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tintingz:
During Muhammad era, the Quran was taken as it was written, today some Muslims are now ashamed of some Quran passage, the scientific errors and many more, they had to start interpreting the Quran to suit modern reasoning especially when they use Science to justify the Quran claims. When science discover something Muslims will quickly find a way to hijack it and twist it to fit in the Qur'an.

CodeTemplar:
hunger after a God with results. Look at our political system today. Filled with idol worshippers and we are bad for it.

Dagger111:
Russian President Vladimir Putin hits Africa Again!

"Africa will never be independent, Africans believe in Europeans, Americans, and Chinese more than themselves. They don't trust themselves at all, African technocrats/Engineers aren't given the platform to practice what they studied instead they hire Chinese to construct roads for themselves.

helinues:
Power is not given but taken.

If SE have enough muscles, let them join the race..

Enough of online talk

correctguy101:
The ears and eyes will forever not get full, not even the belly
Any feeling of 'satiation' is but a passing dream.

I'm always hungry,,,,,,

Greetings buda

budaatum:
Electrical Tomatoes

The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.

"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?

Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market, government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.

Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!

Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid, of course, but somehow, I just can't imagine you'd be either.

So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?

Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing. Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!

Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!

When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!

Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap!

tintingz:
If a consensus agreement can be archived on the Quran interpretations by all Muslims in the world, that would be ideal but since it is not archived and there are lots of diversity and conflicts in the Muslim world then the Quran should be left as it was written. When "run is run then run is run" no sugar-coating no making some allegory and metaphor out of it, no need of some scholars commentary or It originality would diminish which is the case today. If Allah had said Muslims can interpret the Quran as they want that would be another case.

It's either a Muslims accept the Quran horrible texts, absurdity, cruelty as it was written or they abandon it completely or better still cherry pick the ones that suit them and agree the Quran is not perfect and move on( I think this is what usermane did).

shadeyinka:
1. And I learnt this by questioning God who told me that God had faith

You question God and God told you that He had FAITH?
It doesn't make sense to me

shadeyinka:
2. but tested it by exercising that faith in "Let there be light", and when light was produced as a fruit of that test it was found to be good faith

Did God have to test his FAITH?

Braket:
About the water, most times these guys don't carry along enough water too.
But in big buildings, there's always a water outlet specifically made for fire fighters so that they don't runout of water

shadeyinka:
I think I agree with with you in the sense that God doesn't need our worship.
And Christian service is defined by
1. Loving God and Man
2. Using your gifts and talents to further the kingdom of God on earth (building children of God)
3. Delivering others from the imprisonment of satan.

shadeyinka:
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I did modify the text. But truly I do not understand the @ bolded

shadeyinka:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the @bolded?

usermane:
As far as Qur'an is concerned, it is a self explained book. Ideally, every man is his own interpreter of the Qur'an. No clergy.

correctguy101:
This vaxx sef, just ignore some kinda comments na.. ...

LoJ:
Aether is sometimes described as empty space, something close to what astro physicians call dark matter.

I personally do not agree. I believe aether surrounds empty space without being the space indeed.

Aether in my perspective is a continuous flow of pure energy from the original singularity to the vast cosmos. In a way very similar to the continous flow of light and heat from the sun to the whole solar system which makes life possible, or the continuous flow of blood /air in the human body via the blood / breathing circuits. As above so below, as within so without.

budaatum:
Here's something about Ancient Isis, Osiris, and Horus.

shadeyinka:
I know of a fact that the Spiritual Realm is Superimposed on the Physical realm. Both of these two realms operate on Different rules and laws.

I have tasted both sides to conclude that those who feel that anything that cannot be explained by the physical laws are mere figments of imagination are just simply myopic. There is nothing that can be done by anyone to help them.

The ancients were not scientifically sophisticated but were more Spiritually superior to us in the contemporary world. We now are scientifically advanced but correspondingly Spiritually blind and ignorant!

Any faith that cannot stand questioning is not worth a thing. And it is stupidity to believe a thing that doesn't make logical sense at least to yourself

franchasng:
...did they also revoke the license of Mohammed Indimi Buhari's in-law, oh I forgot Buhari is the hero of Yoruba youths who do not read or know history but are more focused on hating Igbos who has done them no bad

ladyF:
Interesting

shadeyinka:
I asked about your own theory, not mine.

FYI, I believe very strongly in that which you despise: The reason is obvious though: it's about scope of Knowledge and understanding.

And FYI, God didn't create the heavens and the earth in seven days! That's a wrong conception
AND
There was a Big bang: This is from science! But it doesn't negate the Scriptures as per creation.

Jesus conception from a virgin: you and I do not have a scientific evidence and we can't even get it.

HenryDion:
Awesome. I love your objective response. I'm open-minded, ready to let go of my atheistic stance the moment I come across a substantial evidence of Gods existence. Till then!

johnkay1:
Okay o

Buhari should do the follow up because he has the instruments of Government in his hands. What can we do than to shout, but he can monitor them to make sure they all make judicious use of the money.

budaatum:
Those who write as intelligently as this should not spit on........

AngelicBeing:

shadeyinka:
Do you have an alternate theory that works?

I am sure you didn't think we'll about this before writing this post!

shadeyinka:
I still wonder why we didn't ask enough Questions

In the days when internet was still a dream

ochibuogwu5:
Ok, I got ur message of starting a thread however, I believe this thread is for Christians hence *my write-ups here is in alignment with this thread* and will greatly uplift the faith of any Christian here hence I hope to keep them *flowing as the Holy Spirit directs*
Everyone is also free to bring up *regular discussions on any topic* and I also make my contributions here *as long as the Holy Spirit directs me*
Great Grace!!!

ochibuogwu5:
Let us *review* our expectations from GOD,
does it agree with DIVINE-WILL
or Is it our *selfish-expectations* which we have *spiritualized*?

Father, increase within us, *your grace/life* for *sincere-discernment* of your will and *our willing submission to it* in Jesus Name. Amen.

EmperorHarry:
I'm gonna use an device that's relatable to answer this question.This reply is in no way an attestation of my hypothesis.
If we consider the iPhone from the first to the current iPhone you'd realise that as technology advances,the phones evolve with upgrades on functions,capacity and appearance.The similarities between phones within a particular range is easily recognizable but there's a huge gap between the first and the current iPhone in terms of appearance,capacity and functions.Let's say the human race is no longer on earth and some alien life with the idea of evolution(largely similar to ours) arrive and settle on earth as their new home. They begin to study these devices.They find the iPhone 1 and the iPhone 7.The similarities are vague but it's somewhat evident they're related.The iPhone 3 is then discovered and so on.They start creating evolution theories just like we've done.The iPhone 0(hypothetical) would be most similar to one of the more recent models but not too different from the first models.The first models are only foundations for achieving a more perfect model.

The all intelligent designer I'm proposing isn't all knowing if you read my post.It's also not one being and isn't the omnipresent, omniscient,omnipotent and benevolent being you're familiar with.The ID has flaws and limits.The viruses and bacteria could just be flaws that could be created by a different source or a glitch.

Consciousness to me is a gift and a curse(temporarily).The fact that the universe would exist with or without human conscious is interesting. There are innate qualities that are evident in all of nature that separates the conciousness from the physical being.The mind is largely dependent on the body. An ID doesn't have to be the conventional view of god you are familiar with.I also never stated it's a proof,quite frankly it could just be garbage but I feel it would help shape my understanding on certain things.Isn't that what hypotheses are all about?
Now this is one of the saddest things modern day humans including me do.We tend to look at how much we've achieved and condescendingly judge or dismiss much older beliefs cos we feel they were largely limited in knowledge about nature and other phenomenons which is true to an extent but we fail to realise we have no real evidence of what happened or reason why they did what they did.We can only make assumptions which may or may not be true. They were quite advanced than one would assume them to be.They laid the foundation for who we are and what we're achieving today so it would bad judgement to just discard an account about something that has not been proved or disproved currently cos they might just be right.