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vaxx:
well, that is figure of speech. Bible says , bible talk. All these
are meant to personify the bible.

According to bible itself in genesis, the earth was a dark water planet befmfore the creation. So let there be light is like when you walk into a dark room that has no light at all within it and you tell someone to allow there to be light in the room and someone begins opening the drapes for Sunlight to enter the room through the sheer curtains of the windows. The source of the light already existed before but it could not yet enter the room until the drapes were opened.

Dailyhappenings:
These biscuits were the reigning biscuits then.

vaxx:
The bible did not say God create light. The bible say let there be light . It is two different word.

HenryDion:
Have I in any way try to believe in ridiculous or irrational things, without it been proven beyond every reasonable doubt?

I said that I'm ready to let go of my 'atheistic stance' if compelling evidence about Gods existence is made known.

'Atheist stance' is simply a lack of belief in the existence of God for lack of evidence.

So, it is very reasonable and rational to believe in God if proven to exist. Not "believing", which centers on 'no proof'.

kkins25:
would the naija ecosystems permit him??

Michellekabod2:
You can never answer questions straight up ,you must beat round the bush and claim victorious like you did with advocate 666....
For example if you are caught stealing,u will refuse to be called a thief but will rather talk of others that are stealing as well...I have given you an instance where homosexuals don't need homophobics for proceation,you will not learn and acknowledge the fact that science has evolved but still retain your "truth"...counter what I said with fact,you will not,what is deep or beyond my carnal mind you can't explain plainly with beating round the bush?don't know for you again jesusjnr,in fact...I am done with this conversation as I gained nothing,you didn't pass any point and will not still do with the way you are going...

I expect an epistle from you filled with blame shifting and defensiveness and stubbornness with no point being raised but I will not reply

wckabuoh:
Its reall pathetic. APC has done more harm than good to Lagos.

HenryDion:
Have I in any way try to believe in ridiculous or irrational things, without it been proven beyond every reasonable doubt?

I said that I'm ready to let go of my 'atheistic stance' if compelling evidence about Gods existence is made known.

CAPSLOCKED:
THE PROOF OF WHAT HE SHARED HAS BEEN POSTED ABOVE BY ANOTHER USER, AND THAT IS NOT A BIBLE VERSE.

YOU DON'T TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT. YOU DON'T THREATEN PEOPLE WITH YOUR BELIEFS PUBLICLY. HE IS GOING TO LOSE THE CASE IN COURT, AND ANYWHERE THERE'S AN ASSEMBLY OF SANE MINDS.

hisexcellency34:
It's a lie to tarnish his image

HenryDion:
Hmmm.. Someone is missing a thing.

What other meaning have thou read to "atheistic"?

pflourish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkw_ZKu8aLw

Live streaming link

mudiana:
SOMETHING TELLS ME HE HAD ALREADY LET THEM KNOW HIS SALARY BUT HE JUST WANTS TO KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS.... ALL I CAN SAY IS EYAAAAAAA!!!

jesusjnr:
A true follower of Jesus ought to follow His example.

budaatum:
When the Spirit of the "Lord" takes the mouths of some individuals they may think what they spout are theirs, and like a certain Prophet who inserted his own words into a Koran before removing them on being reprimanded, they may insert their onw therewith, but some with eyes are able to see that which is of 'God'! Hence I bow to thee o Kun!

If you would have it, the Egyptians Sun is what has become the Son in Christianity, however is it not true according to Egyptian myth that as above so below, and that which applies to the universe (Macrocosm) applies also to the (hu)Man (Microcosm). It is this that would enable me to say that if the Sun (Christ) does not rise in my human universe, can I provide for myself? Or let me say that in another way: If consciousness (The Son, or Sun) does not arise in my psyche each day, can I come out of the dark?

Or, even better, since they are your very own words, though modified: Can one live without one's consciousness?

Perhaps it must be remembered that Christ is for some becasue the the lame walk, and for some becasue the blind see, but for some, the gospel is preached, though to enable them to to walk and see someday.

budaatum:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and he kept it to himself, and along came the prince of the morning, and he said to Eve (ever wondered why he told the woman?) "Don't mind that God! For you shall not surely die, but you shall become like us!" But whats that got to do with anything, you probably wondering.

There have been many Princes of Light, or shall I say, knowledge, or even Wisdom, and hence Christs, from the very beginning of time, but I shall go back as far as Plato's Cave, ever heard the allegory?. Well, there were these people who dwelled inside a cave and never knew there was a world outside the cave, but one of them managed to escape from the cave. Plato asked, if he came back into the cave, and told those who were inside the cave that there was a world outside, what would they do to him?

But lets take a trip through a garden, instead; make sure you look out for the Tree now! There was this Adam and Eve, children of God - not his first, for he apparently had previous children, one of whom behaved somewhat like the prodigal son, except that he never returned to his father, bad boy. Anyway, Adam lived with his first wife in the garden where they both worked for their master in return for their daily bread. One day, the prodigal son, who was not quite prodigious - an ex-angel he was (I think he had been fired or something), came back and told them they should eat the fruit of the God, the one he told them they mustn't eat, for if they did they shall surely die. And he said to Eve, specifically, "Ah, you shan't die! You'll just become like us!" And she ate, and she didn't die, and she gave Adam some to eat too, and he didn't die neither. Now I can't tell if they became like God or nothing, perhaps they never ate enough! - all I can say is they began wearing leaves, and had to plant their own food in their own garden from then on, and there was something about them suffering!

But lets fast forward a bit! For God so loved the world, that he sent his only begotten son, to feed some fruit to some human beings, those human beings who were back in the cave - if you get my drift. And he told those in the cave that they had been lied to, being made to believe the walls of the cave were the entire world; "and those who lied to you, know better", he said, "there is a better way out there, these lot just pile stuff on your head that they themselfs cannot carry!", he told them. But they said, " bulls locks! Inside this cave is the entire world!" And he insisted, and just as Plato said they would, they crucified him!

So who was this guy who's Christ was Jesus, you ask? I say some wise dude who was well learned, though some will tell you the dove done it! Ok, before any one gets a couple of two by fours and nails me to it - maybe its the truth, maybe the dove done it, at least I know it is the truth for some, but as me and he are related, being that we share the same father, unless you want to say I do not know my very own father - but I shall leave that to you, shall I - point is, our father had many children!

Many would say that God had only one son, yet even that so called one son said we are all his children, so I myself cannot understand where people get that nonsense from - though I can understand if you believe you aren't worthy! All I can say is God has about about 6 billion children, last time I heard anyone counted! But you can subtract one, yourself, if you reckon I'm lying, Child of God! Jesus the Christ is the one we know this side of the world, but still, he was one of very many!

Many of these children have had the Christ inside them ever since, and before him - remember Moses? he was one; and Joseph the dreamer was too, and so was that David who couldn't keep his fly done up, and that Solomon who had everything added unto him; indeed there have indeed been many who have brought the light for humans so they can see the walls of the cave they live in and free themselfs, and there have been others who have stayed inside the cave, not allowing the Christ in them to awaken! But I would understand if you say I lie, for I am told its like my father's farm - its the biggest farm in the entire world if you haven't worked on any others, if you have, you'd know for sure there are bigger farms out there!

budaatum:
I could attempt to post a position on this, but those who can comprehend would see right through me, so let me start with a question - its the best place to start! What is God? There! Answers on a postcard please!

I've read through, and can understand how unconvincing all those who say there is a God are. The arguments given here - and lots of better one's, have been used to attempt to convince me too, but they never worked. In fact, nothing makes one who does not believe in the existence of God disbelieve more than the lame attempts of those who would prove that there is a God! The chicken and the egg theory, as proof of God? How lame indeed! And to think one can quote a book about God to prove there is a God! What complete nonsense!

All the same, in an attempt at dishonesty, if you may, "In the beginning, God created heaven and earth"; well, he did, for those who would believe that stuff; and he placed Adam and Eve in the garden he created, saying, "Work! Produce! Eat! But do not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge"! And thats what many do, they obey! For if they do not, they believe they would go to hell, or they might realise that they are naked, and who wouldn't believe in a God who makes me not seem like a mad person, walking down the street with no clothes on? I sure bloody would believe if I were afraid of being called mad, until I think about it somewhat that is, and discover that is exactly what a master would tell a slave, "work, produce, but do not enjoy the benefits of your labour, for its no good for you!!" And we wonder why the people suffer!

In an old Egyptian text, God said to Adam and Eve, "Produce and eat of the tree of good and evil and you shall become like us"! I can't but think of what my dear brother said in the book of John, "Do you not know that ye are Gods?" I suppose, only those who would dare to eat of the fruit of the best tree in the garden would dare to be naked just like the Gods, but that fruit is indeed not for mere mortals like some to eat, hell no! They would rather be slaves, who, after all wants to be the master?

Trying to convince a person who does not believe in the God one believes in is like saying another should believe in that which oneself believes to be so but cannot show to another. So are you really asking that one believe there is a God, or that one believe you? that others should have faith in what you tell them without showing them any evidence at all? Are you really asking others to accept that you know more than they can possibly know? And who are you again? One of those who has eaten of the fruit and become so wise that you would dare to know perhaps; Like one of those who has gone to the heavens and seen the God in his kingdom and come down to tell others to merely believe in the fruit that you ate while you were there, without bringing any back hence allowing them to partake of the eating themself? Let me laugh a little. Sounds like you eating a good meal there, then trying to convince me it tastes good without allowing me to taste any of it myself, to me! Or maybe you haven't really eaten of the fruit at all, but just believe because you were told it tastes good? Interesting! and I suppose you are asking that others take your word on faith?

I find it interesting when some tell others to believe; they do not know any better and dare not seek for fear they may find, yet neither would they allow those who would seek to seek! They sound like daddy and mummy saying, "Child, mind! The fires hot!" Isn't it much better to allow me to put my fingers in the fire and find out for myself? Hell no, I suppose, after all, you are your sisters keeper, or shall I just call you my master, while I'm at it! You love me and have to protect me? Why not let me learn to burn myself, I wonder? Did you just call me "slave"?

Many who would claim that there is a God, would hark back to statements from the book, which would depend on which one they have read. I myself have been made to understand that they were written in the printing press of God all the way up in the Heavens, so why would those who haven't seen, those who are without properly functioning eyes not quote it as if it, the book, were the God? But if I may, let me harp back to my brothers words by quoting, "The Kingdom of God is within you", and unless you want to perform an operation, opening me up, showing my insides to me to prove to me that there is indeed a God living inside his kingdom which is inside of me - Oi! get away from me with that carving knife, please! - I really do not know how you going to prove to me that inside me somewhere is the kingdom of God, his home, where he lives. If I do not know that myself already! Makes one wonder why it is written "seeing they shall not see, hearing they shall not hear", don't it!

I tell you the truth, if there is indeed a God, he created not only you who believes - no! - He created also they who do not know there is God. And since he done what he done without asking you or I, he must have his reasons, I say. As I used to say, if there is a God, and he created me, then he better come down from where he is and prove to me that he exists. All I can now say is, when he did decide to bother, all I could say was, "I didn't know you existed Lord"! But I guess I'm the lucky one, that he is some kind God, I would be burning in hell otherwise!

Still, the beginning is to know what it is that you talk of! Answers on a postcard please! What is God? Thats where one really ought to begin.

Ubenedictus:
the language wasn't exactly wrong though.

I think the Greek is translated as "and bring us not to temptation".... Christians believe that nothing can happen without God's permission... Even temptation, that was supposed to be a prayer to God's Providence.

The language change is supposed to help the spiritually handicapped by presenting a dynamic equivalent instead of a word for word translation.... The old translation was faithful to the Greek but was corrected with the Latin... Frankly that's a weird choice of correction.

The curse there is on purpose, give and it shall be given to you, blessed are the merciful they shall obtain mercy.... That's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Ubenedictus:
lol.

They always heard what they say, it just needed explanation. Now the language has been clarified

dolphinife:
That means we've been mis-naming streets in Nigeria...Adeniyi Jones Avenue doesn't have any trees planted either side of the road, and yet, its called avenue....

budaatum:
Yes, I am difficult to understand, and I mean all three.

If a person does not put on the right glasses and read with the right mind, the Quran is not the Word of God for that person but just some stupid words written by a fool who deludedly imagined angels taking to him. But with the right mind one sees the hands of God writing it and it being printed on God's own printing press in heaven.

You might want to reread this, and you may want to learn about Jesusglasses here.

usermane:
If you say so. Here are his views;

Qur'an is not the word of God, but the words Jubril revealed to Muhammad.

The Qur'an is the word of God.

There is a chance the Qur'an may be distorted.