifere/

I don't think you read the story you posted before writing that attention-grabbing headline. That headline does not represent the substance of that article. Now, that many people have visited this page, and more money comes to Nairaland, and perhaps more likes for you, I hope you have counted distant the cost of fragmenting Nigeria further.
It is not often that we are able to control our instincts for immediate gratification, and I understand that it is difficult, but I also expect that some of us will act above board.
Politics / Re: Abducted Katsina Students: Military Has Located Bandits’ Enclave ― Presidency by bskyb(m): 9:00pm On Dec 12, 2020
Righteousness89:
Oga Garba Shehu I don't think the Nation needs to know if you near the enclave or you have seen the Enclave!
All that will Gladen the Citizens is to see that those kids are rescued from the bandits/ terrorist!

I had hoped that at some point in the press release, they would state that they have been rescued. Sadly, nothing of such

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Phones / Re: Deceitful Offer From Jumia, Please Help!! by bskyb(m): 11:20am On Nov 26, 2020
TalkTalkTwins:


I would have supported you if I didn't see this screenshot

OP, kindly cancel the order and request for a refund
If if you be Adeleke, you worked for the money and deserve better

I rather gift someone 10k than lose it to scammers

I think you are right.

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Phones / Re: Deceitful Offer From Jumia, Please Help!! by bskyb(m): 4:37am On Nov 26, 2020
AFONAMARO:


I am on about correcting a deceitful act and not interested in any unnecessary banter

Many outlets use words that need to be carefully interpreted.
Here, it is stated that you have discounts "up to 10,000".
Therefore, it means the discount can range from 0 to 10,000. It is not clearly stated that you will have a 10k discount. This is likely to be the clause they will rely on. It is commonly used across the world, so it's not a case of "Naijja has spoilt ".

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Politics / Re: Lekki Shootings: CNN Vs BBC Video Report. Who Do You Think Gave A True View? by bskyb(m): 6:02pm On Nov 19, 2020
ashacot:
Well, after both videos, I feel both have their report based on the availability of evidence present. That the BBC reporter said no one died at the lekki toll gate contradicts CNN report. But remember the BBC reporter said she was there for a little above 20mins. While CNN report said the Army shot for hours.

Nice unbiased analysis. Well done
Politics / Re: FG May Increase VAT Rate By Additional 2.5% In 2021 by bskyb(m): 9:12pm On Nov 03, 2020
So, where in this long epistle is any reference to an impending increase in VAT? Abi, which kind journalism be this?
Knowing that our people are generally busy and would rather base their judgements on headlines, it's sad that headlines such as this is permitted
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by bskyb(m): 7:54am On Oct 31, 2020
Chibueze90:


I fancy interacting with a learned,mature mind because I learn one or two things from the convo.
Thank God you're in the system.

Now my replies and question base on facts because I don't believe in assumption's.

First, it shows that u acknowledge that there are discrepancies on ippis platform towards payment of universities salaries,
Now can you kindly tell me hw many yrs do you think it will take ippis to rectify those errors cos from fact shown, non of the staff has received there supposed full payment and if peradventure the platform can be corrected, why is it taking them so long to do the necessary adjustment if it can be done easily? my oga, seeing is believing, if ippis platform works perfectly, it will be easier to convince ASUU..

secondly, if miracle happens and ippis was rectified, who will bear the arrears accumulated due to ippis errors?

Thridly, the location institution ippis corresponding officer office is located where?
( Abuja or universities)

I can confirm to you sir that since ippis has started paying salaries since Feb, NO PAYSLIP HAS BEEN ISSUED TO ANY STAFF IN MY UNI.
I will humbly wait for your reply.
Thanks





You have asked pertinent questions.

Yes, IPPIS typically has teething problems. It usually takes 3 to 6 months for errors to be corrected. This shouldn't be. Our usual lackadaisical and unprofessional way of treating others is the usual culprit.
I will project that UTAS will not be without such problems, because it is the same Nigerian worker who will prepare it and input the necessary values.
Staffs here (where I work) are receiving their full salaries. I won't say all, because peope are keeping the fact that they registered under wraps, but those that are my close friends are receiving full salary.

Once rectified, the arrears are paid by FG. The other point people haven't really spoken about is that some staff actually get paid more than they are supposed to be paid. They get deductions over succeeding months as the system gets regularized.

The trained IPPIS staffs who form a loason between local institutions and Abuja central office are primarily employees of the local institution and they work within it. Their offices are located in the local institutions and not Abuja.
For example, increases in cooperative payments, temporary stoppage of salaries for those on leave of absence etc is done within the same month of request in most hospitals right now.

There are often local forces against IPPIS, and the reason is usually because it reduces the amount of monies that institutions can steal from having ghost workers, improperly placed staffs etc.

I am aware of institutions where the monthly wage bill was reduced by about 50 million when IPPIS was introduced. It totalled almost 1 billion Naira annually.

Secondly, for people looking for jobs, it encourages institutions to employ as they have no incentive for keeping spaces. (They are said to keep ghost workers on , in order to continue using the personnel costs for other things) .
Remember there were news articles on these things.
In fact, a Teaching Hospital in the southwest hurriedly employed staffs to fill up the spaces at the advent of IPPIS.

You may also recall that resident doctors also felt the same way about IPPIS initially. They fought against it. In fact, it started around 2012 and then was stopped because the association of resident doctors fought against it. Fast forward to 2015/2016, the same resident doctors association started fighting for it, when they saw that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages and that the rejection of IPPIS only truly favoured the management of institutions, who allegedly used the excess monies inappropriately.
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by bskyb(m): 10:35pm On Oct 30, 2020
Chibueze90:

let me explain to you the reason why ASUU reject IPPIS.
first, FG brought up an idea of ipps 11yrs ago (2009) to be implemented to all MDAs, which is good idea but then some discrepancies in ipps was detected that might not suit ASUU payment , because ipps platform is just like a Excel data sheet format in which EVERY ALLOWANCE paid to every workers is present there but it was seen that some organization allowance peculiarities were not included in the platform..Now I believe that fg Should have confirmed ,amend, add and correct the necessary abnormalities in the platform but they failed to do necessary adjustment SIMPLY because the software was built by word bank with billions of naira and for them to adjust anything on the platform, they need to contact world bank and pay another huge billions for the correction, the reason is that the BACKEND OR IPPIS DATA BASE IS NOT IN NIGERIA (lol).. very pathetic
secondly.. from my careful investigation..I came to understand that lecturers salaries were consolidated.. ie their salary comprises of basic salary and peculiar allowance.. now this is where there is confusion, lecturers re claiming that TAX should be deducted from there basic salary but ippis is deducting taxes on both there basic and allowance because lecturers salaries are consolidated but ippis is seeing there consolidated salaries as basic, hence the deduction's.
Also lecturers claim that there promotion is not stationary..ie lecturers promotion are not base on hw many yrs u re in the institution but it depends solemly on the more certificate u aquire ( msc ,PhD, ) and also quality journal published..now after you ve gotten the necessary documents and qualifications due for promotion, you will be appraised by your Dept, faculty n finally school Senate before u will be promoted.this can happen at any month of the year, but ippis mode of promotion is stationary, Ie, promotion is sessional , maybe two times or once every yr, if u miss that particular month or period, you wait till next year even when you're qualified for promotion.
Another stuff I also discovered is that ippis office is only situated at Abuja, any complaint by lecturer, eg in unilag base on mistake or error in payment will require the person to travel from Lagos to Abuja, lodge in a hotel for days until the person is attended to Compared to there formal method of operandi in which lecturers can simply go to there burser for any complaint and they will be attended to at no risk and expense
And lastly...
i can confirm to you that since ippis has been paying universities staff salaries, they haven't provided the payslips to the workers... technically if you need payslip, you go to Abuja to collect it..

I hope this help


You have made great points .
My response is below:

You mentioned that ASUU has peculiar allowances which other civil servants do not have. The hospital workers also have special allowances, the most popular of which is the hazard allowance . They are on IPPIS. Therefore, adjustments to the platfo6can be made and I believe it can be made easily. Why?
Recently a new cooperative society was created and a column was created for deductions. I am sure the said cooperative society was not include ab initio by World bank and I a sure FG will not spend billions to have a local coop society with a net value of 30 million Naira incluuded on IPPIS

Doctors and many other health workers salaries are also consolidated, that's why doctors' salary scale is called CONMESS (consolidated Mesdical Salary Scale) same with CONTISS, CONUAS and others.
Yet, they are not complaining of over taxation.

My bro, the implementation of promotion is not stationary on IPPIS. Various organization's do their promotion exams at different times of the year and they get their promotion dues and arrears as necessary. Till now, there is no unified date or period for promotion exams. This point is one I am hearing for the first time. Even FG will not want to turn promotion exams into Jamb , where admissions are done once per annum.

Yes, the central office is located in Abuja. However, there is a local institution IPPIS corresponding officer who is primarily trained for that purpose. He /she remains a direct employee of the parastatal or MDA. They are usually chosen from the finance dept. That is how changes to cooperative society deductions etc are done without you having to go to Abuja.
The main difference is that there is a limit to the approval that the local officer can make and his actions are vetted regularly.

As per the pay slips, we seem to have different experiences. Payslips are available over here. It is still hush hush because it is only the people that "went behind " to register that are being paid. Understandably, no one wants to expose his pay slip.

Let me have your opinions on the above.


### I am I the system and well embedded, so I should know some things first hand
Politics / Re: Nigerian Army Secretly Moved 20 Lekki Massacre Victims To IDH Mortuary by bskyb(m): 8:27pm On Oct 30, 2020
ibibiofirstlady:
SR and fake news

The responses you will get are abuses o.
We are in an era where responses to intelligent questions na abuse.
Wait for it.....

Sorry, this is actually for Oblitz.

Anyway, I see you are receiving some flaks already. Lol
Politics / Re: Desmond Elliot Crying On Live TV Following Backlash by bskyb(m): 8:14pm On Oct 30, 2020
fexyrich:
my friend just shut up abeg...U guys are always fond of attacking people when they say things that don't go well with u...were u happy with the violence that broke out?? Why are you guys attacking the young man just because he condemned the violence??This is the problem of social media..u attack people's personalities just because their opinion differs from URS hereby getting the person depressed..He is human too bound to make mistakes that's if he made any...just shut up already please ..let hatred and bitterness leave ur hearts

Watch out!! they will come for you.

Meanwhile, it's seems people did not watch the video. Unless the word "cry" was used figuratively, then there is a problem ooo.

This is the same way someone will post a headline that Igbos are killing Yorubas, and a counter attack will start without any confirmation.

Social media should not be gagged, buy originators of fake news should be identified and dealt with.

People should read about Rwanda and other examples. We need to control our emotions.

I have seen less than 10 people pointing out the fact that he did not cry as purported by the author of this post.

The MODs are partly covered by their disclaimer, but they should remember that if Naijja burns, they will also feel the heat

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Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by bskyb(m): 6:51pm On Oct 30, 2020
weyreypey:

No time for shalaye

Lol.....

You may wish to read my response to Chiefs.
He is an example to follow.
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by bskyb(m): 6:50pm On Oct 30, 2020
ChiefS:


It negates the law governing Universities. The principle of autonomy which took ASUU many years of strike . It does not capture the peculiarities of lecturers. Lecturers have specific allowances that support publishing in journals and attending conferences. A lecturer is expected not only to teach but do research which should be published in journals and presented at conferences. The cost of publishing in local journals range between 35 and 100k. While open access international journals cost between $1,000 and $2,500. This he does using his lean salary. No lecturer is promoted without having a good number of publications in local and international journals. The mantra in academics is "publish or perish".

Those attributing lecturers' rejection of IPPIS to their visiting status to other universities are not aware that the lecturers that serve as visiting lecturers are mostly visiting lecturers to private and state universities which are NOT on IPPIS. So it is impossible for IPPIS to detect it.

Also, IPPIS does not take into consideration other peculiarities like visiting lecturers from foreign universities whose services are required to support some departments that need their expertise. Universities all over the world don't operate in isolation.

Thank you for taking your time to respond in a responsible, intelligent manner.

My counter response is as follows:

I am aware of the ASUU's stance on university autonomy, which is great. But, changing the platform of payment of salaries (which is what FG is proposing) does not stop that. It is like an employer stating that he will now pay using Oracle backed platform rather than Microsoft. Now, imagine the employee getting angry because of that.

Yes, lecturers have peculiarities (research allowance, sabbatical, visiting, earned allowance etc) and they are entitled to it. However, it has been shown that IPPIS can cater for those as well. I do not want to disclose where I work or what I do. But, I know quite well that lecturers who registered on IPPIS are being paid these allowances without any issues.
Also, health workers have peculiarities, all of which are captured o. This same IPPIS. They go on sabbatical, visiting, collect call duty allows, are members of co-op societies etc.

Bro. I am a well published researcher, and I know what the costs are like. You were even conservative to an extent for the high impact foreign journals.
As I wrote earlier, they deserve the allowances they get and more. The issue I raised is that these allowances can be catered for on IPPIS as it is being done for other workers with such peculiarities.

As per visiting scholars from foreign universities etc. It can be taken care of.
Healthworkers , particularly doctors go to other hospitals for these things and are captured. Same way, people come from abroad and are taken care of.

IPPIS is a platform, just like UTAS is a platform. Both can be adjusted to fit what you want. After all, they were both made by humans and as the saying goes (na the person wet make pencil also make the eraser).

I had really thought that ASUU will use this opportunity to ask for salary increment and other allowances, rather than fighting over the platform of payment.

As per people taking up visiting. I wish it was only 1 or 2 visits that people take up per month. There are people who visit 4-5 places. I am aware of a department with 6 academic staffs on paper, but only 2 are on ground, all others visit from another place. Meanwhile, this same department has post-grad people looking for jobs. Those 4 people are occupying their spaces.

I look forward to reading your response.
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by bskyb(m): 6:31pm On Oct 30, 2020
weyreypey:

You cannot. Unless you stop being deliberately s.illy

This is a sign of emptiness. Someone has asked a simple question, stated in very clear signs.
Your first and only sentence in response is an abuse.
And we will gather and abuse Adesina and other political appointees for talking down at people.

Is it that we go d it difficult to make intelligent discussions? Countering proposals with well thought responses?
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by bskyb(m): 6:28pm On Oct 30, 2020
yellowman2225:


The question you need to ask yourself is this.
Why is NA, NPF, NPA, NNPC, FIRS,NAF , CBN, NNPC, Judiciary, Politicians, not on the IPPS Payment Platform?

FGN just categorized everyone to be stripped of benefits and packed them all like SARDINES under IPPIS.

I Will only support the FGN in the day I heard NNPC, CBN And the Armed forces are on IPPIS


I don't think we need to involve those other workers for now. We are concerned about ASUU and their insistence not to be on IPPIS.
I have simply asked why they don't want it and I have not received an answer yet.
I am sure the answer can not be -"because NNPC staffs are not on it".
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by bskyb(m): 11:31pm On Oct 29, 2020
sinkhole:
Yes of course! And mind you, if you visit, you will only be given a sealed salary of around #100k! And this is the reason why some lecturers go to as many places as they could, so they could accumulate #100k!

I would like to k ow exactly why ASUU is against IPPIS.
This same platform is being used to pay almost every other FG employee. It is flexible enough to accommodate the peculiarities of lecturers. It is being used in hospitals, esp teaching hospitals where many of the doctors there are lecturers and also visit other hospitals.

If you state the reasons, I will respond

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Politics / Re: Reason Onions Are Expensive In South-south/south-east by bskyb(m): 8:34am On Oct 29, 2020
Shall we say that FG caused ordinary Nigerians to burn facilities that they use? Deeds done in a moment of anger can have repercussions that last for decades.
#we can protest peacefully.
The consequences of violence can be massive.
Politics / Re: Gunshots As Hoodlums Loot Dogara’s House In Jos by bskyb(m): 3:00pm On Oct 25, 2020
kettykings:
This is not good news because by the time they hoodlums finish with the upper class, the next class might be the middle class where a lot of Nigerians are presently or working very hard to belong .

The middle class is what runs Nigeria. It is Nigeria's payload and must be preserved by all means



This looting and carnage should just stop before Nigeria falls into full scale anarchy and civil war

Reading a thoughtful post like this is refreshing.
Politics / Re: President Buhari: 51 Civillians, 11 Policemen, 7 Soldiers Died In Unrest by bskyb(m): 8:04pm On Oct 24, 2020
emmyN:


This was what I was trying to draw your attention to. You would believe the figures given by the presidency even though you have not seen families of the victims, but you doubt that from an eyewitness' account which was shared live on social media. What gives?

My statement that " I believe the figures reported by the presidency reflects the total numbers in Lagos and perhaps places like Osun and Ondo states." Was probably misunderstood. I meant that the figures released by FG is by their own estimates, a total of all the deaths nationwide. I never stated that we should take their figures hook line and sinker.
Politics / Re: President Buhari: 51 Civillians, 11 Policemen, 7 Soldiers Died In Unrest by bskyb(m): 7:58pm On Oct 24, 2020
emmyN:


This was what I was trying to draw your attention to. You would believe the figures given by the presidency even though you have not seen families of the victims, but you doubt that from an eyewitness' account which was shared live on social media. What gives?

At no point did I say that I believe either of the accounts. Usually, the answer lies between the two extremes. The government will underestimate, the protesters will overestimate.
My stance remains, we should call for calm while trying to get the truth and nothing but the truth.
All found wanting should be punished.
Politics / Re: Residents Share COVID-19 Palliatives To The Poor by bskyb(m): 6:10pm On Oct 24, 2020
Jorgenvava:
Thank God DJ Switch has finally made a video about what happened that night. For those who didn't watch it, she mentioned two forces; the Nigerian army and the police force. The Nigerian army came first, and when they left, the police force (SARS) continued. Perhaps, reason why there was an increase in the death toll and why the army also denies it.

Now, you may be wondering why DJ Switch and others took the bodies to the soldiers. Let me tell you

Now, in her statement, she said k the post, I didn't see
"This is the toughest



Reno Omokri tweeted on 17th,


"I just got privilege information that there is division in the military about how to handle EndSARS protesters, with Burutai pushing for a Shiite scenario, similarly to the Zaria massacre."

This was on 17th October, 2020. The Lekki massacre happened 20th October, 2020 with the military and SARS hiding dead bodies so they can easily twist the story.





Do you know what these guys are doing?

They want to discredit the Lekki story and they are winning!

These people maimed the Nigerian Youths that went out to protest for a better life, they killed them, and threatened their family to keep quiet.

They are monsters!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QVmb-Tb1g

I think this is the correct link. It is left for us all to make reasonable deductions without being abusive or causing further mayhem


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QVmb-Tb1g
Politics / Re: Zainab Abdullahi: 'Aisha Yesufu Is A Jew In Islamic Shirt' by bskyb(m): 5:56pm On Oct 24, 2020
Dayvidblue:
See this one, demanding that someone be killed for having an opposing view, how pathetic can some people get?

I think this lady should be arrested cos her utterances are capable of inciting violence.

This kind of hatred is mind boggling. Someone protested and expressed her opinion, another person wants her dead. Not only that, she has said hurtful things about a whole race.
Sadly, she will have some support.
Politics / Re: Residents Share COVID-19 Palliatives To The Poor by bskyb(m): 5:47pm On Oct 24, 2020
Jorgenvava:
Thank God DJ Switch has finally made a video about what happened that night. For those who didn't watch it, she mentioned two forces; the Nigerian army and the police force. The Nigerian army came first, and when they left, the
Francis said
He had to announce his name to prevent them from shooting him. This was how people got his name and thought he led them. Here is the link below to read this information:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.withinnigeria.com/2020/10/21/brigadier-francis-omata-clears-the-air-on-lekkimassacre-names-officer-who-led-the-operation/amp/

Yes, the Nigerian Army under the command of LT. Col S.O Bello, gave the command to kill unarmed protesters. Who sent

Who are they?




Now, let's look at a time line of event since the Lekki Massacre:

Sanwo-Olu wrote;

"This is the toughest night of our lives as forces beyond our direct control have moved to make dark notes in our history, but we will face it and come out stronger." This was by 7:43 10/20/20.

Meanwhile the shooting continued until the next morning. Forces beyond our Governors control stopped him from directing the ones under his control to stop the shooting.

We also heard the military was looking for the survivors of the shooting to kill them off.

This was after Sanwo-Olu wrote,

"There are currently 10 patients at the Gen. Hospital, 11 at Reddington, and 4 at Vedic; with mild to moderate levels of injuries while 2 are receiving intensive

These people maimed the Nigerian Youths that went out to protest for a better life, they killed them, and threatened their family to keep quiet.

They are monsters!

It seems you forgot to post the correct link to the video you wrote about. It would be nice to hear from DJ Switch who was on ground zero that day.
Endeavour to get the right link and post it, many of us want to see the truth. If you are unable to get it, please say so, because many people already took your words as gospel truth.
Politics / Re: President Buhari: 51 Civillians, 11 Policemen, 7 Soldiers Died In Unrest by bskyb(m): 1:28pm On Oct 24, 2020
thatigboman:
apart from lekki and ogbomosho, where else did u record mass killings?

There are reports of deaths in Mushin, Surulere, Ondo state and Edo State. Those are the ones I can find some evidence for. To say that their were no deaths might be false. Similarly, to say that 78 died at Lekki toll gates from bullet wounds might be false.

I advocate that we seek the truth and the truth only. When figures are deliberately skewed by either side, it results in more chaos and distrust. The damage that the lies about the Lekki incident has done to the movement as well as to the FG and by extension, Nigeria as a whole in unquantifiable.
I believe everyone here is educated, we can choose to believe what we want, but let us do so with all sense of responsibility. That is what I was trying to preach with my initial post. People should not shut their minds to facts, we should also listen to the voice of reason.

Afterall, if push comes to shove, all the politicians we are fighting with will leave the country, leaving ordinary Nigerians to cope with the carnage. Just as it happened a few days ago, the intellectuals will not be able to stand the heat after a while, and hoodlums (people who have guns and are ready to use it) will take over. Several examples abound, Libya, CAR, Iraq, Syria etc......we should learn to fight, but we should also learn to negotiate.
Most wars end on the negotiation table nowadays. Even US is negotiating with Taliban!!!!

May God help us.


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/422150-endsars-three-reportedly-killed-as-police-shoot-at-protesters-in-ondo.html#:~:text=At%20least%20three%20people%20have,to%20restore%20law%20and%20order.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35B2OVJ-j4I

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/421240-two-killed-as-thugs-attack-endsars-protesters-in-edo.html

https://businessday.ng/news/article/endsars-protest-no-fewer-than-15-deaths-recorded-in-edo/
Politics / Re: President Buhari: 51 Civillians, 11 Policemen, 7 Soldiers Died In Unrest by bskyb(m): 1:10pm On Oct 24, 2020
emmyN:


Given that the intensity of the protest was not evenly distributed nationwide, you should agree that the most casualty would be recorded from areas with more turnout and volatility. Now in the days coming how many reports of civilian deaths have you seen in the news? Does the figure tally even close to what the President just gave? Where does the surge come from? Have you seen families of any of these so-called 51 come out to make death claims? I'm sure the President is lying.

I agree with your first statement to an extent. A big variable as you mentioned is the relative peacefulness or volatility of each protest ground. I believe the figures reported by the presidency reflects the total numbers in Lagos and perhaps places like Osun and Ondo states.
No, I have not seen families of dead victims coming out to make claims. That casts doubts on the initial figures being bandied around on the social media and this means we should all be cautious when figures are churned out on social media.

What happened could have led to a civil war, a semblance of which has been experienced by the shop-owners and business people whose livelihoods were snatched from them in the name of protests.
And this would have all been because of unconfirmed reports.

I know that lots of people have their minds made up and no matter what you say, they will not change their minds. They would rather abuse you, and that was why I posted what I posted.
Politics / Re: President Buhari: 51 Civillians, 11 Policemen, 7 Soldiers Died In Unrest by bskyb(m): 1:01pm On Oct 24, 2020
Jack005:
zombie cum paid miscreant. Are people supposed to die when it comes to protest? Mad man.

Try to be calm when you read this.

You have made over 300 posts on Nairaland, over 40% include abusive words, at least 50% of the remaining posts are posts in response to people who you have similar ideologies with.
I understand that due to the nature of their environment or upbringing, some people lack the ability to have civil discussions. You are not a child and I realize that I can not change you, but I can hope that you will look at yourself and make up your mind to change.

You may wish to look at my post again, show it to others if you must (humility is not a crime, neither is ignorance). Perhaps you will begin to understand my stance and why I wrote what I posted.
It might interest you to know that I have been able to contact those who were at the Lekki ground zero and I am speaking from understanding. You may disagree with me, but do so in a civil manner.
If your next response is still like the first, I might not respond to it.
Politics / Re: President Buhari: 51 Civillians, 11 Policemen, 7 Soldiers Died In Unrest by bskyb(m): 5:46am On Oct 24, 2020
Biodun556:


This one is nationwide not Lekki

They know. They just decided to ignore that fact. To some, all the deaths occured at Lekki and there is nothing you can say.
When your facts are to glaring, they will start abusing you, saying things like "Zombie", "you can not understand ", "have you been paid by your masters" etc.

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Politics / Re: Teacher Beheaded In Paris Suburb After Showing Cartoons Of Prophet Mohammed by bskyb(m): 11:55pm On Oct 16, 2020
Let God, who is the almighty, fight for himself. He is more than able.

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