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Shepherd00:
Pls try.

It's hard and I am weak, which is why I beg him please.

gensteejay:
Some silly comments and arguments are better ignored. No time for cyclical arguments.

You are not forced to engage gensteejay. Just ignore us fools and go find something better to do.

LordReed:
As for definitions, it remains imperative each god claimant defines the god they claim exists because it happens that the claims have as much difference as the people who make the claims.

Yet, defining God, is just about an impossibly thing to do since we all grab on to tiny bits of the elephant we are being asked to define. There is after all a reason why it is written that:

4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

A rule you, my Lord, are asking one to break when you ask one to define God, which is, make an image of God for you my Lord to see, to which my appropriate response would be, "Get behind me my Lord!! You are a dangerous trap to me. You are seeing things merely from a human point of view and not from God’s.”

LordReed:
How can you disagree with a question asking you for clarification?

Maybe he just wants to be agreed with when he is disagreed with.

Read my response when he said "All these questions will complicate things".

LoJ:
I admire him to an extent of course, but not particularly, which is what I said initially. And I did not lie.

"Particularly", lol. Or rather, LoJ !

Abini2012:
Interview was conversational. Why do I need NI? What do I do in my country? How long will I be in the UK? Etc.. The lady filled some forms after asking some personal questions, asked me to cross check the answers and sign. Then gave me a letter to show I've applied for NI, she said that will suffice in my application for work pending when the NINO will be out (approx. 8 weeks).

Waka about

You need a National Insurance Number so that your tax and NI contributions (the latter which I think you can claim back if you leave the country), can properly be recorded in your name.

Read about it here.

Abini2012:
Put the quantity you want in a pot, pour in water just to loosen it, like preparing Pap. Place the pot on fire and continue to stir till it's done and gets to the consistency you like. You might need to keep adding small water while stirring on fire. ( I use hot water at this stage)
When it's done (for the brand I bought), it turns to butter yellow. The one my friend in lag served me was dark brown like amala.

Pls do try it. It's very lovely and gluten free

I definitely will. Thank you.

usermane:
Ijma and hadith specifically forbid salat till postpartum bleeding subsides, usually after 40 days.

Does that not show you the wiseness and mercifulness of the Almighty Allah who is willing to sacrifice salat for a whole 40 days for your health and that of your newborn baby whom Allah appears to value way more than your five times a day salat?

LoJ:
I do not particularly admire him, no. But that quote has power in it.

I think you lie! I think you do not only admire him, I think you regard and respect him immensely, or you would not have bothered reading what he wrote.

titigenius:
i remember when i first read romans 8 and got to verse 28 through to the last verse, confusion was my name. Here's what i've come to discover. Paul said it is those whom God foreknows(knowing someone before meeting them or in this case before they are born) he has predestined to be changed into the person of Jesus Christ and without a doubt, that spells "being born again" which is key to entering the kingdom of God(heaven). The words of God to jeremiah and the psalmist song of God's knowledge of him in his mother's womb and even having a book containing the list of his parts is clear indicator that God knows all before they are even born. God has destined for all men to make heaven but before this redirection of the road of destiny we must know that from the begining man was destined(God's path) by God to be in fellowship with him but adam chose a different path for himself and thereby setting all his descendants on the same road. sorry i can't write much

God blessed you.

Saul, was on the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+9%3A3-9&version=KJV]way to Damascus[/url] with the intention of persecuting the people of God, and God just grabbed him against his, Saul's' will and made him Paul. You might therefore see that as far as Paul was concerned, he had no choice in the matter, no freewill so to speak, it appearing as if God had decided what to do with him when he was in the womb despite his disbelief and his freewill.

Imagine now that buda decides, having had the benefit of reading of Saul's experience, freewilly travels to Damascus to persecute the people of God, and it is not yet the time assigned when buda was in the womb for a light from heaven to flash around buda, how many times will buda travel to Damascus before buda decides not to wait for a light to flash from heaven so that buda might see?

I tell you the truth, at least as far as I understand it, the longer buda waits to apply freewill and flash a light from heaven inside buda's own eyes while on the way to Damascus and hear the words "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting", the longer will buda burn in the most hottest part of hell. Because, nobody will be telling buda to, "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do", unless buda, with buda's freewill - and the Grace of God that Jesus Christ died so in his blood is Scripture written to point buda to Saul's experience so buda knows to flash a light with buda's freewill in buda's own stupid head, by buda's self, with the assistance of the Holy Spirit of course, dare I say!

May we not be continously travelling to Damascus waiting for the time assigned when we were in our mother's womb for the light to flash from heaven between our eyes before we decide with our own freewill to flash the light from heaven between our own eyes by ourselves, with the assistance of the Messiah Jesus Christ.

In Jesus name pray I.

Maximus69:
We must obey Jesus 100% before God takes us in as TRUE believers in the name of his only begotten son!

I agree. Yet, me, being one ordinary human being, who never even scored 100% in a common school exam, knows that I would never ever score 100% in a Jesus exam, and so is my salvation dependent on the Grace of God who loves the wretched failure me despite all my hard work.

Maximus69:
That is the WORK of FAITH, not just doing good like every other worshipers of idols would EASILY do!

Thank you Max. Like almost everything to do with God, it is not simple. The rich man was going about thinking his public good doing was his salvation, and that was his error. Observe the pagan worshipping Samaritan who just did the good and whom Christ said "Go and do likewise". The lesson? Do not your good deeds to be seen and glorified by humans, but to the glory of the Lord in Heaven. For if one takes no care of the poor, what Kingdom has one preached to the least of these whom one sees?

It is for this reason that I wrote this piece which is about diligently doing the work of studying Scripture.

Please, that plantain fufu good? How dem de cook am make me too try am pls.

Abini2012:
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But I dey run cross o, can never trust this oyibo people

What! Even at zebra crossing where there is no light, they will stop now. Abi you nefa test dem?

usermane:
I was confused myself when I read budaatum, because all believers in the Qur'an agree it is the literal speech of God. But I decide to let him off the hook because these days I find myself reconsidering a lot.

I do not "believe" things, I do my research. And my research on the matter brings me to conclude that the Prophet, who initially could not write, wrote down, on camel bones, what it is claimed he received from God through an Angel called Gabriel who told it to him. And what we read now, and which some call the "literal word of God", is what was transposed from the camel bones on which they were first written.

Please do not let buda of a hook! If buda lies, hang buda! Or correct buda so buda stops lying!


Ref: Disbelieve and Know!

Shepherd00:
But Muttleylaff insists that that verse is about sexual orgies and not homosexuality.

As to Muttley verses on the topic, I too await his presentation, though my eyes can not dig though the junk he surrounds his presentations with.

Shepherd00:
But, we will begin to have problems when they try to push it to my face and make it seem like it's alright, I shd accept their Uncleanliness because it's godly.

This is the only bit that interests me, Shepherd.

Even if a good desirable opposite gender to me person pushes their sexual organs in my face, I will cut it off too, not to talk of an opposite gendered person. I will do so because I would find it disrespectful to my person. I also disapprove of sex between any genders done where 'horses are to be scared' (it's an expression that means "no fuqing in public" ).

But if a person is fighting for acceptance in society, as in, the right not to be ostracized and to not be discriminated against (stoned, so to speak), because of their sexual preferences which they do where horses are not scared, I will fight on their behalf because I have seen the immense harm done by (stoning) discriminating and ostracizing against people just because of whom they fuq, provided the fuqers are consenting adults. And because, more importantly, I understand that discriminating against people and ostracising (stoning) them is very unGodly of me since it's very impossible that stone throwing me could possibly be so sinless. And besides, what the fuq am I doing assuming to be sitting on the right hand of God judging others? Should buda not know buda's place?

Note this hypocrisy of mine. If we were talking about thieves or looters, it is buda's place to will sit on the right hand of God and judge and stone the fuqers because thieving and looting affects us all, while my opinion is, it is only the pokers poker that stinks if stuck in poo, and in no way could they be sticking it in mine unless they rape me which is a crime.


Incidentally, as I sit writing this, BBC Radio 4 is running a program described as:

What’s it like to come out to your parents? How do you prepare? What if it all goes wrong? Tina speaks to Amelia Abraham, author of “Queer Intentions,’ her step-mum Tessa and YouTuber Riyadh Khalaf, author Yay! You’re Gay! Now What?

Intersectionality at 30. In 1989 Kimberlé Crenshaw Professor of Law at Columbia University and UCLA coined the term Intersectionality. It recognises that race and gender discrimination can work together simultaneously, along with other factors like class, disability, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age, religion, and more. Kimberlé Crenshaw joins Tina Daheley with Phyll Opoku-Gyimah, Head of Equalities and Learning at Public and Commercial Services Union and Co-founder of UK Black Pride to explain how the term has developed, how it has been misunderstood and why it’s important.

Sarah Mullally was installed as the Bishop of London one year ago making her the Church of England’s most senior woman and the first female Bishop of London. Before being ordained she was UK Chief Nursing Officer having spent the early years of her career as a nurse specialising in cancer care. She talks about her work serving more than 400 London parishes and her new role as Dean of Her Majesty’s Chapels Royal.

Sarah Ladip Manyika's debut novel In Dependence is a set text in the US and Zimbabwe and has sold over three million copies. It's a story of love and friendship over four decades and has been re-released on the tenth anniversary of its publication. Sarah speaks to Tina about the enduring appeal of her novel.

The sad thing is you put so much irrelevant stuff in your writing that it hurts my eyes. Perhaps write two responses. One where you address the points in which please call my attention as I am very interested in your defense of homosexuals and disagree with the constant gay bashers as bashing is very unJesusy in my opinion; and another where you do your tirade against people which please don't mention me in!

I've struck out what's not worth reading in case my opinion might count with you. Note the tirade might have made me strike out relevant points just as the tirade makes me miss to understand those points. And seriously, I can't say you answered any of Shepherd's questions, though I'll let Shepherd be the judge of that.

MuttleyLaff:
[s]My response to this sincere yet sincerely wrong brother, is that, he who laughs the last, laughs the best and laughiest.
When people, the likes jesusjnr, Shepherd00 etcetera doubt your gift, grace and abilities, you get the best and laughiest laugh, watching them eat their words

jesusjnr, you've always been dodging me and avoiding each questions I ask you because you know you'll be proven to be wrong, but alas, you seem to have miraculously found your voice with me today. Hakuna matata. I am just "Double Dutch" (i.e. jump rope skipping) biding my time. [/s]

[s]jesusjnr, or TV01, Shepherd00 and the likes, [/s]same sex attraction and/or relationship couples will not affect a heterosexual family in any way. Everyone agrees that heterosexuality is the norm and the fact, that about 95% of the human race is heterosexual, but the thing is, the increasing shift in same sex attraction and/or same sex relationship couples popularity, is due to eliminating ignorance, and realisation that homosexuality is normal, it's not a sin and there is no law, Leviciticus or not, against it. It is a natural part of life, for a selected few, of which, Jesus, the bible testifies this and science or nature too backs this up.

[s]Now Shepherd00 because of his unstudied opinions, will be saying and asking questions, like:
"Everything that God created in His Universe He has a purpose for it to serve. And, everything was created with its own design so that it would continue to exist on its own.

So, What is the Purpose of Homosexuality to Humanity and the Universe?

Is homosexuality God's idea?[/s]

To what end?

I mean, If you intend to do something, there must be a purpose of doing it, a means of doing it, and there must also be a result after doing it.

God intended to create the world and for people to fill it, he created a man and a woman and gave them sex organs to enable them perform that service. And they did, today humans continue to reproduce each other for posterity sake.

But, you say it's okay for Men to marry men, my question is Why?

Pls don't tell me the vocations homosexual people are involved in, I am talking about the ACT of Homosexuality. What is its usefulness?"

Homosexuality is a God idea. It is the idea of the Omnicompetent, all-knowing, all-wise, all-seeing God, that is better and greater than everyone of us.

The ACT of Homosexuality, its usefulness, Shepherd00, is love, to love, be loved back and then be creative and/or serve. [s]I will address you more and in detail Shepherd00 when I do my proper response as promised, so please stop jumping the gun and spamming the forum with your idée fixe threads.
cc Baddiezz, Ranchhoddas, ThothHermes, VBCampaign, Michellekabod2, elated177, Agrogbeide, budaatum[/s]

These bloggers self. Apparently there's a movie. In two parts.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLocbVYhy4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zr04RKvkAU

If anybody watches let me know if its the same Oba.

chibaby1985:
That's what the white man wants you to believe

I know. It's not of course that I see for myself that the Nigerian who you say created the internet forgot to invent it in Nigeria. The white man entered inside my head and put the almost 100Gb that I've used so far this month in there.

panafrican:
It is their language, you use it to make profit, you should pay something in return. No free stuff !

Tell me about it. Somebody should explain to those English people that kingdoms are no more measured by land alone but by the number of people who speak their language! After all, if the whole world spoke Nigerianese we must call them Nigerians.

Though, let no one tell America o, or they might decide their own kingdom would be all the countries that invest in the dollar and then everywhere including China and the whole of Africa and the Middle East will be Dollarese, or Dulards, for short!

tintingz:
You spoil the show with that statement.

Oga, I've been to the mountain before, if you have a special mountain kindly refer me to that mountain.

You're sounding like a person who did not study for an exam and arrived at the exam hall begging me to let you copy the work that I produced from my own study as if when you fail I will be failed too.

Sorry. I don’t [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A1-13&version=NIV]owe[/url] you.

We shall see. Meanwhile, from a link in yours that said "unsustainable debt" referring to China loans to Africa:

This rapid growth in trade and project financing has served both Africa and China well. For Africa, trade has boosted economic development in many countries, and the financing of infrastructure projects, for which little concessional financing is available, has helped address crucial bottlenecks to industrial development and structural transformation.
Reassessing Africa’s global partnerships

tintingz:
You were an atheist longer than me, so what am I before? An astronaut?

Sigh..

All that, and the above is all you got?

Don't bother going up any mountain. You will be wasting your very valuable time!

Dem mama and papa no de? Abi na di money im pay dem so reach dat dey sold der brain too?

ThinkWISELY:
Why won't it drop, useless country like UK where after spending millions of naira on education, they can't even honour your certificate and give you a reputable job in their country.


Useless grandma country


If you know you know.

Don't mind them. Rather than letting you stay, they send you back with the knowledge they sold you so you can return home and use it to help make Naija great again.

chibaby1985:
I just quoted a SOURCE

Perhaps do some more research next time or you might not even invent a reputable valid simple thread!


History of the Internet

midolian:
Naira marlians...

The misguided ones glorifying corruption because it's not affecting them directly.

It is "affecting them directly". Some just don't have the brains to know.

See where our money went! Straight down our illustrious former Senate President's throat!

According to him, "The action of the EFCC only reinforced our earlier stated position that their current investigation is mischievous, contrary to the tenets of the rule of law and only aimed at settling scores."

Vote for Saraki, for President, my nice and very intelligent people. There is no way he has chopped enough of the wealth of our nation.

Though I must confess that after the lies about Okorocha and his wife being arrested I don't trust Sahara who also carried this news!

Goldenonyx:
Pls what is the annual budget of America if oridnary panapana in a city is gulping over 1 trillion naira yearly.

The US federal budget would be a record $4.746 trillion, for October 1, 2019, through to September 30, 2020.


New York’s 2019-20 budget is $175 billion

Do the math let is know how much that is in Naira.

tintingz:
Angel Gabriel is the mouthpiece of Allah. Whatever Angel Gabriel said is from Allah and whatever Muhammad said is from Allah.

If you say so. Personally, I'd rather go up the mountain to the organ direct rather than settle for what the organ grinder says. But hey, each to their own.

tintingz:
The Quran is also about God's commandments, rules, what he likes and hate, fairytales and myths.

Again, if you say so. Damn, though. If you know all this why are you asking me to be Allah's mouthpiece?

Hellooo! Go up the mountain to the organ tintingz!

tintingz:
Lol, if God is advising his creation to stay away from their wives because menstruation is harmful and impure, does this mean such God is all-knowing and intelligent? I mean he can do the right thing from onset instead of giving advice or you forget "prevention is better than cure"?, Allah didn't know that, he made mistakes and try to correct them.

Sounds like you refused to go up the mountain to the organ and stayed at the bottom and settled for the organ grinder who told you all this. Were you not satisfied with the response you got? Go on up the mountain to the organ and tell Allah that God made mistakes according to you! When I went up the mountain to the organ itself, I had way more important questions of my own to ask and would hardly be playing errand person for you.

tintingz:
A God like this is imperfect, not all-knowing and not all-intelligent.

Oh. My bad. You must have gone up the wrong mountain or on the wrong day or met the wrong God, the organ grinder perhaps, or God just didn't have the time for you for some reason.

I wonder how many times I'm going to have to keep advising you to go on up the mountain again to the organ this time, and ask God to explain why the God you see there is "imperfect, not all-knowing and not all-intelligent". In fact kick God of God's seat and sit there yourself and you be the God, since you seem to think you can do a much better job of creating women who don't need to menstruate! I'm certain that if you do a good enough job you'd even find those who would bow down and worship you, or you can create you own.

tintingz:
So you don't know and you're defending Allah. I'm disappointed

Please don't accuse me of what I never do! No God gave me the duty of God defender! If God needs defending, God can very well defend God's self and does not need me to defend God! Go on up the mountain to the....... Argh! I give up!

tintingz:
The word of God in the Quran is simple and plain, eat is eat, run is run, interpreting to another thing it is meaningless.

If you say so. Though, to be honest, if it is as "simple and plain" as you say it is, and "eat is eat" and "run is run", why, I wonder, are you struggling so much to comprehend and understanding it so?

tintingz:
Ok, you have evidence of God, yes?

Yep, I have.

tintingz:
You don't believe in Jesus, Ok.

Nope. I don't believe the things that I know.

tintingz:
If you don't have the concept of God, how did you arrive at the bolded?

It's from the Quran, doh. The Quran that you yourself said was "the Word of God". It's still not a "concept of God" though, least not my God of whom no image or concept can be created. Just text in a book. Or did someone tell you the book which you say is "the word of God" is God? Don't be misled. God clearly dislikes images made of God and worshipped by people.


By the way, I see you've shifted this to some sort of "prove God exists" argument, and away from engaging with a text, which you say is "simple and plain", and in which "eat is eat" and "run is run", even though you are obviously struggling so much to comprehend and understanding it so.

Well, sorry, that's not a thing that I do - prove to people whether God exists or not, that is. I've been there see, as I've said, "probably for longer than you've breathed air". But while I was in the state you're in, there was absolutely no way anyone could possible prove to me that God exists! Imagine! God sending me some stupid silly mouth piece organ grinder and not getting of God's ass and coming to prove God itself! I am buda. The buda that God created. And that God knows I will tell that stupid silly mouth piece organ grinder to go fuq itself! "And tell God while it's at it to come prove God to me Godself!" I tell you, I said it often enough. And God must have finally given in because here we are with that same buda aleluyaing and amening and allah akbaring all over Nairaland!

Don't you dare settle for the organ grinder tintingz! Go on up the mountain to the organ yourself! I'm absolutely certain that if God feels the need to prove anything to you God will get off God's ass and do so, and you can tell God then how imperfect and unintelligent God is for supposedly telling you not to screw a menstruating woman if that's what concerns you most. Alternatively, screw away. It's not as if there's some God waiting to turn you into a pillar of salt! Or is there tintingz?


To anyone who wonders, part of this conversation went on over in Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All?

And yes, this is the same buda who was The Atheist In Islam For Muslims

God is indeed most merciful, most intelligent, most merciful, most wise, most everything I can think of, I have finally discovered.

tintingz:
Allah said in Quran,

I insist that it is written that the Angel Gabriel said to the Prophet Mohammed ṣallā Allāhu ʿalayhi wa-ʿala āli-hi wa-sallam, who wrote down what he was told and we now read.

tintingz:
And they ask you about menstruation. Say, "It is harm, so keep away from wives during menstruation. And do not approach them until they are pure. And when they have purified themselves, then come to them from where Allah has ordained for you. Indeed, Allah loves those who are constantly repentant and loves those who purify themselves. (Quran 2:222)

- Do you believe the Quran is the word of God?

I do not believe anything if I can help it. I'd rather chose to know than believe whatever crap I decide to create in my head. The Quran is about God though and that would do for me.

tintingz:
- When something is said to be harmful and impure, what does it mean?

It means something is harmful and impure and that I should be advised to stay away from it, like I am advised to stay away from having intercourse with a menstruating woman or that men should just let me be if I am menstruating.

Personally, I'm glad that men were sent this message! You know what pigs they can be like, demanding sex even when the woman is not in the mood!

tintingz:
- Again and I will ask, does Allah the most intelligent and all-knowing knew menstruation will be harmful and impure long before creation, if yes, why made it exist?

Sorry, but you are going to have to go up the mountain with Moses and Aaron and the 70 et al and ask Allah why menstruation exists, yourself or you can check in any good science textbook. I, buda, do not speak for Allah.

tintingz:
There's nothing very complex about the Quran, you're the one assuming it to be complex.

Ok. But how what you refer to as "the Word of God" would be simple and not complex does amuse the hell out of me.

tintingz:
In the thread you claim you don't believe in Jesus(correct me if I'm wrong) but you're quoting his words up and down like you also believe in him, are you like Thomas Jefferson, are you a Christian deist?

I guess I am going to do the rain thing again, so here goes.

When rain is pissing down on my head and I am wet and I am cold, I do not stand there believing or disbelieving whether it is rain that is falling on my head making me cold and wet, I check if it is rain that is falling on my head and making me cold and wet, and once I find out the answer, I do not believe or disbelieve what I have found out because I now know what is falling on my head and making me cold and wet.

No, I do not believe in Jesus Christ because I have bothered to check if what he taught was true and now that I have checked, I know.

tintingz:
Ok, you subscribe to God, can you tell us the concept of your God?

"Subscribe to God"? What does that mean exactly?

If you mean "do I worship God", then the answer is I try to worship God by doing God's will, which to me is, love my neighbours, and do unto others as I will have them do unto me (with a caveat), to forgive those who trespasses against me so that my trespasses can be forgiven, to feed the poor and to “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth and subdue it. To rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” ^Ref

I say try, because it might be the case that while I might think I might be worshipping God, God might disagree.

As to the "concept of my God". My God is not a concept. And I do not make concepts or images of my God for fear that I might inadvertently bow down and worship images that I create in my head.