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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:35pm On Dec 13, 2018
obixcel:
Yes..but you need evidence and proof, no proof, no evidence, cos there's none. President Trump is not a criminal, you libtards are just consumed with hate and clutching at straws - you're going to be disappointed. 6 more yrs - always remember that.
Funny how you accuse me of being "consumed with hate and clutching at straws", yet you're the one who feels the need to insult and call me names.

No, Trump might not be a criminal, but the mode of reasoning you show above is rather typical of him, and by golly if the majority of Americans would put up with it come the next election.

Time, they say, will tell.
Christianity Etc › Re: . by budaatum: 4:54pm On Dec 13, 2018
humandroid:
Science as so far failed to a certain degree, because Science is trying to study an illusion without integrating the basic fundamentals that create the illusion we call Physical reality.
But note, op, that without the scientific method, and logic, and being rational, illusions would blind you to consciousness (whatever that is!).
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 4:29pm On Dec 13, 2018
obixcel:
Trump did nothing illegal, and a sitting President cannot be indicted
You do know he'd stop "sitting" some day, right?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:11pm On Dec 12, 2018
obixcel:
Google manipulation. That's what they do to their search engines. It's heavily Anti-trump and yet they always argue that they are non partisan. grin
I don't think you understand how Google's algos work. If you did, you'd know the fact that so much Trump and idiot exists is what makes them come up when googleed.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:07pm On Dec 12, 2018
obixcel:
He blamed President Trump in the end - blaming him(Trump) for his(Cohen's) tax and loan fraud grin. Fact is, His crimes are not Trump's crimes.
I see you left out the hush money!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum:
Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen sentenced to three years

In addition to three years of jail time, Cohen must forfeit $500,000, offer restitution of $1.4 million, and pay a fine of $50,000.

Cohen tells the court “I have been living in a personal and mental incarceration ever since the day that I accepted the offer to work for [Trump].”
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:56pm On Dec 11, 2018
obixcel:
hahahaha...Flashback: Trump would never win, remember?
Not quite, actually. I was always concerned you Americans might go for him, then Comey did that Hillary email thing and gave it to him.

Left to me, forget the Russians, Comey should be jailed for election tampering!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:12pm On Dec 11, 2018
What's going on in Wisconsin?
Christianity Etc › Church Of England Clergy Recognises Transgenders by budaatum(op): 9:24pm On Dec 11, 2018
The Church of England has published advice on how to welcome transgender people into the Anglican faith.

The pastoral guidance stops short of offering a new service or a specific blessing but it does advise Anglican clergy to address transgender people by their chosen name. It notes: “For a trans person to be addressed liturgically by the minister for the first time by their chosen name may be a powerful moment in the service.”

The document was approved by the House of Bishops on Monday night and will now be adopted into the church’s common worship. It encouraged clergy to be “creative and sensitive” in enabling people to mark a gender transition in “celebratory” way.

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Politics › Re: 2015: Jonathan’s Book Misrepresented Facts, Says US by budaatum: 7:17pm On Dec 11, 2018
zlantanfan:
But Jonathan handled the BBOG poorly na, is it Obama's fault he saw a leadership vaccum that didn't take life serious.

Is it Obama's fault he needed to see competence before handling weapons of mass destruction to a drunk
Wasn't there some #BBOG money that was dasukied away, sef?
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm In A Fix, Need Help! by budaatum:
Ma said, "why is it that when people tell you something, you discard it without trying it first?"

It wasn't true! I started going to church at 7 when I realised it was a way to get out of the house on Sundays. I'd even read the Bible by 13. All the same, on hearing that, I started going to church on Sunday, Bible Study on Tuesdays, and became secretary of the Parochial Church Council and of a gender group. But I never lost my ability to reason, and remained an atheist throughout, and everyone knew, since I wasn't afraid to tell anyone who asked.

My regular church going ended a few years ago. I got bored, really. After 12 years of going, hearing the same things over and over felt like sitting in primary one for 12 years. That's not to say I gained nothing! I met some wonderful caring people, after all.

Ok, perhaps it was easy for me. I'd been an atheist for a long long time before going to church, and went only to see their point of view and not to express mine. My family would not ask me to pray because they are tired of hearing me thanking everyone for being present and hoping we'd continue to be present in future, amen. And no one forced me to go to vigils! And when I had had enough, I stopped going and now ma can't say, try it first! In fact, I've influenced her thinking more than church did mine and she's asking all sorts of irreverent questions in church!

It is emotional blackmail. And it's disgusting! I can't understand why you feel the need to do what everyone needs you to do. I can only assume you need to grow more, and what you are going through would help you understand yourself, and others, more. You'll be much stronger for it in the end.

Just remember, no atheist god will throw you in hell for worshipping a God that doesn't exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 5:35am On Dec 11, 2018
jesusjnr:
Hi buda, what up? Been quite a while, so just thought I should pop in to say hi. I hope you're good?
Always good. Hi.
Christianity Etc › Young, Gay And Christian by budaatum(op): 1:16am On Dec 11, 2018
If you are a young Christian in the UK, coming out can pose extra challenges.

While some churches offer acceptance, others show hostility. It’s down to different interpretations of the Bible.

Meet Aiko and David who both identify as Bible-believing, gay Christians, but who are walking very different paths.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Or Irreligious People Fond Of This ? by budaatum:
urahara:
Why are atheists and irreligious people fond of blaming Nigeria or Africa's problems on religion.

After all we were not the only ones the whites brought the religion to. How do they associate economic failures to religion ?

I'm just curious undecided
Religion, as practised in Nigeria, promotes a way of thinking that is detrimental to our continued existence. The notion that some messiah would come from heaven promotes dependence, unfortunately, on false hope. If Nigerian religion taught rational thinking, which is the sort of Christianity practised in Europe, no one would mind, but ours promotes prayer instead of action, then we complain that our nation is not like Europe!

Our religion makes people reason wrong. People think paying tithes is way more important than paying their rent or childrens' school fees. Does it not make sense to save your money and earn interest, if not pay rent and school fees than pay it to an already wealthy pastor in hope of an heavenly afterlife? Why not invest that money in a heavenly current life?

Up till about the 17 century, non-payment of tithes was almost a crime in UK, and if you didn't go to church, you might be hard pressed to get some jobs. But over the years, tithes have evolved into taxation, raising money to make European societies the paradise that they seem to be while numerous churches are being converted to houses and pubs.

Please go check nations that "the whites brought religion to" and tell me which ones practicing religion like we do has prospered. Our sort of religion is 16 century European religion, at best. Even the Europeans had to dump it to progress, and so would we, if we wish to move forward, which incidentally, we do. There will come a time when if you tell someone some guy in some far away country was born without the mother having sex with a man, people would agree with you since they could have been artificially inseminated. Apart from that, they'd call you a crackpot or offer to pay for you to get a proper education.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 12:29am On Dec 11, 2018
No need to be sorry obixcel. I was only stating my view. We'll know who's right in 2 years time.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:02pm On Dec 10, 2018
obixcel:
"Next Election"? I thought he was going to be impeached sooner or real quick grin 6 more years, got it? Six!!
If he does more than one term, I would eat my hat. I find it hard to believe most Americans like what they're seeing.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:26pm On Dec 10, 2018
Trump administration departure list: Everyone who has been fired by Trump or quit since he took office

The growing list of political figures with whom he has parted company reveals two years of acrimony and chaos at the Trump White House. Here’s a run-down of all the firings and resignations.

John Kelly – December 2018. Mr Trump has been in discussions for months about replacing Mr Kelly. The retired Marine Corps general was hired in July 2017 to bring order to the White House, but ultimately fell out with his boss.

Matthew Whitaker – December 2018. He was named acting attorney general in November this year, replacing Jeff Sessions. But he immediately came under scrutiny over past remarks about the investigation into possible Russian collusion with Mr Trump's presidential election campaign. Mr Trump said instead, he would be nominating William Barr as the next attorney general.

Nikki Haley – December 2018. She revealed in October she would be stepping down as US ambassador to the UN at the end of the year. Mr Trump has put forward State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert as her successor. She is also subject to Senate review.

Jeff Sessions – November 2018. After months of being attacked and ridiculed by the president, the former senator was forced out as attorney general, having served as the nation’s top law enforcement official since February 2017.

Don McGahn – October 2018. Mr Trump revealed in August that the White House counsel would leave following strains between the two over Robert Mueller’s investigation.

Scott Pruitt – July 2018. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) chief quit after he came under fire over a series of ethics controversies.

David Shulkin – March 2018. He left his position the Veteran Affairs secretary, telling the media he had been fired rather than resigning.

HR McMaster – March 2018. Mr Trump’s national security adviser was replaced by John Bolton.

Andrew McCabe – March 2018. The deputy FBI director was fired by Jeff Sessions 26 hours before his scheduled retirement. He was accused of leaking information to the media.

Rex Tillerson – March 2018. The secretary of state was fired by the president on after a series rifts. Mr Trump tweeted earlier this month that Mr Tillerson was “dumb as a rock” and “lazy as hell".

Gary Cohn – March 2018. The National Economic Council director and former Goldman Sachs president said he resigned his advisory role.

Hope Hicks – February 2018. The White House communications director, a long-serving and trusted Trump aide, decided to resign.

Rob Porter – February 2018. The White House staff secretary stepped aside following accusations of domestic abuse from former wives.

Omarosa Manigault Newman – December 2017. The former star of The Apprentice was fired as assistant to the president, and would go on to write a book about her time in the White House called Unhinged.

Richard Cordray – November 2017. The US Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s first director quit his administration role.

Tom Price – September 2017. The Health and Human Services secretary quit under pressure from Mr Trump over travel practices.

Stephen Bannon – August 2017. Mr Trump’s chief strategist was fired after clashing with other top White House figures, including the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner.

Anthony Scaramucci – July 2017. The White House communications director was fired by Mr Trump after only 10 days on the job. Mr Scaramucci had openly criticised Mr Bannon.

Reince Priebus – July 2017. Replaced as chief of staff by John Kelly, Priebus lost Mr Trump’s confidence after setbacks in Congress.

Sean Spicer – July 2017. Resigned as White House press secretary, ending a turbulent six-month tenure.

Walter Shaub – July 2017. The head of the US Office of Government Ethics, who repeatedly clashed with Mr Trump.

Michael Dubke – May 2017. Resigned as White House communications director.

James Comey – May 2017. The FBI director, who led the Russia probe before Mr Mueller, was fired by Mr Trump.

Katie Walsh – March 2017. The deputy White House chief of staff was transferred out to a Republican activist group.

Michael Flynn – February 2017. Resigned as Mr Trump’s national security adviser. Mr Flynn later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. He is set to be sentenced later in December.

Sally Yates – January 2017. Mr Trump fired the acting US attorney general after she ordered Justice Department lawyers not to enforce his immigration ban.


Just can't find the staff these days!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:02pm On Dec 10, 2018
Next election, it would be 'lock him up!'

Prosecutors may seek to indict Donald Trump as soon as he leaves office over bombshell court filings released on Friday, a senior Democrat has claimed, as the opposition party ramped up plans to assail the president in the second half of his term.

“There’s a very real prospect that on the day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him — that he may be the first president in quite some time to face the very real prospect of jail time,” California Democratic congressman Adam Schiff, incoming chair of the House Intelligence Committee, said on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 4:37am On Dec 10, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Who did he win against?
I thought O'Sullivan was washed up, when a few months ago, I saw him playing against an Asian/Chinese/Japanese lady
Ronnie O’Sullivan beats Mark Allen to secure seventh UK snooker crown
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 11:40pm On Dec 09, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Wow, O'Sullivan is still on tops?
Does the Scot, Stephen Hendry too, still competitively play?
Did you watch or follow the Fury fight?
O'Sullivan won. Hendry retired years ago, and no, didn't watch the fight.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 9:21pm On Dec 09, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Good read so far this "The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari" book.

I am captivated, currently reading along.
I've actually gone past Chapter 3, and couldnt help not contrasting with the hammer house of horror fetish houses we have
when he was describing the beauty of the ancient temples strewn across the mystical landscape of India.

You need fibre in your diet and drinking of lots of water chief.

I can on my fingers count how many times this year I've watched TV.
Which Ronnie is this?
Is it the gangster Krays, or is it the two Ronnies, as in Corbett and Barker?
The snooker Ronnie. He's going for a record 19 Championships. I'm in and out catching the score myself. It's character building
Christianity Etc › Re: Father Mbaka Speaks On Assassination Attempt, Gunshots Fired At Him (Video) by budaatum: 5:27pm On Dec 09, 2018
Hizzy:
Why not understand the hole thing b4 you conclude
Catholic churches all over the world do fund raising once in a year we call it Bazaar
and Obi he has his siblings and they are priest and Rev.Sister he knows the rules that during Bazaar you make your donations public not privately but Obi don't want to give publicly he said he'll giv privately and Mbaka said no make it public so that the Church Committee on Bazaar will know.
Mbaka is being careful here because he doesn't want people to say he want to Obi's house and he gave him 10million dollars
Do you now understand how it happened
Obi is not a stupid person, least going by what I've heard of him, and you seem to be implying he is also well versed in Catholicism so I'm certain he planned to give money 'at' the bazaar, but can you not see the conundrum he would have been in? If he gave anything less than 5 million, people would say "is that all, mr stingy vpwannabe?" And if he gave much more and Mbaka's holy spirit anoints him, it would seem like he rented a priest!

It wouldn't surprise me if Obi's, "look, Mbaka, we are running a campaign that will cost us a lot. Take this 2m and pray for us. For the bazaar, put me down for 10m. When I enter, I go double am", got lost in the post. Fr Mbaka's would have said "God bless you. Sheepie, Vote Obi!" And not this hs!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:11pm On Dec 09, 2018
obixcel:
Hillary Clinton paid for a fake dossier prepared by Russians .
Is that true, or you just fake newsing us here? I doubt the FBI would be paying Russians for a dossier on Trump! If they indict Clinton, they might have to indict themselves!

After the election, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to continue gathering intelligence about Trump and Russia, but the bureau pulled out of the arrangement after Steele was publicly identified in news reports.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 4:58pm On Dec 09, 2018
Happy, what's up with you and francis247 feeling desolate? Life all ahead of you and you're thinking, "is this as good as it gets" ? Damn man, you fell through a roof years ago and get to tell the story today, but when you fall today - and honesty? You know you're nowhere near falling today, Mr no drive but drive enough to have recently sat his last exam for a degree! - you can't imagine telling now story sometime in the future when you and everything about you has evolved a tiny bit more!

I've been reading The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari. "Cheesy", is one review, but worth considering, since it deals with the, well.....

I'll let you into a secret. You got more time in front of you than you have behind and one way or the other you will live every minute of it. The least one owes oneself is to ensure it's as heavenly as one can make it, and not hellish at all. You wouldn't forgive yourself if you don't at least, try.

Two things, you aren't moaning as much as my response makes it sound like you are so mind the exaggeration. All the same, as muttley said, we all going through stuff. Yesterday, I didn't get to the dunny!

Muttley, you watching the Ronnie?
Christianity Etc › Re: Father Mbaka Speaks On Assassination Attempt, Gunshots Fired At Him (Video) by budaatum: 4:26pm On Dec 09, 2018
Hizzy:
So you wants to Tell me that nofin concerns him with politics but their policies will affect him and his Members
Just like saying Oyedipo should close Winners University and face his calling and leave Education Sector for Teachers or professors
He was not talking about politics! He was asking Obi for money! And I bet you, if Obi had paid, he'd have been telling his sheepie, "vote obi. I, mbaka, anoint him"!

If he wants to talk politics, he should not be prostituting himself!
Christianity Etc › Re: Father Mbaka Speaks On Assassination Attempt, Gunshots Fired At Him (Video) by budaatum: 4:22pm On Dec 09, 2018
Hizzy:
Mbaka speaks according to the direction of Holy Spirit.
You insult the Holy Spirit!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 1:01pm On Dec 09, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Yeah two or three people
How would the smell affect you, afterall it is virtual?
Seems typing away on the laptop or mobile under the duvet took to your fancy.
Oh. They don't have to be under my duvee then?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 12:43pm On Dec 09, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
You can still be in church under the duvet and in PJs.
With two other people? They'd better be the right genders and not smelly!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 11:58am On Dec 09, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them"
- Matthew 18:20

Classic case of church even on in here
I guess ear plugs would be handy.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 11:51am On Dec 09, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Church is where you make it.
Even on here, church is

It's a beautiful sunny and wet day.
Changed my mind after a shower and a coffee. Both woke me up.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sinday Thread by budaatum: 10:47am On Dec 09, 2018
Up. Maybe I should go to church?!

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