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Politics › Re: Nobody Wants To Give Me Credit For June 12 '93 Election, Says Babangida by budaatum: 10:46am On Dec 09, 2018
I give an example: I took part in the management of PDP and I can’t disown them because I’m part of them. I made an input into its emergence, and if you say it is the worst thing that could ever happen to the country, I cannot in all conscience sit down and say it is because I participated in it.
See this thiefman! Babangida, your taking part in PDP management is likely what made it a party of thieves!
Politics › Re: Peter Obi's Bank Accounts Frozen by budaatum: 10:06am On Dec 09, 2018
This was from a year ago!


As part of investigations into the 13 billion Naira found at a flat in Osborne Towers, Ikoyi, Lagos state, the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) has searched apartments of the immediate past Governor of Anambra State, Peter Obi; and a former Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Adamu Mu’azu.

Other prominent persons, living in the building, include a former Managing Director of the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC), Mrs Esther Nnamdi-Ogbue, and C.E.O of Ebony Life Television, Mo’ Abudu.

The media aide to Mr Obi, Mr Valentine Obienyem, confirmed this in a statement on Tuesday, noting that all the apartments in the building were searched by the commission.
Christianity Etc › Re: Father Mbaka Speaks On Assassination Attempt, Gunshots Fired At Him (Video) by budaatum: 9:39am On Dec 09, 2018
halfcurrent:
This his story may not be true
The fact that he had to get "a statement signed by signed by Chief Aka Emmanuel, President, National Adoration Family, Chief Okolo Godwin, President, Adoration Fathers’ Associations World Wide, Mrs Ann Aligwe,President, Adoration Mothers’ Association World Wide, Chukwu Agoziem, President, Adoration Youths’ Association World Wide and Barr Ike Maximus Ugwuoke- Media Chief" makes me suspicious. You'd think a press release by the police would be more convincing!

But if it's true, then Buhari done it! I heard he was unhappy that Mbaka insulted Obi.
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Idolising Me, For God Not To Kill Me, Says Adeboye by budaatum: 9:31am On Dec 09, 2018
Adeboye says, "I'm anointed. But touch me, I am not God!"
Christianity Etc › Why I'm Not A Christian - Bertrand Russell by budaatum(op):
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:53pm On Dec 08, 2018
Anduku:
Are you saying Woodward is God that cannot lie?
No he's not god, though gods do lie, but many would attest to his credibility built up over many years. He's not exactly the sort you brush off with "fake news", and "liberal". Or is he?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:26pm On Dec 08, 2018
obixcel: Protests than it being attributed to Fuel taxes only. In fact it's more like a rejection to globalism and globalist control.
Definitely so, for the French. They hate globalisation! And they know riots work, for them.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:24pm On Dec 08, 2018
Anduku:
More than half of what you wrote here is garbage from the fake news media. Many of them have denied ever saying such
You saying, Woodward was lying?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:17pm On Dec 08, 2018
Abbeybailey:
558 points today alone. This will lead to economic recession . More than 4 percent alone in one week. A lot of investors are not happy.
The Dow fell 2.24% on Friday to 24,388, ending the week down 4.5%. It’s down 9.5% from its peak, but down only 1.3% so far this year, and flat year-over-year.

The S&P 500 fell 2.3% on Friday to 2,633, ending the week down 4.6%. It’s down 10.5% from its peak, down 1.5% year-to-date, and down 0.7% from a year ago.

The Nasdaq fell 3.05% on Friday to 6,969, ending the week down 4.9%. It’s down 14.3% from its peak, but remains up 1% year-to-date and is up 1.9% from a year ago.

The Russell 2000 small caps index fell 1.98% on Friday, ending the week down 5.6%. It’s down 16.9% from the peak, down 5.7% year-to-date, and down 4.8% from a year ago.

So in the bigger scheme of things, this sell-off is just a minor ripple. Wall Street crybabies are acting like it’s the end of the world, and they want the Fed to back off, obviously, because stocks should only go up, and by a lot, every single year, for all times to come, and when they refuse to do that, it’s a cruel abnormality.

Ugly Week for Stocks: Bad Sign that Even the WSJ’s Mega-Effort to Reflate them Fizzled
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Daddy Freeze An Idiot, A Fool? by budaatum: 3:19pm On Dec 07, 2018
So, the Pastor Funke Adejumo who asks church members to sow seeds of $1000 dollars each is not a fool? In fact, I agree. The fools are the seed sowers, unless you got your money through God answering your yahoo prayer, in which case, you're just paying your yahoo masters their dues, I guess.
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahoo Boy's Shiloh Prayer Point Goes Viral by budaatum: 3:10pm On Dec 07, 2018
jeff1607:
As long as he pays his tithe and contributions he is covered.
Paying God to close eye to sin? Should have known it was that simple.
Politics › Re: "Sign The Electoral Bill Now" - Saraki Advises President Buhari by budaatum: 4:34am On Dec 06, 2018
sunnymix:
Why is bubu afraid to sign it huh
With these thieves? Dem fit run carry the money go now!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 4:11am On Dec 06, 2018
Politics › Re: African China by budaatum: 3:49am On Dec 06, 2018
KingSango:
If y'all don't build a regional military with men from other nations you might lose all of Africa to different groups. Pres. Xi doesn't want to rule Africa.
Lose Africa? As if it belonged to anyone to begin with. When better utilisers of it turn up, we would gladly hand it over. When they leave, they can't exactly take it with them.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible by budaatum:
MuttleyLaff:
The institutionalised church never had an intention for the laity to have direct access to the contents of the bible.
As a matter of fact, the laity was prohibited from owning or having a bible to read
Even translation of the bible, for a long period, initially was forbidden
To start with, it was in latin, and not like Awolowo gave them free education. Then paper was scarce and the bible, being a big book took, time to be copied so was expensive. You could understand how it could seem like they prohibited it considering the cost. Though with prohibition being one of the first 'thou shalt nots', I'm inclined to agree with you.

There were times when families had one bible and you dare not touch it without permission, then I bring mine out and they argue its not the same book as their dad's. Go further back, and a whole village might have just one. People don't know how good its gotten.
Politics › Re: African China by budaatum: 2:40am On Dec 06, 2018
KingSango:
Chinese tried to help the African because the China want to end White Supremacy. The Chinese brought untold billions that caused the rise of Africa, yet still the African parties, plays, sings, dances, and doesn't secure Africa from the White Supremacists. So the Chinese knows the reality that an Africa in the hands of the White Supremacists is going to hurt China.
So they grab it for themselves, the Chinese, that is?

There's this story about a person who had their talent taken from them because they refused to use it. I think it's in a book. Folks should read!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:27am On Dec 06, 2018
Charles is a bit of a doomsayer, and its a view, still, China’s Global Electricity Takeover!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:51pm On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
Did they Itemize some of the "countless scams" that are catching up with him (with evidence to support). Seems like we heard this before for the past 2 yrs. Take a look at the famous phrases:
"The walls are closing in on him"
"Trump is finished and won't recover from this"
"No way Trump would get to 270...there is no path!"
*to name a few*
What you posted of course was an opinion piece from the Guardian
They do say the wheels of the law grind slowly.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 2:40pm On Dec 05, 2018
[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+7%3A11-17&version=NIV]Luke 7:11-17[/url]

wisdom people


A great prophet has appeared among us........
Politics › Re: African China by budaatum: 1:10pm On Dec 05, 2018
HappyPagan:
What's more terrible than believing in the God of your colonial masters? What's more terrible than following the words of Moses?
Sacrificing to your own gods, bashing babies' heads in and selling each other as slaves!
Christianity Etc › Re: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by budaatum: 10:36am On Dec 05, 2018
Akin1212:
HBD Boss. LLNP.

Mine is Dec 5.
Happy birthday Akin.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:01am On Dec 05, 2018
The USS John C Stennis and support ships will arrive off the coast of Iran by the end of the week marking the first such US military presence in the area for eight months. The move comes after Tehran launched a new destroyer, the Sahand, and warned President Trump against continued US sanctions.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:24am On Dec 05, 2018
Trump's countless scams are finally catching up to him. it seems likely that for the first time in his life, nothing can protect Donald J Trump from the trouble he’s made, and the sheer scale of it is astonishing.
The Guardian


Is the Guardian on the liberal list, by the way?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, What's Your Opinion On This One? by budaatum: 12:12am On Dec 05, 2018
francis247:
The process of pulling most Africans in my opinion out of the pit of their delusion and ignorance as far as religion is concerned has to be slow, tactical, methodical and steady.
This though, 100 thumbs up and include, deliberate, intelligently, purposefully and the such like for a purpose.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:21pm On Dec 04, 2018
US-China Trade deal?
Where is it?!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, What's Your Opinion On This One? by budaatum: 7:17pm On Dec 04, 2018
francis247:
Let it be duly noted that I am an atheist. I've been one for over two years. I do not believe in the existence of God, gods, Satan, demon or any supernatural being for that matter. I believe I'm solely and single handedly responsible and accountable for my actions and inactions. I find the concept of this world being under the control of any supernatural being or beings laughable to say the least.
Glad to know, francis247, the atheist who laughs at the beliefs of others. Personally, "everything else created by man supposedly for the good of his specie" is not "laughable to say the least", to me.

francis247:
I believe that religion was born out of nothing but fear, unnecessary and irrelevant fear of the yet to be known, an infantile explanation to certain realities of our universe.
"Nothing but fear"? Might I suggest you read the initial post of this thread and come tell me the fear expressed therein is "Nothing"!

Odd enough, it is nothing, since it's based on a cooked up belief that the glass is half empty, and the opportunity to go fill it up with whatever you want, "meaningless"!

francis247:
It's this unnecessary fear in most average people that is capitalized upon by most religions to propagate their doctrines.
There you go again, "unnecessary fear". Are you admitting that the fear op expressed is "unnecessary"?

I feel that I should capitalise upon you and propagate my own doctrines, since you have this, "unnecessary fear" already!

francis247:
I cannot remember the last time I prayed or went to church. I stopped going to church as I could no longer hold myself from laughing my ass off as the pastor preached or whenever it was time to pray. I did not explicitly lead with the fact that I'm an atheist lest theists, rather than approach the topic and its content from a logical and rational perspective start spewing some bald-faced balderdash as usual but as you may have seen, most of them did not disappoint.
When I wake up in the morning, I say "buda, ya!" And by so doing I reaffirm existence. One day, I will not say "buda, ya!" And buda will be no more! You should pray! My two cents.

As to your, "rather than approach the topic and its content from a logical and rational perspective", I guess we can only ask you to forgive us for "spewing some bald-faced balderdash as usual", and not being smart like you. Out of interest, has life got a meaning yet?

francis247:
My advocacy is that fellow atheists should stop using truculence in compelling theists to see absurdity in the belief in the existence of any God or Demon and this is based on the fact that, as I earlier stated, most Africans are intellectually fragile.
To start with, "most Africans" are not "intellectually fragile"! Quite a lot might be, but that's not most. We Africans are the most unfragile humans and are able to adapt and survive in any environment. Resilient, describes us better.

Nor is it necessarily "absurd" to believe in the existence of any God or Demon. There are quite a lot of people with such beliefs whom "absurd" would be the last word you'd describe them with!

And "truculence", "Disposed or eager to fight or engage in hostile opposition; belligerent. 2. Showing or expressing bitter opposition or hostility; aggressively defiant: a truculent speech against the new government; a truculent glance. 3. Disposed to violence; ferocious or cruel"?

We atheists do do these things I guess, but the sort of religious people you really mean do have to be kicked out of their slumber, don't you think? Besides, we often challenge them intellectually too.

francis247:
Most theists came to the realization that the existence of God, Satan, life after death, etc. are nothing but fallacies all on their own, when they put their belief and faith in a supposed almighty being to work but he failed beyond reasonable doubt. The process of pulling most Africans in my opinion out of the pit of their delusion and ignorance as far as religion is concerned has to be slow, tactical, methodical and steady. They have to be made to come to that realization on their own lest they keep tagging us agents of some imaginary demon. Sadly most of them are lazy when it comes to studying their religious books very well and will hardly put their so called faith in God to work. You need to pass by a church or better still, check YouTube and see what pastors are doing to most of their sheeples, especially the ladies, you need to hear the kind of so called prayer points the congregation is asked to pray. It's very heartbreaking. Most Africans are very religious one directionally minded people. I see the sad, pitiful and sometimes disdainful look on their faces as I tell them that I don't go to church, as they see me cut up in my own space, doing my thing at my own pace, in my own way and at my own time. I can't help but laugh and feel sorry for them at the same time.
See the above quoted? I'll put it down as your beliefs. The italics are the bits that made my nose curl to different degrees. They are not beliefs I share about Africans, on the whole.

francis247:
And no. I do not no consider my self to be just another average African. I have great strength and intellectual bravery and I am very open minded to the reception of ideas and beliefs that can be reasonably and logically proven because if your belief has no proof, then what you espouse is a paragon of dishonesty.
Now, if only you were an "Average African"!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, What's Your Opinion On This One? by budaatum: 3:36pm On Dec 04, 2018
Good. I expected you to say you had, despite calling it meaningless. So tell, why think reason and behave like the "African, afraid of the yet to be known", "addicted to antediluvian ideas and beliefs, stuck on boot loop", allowing "religious leaders, the pulpit bandits, practically use your brains to mop the floor week in week out", when you have knowledge of a superior alternative? Why has all your study not given you a Japanese mind, or a Chinese mind? Are you afraid of what you now know? Still allowing your brain to mop the floor? Or just addicted to antediluvian ideas and beliefs that you are a product of your environment and can't do anything about it?

Have you just not accepted all you have learnt into your life perhaps and think where you are, limits your mind to working like an "average or majority African mind" ?

Yes, by the way, I am aware of African movies though I hardly ever watch them. Afterall, as a person thinketh, so a person is, and what one fills one's mind with is how one thinketh. I see no reason to fill my mind with junk culture, arts, music, movies, language, value system, when there's superior nutrients (C.f. buda from the east), to fill my mind and develop the "ability to separate reason and rationality from emotions etc". Not that I'm agreeing that all African culture is junk, having this week sent money for a week long Oro ritual in the Orolu Kingdom. Thieves are disturbing us there, and the fear of being caught by Oro keeps them off the streets at night, especially as the Oro is said to be an excuse to capture people to sacrifice, or so we tell them. And you'd find the junk version in Japanese and Chinese culture, and even people from those places who think and reason like your "average or majority African"!

Indeed, "It takes great depth in intellectual strength and bravery to be not only completely open minded to the reception of new ideas, beliefs and and practices but also to go in search of them". The only thing you are saying in this thread of yours is that you might not have such strength, and bravery, afterall. And we are going to give you some, whether you want it or not!

francis247:
Yes I have. Moreover, the proof is in the pudding. Have you seen an African movie or listened to an African music lately, most of them are an insult, a huge slight on the intellect to say the very least. And it's not always as if the people in charge of the production of these works of art are so intellectually lazy to come up with something more sophisticated, something totally different from what we've been seeing over the last two decades, but they unfortunately have to consider the majority and not the minority of their audience, they just can't handle it.


Before the West started buying slaves from Africa, they were doing so from Asia, particularly the western part of the continent. When their people began to die like flies as a result of the trade, majority of them rose up and resisted against the practice which led the Whites to beam their search light on a different part of the world, on people of a different race and they found Africa. Despite Africans dying like flies in the course of the trade, they barely rose up against it until a certain group of persons from the same west rose against it and fought for the termination of the trade. Colonialism and neocolonialism was and is still being vehemently resisted by the Asians. Today parts of the continent are also resisting western religion along with the menace that it brings. But in this part of the world, majority of the people are addicted to mental laziness. Most deride knowledge, research and scientific investigation more than they desire it, wanting to be led than lead. Most Africans are addicted to antediluvian ideas and beliefs, they're stuck on boot loop. It is no wonder the so called religious leaders, the pulpit bandits practically use their brains to mop the floor week in week out. It's sickening to say the very least. Majority of Africans are afraid, afraid of the yet to be known (which they'll never know as long as they continue to distance themselves from knowledge by shying away from research and study), the irrelevant and the unnecessary. The journey of a thousand years begins with a step. The average will rather sit around and look or simply move around in circles rather take a bold and brand new step every now and then. Look around you and the businesses ventured into by most Africans. Majority of Africans are mere distributors of partially of fully manufactured goods and services. We say the West and now the Asians have made Africa a dumping ground, but most of us have aided and abated their activities by our inactions more than our actions. This is the hard and saddening truth. It's not an insult but a statement of fact. Intellectually, Africans are weakest all major races worldwide. The proof is in the pudding. Given the mineral and natural resources this continent has, it should be the greatest in the world, religion or no religion, differences or no differences. They should be running to us and not the other way around. This world is what we made it. It's mainly about the people and less about the resources they were given, it's mainly about the workman and less about his tool. The average Westerner can dedicate his entire life to his carrier, searching for the cure to one disease or the other, trying to come up with one invention or the other, make breakthrough in a scientific project or advance a field of study that has been initiated. But to the average African, if one does not get married and have children, then that person has not lived. It takes great depth in intellectual strength and bravery to be not only completely open minded to the reception of new ideas, beliefs and and practices but also to go in search of them, whereas it takes just a little bit of physical strength to move in circles and reject changes, new ideas, beliefs and values all the while holding on to antiquity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, What's Your Opinion On This One? by budaatum: 7:47pm On Dec 03, 2018
Politics › Re: What Is Bishop Oyedepo's Problem With Buhari? See This by budaatum: 7:33pm On Dec 03, 2018
Can someone provide a link to an extended version of this video please. I am certain the Bishop was asking if you had all become fools who'd believe your President can be replaced by a clone called Jubrin reported on the backpage of a newspaper.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, What's Your Opinion On This One? by budaatum:
francis247:
There you again seeing the big picture but not seeing the bigger picture. The intellectual and psychological strength of the average Japanese and Chinese in comparison to that of the average African is not the same. These societies are filled with more persons of very sophisticated intellectual and psychological strength and prowess compared to the African society. This fact is made manifest not only in their inventions in natural and applied sciences for the material and immaterial advancement of their societies. The result of the clear mental and psychological superiority of the persons that inhabit these societies compared to that of the African society is also made manifest in their immaterial culture, arts, music, movies, language, value system, their innate ability to separate reason and rationality from emotions etc.
And you know this how? Have you studied "their immaterial culture, arts, music, movies, language, value system, their innate ability to separate reason and rationality from emotions etc", things you said were "all meaningless" ?

You say the Japanese and Chinese "manifest" an "innate ability". Shows how much you know of their historical development. What took them thousands of years to learn - their "ability to separate reason and rationality from emotions" - you call "innate" as if they were born with it which conforms with your false notion that we are products of our environment and have no say in the matter.

And half emptying your glass, their say in the matter, the method by which they propagate the "culture, arts, music, movies, language, value system", which is how they ensure everyone learns and acquires the "intellectual and psychological strength" to "separate reason and rationality from emotions"; you call "manifest", disregarding the effort involved in using teaching aids to improve their people!

francis247:
The mentally and psychologically weak (with which the African continent is filled) has the propensity to hold on to religious dogmas in other to truly live and not just survive.
Propensity? As in Africans have the inclination or natural tendency to be religious? I'm on episode 100 of The History of China on podcast. Episode 1 free download is here.

I can assure you that if anyone had a "propensity" for religion, it's the Chinese. And I doubt I need to list religious "propensities" of the Japanese.

francis247:
Attempting to take religion from the average African is like attempting to take a bone from a dog, a candy from a child. It's bound to end badly. He/she just cannot handle it.
This is a lie! Unless you, francis247, is not "average African" and "cannot handle it". Or were you not religious? Are you average now? Ignorance dims when intelligence shineth. If we can take ignorance away from you - average African francis - we can take it away from anyone we want to, and learning you to handle it is on par.
Politics › Re: EFCC Traces N500M Properties To Jonah Jang by budaatum: 8:31pm On Dec 02, 2018
Can somebody explain why I'm not hearing sai bubu on this thread?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Michelle Obama’s Book ‘becoming’ Breaks Sales Record After 15 Days by budaatum: 8:26pm On Dec 02, 2018
She read it beautifully too. You might be able to listen to Becoming, by Michelle Obama here. It expires in 13 days!

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