Christianity Etc › Re: Cherrypicking of christians by budaatum: 4:05pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Michellekabod2: religion was made for man and not man for religion... Except, religion was made by man! |
Sports › Re: Meet Chinyelu Asher Who Leads Jamaican Female National Team by budaatum: 3:34pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
manchy7531: Until you show me Cameroonians and Jamaicans answering Chinyelugo as their first and second names, you are not making any sense There a quite a lot of people bearing Igbo and other Nigerian names and the fact that you don't know that does not make it not true. Jamaicans specifically, love Nigerian names. They use our words too. |
Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 2:01pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: My original premise is about "menstruation being harmful and impure as argument for Allah being imperfect" then you started with the Qur'an is not the word of God, angel Gabriel revealed it to Muhammad then the Quran is word of God and so on.
I don't know what your argument is exactly. And I'm not going to go over it again because, as I said, you are incapable of understanding it! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cherrypicking of christians by budaatum: 1:56pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Michellekabod2: Buda!how are you doing? I trust great! Purposely didn't respond to your previous mention because I have gotten insight long ago on your stance and perception towards religion,thus engaging you may have been futile as we have differences. Oh, I know you deliberately ignored me, though I'm not aware what the differences are. I'm doing great thank you. You? Michellekabod2: Firstly, I observed you are subjective in regards to religion, believing each adherent has the right to interpret the holy book the way he seems it fit, and chose some rules to adhere to and to ignore......correct me if I am wrong on this please! Wrong! So let me correct you. buda is a realist. I look at the evidence instead of making things up in my head. Do tell, is it not true that believers "interpret the holy book the way" they can? Is that not the reason one should actually read the holy books oneself so as not to be led astray by another's subjective understanding? Yes, I do rely very much on my own understanding but with trust in the Lord Almighty. There is no point me relying on the understanding of another when God gave me too a brain. Michellekabod2: I do believe that there is a STANDARD way of living as a Christian, please don't mistake this as not having free will to do what want wishes to do. I believe you don't serve God on your terms but on his terms,it is not a personal thing. ..in all institutions there are code of conduct,there are orientation, and off course you can't cherrypick.... Even in the holy books you would notice different people adopt different standards and still claim they worship God. You just need read a Gospel to know that, but there is indeed a standard and it is as follows: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these.” [url= https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+12%3A30-31&version=NIV]Mark 12:30-31[/url] It sounds simple, but you'd find most do not comprehend the meaning of this simple standard. As to "terms", some adopt the term of being unworthy to approach God directly. buda, however, would go up the mountain to learn from God in case Moses and his 70, in their old age, come down from the mountain and get it all wrong! |
Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 1:37pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: Assuming it was different from todays own, does it change my premise? Your premise being what? That one can read words written about 1300 years ago and "run" then means just run now? |
Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 1:35pm On Jun 10, 2019*. Modified: 2:04pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
usermane: @budaatum, you're difficult to understand. You said earlier on the Qur'an is not the word of God. Then you said it is the word of God, now you say Muhammad heard it from Angel? Yes, I am difficult to understand, and I mean all three. If a person does not put on the right glasses and read with the right mind, the Quran is not the Word of God for that person but just some stupid words written by a fool who deludedly imagined angels taking to him. But with the right mind one sees the hands of God writing it and it being printed on God's own printing press in heaven. You might want to reread this, and you may want to learn about Jesusglasses here. |
Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 1:12pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: Can you tell us your point when you said the Quran was revealed by Angel Gabriel? My point is the Prophet got it from the Angel and not directly from God. |
Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 1:11pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: What's your point here? My point is, read some more and learn. The original language the Quran was written in is different to the one spoken today! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cherrypicking of christians by budaatum: 1:09pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Michellekabod2: if I can't pick all the cherries then I pick none! What! You don't just pick the few you need and leave the rest for somebody else? That's selfish! And greedy! Or you got an industrial cherry picker. Or your cherry farm is just tiny and has a few cherry trees! |
Sports › Re: Meet Chinyelu Asher Who Leads Jamaican Female National Team by budaatum: 1:04pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
manchy7531: If you are smart, you should know that Wikipedia can be edited and anything can be written in it.. Don't mind that yeye wiki. I'm sure anybody wrote Nigeria on AJ too?
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Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 12:49pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: The original language in which the Quran was written still exist, the problem with the translations is what my premises is all about, but then translations is not actually the problem it's the interpretations. You seriously need to go and educate yourself! The Sana'a manuscript, is one of the oldest Quranic manuscripts in existence. It was found, along with many other Quranic and non-Quranic fragments, in Yemen in 1972 during restoration of the Great Mosque of Sana'a. The manuscript is written on parchment, and comprises two layers of text (see palimpsest). The upper text conforms to the standard 'Uthmanic Quran, whereas the lower text contains many variants to the standard text. An edition of the lower text was published in 2012. A radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment containing the lower text to before 671 AD with a 99% accuracy.When asked about the experience of revelation, Muhammad reported:
"Sometimes it is revealed like the ringing of a bell. This form of inspiration is the hardest of them all and then it passes off after I have grasped what is inspired. Sometimes the Angel comes in the form of a man and talks to me and I grasp whatever he says." |
Politics › Re: Osinbanjo To Be Forced To Resign Over Trademoni Theft To Be Replaced by 5%er by budaatum: 12:35pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
Jmk9292: People dream wake up and publish Whatever they encounter, as a reliable story in Nigeria. What they dream for, you mean. |
Sports › Re: Meet Chinyelu Asher Who Leads Jamaican Female National Team by budaatum: 12:26pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
manchy7531: Ode, so it’s wikipedia you use to know ones root? If by so, why is AJ Nigerian born even though he has British on his Wikipedia? Let us know if you can work out AJ's connection to Nigeria from the following. You might understand that he is British because he was born in Britain, and Nigerian, because his parent are Nigerian.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Truly Serving God? by budaatum: 11:25am On Jun 10, 2019 |
jesusjnr: Good question. Good morning this wonderfully amazing Monday. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Unto The Homosexuals: "NEITHER DO I CONDEMN YOU, GO AND SIN NO MORE" by budaatum: 11:23am On Jun 10, 2019 |
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Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 11:14am On Jun 10, 2019 |
usermane: But Didn't you say Qur'an is not the Word of God, but the words recited to Muhammad by Jubril? It's obviously just a book to many, you and tingz being clear examples, but to some, it is indeed perceived as God's Holy True Word. The Quran has gone through so many hands before it got to you, and it is my own opinion that if satan can enter and dabaru God's Garden of Eden and go on to tempt Jesus Christ, it can most definitely easily enter a book and enter your brain and distort the Word of God. And even if the Quran hadn't been distorted, it might just be distorted in your mind so that you misunderstand. It is for this reason that one must be diligent and persevere in one's study and meditation, just as the Prophet had to do before eventually hearing Iqra. It is that diligence and perseverance that makes one see the Words as God's. Without it, they are just words in one more book. |
Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 11:00am On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: You're confusing yourself. No tingz. Be truthful and admit you are confused. When we were teaching you about paradoxes, you refused to learn. You might want to go and repeat the class. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by budaatum: 10:40am On Jun 10, 2019*. Modified: 3:09am On Aug 03, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: Meet Chinyelu Asher Who Leads Jamaican Female National Team by budaatum: 1:48am On Jun 10, 2019 |
ThePreachersSon: But we do have a Nigerian in that squad, Olufolasade Ayomide Danielle "Sade" Adamolekun (pictured below). She's fantastic, and at 18 I think she's got a bright career ahead of her.
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Sports › Re: Meet Chinyelu Asher Who Leads Jamaican Female National Team by budaatum: 1:41am On Jun 10, 2019 |
manchy7531: Meet Nigerian born Chinyelugo Asher.
She will be leading Jamaican national team against brazil tonight
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Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 1:31am On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: Wait let me get your point here.
Is it that God is perfect but the Quran is not or the Quran that's believed by Muslims to be the word of God is not word of God? God is perfect. The Quran is the Word of God |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by budaatum: 1:29am On Jun 10, 2019 |
You are daft. You must have missed what I did to a Sexy Pair of Legs I saw kissing! You are daft not to notice that it isn't me you are to convince. And you are daft if you think diverting to me would enable you to divert from providing a response to those who've asked you for one! openmine was not asking what he should do to gay people, a response to which you've dribbled again below. His request, in case you've been missing it all along, was " reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!"MuttleyLaff: Dont be daft budaatum, does the scripture say anything about you flying in aeroplanes, hmm? Does the scripture tell you about talking trains, buses and cars to work, hmmm? Does the scripture say God permits you to wear spectacles or sun shade glasses, huh?
OK, let's flip it a bit, on the other side, this is what scripture says in Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Do you notice the Leviticus 20:13b part, hmm? Are you man enough to throw the first stone, hmm? Oh no, your balls suddenly have shrivelled up at the prospect of you having stone to death your neighbour, a fellow man, human being like you now, huh? It seems like a good and right time to cherrypick parts of scripture hey?
OK, here is another one, why don't you gouge out your eyes when you sinned (i.e. Matthew 5:29) hmm? Or here is a good one, why don't you stone non-virgins (i.e. Deuteronomy 22:20-21) ehn? I bet you most posters on this thread including yourself and their missus were virgins
Ah, I've got more, plenty sef. Why do you wear clothing woven of two kinds of material (i.e. Leviticus 19:19) hey? Why do you eat catfish that has no fins and scales and other sea foods (i.e. Leviticus 9:10) erh? Why don't you give your other belongings, when you are sued in court (i.e. Matthew 5:40)
In case you havent noticed budaatum, those on the flip side scriptures, are things God permits and doesnt permit... I leave it there for you to cross the dots to see the big picture |
Islam › Re: Philosophical Questions: Where Did Theism Get It Wrong? by budaatum: 1:04am On Jun 10, 2019 |
tintingz: Then the Quran is not perfect. That's my point. Seriously! What do you think I was saying when I educated you from the angel to the Prophet who didn't even know how to write? What do you think I meant when I was explaining to you that the angel told the Prophet to fob you off when it told him what to say to you when you ask about menstruation? Oh, I get it! " God don't like people doubting him and questioning his authorities. The God whose word you claim is the word of God, and now say is " not perfect"! If the angel had told the Prophet, a trader in the desert, what we know about menstruation today would the Prophet have been able to write anything better than we read in the Quran? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by budaatum: 12:51am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: You do know what the subject title of this thread is, I believe, so desist from encouraging this person from deviating and/or derailing the topic. Your juvenility is boundless! In case you have not noticed, the question to you was "What does scripture say God permits? It's rather late for a deconstruction on page 9 wouldn't you say? I guess this might be a day when brain is on leave. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Too Many British Prime Minister Candidates Admit To Smoking Cocaine by budaatum: 12:45am On Jun 10, 2019 |
We're all in it together, as they say. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cherrypicking of christians by budaatum: 12:39am On Jun 10, 2019 |
Michellekabod2: People should cherrypick,Christian's should not I should not cherrypick from the Bible but must eat the whole thing in its entirety all the time? |
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Africans In Asia(sad) by budaatum: 12:38am On Jun 10, 2019 |
jabor4Naija: Yes we are being tribalistic against ourselves but when u travel out of the country to live and work in some places, u will be humilated cos of d color of your skin. I have not personally been humiliated because of the colour of my skin. In fact, the first time the colour of my skin was noticed was when I arrived in Nigeria - you'd know what Nigerians are like with making up nicknames based on the colour of skin. What I have found working abroad is that the quality of my brain and my ability to reason overcomes any prejudice anyone might have because of the colour of my skin. But maybe we worked in different parts of the world. Which country have you travelled to live and work and been humiliated because of the colour of your skin? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cherrypicking of christians by budaatum: 12:29am On Jun 10, 2019 |
Michellekabod2: Christians cherrypick alot! Do you expect people not to cherrypick? How can we not? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by budaatum: 12:26am On Jun 10, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by budaatum: 12:24am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine: Mr MuttleyLaff,once again,I challenge you to reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits,tolerates and love homosexual acts! No stories! no evasion! no plenty talk! Got to say, I admire the care with which you chose your words. You have nobly insisted on ' scripture', and " acts", both which stand insurmountable to God's permission, it would seem. Muttley! I promised to tell and I'm telling you now. Stop with the eggshells or shift! |
Family › Re: How Could We Have Been This Gullible? by budaatum: 12:12am On Jun 10, 2019 |
Bunny19: And this is how they will end this thread with this their yeye religious banters..... Bunch of mediocres  I do beg your pardon. Just that I have not seen any contribution to the op from you not to talk of a "mediocre" one which I'm certain will educate me out of my mediocrity and yeyeness once presented. So do present it so the thread don't end please. I have copied the op to ease your consideration and gleefully await your exceptional contribution. The question was: How Could We Have Been This Gullible?shadeyinka: I remembered a time not too far from now when the average Nigerian believed these stories
1. How Oyelusi (the notorious armed robber of the 70s) drove his car from Ibadan to Lagos with Reverse Gear while being pursued by the Police.
2. How India was banned from playing international football because they were using Indian Juju (and the ball will turn itself into a lion before the goal keeper)
3. How Thunder Balogun fired a shot with his left leg and the ball passed through the stomach of the best goalie in the world then killing him instantly.. And how he vowed never to play football again.
4. I bet you remember how the acrobatic riders (those who ride before the motorcade of the president) are the ones who lead in battles with no single gun or weapon.
5. Sorry, I can't remember the name of this armed robber who was to be executed by the firing squad. It was said that after volleys upon volleys of bullet was expended on him and he refused to die. He had to pity the solders by telling them the secret of his Juju before one bullet was fired to kill him.
And many more. Sorry, if you are an indomie generation you wouldn't know about these.
You can add yours if you remember any! |
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Africans In Asia(sad) by budaatum: 10:00pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
jabor4Naija: Racism is not just an asian thing but a general problem When Nigerians are abusing each other, "Afonja, Fulani and Ipobs", they are just being tribalist I suppose and in ignorance cannot possibly understand that this is just another form of racism! |