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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Blood Transfusions Sinful? by budaatum: 4:31pm On Jul 10, 2019

This is the sort of post you post that makes me conclude you plant a forest to cover your eyes and blind yourself and never consider that it might apply to your own hatred of others!

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Blood Transfusions Sinful? by budaatum: 4:28pm On Jul 10, 2019

OLAADEGBU:
It is clear that you don't get the gist. If JWs believe blood transfusion is sinful why would they open an hospital that gives blood transfusion? Try and read the issue instead of getting personal.

You should try and use your brain a little!

If JWs believe blood transfusion is sinful can they open a hospital that gives blood transfusion? And if they do open one, what does that tell you?

Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 4:24pm On Jul 10, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
Of course, what floats your boat. Whatever makes you sleep soundly at night

Suit yourself

C'mon now, show me where I've put a gun to your head and at same time coddling you to bow down and worship Jesus, erhn?

Even doubting Thomas, out of ignorance and with his brain, joined the multitude to do which is done, when he eventually believed.

I am not Thomas, muttley. I am buda, the buda that believes not but makes use of the brain and mind that the Lord God gave buda so buda can seek understanding, which I do not need permission from you to do.

If you missed buda's attitude to "believing", start here.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Blood Transfusions Sinful? by budaatum: 4:16pm On Jul 10, 2019

OLAADEGBU:
I wish you can talk like that when you come to knock on our doors to spread your false theology.

As for your question regarding blood transfusion, I doubt you'd be going to a JW hospital if you needed a blood transfusion, and if they knock on your door and you say "you're not interested", I'm certain, from my own experience of them, that they would dust off themselves the dust from your doorstep and depart from you, and not break down your door and insist on entering your house as you imply they would!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Blood Transfusions Sinful? by budaatum: 4:09pm On Jul 10, 2019

OLAADEGBU:
Can you point out to any post of mine where I was insulting others? Have I ever insulted you? If the issue is the Word of God that hits you then you should take up your issue with the Bible if you can.

All your JW posts are the word of olaadegbu and are insults and raves. You may understand this by noting how many non-JWs are telling you this.

And any issues I may have with my Bible or my God have absolutely nothing to do with you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Rosicrucian Order And Its Multiple Lies by budaatum: 4:05pm On Jul 10, 2019

Rosicrucian Membership

But before that, I strongly advise that you read all the free stuff that is available to find out if it is for you.

If the content of our website resonates with you, and you would like to become a member of the Rosicrucian Order, we would be honoured to welcome you into our midst to begin the definitive journey of your life.

By becoming a member of our Order you will be starting a process of inner discovery that has the potential to immensely enrich your life on all levels. Within you resides a veritable sleeping giant, and you already possess in embryonic form all the powers, abilities and sophistication that the most evolved and spiritually enlightened person could ever aspire to. But very few people believe they have such potential and consequently they don't even try to discover it.

There is an innate wisdom in everyone, but very few seriously try to find it. To unlock that wisdom and inner maturity requires the patient application of certain techniques of inner development in a controlled and steady manner, and the Rosicrucian curriculum provides all you will need to accomplish this. The Rosicrucian teachings and their associated techniques are incrementally revealed to you in a system of study and self development that will provide you with a clear roadmap to accomplishing your most cherished dreams. And when sincerely and correctly done, you will find happiness, peace and personal fulfilment that few in the world ever achieve.

We cordially invite you to become a member of the worldwide community of Rosicrucians, The Rosicrucian Order®.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 3:48pm On Jul 10, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
To the best of everyone's knowledge, Jesus never asked anyone to not worship Him either, so, I still maintain that you are allowed to bow down and worship Jesus Christ.

Jesus never asked people not to do quite a number of things (eat sand or hair springs to mind), so by your logic I pressume one is allowed to do such things?

Sorry, but I don't share that mode of reasoning.

MuttleyLaff:
Besides, I have given you quite a few instances of different sort of people bowing down and worshipping Jesus and Jesus never once stopped or rebuked any of them for bowing down and worshipping Him.

You sound like one of the sheep calling out to other sheep to obey the shepherd like you do lol. Can you not recognise I have a brain too?

Your instances do not trump the evidence gained from my use of my own God given abilities and the use of my own God given senses. One does not follow the multitude to do that which is done out of ignorance because one is not a brainless sheepie.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Blood Transfusions Sinful? by budaatum: 3:34pm On Jul 10, 2019

OLAADEGBU:
You guys should learn how to discuss issues, topics and not persons. It is not necessary to mix up persons and issues they are different. If you want to address issues then do so, you do not have to necessarily insult and call names when you do not agree with someone's opinions. You guys need to upgrade to the 21st century.

Your issue is your constant insults and raves against others disguised as discussing issues. We are telling you that we can see through your veil and we disagree with you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum(op): 3:31pm On Jul 10, 2019

Maximus69:
Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!! again and again and again for this!

Well in a bid to criticize that established fact as found in the book, all these atheists are fabricating one theory after another just to say NO to the idea.
They don't want to agree that anyone should teach them yet they insist on teaching others!

I might be missing your point. There is a stage in life when one is tutored, but when one stops being a child one should study instead. Is it not for this reason the Holy Spirit was sent to all?

As to teaching others on here, perhaps consider we are exchanging opinions, though some are obviously arrogantly claiming to know it all and therefore assume to tutor, but that which proves to be cream will rise to the top while that which isn't will sink.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum(op): 3:00pm On Jul 10, 2019

Maximus69:
Thanks to budaatum.
How can we know that humans love to talk this much and do everything within their capability to convince themselves that the source of life needed to be studied and fully understood?

Shouldn't one study and understand the source of life? And who is it that one must be tutored by if not those who have studied and understood?

God gave humans senses for a purpose. Those who don't use them will have the little sense they may have [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A14-30&version=ESV]taken[/url] from them while those who study and understand will "Be fruitful and increase in number, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground” and will be blessed.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Rosicrucian Order And Its Multiple Lies by budaatum: 2:51pm On Jul 10, 2019

Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 2:41pm On Jul 10, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
You are missing a trick budaatum, and you fail to notice and take advantage of a good thing, if you dont bow down and worship Jesus Christ or honour and revere Him.

A trick I'm delighted to miss since it means I'd rather learn and understand Christ than bow down and worship or honour and revere Christ. It's the difference between seeing through dark glass and knowing.

There is a reason why it is written that the Gospel is preached to the poor. As you well know, the Holy Spirit gives each individual the ability to understand as much as they put in the effort to understand. Besides, to the best of my knowledge, Christ never asked anyone to "bow down and worship or honour and revere" Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Rosicrucian Order And Its Multiple Lies by budaatum: 2:25pm On Jul 10, 2019*

danny56:
Question...What spirit is the ROC functioning with accepting all forms of religion without any problem?

Rocs don't particularly care about religion, is what is meant by "accepting all religions", which really means "accepting all human beings" regardless of their religion, creed, colour, race, tribe, gender, etc.

The same spirit that some religious people function with when they understand that "loving one's neighbours" means loving all human beings regardless of their religion, instead of assuming an Almighty God would be parochial and bigoted like some are.

An understanding of the parable of the pagan worshipping non-believing not born again nor regenerated unbaptized but doing good and shewing mercy Samaritan of whom Christ said, "Go and do thou likewise", is a lesson to heed.

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Celebrities › Re: Tennis Star,serena Williams Goes Almost Naked As She Poses For Gold-themed Shoot by budaatum: 2:12pm On Jul 10, 2019

Goog and you'd find worse than these, and fakes too, and I bet most of you wouldn't have the strenght to rape her!

Politics › Re: Senator Adeleke Gets Another Chance To Become Osun State Governor After Supreme by budaatum: 2:04pm On Jul 10, 2019

Kingosytex:
They are already rooting for 2022 elections when they aren't even sure of tomorrow...

Intelligent people plan ahead, stupid ignorant one's don't.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 2:00pm On Jul 10, 2019

Questions as these rely on a definition. Yours, CodeTemplar seems to imply "effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds", while wiki gives:

Religion is a cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements. However, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion.

The "essence", taking the definition I've given above, is simply to educate, albeit, archaic. If you could imagine a world where those around you have not been religionised into recognising commandments and loving their neighbours, you just might understand.

I can bet you wouldn't like living in a world devoid of people who have been religionised, unless you think there'd be brains in peoples' heads without it, which the evidence does not support.

Christianity Etc › Re: Metaphysics? by budaatum: 1:47pm On Jul 10, 2019

Many ordinary people die tragic deaths too, you just don't notice them but you will if you drive along Lagos-Ibadan Express Road with your eyes open.

Christianity Etc › Re: Stupidity Of Transgenderism by budaatum: 1:45pm On Jul 10, 2019

Christian doctor lost his job in government department after refusing to identify a six-foot-tall bearded man as ‘madam’, tribunal hears.

A hearing in Birmingham was told how Dr Mackereth believes transgenderism is a “delusional belief” and an ideology “which I disbelieve and detest”.

Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Man Urinating On Bible By Punch. Sensational Journalism Against Religion by budaatum: 1:10pm On Jul 10, 2019

SEENTALK:
This present COZA saga has led to lose of jobs for some people. One of the most widely read newspaper - The Punch, has removed some people over an offensive cartoon published in the newspaper last Thursday titled "What does Mrs Fatoyinbo know". The article was illustrated with a cartoon of a man desecrating the Holy Bible with urine.

https://www.nairaland.com/5291854/coza-man-urinating-bible-punch#80106264

Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 12:53pm On Jul 10, 2019

sonmvayina:
now you finally get my point..or where you pulling my legs in the other thread?

Perhaps you should listen more and try to understand before assuming to teach. There must be a fault in you assuming everyone is your student.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Do? by budaatum(op): 12:49pm On Jul 10, 2019

sonmvayina:
i am done teaching both of you...when the time comes isaiah 53 will become clearer to you...

but first answer this question on your own..

Amos 3:7 says ' Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing
without revealing his plan
to his servants the prophets.'

so which prophet did god reveal the jesus story to?...which prophet did god reveal Christianity to?

I'm certain others will respond to the questions you posed above sonm. You might want to consider a thread for it. This thread is called

"What did Jesus do?"

Imaginary Jesus or not, for I have constantly said that no Alice fell through a Looking Glass, but words still mean whatever humpty dumpty says words mean to him. Even a made story book about an imaginary Christ must have had some impact.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 12:21pm On Jul 10, 2019

pressplay411:
If you submit to the Word of God, then you will agree even without fully understanding it.

No one submits to the Word of God 411. What everyone submits to, if they submit at all, is their own understanding of the Word of God which is usually twisted to justify their own actions. It is as is written, "The Word of God was made for man, not man for the Word of God. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Word of God." ^baav

We twist our own understanding into it and claim God said essentially, just as Christ taught us to but using the key which is [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+13&version=NIV&interface=amp]love[/url].

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Blood Transfusions Sinful? by budaatum: 11:17pm On Jul 09, 2019*

Smartini:
I resemble JW for your eye? Another stupid assertion. Oga, lo wa ise se ... Stop being a Nairaland evangelist. Jesus went from city to city and from house to house. You're sitting in your one room apartment typing with your Itel phone forming online evangelist. If only winning souls were that easy, then Jesus would just sit in the synagogue every Sabbath while everyone comes to him. Grow up, man ... Leave the JWs. They're not the cause of your misfortune in life. Enough said.

We should start a thread titled:

Olaadegbu is it sinful to constantly go about opening threads condemning your neighbours?

Except he'd likely claim God told him to go about constantly condemning his neighbours!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 11:06pm On Jul 09, 2019

pressplay411:
If you submit to the Word of God, then you will agree even without fully understanding it.
This Scripture says it all.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.

I'm not the sort to submit to what I do not understand. If I did that, if Jesus did that in fact, he would have succumbed to the temptation on the mountain through a lack of understanding, and if I submit to what I do not understand it would mean that I completely misunderstood Christ's teachings. Christ, after all did not submit to the teachings of his day.

Solomon is my guide in this, for in seeking first the Kingdom of God all other things were added unto him. I'd rather ask God for understanding so that I do not have to submit.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 10:48pm On Jul 09, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
You are, in showing honour and reverence, permitted to bow down and worship Jesus Christ

I don't bow down and worship Jesus Christ or honour and revere him, whether permitted to or not. I learn from his teaching instead.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 10:46pm On Jul 09, 2019

pressplay411:
Lol Isn't Jesus Christ God?

The Scriptures (Bible) could become an idol though as theologians often become puffed up in knowledge as the Pharisees and Scribes who ended up crucifying the Saviour they had been reading and teaching about.

I wouldn't agree that Jesus Christ were God. God's Son, they say, but not Yahweh himself. I just can't see Yahweh submitting to crucifixion without turning everyone on earth to salt first or wiping it out with a flood or fire or something equally as devastating.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by budaatum: 10:10pm On Jul 09, 2019

Would you permit me to add the Holy Bible as a common idol of some please? Many do bow down and worship it even though they don't know they do.

I'd like to add Jesus Christ too but don't think that would go down well.

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Travel › Re: Adventure Of A UK Tier 4 Dependant by budaatum: 10:07pm On Jul 09, 2019

Even if you don't go school while there, you would have learnt a lot more than some who do with what you done with this thread. Not only have you blessed those following it you've educated too! See as someone just decides to give you £19 ticket as if dem be your family. I bet they weren't black.

Do let me know where to send my own payment too please. I do paypal and you deserve it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Quiz Question Of The Day!!! by budaatum: 6:58pm On Jul 09, 2019

Niflheim:
But how do you think we can stop these "thick skulled believers" from repeating such imbecilities? I love them so much and I don't want to see them hurt themselves!!!

By having a proper understanding of that which we criticise for starts, and not mistaking what some call Christianity for actual Christianity itself. Unfortunately atheists base their opinion of Christianity on believers and Christians, and not on their own study and understanding of the text itself and what Christianity actually is. Indoctrinated atheists, is a better description for them, for they too appear to believe just like the believers do.

The current attitude of atheists is that of throwing away the baby, the bathwater and the bathbasin itself when it is only the water that might be dirty, or the bathbasin that might be faulty. It's a great pity, for in my opinion, it is atheists, and those who have not been indoctrinated, that ought to have the ability to understand the philosophy of Christianity, and not mindless believers who have not bothered to consider that which they believe.

You might understand the ridiculousness of believing if I asked you to believe Pythagoras Theorem, Evolution, or that your parents gave birth to you. I'm sure there's a difference of attitude in understanding and knowing the implications of those examples instead of just believing them.

If atheist could read the text without the preconceived beliefs, they'd understand how Jesus was the atheist of his day. It was for that that he was crucified. Study Socrates and you might understand what I mean if I said Jesus went out of Plato's cave and they bashed his head in when he returned to tell what he had seen. Recognition of their error is what made them deify him, but which believers have no clue about. It is a great pity that this is not understood or we would be studying Christianity as a philosophy and not as a belief.

The way to stop people "repeating such imbecilities" and "hurting themselves" is to first remove the forest from one's own eyes by getting a proper understanding, for only then can you help those with twigs in their own eyes to see. But mind not to be crucified like Jesus was for noone will deify you after we crucify you!

That said, rejoice that NL exists where we get to challenge erroneous beliefs by philosophising as we do here. We would be stupider without it and you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Quiz Question Of The Day!!! by budaatum: 5:46pm On Jul 09, 2019

The religion of the hair eater is just plain stupidity and ignorance. Christianity does not advocate hair eating and anyone who thinks it does is ignorant about Christianity or just stupid.

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Politics › Re: Benin Versus London - How Times Have Changed. by budaatum: 5:41pm On Jul 09, 2019

Rossikk:
Saying they can do better is a far cry from calling them ''a disgrace''.

Learn to choose your words better.

I do see the one's I've visited as a disgrace I'm afraid. We can do much better and should. I must admit however that the one in Benin, going by pictures of it that I have seen, is a great leap forward, compared to the ones I have visited.

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Politics › Re: Benin Versus London - How Times Have Changed. by budaatum: 4:35pm On Jul 09, 2019

Rossikk:
So you're ''ignorant of'' the above major Nigerian museums, including National Museum Benin City, yet you had the audacity to loudly proclaim that ''Nigerian museums are a disgrace''. Wouldn't it have been better for you to have VISITED those museums first before condemning them before the entire world as ''a disgrace''? See how some of you Nigerians are your country's worst enemies?

I have seen pictures of them on the web and think we can and should do much better. The Museo Nacional de Antropología in Mexico, for instance, puts any museum we have to shame.

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