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kristlike:
You can always make your contribution without insulting someone particularly.
Thanks for your input though..

Of course, one can. Either ways, readers get to decide how they take what one writes. It's a public forum after all.

Kanu is coming! We are very afraid!

Mystiquefia:
If I were the president, I for done crash this one tey tey.

It just goes to show what a tolerant man my bubu is.

If na Obasanjo de der im go fit open im smelly mouth like dis!? Even Jonathan time sef, I guess dem go don deposit plenty ghana-must-go gi am, im for don change tune quick time!

Useless nonentity looking for relevance, if you asked me!

Temple1288:
Bro, the weed I'm currently taking no dey high person.. Refer me to yours

Useless cheese kush. I too want my money back!

1 milion jobs in a state with a population of 2,833,999!

I guess he will employ them from other states. Impressive. I can abandon my plans to migrate to that yeye cold Canada. I'm migrating to Abia State instead!

ivandragon:
after saying I can't add 2+2?

lol...


keep playing the victim card...

I actually asked you to admit it, but what was your response again?

I'm no victim of anything grandpa. I just got your time today and the data mummy and daddy bought me.

ivandragon:
noted kiddo...

This, by the way, is the first kind word you have said to me!

I love you grandpa.

ivandragon:
I let the person have the last say, I think that is fair & proper

I, on the other hand, do not do "fair, nor insult others, but when insulted I throw pearls at insulters and believe me when I say I never run out of pearls because, my cup runneth over, with pearls.

ivandragon:
why don't you let the 'house' know that you were the one that made an insulting comment on my mention when I didn't even refer to you or anyone else for that matter?

You don't need to refer to anyone in particular when you comment on a public forum, and a link to the conversation is in my post for people to see for themselves and make up their own minds grandpa.

Lifestone:
While I do agree that individuals should take responsibility, you will agree with me that it's only individuals that have been prepared that can reason the way you have.
Today we still have millions of children out of school, children malnutrition is still pervalent ( this leads to staunted growth and inhibit mental development & intellect), we still surfer high mortality from diseases that have been completely eradicated in other climes.Our human dignity suffered etc.

Prepared? This is generational, surely! If I myself were not prepared, surely at some point I ought to take responsibility for preparing myself! And if perchance, it is too late for me, I should invest in preparing the fruit of my loins least the curse that afflicts me be passed by me to my offspring and future generations.

I can safely assure you that no leader cares about me as much as I should for myself. And I don't see any of them being my messiah and carrying my cross for me.

ivandragon:
lol...

buda this buda that... whose afraid of the little buda?


you do not have the monopoly of insults kiddo. you get what you receive... keeping following...

Afraid of 12 year old buda?

No one, I hope. Especially not you, grandpa, and God forbid I insult your grey hair!

Of course it is "right and appropriate for a wise and intelligent person to engage in a lengthy argument discussion with others", especially here on a public forum. Note that I cancelled your "argument" though, and replaced it with what "wise and intelligent" people do.

It's a public forum see, so though one discusses with just one other, many others will see one's pearls and learn. And besides, unless one desires to remain stupid and ignorant oneself and fails to consider what oneself is arguing against, one would learn if one uses one's brain while discussing too.

An example is the conversation 12 year old buda is having with my supposedly "wise and intelligent" greyhaired grandpa ivandragon here. Another is the one buda had with "wise and intelligent" Shepherd00 here.

People are not stupid, see. While one discusses, wisely and intelligently, one is scattering one's immensely valuable pearly seeds and letting them fall where they may because the "wise and intelligent" know some will fall along the path and the birds will eat and be full, and some will fall on rocky ground with little soil and be scorched in the sun and die rootless, and some will fall into good soil and grow and increase and produce grain yielding fruit thirtyfold and sixtyfold and a hundredfold and a thousandfold even.

If you are indeed "wise and intelligent", it's not as if your pearls can be trampled on. And if pigs eat your pearls it is pigs who will choke, so you just make sure your seeds are the pearly "wise and intelligent" type and worry not about the quality of the soil they fall on. You'd never really know which soil is which till you scatter your "wise and intelligent" pearly seeds on them to see if they grow, or not.

phantom24:
ANYBODY THAT IS NOT MAKING PROGRESS IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE SHOULD'T BE ALLOWED TO LEAD A NATION.

A person who does not steal your nation's wealth should not lead your nation? I know understand why they say you get the leaders you deserve!

It's obvious my bubu is making progress however. He today got sworn in as the President of the Federal Republic of your nation Nigeria, in case you aren't aware!

Lifestone:
It's the responsibility of our Leaders to bring this out.

I don't agree. I think it is mine and every individuals' responsibility to bring this out. And we can start by curing ourselves of our individual ignorance.

We are the leaders. We just don't realise it yet, which is why we are sheep.

ivandragon:
poor morals...


you left the chap spewing ethnic hate. shows you have a bent moral compass...

Are you trying to whatabout me grandpa?

You should know by now that no one made buda the morals or ethics police on a public forum, and my compass is only directed at you grandpa, who insulted buda!

hayoholla:
Very well said. Though, I think the religion being practiced today has been kind of watered down, hijacked by whoever or whatever organisation that wish to profit from it and lastly, it has being severely stripped of it scientific side and made into mere work of literature stoically followed by overly religious junkies.

No, not "stripped of its scientific side", nor "watered down" unless you are measuring by religion as predominantly practised in Nigeria which is indeed watered down. And if you are giving way too much credit to "primitive giant 'science'" except where it is due. I hope you note the contradiction. Though "giants", one does not need to keep the boat after one has crossed the river, which is what one is doing by holding on to ancient 'scientific' beliefs.

It's the inverse, actually, of stripped down. We've built so much on those shoulders that what we've built bears almost no resemblance to the shoulders we've built on. That's why (Nigerian) religionists "junkies" are trying to drag us back into the dark ages, while the non-religionists "junkies" amongst us here too try to drag us into the light of modern existence without really knowing where they drag us to. And we, most of us at least, are in the middle believing or disbelieving and constantly ripping strips off each other unable to square the circle.

It's not uncommon for theists to equate science and modern discovery with "For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened.” Yet, many expect to "be fruitful and rule over" without the open 'eyes' of science and despite all the evidence to the contrary!

I guess it's complex, and to be honest, I doubt I have the words yet to fully express what I understand, but Surah Ar-Rum has it that "And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your languages and your colors. Indeed in that are signs for those of knowledge", and [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+27%3A17&version=NIV]Proverbs[/url] has it that "As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another", so I am very hopeful that powerful people are being raised up here. Insha Allah Aleluya amen.

Damn man, do you make [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1%3A41-44&version=NIV]hearts leap[/url] johnydon22! You are indeed most blessedly amongst us! Thank you again for a wonderfully thought provoking thread as is usual of you!

hayoholla:
Johnnydon, I think in my own view, we should ask which started first, religion or science?

Actually, Genesis 1 was primitive humans' 'scientific attempt' to explain what they observed with their senses, which is what science is. We today, standing on the shoulders of those early primitive giant 'scientists', are just way too arrogant (or most likely too stupid) to understand what they began and clearly informed us to keep on doing.

Or would you like to argue that "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground" is not very clear instruction to do science and be blessed?

Shepherd00:
Like I said, I'm talking Christianity here, if you want both of us to talk, we may talk New Age. But, I won't waste my time talking to someone who does not believe in Jesus or the Word of God.

"Believe", and not, "do", like you? Of course you will not "waste your time" as you call it. Darkness, after all, does not stand a [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1%3A1-5&version=NIV]chance[/url] where there is light.

Fortunately, I don't have your problem because Jesus Christ fuels my ability to make you see light shines instead of just believing light shines like you do.

Shepherd00:
Then why are still trying to have me have a discussion with you?

I don't really care if you "have a discussion with" me or not, Shepherd. You're after all not the only reader of what I write.

My duty is to cast my immensely valuable seeds and let them fall where they may. Unlike you who believes, I know and understand that some will fall along the path and the birds will eat and be full, and some will fall on rocky ground with little soil and be scorched in the sun and die rootless, and some will fall into good soil and grow up and increase and produce grain yielding fruit thirtyfold and sixtyfold and a hundredfold and a thousandfold even.

Those who have ears to hear and eyes to see will hear and they will see, Shepherd.

googi:
We have enough talented Nigerians to innovate, copy, steal intellectual properties and compete like Japan, Russia and China.

But London School of Economics, Harvard, Toronto, McGill trained graduates that our youth worship and are daily looking up to will not let us.

They don't exactly "let" China either. But the smart Chinese don't look up to them or worship them neither. They place much value in their selves instead and refuse to worship foreign "gods" and steal and copy "god's" food instead.

I can't wait till we Nigerians grow up and value ourselves too. Someday, I hope, soon.

ivandragon:
lol...


you will be the one to get tired.

12 year old get tired before grey haired grandpa gets tired? You funny. And obviously don't see me running round your tired old squiggly knees.

I'll let mummy and daddy know grandpa needs new glasses so you can see. Maybe they'll let me send you the money in my piggy bank.

Don't mind them! I'm absolutely certain the house he declared got pregnant and gave birth to numerous baby houselets!

Did you miss the bit that said “The forms, as signed by the President and sworn to before a Judge of Abuja High Court, showed no significant changes in assets as declared in 2015 by him.

“There are no new houses, no new bank accounts at home and abroad and there are no new shares acquired.

Or don't you just understand?

We should be "deciding" on Bobrisky? The Bobrisky who just by mentioning her name puts money in his pocket?

People sure are very funny indeed or dem belle don full finish!

You did not check first if it's true, you are asking why?

Chai! E pain me. But 4 years go soon up. I shall patiently wait.

Ọmọ a se bẹ fun ẹ
Your child will do likewise to you.

To which I respond:

Ti ọmọ mi ko ba se bẹ fun mi, ọmọ ale ni!
If my child does not do likewise to me that child is a bastard and I will take it to the bottom of the river and bash it's stupid head in!

It always works. Her anger dissipates and we laugh.

The pomp and ceremony of Muhammadu Buhari's inauguration will not mask the huge challenges the 76-year-old Nigerian president faces during his second term in office - in particular the booming business of kidnapping for ransom.

Even one of the president's relations - a traditional ruler in Daura in northern Nigeria - is currently being held after he was seized from outside his house earlier this month by gunmen.

In March, a well-known Muslim cleric in Kano, who campaigned for Mr Buhari ahead of his re-election, was held for 12 days by kidnappers demanding $833,000 (£657,000) for his release.

What started as a money-making scheme about 15 years ago in the southern Niger Delta with the kidnapping of oil workers has mushroomed across the country. Syndicates have also been taking a leaf out of Boko Haram's books by using the tactics of the Islamist militants to raid whole communities on motorcycles, making off with their leaders.

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NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Why sweep when u have a visitor?

Daalụ nke ukwuu

In my part of the world (likely just in my home, and note, I have Google translate!), you would even be insulting the visitor by slyly informing them they are unwelcome! And if I be man, I will tell my mother off!

Funny though. My ma would call her first born son to come and cook amala and ẹfọ riro for the in-laws when they come to ask for her daughters' hands in marriage just so she can say to her future son-in-law and family, "I hope you enjoyed the food that my first born and elder brother of my daughter you want to marry cooked. My daughter is not going to be a slave in your house, so keep your dowry"!

She fortunately has 4 daughters, all married.

paxonel:
But let's reason it, is there any other thing that can nourish the physical body other than food?
I'm just trying to understand you.

Yes, paxonel, "there any other things that can nourish the physical body other than food". Eating a balanced diet, is one, and not just sticking one's head in sand reading one single book.

After all, "by every word that God spoke", says the word, and how would you know whether God spoke it or not if you "stick to our own different views" and have not bothered to read their's yourself?

johnydon22:
I only disagree that without religion, what do we live for? Yea, a lot actually, we live for a lot without religion.

In fact, the only people who "live for religion" are terrorists and suicide bombers and those constantly wailing against their enemies.

Anyone who lives for religion is behaving like the Priest and the Levite whom Christ said "don't be like", and committing the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A33-46&version=KJV]sin[/url] of the goats on the left, or ye would be doing unto the least of these here whom ye see and "it would be done unto Me".