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Lol, This op Don make Boys Vex this Sunday afternoon.
A very stupid Girl.

halfricanadian:
I'm waiting for the fool that would say he owns me

even if every single soul in my world choose u love u

Till i breath my last i wont get d facts ryt aint scared of dying

I just never want u i choose death over u a billion trillion million times

What's this one saying

halfricanadian:
I'm waiting for the fool that would say he owns me

even if every single soul in my world choose u love u

Till i breath my last i wont get d facts ryt aint scared of dying

I just never want u i choose death over u a billion trillion million times

What's this one saying

I think where the problem is, is when they Forfecully subscribe a customer. Apart from that it's not a crime for a third party to advertise their services but it should be subscribed to only if the customers opts in and the customer should be able to opt out.

Worst of all is that even when u decide to patronize them, they don't bring quality Contents.

irunooboo:
[size=13pt] I sleep outside at night without wearing pant and bra so breeze can flow in and out of every hole. The heat can make the blood dry. I pity men with Big dicks in this weather. Their dick and epon region will ooZE so terribly when one wants to give them a BJ because of the crazy heat[/size]

This one na human being?

Hmmmm, Why does all this still feel unreal to me? In two weeks a bread seller becomes a model and now a motivational speaker? Does she speak English fluently?
How am I sure this is not all one big ACT.

Well I maybe wrong, if this is true then I tap into the grace and favour of God on olajumoke's life.

That's too bad... Well, that one na una sabi

Princewell2012:
HMMMM i don't know why my christian brothers are like this.

They have resorted into insult and attacks instead to correct and educate him.

Now on their minds they are trying to defend God.


OP God is not burning anybody with fire

Those words like hell and fire was just an illustration.

Is like if i tell you i saw hell today on my way to work, now does it mean i went to hell or enter into literal fire? no i just use it to express and buttress a point. I once over heard someone saying that living in Nigeria is like living in hell

Jesus made an illustration about Lazarus and the rich man. he said the rich man was in hell while Lazarus was in Abraham bosom. So where is Abraham bosom


Now you heard people saying they have discovered the right location of hell on under these earth with millions of people with heavy noise of wailing.



Now if the rich man was in hell here on earth and Lazarus was in heaven how could they be communicating with each other even the rich man was also demanding of water.



Right now the judgement has never take place, nobody is in heaven right now except Jesus and the Angels, our father Abraham, Isaac, Samuel, Jacob, Job and the rest of them are still in the grave.

Only Jesus resurrected from the grave.


Then on the last days the righteous people will rise from the dead and they will join those who are still alive then to meet Jesus in the air. pls read 1thesolonian you will get the massage proper.


pls check the original meaning of hell in Hebrew language.


Jesus also go to hell.


So was he also tormented in hell


Pls we should allow the holy spirit to give us understanding whenever we read the bible.


I CANT BELIEVE IN THE REVELATION OF PEOPLE DYING AND WAKING OTHER THAN THE REVELATION AND THE PROPHECY WRITTEN IN THE WORD OF GOD.





THEY RE ENOUGH FOR ME.

Thank you sir. God bless you.
But please sir desist from replying the op any further. He just wants to engage in vain arguments. Even the Bible tells us not to do that.
Once again I was blessed by your post.

K9blunt:
true she has every right am not disputing that,

but you don't know why seun asked such question, the lady came back from work, did not relax or take water to ease of some of the stress she had at work but in her work clothes went to her friend's place to see her for no reason,

how are you sure she did not have a reaction from exhaustion, or she was going through shock?

I am tired I would've engaged you in this topic, but FYI. even though you are a believer of spiritual things you have to be objective before accepting a story hook line and sinker........if not I wonder how it would be if you're to solve a case of sudden death, you'll be quick to say "god giveth, god taketh" when it would've been a simple but serious case of ulcer, or heart attack.

smh

I myself I don't believe in every spiritual thing I come across I have seen people in church throw themselves up and hit the ground just to deceive people and their pastor. Am not saying I believe hers either... But I believe she's free to post whatever experience she had in this section without this unnecessary objective views.

You people should just learn to let people be and enjoy their experiences.

kilode100:
Awww Sweetheart, I done marry already and what the husband doesn't know doesn't hurt him abi?

Awww....

CHINEKE!!! Just negodu.... Ewu

K9blunt:
he is a human being with thinking faculty, you should've read what he typed with an objective mind. he has a point with his questions. what if her body was reacting to hunger and remember our bodies work differently and mysteriously.

jeez................

I Don't think it's our place to be objective with what someone just shared with an honest open mind. This is how we discourage people from sharing things like this.
I think if she was hungry she would have said it in her post. Just because you haven't had that kinda experience doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

And even if one don't believe in it... Then I think it's best the person just ignores the post than to post something so derogatory as that.. If that was suppose to be humorous then am sorry it's a failed attempt at humour. Let's be reasonable for once. Now with that kinda "objectivity" do you guys think she would share stuff like dis again.
Plus this is the religion part of this forum right?? Then she has every right to post her "spiritual" experience here without unnecessary subjection to objective thinking. Thank you.

4C2215131:
Is the 'owner' of Nairaland not a human being. Why can't he just comment like any other bloke here. Shush it!

Yes and that's why more is expected from him. He can comment but he shouldn't comment like what he did back there.
You expect more from Buhari not because he is a Nigerian but because he Is The president.. Get it??
Don't quote me if you can't think reasonably.

Seun:
@thoniameek: How hungry were you when this happened to you? When last had you eaten and what time was it? It's not clear from your story.

Is this suppose to be funny? I expect better from the owner of nairaland. At least if you don't believe in spiritual things you could have as well not post anything. You trying to mock God?

Very disappointed.

Can the athiests answer the question kingebukasblog asked ifeness... You guys are putting up the sumerian gods as an argument but I thought atheism was belief in no God or gods at all.
So @ifeness do u believe in the sumerian gods? If you don't which I know would likely be your answer then bringing up this argument by you was totally pointless and shows how desperate you are to lie to your self that God doesn't exist.

Question:
Why is it that people try to compare the ancient Sumerian tablets, saying that they are similar to the book
of Genesis? Why is it that people try to relate those gods to the God in the Old Testament?
Answer:
It is difficult to judge the motives of people I have never met. I am sure that those who do this do so for a
variety of reasons.
It is only natural that anthropologists, historians and those who study religion to look for parallels between
the earliest docoments of the Old Testament and the Sumerian/Babylonian/Akkadian religions in
Mesopotamia. Presumably, the book of Genesis has its roots in Mesopotamia from the early part of the
second millennium BC. The parallels are not just a figment of the imaginations of scholars. The parallels
between the Gilgamesh Epic and the Genesis flood story are really striking. Both have a universal flood
coming on mankind. Both have a man building a large boat and saving his family and a number of animals
on the boat. I am copying and pasting an article on the parallels between the Gilgamesh Epic and the
Genesis flood account. The question naturally arises: Where did these obvious parallels arise? Did the
Jews borrow their flood story from the Sumerians? Did both accounts arise from a common real event in
the distant past? Might the Sumerians have borrowed their account from the Jews? The last option seems
unlikely because there is evidence for the Gilgamesh Epic from before 2000 BC, but we cannot rule out that
the ancestors of Abraham passed along the account we now have in Genesis.
So, good, honest, open-minded scholars and students of religion will look for parallels and comparisons
between Judaism and Mesopotamian religion. When they do so, the differences are far more striking than
the similarities, although some scholars do not agree with the rather obvious (at least to me!) fact.
Mesopotamian relition was polytheistic. It had elements of ancient animism as well. It was "primitive"
religion when compared to Judaism. Skeptical, non-believing scholars try to paint early Judaism as
polytheistic, but there is no solid evidence for this. Judaism appears from its inception to be a fully
developed monothism, with out all the superstitions of Mesopotamian religion and the fantastic (and
unbelievable) stories of gods and their petty intrigues. The Genesis creation account is absolutely unique
among all creation stories, both in its simplicity and in its scientific accuracy. To conclude that Judaism
evolved from a nascent polytheism is speculation which is not justified by the Hebrew text of the Bible.
Nevertheless it is not true to say that there is absolutely nothing in common between Judaism and
Mesopotamian religion. Both were formed in the cultural context of Mesopotamia. Both were influenced by
a massive flood.
The local religion of Mesopotamia finds its way into Genesis indirectly, for example when Laban chased
Jacob down in an attempt to get back his household gods. In conclusion, it is not just skeptics and
unbelievers who look for parallels between Sumerian religious ideas and customs and the book of Genesis.
This is a potentially fruitful area of research for Bible believers as well. (do not forget the Q & A below with
more details about the Gilgamesh Epic)
John Oakes, PhD
Question:
I recently viewed a documentary claiming that ancient tablets (older than OT manuscripts) were found in
Iraq, telling a story almost identical to Noah’s… and that the soil there showed signs of an ancient flood as
well (unlike the land around Mount Ararat). The final conclusion was that Israel received this "story" from
the Babylonians while in captivity. Do you have any insight about this?
Answer:
The ancient tablets you refer to probably contained what is commonly known as the Gilgamesh Epic,
although it is difficult for me to say for sure without seeing the source of the information you refer to. The
Gilgamesh Epic was known to the ancient Sumerian and Babylonian cultures. The epic was almost
certainly composed before 2000 BC. It has been estimated by some to be based on a tradition as old as
3000 BC. If one takes Abraham to be the father of the Jewish nation, as supported by the Bible, then one
can assume that the Gilgamesh Epic is older than the written, Jewish version of the story which is found in
the Bible, as Abraham died somewhere around 1850 BC.
There are significant similarities between the Gilgamesh epic and the flood account in Genesis, which
seem to defy coincidence. For example, in Gilgamesh, a god speaks to a man Utnapishtim in a dream,
telling him to constuct a boat because of a great flood which is coming. Although the stories are not
identical (for example, when God spoke to Noah, it was not in a dream) there is obvious parallel to the
biblical flood account. In the Gilgamesh Epic, Utnapishtum took his family, some friends as well as many
animals on the boat. Again, one can see parallels but also differences in the accounts. To deny any
possible common root to these two flood stories seems unrealistic.
There are two possibilities to explain this. One possibility is that the flood is an actual event, the memory
of which was carried forward by the survivors, finding its way into both Gilgamesh and the biblical
account. Another possibility is that one or the other was created first, and the other borrowed from it.
Assuming the second possibility, the question becomes who borrowed from whom? Logically, one might
assume that since the Gilgamesh Epic precedes the Bible account, at least in its written form, it was the
source for the biblical story of the flood. From an historical or literary point of view, this is hard to
disprove. However, if one can assume that the book of Genesis is inspired by God, then the idea of the
Genesis flood account being borrowed from Gilgamesh does not work. There is a great wealth of evidence
supporting the belief that the books of the Bible, and specifically the book of Genesis is indeed the inspired
creation of God. Of course, much of that evidence is found at my web site, to include prophecies in Genesis
which are fulfilled in Jesus (see my book From Shadow to Reality www.ipibooks.com ), historical and
archaeological accuracy of Genesis (Reasons For Belief www.ipibooks.com ), and so forth.
If the Bible, and therefore Genesis, is indeed inspired by God, then the most likely conclusion is that
Gilgamesh represents a tradition which goes all the way back to the actual flood which is recorded in
Genesis, and that the account in Genesis, being inspired by God, is a separate, but much more accurate
depiction of the actual events which occurred in this massive event as described in Genesis chapters 5-7.
If this is the correct explanation, then the parallels between the accounts are due to the fact that they both
describe the same, actual event, although with a different level of fidelity to the actual events. This is what
I believe to be the case, but I leave it to you to decide for yourself. As to the Israelites receiving the story
from the Neo-Babylonians while in captivity, I find this explanation very unlikely for a few reasons. First of
all, the Gilgamesh Epic was around in the time of the first Babylonian Empire, about 1800 BC, not during
the Neo-Babylonian Empire, under Nebuchadnezzar. Second of all, there is sufficient evidence, in my
opinion, to conclude that the book of Genesis was written in essentially its final form well before the time
of the captivity (586-538 BC). This would make the claim that it was borrowed from Neo-Babylonian
sources not work.
John Oakes, PhD

TheSonOfMark:

Crazy dude. In retrospect, it sure did seem like a movie.⚡⚡⚡

Yeah, it sure did seem like a movie. You guys really bleeped the guy up. I dey fear una o!
Anyway, No one should take what happens on nairaland to heart tho. It's all mostly for kicks. Am sure most of us live very different lives from what we exhibit here.
Good morning!

Wow!!! What a movie!!!
Starring - pbs4real, Pinkiebarbie and Darven

Other actors are;Laveda,Traplord, fun Lord, StfuareyouGod

If say dis na real movie una for win award. The hunter (pbs4real) became the haunted and was really ass whooped by Traplord and fun Lord. Who made us understand that he's currently following almost all the girls on nairaland. However.... It was a tale of betrayal as pbs4real found out later that one of his ass whoopers was his own personal homie (Traplord). So sad*tear*
However it ended on a good note as Traplord apologized and pbs4real accepted and went to bed

NO VICTOR, NO VANQUISHED
I just summarized the whole thing in case any reader don't have the mb to check the posts

Heheheehehehehehe.... And the Friday night continues..

Ayam waiting for the drama to unfold...
Darven are u saying pinkie is male or that the pic she's using is not hers but she's female??

If ur saying she's male.. Well dats a serious accusation which u have to prove.
If ur saying the pics ain't hers (which u said earlier. Saying u have info on the lady on d pic) Then also u Wud have to prove it. Personally I think she's female but I don't think the pics on her dp is hers.

Anyway, I could be wrong tho. Lemme keep watching.

Darven are u saying that pinkiebarbie ain't the one on her profile?

Darven:
I hate it when people deceive others and impersonate other people who are oblivious of the fact that their photos are being used on a social forum.
That's wickedness.

Hmmmmmm... Yes it's quite sad. It's low self esteem that causes things like that.
If your sure of wah ur saying then let us know. The other day it was Missnora... I just hope say today wunt be....

This shit is about to get real!!!@Darven illuminate us..

I don't even have an idea of who she is... No be only 80million naira. LIEnus.

Bro, that's why I keep insisting you read and study
Faith is not equal to not reasoning properly... No, faith is having a personal conviction of something.
How was the depiction of God in the old testament barbaric? Bro if God just delighted in killing us all he wouldn't have created such a beautiful Garden and planted Man inside

But man WILLFULLY sinned against God, just like many of us do... You do a lot of things today that God didn't like why are you not dead yet At the very heart of this question lies a
fundamental misunderstanding of what both the Old
and New Testaments reveal about the nature of
God. Another way of expressing this same basic
thought is when people say, “The God of the Old
Testament is a God of wrath while the God of the
New Testament is a God of love.” The fact that the
Bible is God’s progressive revelation of Himself to
us through historical events and through His
relationship with people throughout history might
contribute to misconceptions about what God is
like in the Old Testament as compared to the New
Testament. However, when one reads both the Old
and the New Testaments, it becomes evident that
God is not different from one testament to another
and that God’s wrath and His love are revealed in
both testaments.
For example, throughout the Old Testament, God is
declared to be a “compassionate and gracious God,
slow to anger, abounding in love and
faithfulness,” (Exodus 34:6 ; Numbers 14:18 ;
Deuteronomy 4:31 ; Nehemiah 9:17 ; Psalm 86:5 ,
15 ; 108:4 ; 145:8 ; Joel 2:13 ). Yet in the New
Testament, God’s loving-kindness and mercy are
manifested even more fully through the fact that
“God so loved the world that he gave his one and
only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16 ).
Throughout the Old Testament, we also see God
dealing with Israel the same way a loving father
deals with a child. When they willfully sinned
against Him and began to worship idols, God would
punish them. Yet, each time He would deliver them
once they had repented of their idolatry. This is
much the same way God deals with Christians in
the New Testament. For example, Hebrews 12:6
tells us that “the Lord disciplines those he loves,
and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.”
In a similar way, throughout the Old Testament we
see God’s judgment and wrath poured out on sin.
Likewise, in the New Testament we see that the
wrath of God is still “being revealed from heaven
against all the godlessness and wickedness of men
who suppress the truth by their
wickedness” ( Romans 1:18 ). So, clearly, God is no
different in the Old Testament than He is in the New
Testament. God by His very nature is immutable
(unchanging). While we might see one aspect of His
nature revealed in certain passages of Scripture
more than other aspects, God Himself does not
change.

@anti particle can you explain to me your search for God, can u detail it for me lemme see. Am very sure God revealed himself to you if your sure you honestly seemed him without any doubt.

Is it possible you had already stated being skeptical before embarking on this search?
Is it possible that God revealed himself to u but it wasn't as dramatic as you would have wanted it to be, hence not convincing enough for you?

I believe in the God of My Bible, being skeptical about The Islam religion is me not even taking time out to even study it at all, but I did and I found it not to be what I wanted
But then you have told me you have searched for God and he didn't reveal himself to you, well at this point I don't have anything or say again, cos it would be pointless.

Was your search for God based on wanting to believe in him or just an intellectual study of God. Do you know that they are many Christian scholars who are not Christian (regenerated)

Finally, this your if you want anyone to listen to you.... And I ask, how do u listen to me?? When you start listening to me would you tell me on this forum that you have now started listening to me??

Also you have told me no offense in almost all your post, are you trying to get me offended?? Well, am not offended bro. Am not trying to convince you am just saying what I believe in.

In your personal time read psalms 53.
Cheers!!!!

Antiparticle:
Bros, if Christianity had any correlation with morality Nigeria would today be a very prosperous country. You are also implying that not believing in the existence of Yahweh is due to a desire escape from morality? While your statements may come out of good intentions, I think you need to educate yourself on world history over the past 2,000 years in order to disabuse yourself of the notion that Christianity and morality are synonymous.

Also, you propose that atheists don't know God because they haven't made any real effort devoid of doubt and skepticism. What do you propose? Humans should follow what the Bible says without asking any questions? So, tell me, why aren't you a Muslim or Sango worshipper? You obviously aren't a Muslim or Sango worshipper because you are doubtful and skeptical about it (to put it lightly). I hope that you realize that you, also, are atheist towards all other world deities/religions outside of Christianity.

Make better arguments bro if you want anyone on here to listen to you. No offense intended.

Once again am not offended.
You see am not here to argue. Am not very good at arguing. One thing I have learnt from the bible is that God is all about having a personal encounter with him. Mere words like this can never fully change one to God. All I expect you to do is later just ponder over them, I may not bring you all the scientific and all the arguments you expect to see, all am telling you is what I know. And I pray it guides you into the truth.
Am not skeptical over Islam or other religions, read my post I advised that you also study this religions and come to a conclusion your self. I have studied some of them especially Islam and am convinced that Allah is not God. I have many Muslim friends and am always open wen dey "evangelize" to me.
No, morality is not equal to Christianity. Someone can be a good person without knowing christ. Like I said in my post if you read it at all, or all u do is just pick out points to disagree upon and "argue". I said I believe many atheists are morally upstanding. But morality is not enough because as much as we are good we are still human, imperfect.
,selfish and Christianity demands selflessness and so much more things that could only be done when u know christ, not in our morality
That's why the bible says "OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS (MORALITY) IS AS FILTHY RAGS BEFORE THE LORD" when we claim to be moral, the lord still sees so much flaws that only christ can settle.

If you read my posts I encourage you to ask questions, Even God doesn't want u following him blindly like many Christians who were indoctrinated into it. God wants you to ask questions and have answers, but you probably would never find one if you keep seeking it the way many of you do, seems you already have your answer but u still claim to need answers wen u already have "found" it.

Finally anti-particle I may not argue the way u want probably ur a good historian and scientist and all, am not. You argue from the knowledge you have, I argue from the little knowledge God in his mercies has revealed to me.
What is your definition of "listen" does it mean somebody openly telling me on this forum "Am listening, you are convincing me" I don't think any of you would do that if that's what u mean
But am sure someone is listening, reading this thread and deciding to check this God out and see if what am saying is all bollocks. Someone who is at the point of falling from Knowing christ and fall to unbelief would one day come across this thread and his/her faith would come alive.
am not forcing you,i can't convince you for My God. My God can always prove himself in his on time HE IS GOD!
AGAIN logic and Christianity don't mix that's why my posts may not even sound logical, am sorry. That's just what Christianity is all about its all about FAITH. AND the bible tells me that faith comes by hearing the word of God. Not by logic, historical data, or whatever. By the word of God.

You see why many of atheists don't know God is because you haven't any real effort devoid of doubt or skepticism.

Someone asked why God cast Satan down on earth why not other planets. So I wanna agree that you don't believe in creation. So lemme use the evolutionists theory. Why did you evolve on earth? Why haven't other humans be heard of evolving on Mars or Jupiter? Well I believe earth is still the only planet that fully supports life. Like I would say go and read Genesis and you would see the original intention of God was a life devoid of evil, struggle and Satan. God didn't cast down Satan on earth so you could be tried by him, no.God has given you power over Satan. Satan for now owns the earth till Jesus returns to claim it back for himself. God created the universe but he didn't create everything for habitation by beings(spirit, man, animals) he created some of them just to show us his majestic power.

When you say God sacrificed himself to himself and all that, it's just a deliberate effort to make it sound stupid, well I have nothing to say there cause it only takes a believer to understand the concept of the trinity of God
That's why the truth still remains that logic and spirituality doesn't co-exist. Not just Christianity, the spiritual breaks all logic. When you come to an understanding of what the term "God" means then you would understand that God can do anything that's why people who still argue over the immaculate conception hasn't still understood that God can do anything and everything that's why his word says that with God ALL things are possible

Atheists need to understand that, but then they don't even believe in God sef let alone that verse of the bible.

What every atheist needs to do is SITDOWN and really do some soul searching. Why don't you just give God a try since most of you all ready claim to be moral and I believe u are. Unless you just wanna live a life that you know is not what God demands hence you use atheism as escapism from morality
If your really sincere then search for The true God. Even as a Christian I wouldn't tell u not to search the Koran, Torah or other religious books, please do,search for The one true God with sincerity and patience and I pray u wud be directed to the right path

After all what have you got to lose? Nothing.

Antiparticle:
Bros, I appreciate your kind attitude.
You say we should disregard the Old Testament. Why? Didn't Jesus say he came to fulfill the law?
Granted, Jesus (supposedly) came to fulfill the spirit of the law not the letter of the law as had been done in the Old Testament. In any case, the Old Testament God was a merciless genocidal and infanticidal maniac.

So let's only focus on the New Testament: I would agree with you that Jesus was nice dude who created a revolutionary template for how people should love each other. But he wasn't the only such dude to have walked the earth. Also, he was not divine. The oldest Gospel, Mark, was written decades after Jesus died, and the oldest Mark manuscript doesn't even have the resurrection story! In addition, in Mark, Jesus did not claim to be God. It was in the newer Gospels, particularly The Book of John (written several more decades later), that the unquestioned divinity of Jesus was asserted. Also a lot of Christians think that Messiah means God; in Judaism, Messiah didn't mean God... in Mark, Jesus claimed he was Messiah not God.

Also, up until the Nicene Creed in the 4th Century, the idea of Christ's divinity wasn't even a universally agreed upon belief among practitioners of Christianity at the time! It was at this conference that a bunch of people decided that Christ was divine and the trinity was real. Think about it again... it was 300-400 years after Christ died that his divinity and his part of a so-called trinity became a standard part of Christian belief.

My point is that Christianity has had a revisionist history since inception. I don't disagree that Jesus was a great man (if he existed), but he provides no evidence to prove that he is/was God. Tell me about any miracles he claimed to have performed, and I will tell you about miracles other humans/deities at that time claimed to have performed. The Bible's claims about his wondrous works are as true as Buddha's or Sango's claims.

If the Christian God exists, it befuddles me that "He" would create rational empirical beings yet expect them to worship "Him" without providing them proof of "His" existence.

If this doesn't raise more questions, I don't know what will. Just wanted to share my thoughts bruv. No offense intended.

PS: I can talk theology if you want to... when I was Christian I read as many expositional theology and apologetics books as I could get my hands on (excluding books by materialistic pastorpreneurs such as Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, and their Nigerian & American ilk). I really thought I was getting closer to God, until I found myself across the proverbial Rubicon.

Am not so vast in theology however lemme say some things concerning your post.
Yes Jesus came to fulfill the law because the law as it was wasn't perfect. The bible tells us that now the law is no longer on tablet stones but in our hearts. On the cross Jesus said "it is finished" meaning he has finally perfected the law. The law on its own can't make us righteous because instead it shows us how weak and helpless we are in the face of God. However once we believe in Jesus, we live above the law. The rule Jesus gave us was "love"
Do you know that once you have love in your heart, living above those laws would be easy.

Wen u love others as your self, you won't commit adultery cos it could be ur wife next time
You won't steal from someone u love as u love ursslf
Check the others to once you love u wud keep them even unconsciously.

Bro, a messiah is a saviour. And remember the gospels are account of different men, who saw christ in different ways.
From all the gospel Jesus said he was God " I and my father are one" meaning he's God.
Yes I agree every religion claims to be right. That's why you need to find the truth for ur self, all of them can't all be true. Even the bible tells us to test all spirit.

Bro, christ has provided enough evidence, but if u need more, honestly and patiently seek it. He's faithful and just.
God in his wisdom created empirical beings cos contrary to your belief he doesn't want forced worship, he wants you to worship him cos u want to. Am sure God would see you thinking so smart and smile lovingly, saying "That my creation, my likeness"
God didn't create you to believe in him like a robot. He made u to think.

Finally, the trinity is hard to understand, however God explained a little to me
An egg is an egg, even if it's toast, scrambled or fried
God reveals himself to us according to our relationship with him and our knowledge of him.
That people don't understand something till later even after the revelation of it doesn't make it false
Till today am still yet to understand mathematics fully

Am not offended bro. That wouldn't make u understand the love of God.

BeastOfNoNation:
You say black men were busy worshipping stones and rocks. As opposed to now where we're supposed to worship the air and a crucified dead man. Please I don't want to offend but I just wanted to point that out Why could God not find a more peaceful way to spread his religion? Before Christ, the Jews suffered for being God's people. When Christ came, he suffered on the cross. After he died, the Catholics suffered and were killed for practicing their religion in Rome. After the fall Rome, Charlemagne forcefully converted people to Christianity or threatened to beheaded them if they chose otherwise. During the medieval ages, common folk in Europe suffered under the rule of the Catholic church. During the Holy Crusades, many black people were taken from West Africa, tortured, enslaved, killed and forcefully converted to Christianity. During the Holocaust, most of the world's Jewish population was wiped out in concentration camps. Aboriginal people in Canada were almost completely wiped out by 'Christian' people and then the children were put in residential catholic schools where the nuns and priests would routinely abuse them. The world's current situation where countless Muslims are running away from their homes because terrorist groups are suicide bombing and trying to kill them. What is the benefit of the Abrahamic religions again? Please answer it for me because I don't know.

Happy independence day
In the Jewish times, the blood of lambs, goats and birds were used as sacrifice to cleanse sin, now if your an avid bible reader you would see that the blood of those lambs didn't cleanse sin, rather it only Covered sin and that wasn't what God wanted from his people, he wants a deep, loving, holy relationship with us. So Do you know what he decided to sacrifice himself so he could put a stop to all the goat sacrifice. A part of the old testament God could be heard saying "I do not take pleasure in burnt offering, obedience is better than sacrifice"
What God wants from us is obedience not even sacrifice so he came down in form of man JESUS CHRIST
Note:The trinity is God but in three forms (person).
If I toast egg, Fry egg, boil egg it doesn't mean it's no longer egg, it's still egg
So Jesus paid the price and was the ultimate sacrifice. It wasn't cruel. Jesus wasn't killed. He laid down his life for you and I. Jesus said in th book of John. "I lay down my life, no one takes it from me..."

Now to the crusades, you know we human mind is so broad and we tend to abuse most things even religion. However Christianity is a way of life. If people really follow the precepts of it, the crusades wouldn't have come up. The crusades were even more political than religious. God doesn't need anyone killing for him. Y did christ fix the ear of the man Peter cut off... He picked it up and fixed (that's a miracle that can't be faked) it. When Hitler killed Jews he said God told him to do so... My God couldn't have told him that. He was under the influence of the devil.

Yes there is some blood shed on the trail of Christianity, but I bet you those people either have another motive or they are not Christ-like(Christian)
Where did you see christ kill anyone in the bible??
Those killings where not from God. They were just being humans who doesn't even understand what they claim to believe

Finally, do u know the use of the old testament (Abrahamic religions)
Is so u can appreciate what christ came to do in the new testament. The old testament should not be read and put in practice now, no. It should only be read as a reference, wen u read it also read the new testament you would then appreciate wat christ did for us.

all4naija:
God is a fairy created by primitive human beings. There is not evidence it exist somewhere, anywhere or will ever exist. It is purely a lie to control and deceive people and possibly the lack of ability to understand the physical phenomena.

If the God you are talking about here is the God of the bible who is Jesus christ... Then he's not fairy.
However if your talking of Amadioha, Allah, sango e. T. C then I can't speak for them

I don't think you have really searched for God he's evidence is everywhere.
Maybe you should try searching for the devil maybe wen u see how real he is you would understand how real God is. Try joining an occult I mean a really deep one and you would see devil and demons in action and you would know that it ain't magic. The devil has power so does God but he's is greater. But I advice you, pick up a bible and u would see how available God is. What are the odds that if an atomic bomb goes off in Nigeria today that order and life would be created out of chaos(Basis of the Big bang theory) . Chaos only creates chaos. Look at the star, look at yourself do u honestly think u Came from a lizard, who evolved till it became an ape??

Only a higher being could av done all this wonder not some atomic reaction. Only the one true God.

Yes human beings tend to admit to something higher wen dey don't understand something that's the way our minds were created to work. The physical phenomena can never be understood completely this is irrefutable evidence that some thing greater is at work

Am sure you have not and won't understand everything that happens around you, so why don't u seek something higher so u cud understand it better.

I now understand so many things because I now know Jesus
Cos he's word tells us that we shall understand it better by and by...

Note :I don't believe in Jesus cos I was born into a believing family. In fact at a point I nearly became atheistic, cos I searched answers to so many things. And I questioned my faith.
But I found my answers by patiently, diligently seeking answers open mindedly.
Notice the word patiently. I know some of us may say "ppft, lemme give this a try" and you ask God for a sign by praying. It may not happen immediately please be patient and be alert so u can know wen it has happened

God bless you.
Cheers. Goodnight, we would talk more tomorrow

@keen, @beastofallnation
You both, made the same point in how I know "My God" is the one true God.
Now, do u believe in the existence of the Devil? I doubt if you don't believe in the existence of a God you would believe in the existence of the devil. That's why some of the things I would say now to you may sound posposterous just as the concept of God also sounds like that to you.

Now when the Muslims and traditionalists tells you Allah or Amadioha is the one true god. Don't throw it away yet. Pick up the quaran, pick up the bible(preferably the new testament), pick up also the Jewish Torah. Now do a study and ask the one true God to reveal himself to you. As you read them

The devil manipulates nature, if u read the Bible and some studies you would find out that the devil was thrown out of heaven due to his disobedience and when he fell he took with him about 1third of the angels and they became demons. Now the devil rules the earth, hence the need for the second coming of christ.
Devil and his demons has so much manipulated human beings that the devil had made people worship all sort of things (gods). This doesn't make them GOD. HENCE the numerous gods we have today. They are all manipulations of the devil. The devil craves worship, he wants to be worshipped like God but I bet if he comes in his true form and character, nobody would worship him so he disguises in form of sango, Amadioha, e. t. c and does "good" and people worship hereby decieving people

Even Jesus tells us that we should be beware that Satan can come in form of an angel of light.

Don't be deceived all this other gods are not God. The human mind loves to work and so the the need to create this things. But in the spiritual anything we attach any form of worship to becomes a god. Humans started attaching worship to stones, birds and the devil sees this as an opportunity to be worshipped.

Christian origin stated from the roman empire spread down to the geeks and spread further in Europe. So don't u think it's only normal for the white men to have brought us Christianity.
Though their motives were not pure. But christ sees this as an opportunity to reach out to the black men who were busy worshipping stones and rocks.

There is only one God. And that God is the God of the bible. Not Allah, not Amadioha. You can only reach God through Jesus Christ because he is God.

To your question @keen. The boy is physically challenged. So he's parents should seek for him if they love him
The human challenge is sin and do u know that God has already seek for you, he came down and died for you, felt what u felt went through the same challenges as you so he could understand you. Ain't that seeking? He's made himself available. He's already at the hospital bed (if he were the boys parent) standing next to the bed. The boys part in the seeking is just for him to open his eyes and see Jesus standing next to him

So keen Jesus has already seek you by dying for you, your part in the seeking ain't hard just accept him and that's all... Bam!! So easy and your automatically a friend of God. Christ doesn't want to "rule" you. He wants to be your friend. You have nothing to lose if at the end christ is myth (he's not) if u accept him. But think of just what if Christ (God) really exists (He does) what would u have to say. You have everything to lose

Cheers.

keenn:
I thought jesus was a god and not God, '...my father is greater than I am...'

I av always use the sun/gravity as absolute certainty of awareness, no sane person argues about their existence. You talk about this God as if u know for sure.

This is a platform, u don't need to spill 1000 reasons as u claim, 5 should do. Pls

Jesus=God. God=Jesus
Jesus came to earth as God-man. He was God but in human form.
When he made that statement he wasn't saying it from the God
Point of view. He was saying it knowing he was a man here on earth.

The sun and gravity which u make reference of was made by God. So the sun is as certain as God is.
Yes, she speaks of God Cos she has encountered him. I don't know you now cos I haven't had an encounter with you. Until I seek an encounter with you, I won't know you.
So why don't u seek an encounter with God. Then that way u would know him. If u honestly and open mindedly seek he would reveal himself to you, he wants to. He loves you even if you don't love him he still loves you.
So am by evidences concerning the existence of God. But lemme wait for her to share some with you and I would also share mine.

Cheers.