₦airaland Forum

solite3:
before good works or bad works were even mentioned where they belong to has been set base on their nature (sheep or goat).

You, my friend are putting things the wrong way round! God can't have set up the game knowing who is what and then say 'play' with results that have been predetermined. Imagine I'm a goat. What exactly is supposed to happen to make me become a sheep?

No one's nature is set as a goat or a sheep to start with with no chance to change. You, through your actions, will either become a stubborn goat or a meek sheep. If you stubbornly do not learn the will of God and behave as a goat, it's your choice. And if you do the will of God, which is rather sheepish by it's nature, you are a sheep.

One chooses whether one is left or right, and a stubborn goat or a meek sheep! Each is judged by it's fruits, and the fruit is not determined until the tree grows.

Facts!? Deziani did not pocket any of your money, right? All the money found through whistle blowing is not being found, right? All the loot recovered by EFCC was not recovered, right? It's all APC propaganda, right? Or no one told you, and you did not see the money?

You never suffer reach. When Buhari finally leaves and any evidence of looting is discovered, come and give me excuses for him too yeah. He's my man, and your excuses would be highly appreciated, Not!

bigpicture001:
..read which news paper..? remember I said with facts...ur neck deep into APC's propaganda of blowing tins out of proportion. thier aim is to fix it in ur mind dt pdp is so so so corupt even when a lot of the said missing money are not actually missing. do u realise that the alarm that emir Sanusi raised about missing 24 billion were later found to be false..? I guess no one told u dt. du u know that the 12!billion dollars looted fund headlines raised by the APC on OBJ's alleged senseless spending on power were later found to be adequate..? again. no one told u. du u know that all headline and allegations against Okonjo iweala for corroborating and looting were later found to be false..? also. no one told u. du u know that the FG can't pinpoint one single stealing spree against Allison maduekwe. after creating countless loot.loot loot headlines..still dey didn't change the story for u to know the truth. do u know that maduekwe was richer than tinubu by far b4 both if them entered politics..? now who gave tinubu billions..? yes Dasuki converted monies meant for the military into party use in a late attempt to desperately mk pdp win election. yes that is tru.! and that is looting. but tell me which other one ur Gud APC govt has discovered. remember dasuki's loot sharing happened very latr into jonathan's tenure. that makes him a clean man all along. y is ur very transparent party nit done a shit about billions dey implanted in diverse places in the country and hence forth discoverd by them just to fake headlines that huge amount were stolen by the old govt. till date. no name is in court for it. cuz it was a set up money for propaganda....guy. plz say only tins u know cuz educated well informed ppl are also on.naiaraland and not beer parlour ppl alone...I repeat..BRING it ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nwabekeyi:
Putin doesn't witch hunt, Putin doesn't disobey court orders.

Putin doesn't allow herdsmen slaughter his citizens

Putin doesn't leave his health sector in decay and patronize foriegn healthcare

Go to Putinland and say all the above and see suffering people lynch you!

Kemisolabadmus:
They will not mind dere business, they should let this case rest Abeg

Why should they let this case rest? If she did wrong, should we not know? She is a whole Minister of Finance! If she faked ordinary nysc exemption, who's to say she couldn't be faking something else, like a cheque siphoning our money?

Thank you SERAP jare for doing what sensible Nigerians appreciate!

robay:
i was born in osun,I live in osogbo too, but I think that man try in is own best,though is having issue of salary in osun, i agree with that, but you can't expect this people in government to satisfy everybody at a time.

That is my own point of view sir

I very strongly disagree with your point of view! Perhaps, the man's best is someone else's 'I have just begun'.

You live in Osogbo. Please tell me, have you seen Aregbe's Opon Imo? I spent two years in the Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun looking to see just one, but never did! Were they invisible, perhaps, or more likely, non-existent, I couldn't help wonder!

Aregbe fixed roads in my local government. Beautiful roads they are too, but rumour has it that the 2b Naira he put aside for those roads went missing so he had to find another 2b to do them. If that's true, 2b Naira roads cost twice as much, and we will be paying it back for decades to come since the money was borrowed! Or don't you know why he can't pay salaries?

We are not asking him to have satisfied everybody, but Aregbe has satisfied just about nobody and that's just not good enough for Osun State!

bigpicture001:
..its been long av been monitoring u say shit about tins u know nothing about.now let me engaged u,explain to.me what mess Jonathan has brought to Nigeria. please in clear factual terms. not hear say or beer parlour gist.. bring it on..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go and read the papers jor and educate yourself, you who thinks you know something!

If the looting under GEJ had continued, I wonder where you'd be now. Or were they sharing the loot with you at the time?

thatigboman:
no aide of buhari can ever tell him to concede. Is it oshiomole or amaechi, evil people, that will do that?

No one needs to tell Buhari to concede if he loses. He will concede all by himself!

Mariangeles:
Nigeria will be great when she's finally ready for a female President...
Okonjo-Iweala should be Nigeria's first female president

Not in my Nigeria! All that looting under her nose and she seems to have nothing to say afterwards!

israelmao:
Having fantastic dreams induced by sleep don''t translate into positive impact in the physical life,some people are treating the past as though they were still in the present therefore having the vague picture of the future which is attributive to optical illusion.Hilter was not the first to make and execute such move against them it's in the recesses of history before time began to count in figures,that notwithstanding the incident had only left a great mental revolution in its wake and awaken the giant within making them the world thinktank which is now phenomenal.

I didn't say "fantastic sleep" necessarily translates into "positive impact" . Hitler is a case in point, no positive whatsoever, though dreamer or not.

Sleepers dream about things, and sometimes, those dreams get fulfilled in the physical realm. I swear, one day, I am bringing all the money I dream of into the real world. For now, I'm just dreaming up how to.

bloodofthelamb:
can only conclude that you, my friend is agreeing with the scriptures ...

I'm singling this out for specific reference.

Yes, I agree with Scripture, provided that by "agreeing", you do not mean "believing", since I am not a devil (least I don't think I am).

God in its infinite wisdom has created buda as an unbelieving atheist, so buda is not required to believe, but to understand it, and in that sense is every single word, despite the errors and corruption in it, agreed to by buda. If I find a single word in any Scripture that I disagree with, it is because I am looking at it wrong.

You know what! You drag me into talk I don't often do on here for obvious reasons that it would confuse. Most either see through a Christian lens or an atheist lens or a theist lens or a Islamic lens and so on and see what they hear through their own lens alone. Unless one is born again, is how Christ put it (meaning, abandon all ones preconceived ideas and opinions and what one thinks about a thing), and "do not live on bread alone" (meaning, Scripture is plenty!), one would not even become capable of understanding the Kingdom of God! However, not everyone is required to aspire like buda o. To those whom little is given, very little is required. God is most merciful and wise.

bloodofthelamb:
budaatum, after reading all your beautiful replies, I can only conclude that you, my friend is agreeing with the scriptures that, "all have sinned and falling short of the glory and standard of the holy and perfect God."

So therefore needs a Saviour, or else they perish. This is were the incarnate God man( Jesus Christ) features in. He came that he might deliver us from the perfect standard of God, in other that through him we might be saved and transformed.

All may have indeed sinned (despite my aversion to the sentiment expressed with that phrase), but one is delivered, saved, by 'Jesus Christ', which for me is not achieved by merely worshipping him, or claiming to be born again, or even believing him or in him, but by understanding what he taught and doing his will!

Jesus 'saves' those who "do my will" and not those who do "Lord! Lord!". If "do my will" is lacking in ones "believing", "born again", "worshipping", "Lord! Lord!" and etc, one has not first sought, or found the so called "Kingdom of God", which is an understanding of the ways of the Lord, and such as one worships in vain and may gnash their teeth on judgement day!

If buda's actions do not agree with what you call "beautiful words" then they are not beautiful at all but the ugly words of a hypocrite buda who is going straight to hell!

solite3:
so Jesus is not just talking of any good works but the good works of that characterizes the life of a bornagain.

And what works characterise the life of a born again please?

lionness:
Oloriburuku. Thunder fire you and your entire generation you goat bearded bastard. The road you didn't build in 8 years you now want to build with just three months to go. They've been begging this he goat to come and do the road but he focused only on locations that served his political goals. Now he wants to use the same roads to scam the people. He will tell them that his candidate will finish it. Iranu. So development now has turned to a form of scamming people for vote. What a useless governor. By Gods grace PDP is taking Osun and Ogun states. Those two useless governors dirty deeds will be uncovered.

This ignorant bastard indeed. I love Buhari too much. But God, I beg you please give Osun State to anyone else, even pdp and not this useless man's APC so they can learn that this sort of rubbish is unacceptable!

And we can't be good,maybe on mere human perception,we can,but we can't be good ,in the biblical context,except God ( mark 10:18).

These are the sort of statements you get when understanding is lacking. Imagine! A God sets standards, does not equip one to achieve them, then that God does not only refuse to give one the reward of Eternal Life, that God sends one to hell for failing to meet up to standards that God set but did not equip one to meet up to! What a rather stupid God some portray!

I'm sorry, I'm not having that nonsense. A proper Almighty God cannot create me to fail. Nor can an Almighty God claim the standard is how much love I literally profess for it with my tongue! An Almighty God is not some teenager girl waiting for "I love yous" to determine how much it is loved, and anyone who thinks God can possibly be so tiny minded as to think like that or require that, should be seriously considering that perhaps they don't quite understand what an Almighty God should be or is! If that is the only Almighty God, then thank you God for creating me as an unbelieving atheist. And keep your lousy heaven and Tabanacle while you're at it!

The scripture is very clear on this issue. You show love for a worthy unseen Almighty God when you love those here whom you see. That's the sort of God that could possibly be worthy of my time, and not some stupid God who measures me by how much "Lord! Lord!" I utter with my mouth but not with my actions!

Any Lord God Almighty worthy of my time and consideration would also equip me to meet those standards. And I tell you God has. Not only did God send loads of Prophets and other examples to equip me, God had it written in a book (the Bible), God screamed in the night in Proverbs. God, knowing how ignorantly it created me from mud decided to get off it's ass, become flesh, and came down to earth to preach it to me personally. God spat on mud and rubbed it in my senses in case I was blind, deaf, senseless and could not see, hear, and reason about what I was being taught. God had itself crucified, went to hell, went back up to heaven and sent the Holy Spirit to personally minister to me, just so that one day, through my continuously aspiring to understand these many opportunities to learn and evolve that I have been sent, I buda, shall be worthy to dwell in the Tabernacle of the Lord, if I so desire!

How much more grace should a selfish ignorant human buda want than all that I can't but wonder! I guess buda too like good thing and would never, out of all the Lord Gods, go for a tiny minded one who is more interested in how many "I love yous" buda utters to it! buda would always go for the biggest and best Almighty Lord God in the pack if any at all! Always!

Aspire, and you shall be worthy, and this is how, says buda's Almighty Lord God. Pity that it is a rather selfish Lord, it's one single flaw it would seem. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be the Lord God Almighty of buda alone! And you all could have had some of it! But as it is, it's my Almighty Lord God. It appears to have no other worshippers but buda! That's perhaps why it assists, educates, equips and even evolves buda I suppose, and not have buda aping silly stuff like "one can't, at the least, aspire!"

Bloodofthelamb, you asked if buda Good Samaritan and the David stuff. buda has laid out buda's flag here. To you Sir, is permission now given to measure buda against it (provided you first understand what has been said here!) When buda fails (and she will often, that mud and all, and despite all the assisting, educating, equipping and evolving buda receives from buda's Lord Almighty God!), you pointing it out would be the bringing of a message from buda's Lord God Almighty that buda must aspire more! (I repeat, provided you understand what has been said here.)

lawjjj:
let me remind you that all the gurus, masters, prophets from David, Solomon Muhammad, Jesus, etc. all agrees that "as a man think so he is" prov 23:7.

Remind them also that even if they say the words with their mouths, their hearts could be singing a very different song.

bloodofthelamb:
budaatum, note that this condition is required of us all the time and not when only we are in good mood.

"For it is written be perfect, for your heavenly Father is perfect." I hope you understand what I am trying to point out.

No, I don't know what you are trying to point out at all. Might you wish to explain yourself?

One thing I do know is that I am a human being! If any God created me and wanted me to be perfect, that God wouldn't have made me out of mud, or evolved me from an ape. That God would have created me out of gold or a perfect diamond or evolved me from an angel, at the very least!

If that's where you are going. Then go please take it up with my supposed Creator. I, can only aspire. And the very first step to that is to understand, correctly, which is what I am showing here.

solite3:
Hello badatuum, don't misquote the scripture

Luke 10:25-28 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

take note: Jesus said in order to have life do what is in the law.
to love God is to keep his laws.

to love God is to keep his commandments

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

And how does one love one's Lord one's God with all one's heart, and with all one's soul, and with all one's strength, and with all one's mind so that one gains eternal life? Is it not by simply being on the 'right, and not the 'left'?

Perhaps we listen to how it's put in Matthew, for there, Jesus himself is supposed to be telling you!


”34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

I have not bothered to highlight any particular part of it so you can consider the relevance of every single letter!

bloodofthelamb:
budaatum, sincerely search your heart and see if have been a good Samaritan all the time. And are you observing all that David wrote about who will dwell in God's holy hill?

I do not need to search in my heart! No, of course I have not been a Good Samaritan nor observed what David wrote, all the time, nor even most of the time if at all!

I used to tell a friend of mine, a Christian, who used to go on about "love your neighbour", to stop being a hypocrite. One Christmas Eve, we sat down eating dinner of various cheeses for starter, roast leg of lamb for main, fruit salad with honey and cream for dessert and two bottles of wine to assist it all go down, when he brought it up again. I asked him if I should go down the road, a 10 minute walk, and go invite Crew so we can love him, after all, he is our neighbour, albeit homeless, stinky and 10 minutes away. My friend said "No"!

Crew happens to be a smelly alcoholic begger who lives on the street and whom I had begged a cigarette off sometime in the past and which he gave to me, surprised that I would ask him for one, and whom that very Christmas Eve I had given £20 to on my way from work.

I told my friend that if I were in Lagos, and were to go loving my neighbours as he is asking me to, but how he himself cannot, I would never leave my house because before I got to the busstop, my pockets would be empty because I would have given all I had to the many beggars and 'have less than mes' that I would surely meet on the road!

But one's failure to not live up to the standard does not entitle one to lower the standard or make out that standard was not even set to begin with. Those who give a damn will aspire!

AnambraDota:
is that why most houses in Ibadan don't have toilets?

So, cretins like you exist on here! I didn't know o. Guess it's been a while I looked in a cesspit.

[quote author= post=70260289].........and an eleven year old is Nigeria is being taught A computer is an electronic device bla bla bla........!![/quote]That's a lie! Last time I checked, eleven year olds were being taught "Jesus is Lord" , "Mary born am", Mohammed is the only Prophet", and "al ha akbar".

My checking was done in Osun State where teachers had not been paid for months, note.

israelmao:
Has man has ever made a useful and tangible impact at a sleeping state?

Yes now! Some have had some amazingly fantastic dreams while asleep, and have gone on to influence the world when they awoke. But you see it's effect more when people lack sleep. They become grumpy, agitated, and easily irritated. Imagine how better the world would have been if Hitler had slept more. He wouldn't have been awake plotting to exterminate all those millions he did!

And finally, a reasoned voice!

Senator Misau carpets Buhari’s aide for linking Saraki with EFCC, warns presidency
Chairman, Senate Committee on Navy, Senator Isa Hamma Misau, has stated that the Presidency should be ashamed that it is pushing the conspiracy script that top officials of the nation’s security apparatus are working for the Senate President, Bukola Saraki.

Meanwhile, and from the same site, on 13 August, after Saraki had left the Presidency's party:


EFCC DENIES CONSPIRING WITH SARAKI AGAINST BUHARI
Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) has denied claims made by President Buhari’s aide that it plotted with Senate President Bukola Saraki to freeze Benue’s State bank accounts.

maestroferddi:
Are you that daft?

Why ignore the issue being raised just to indulge in kai-kai induced hallucinations?

Because I found it pertinent and wanted to, doh.

Are you daft? Do I need your approval for my opinion?

OreMI22:
Are their names hidden?

Prof Soyinka was just being modest not to name the victims.

Modest? Which kind yeye be that?

Soyinka should behave like his certificate is not from Oluwole! If he has evidence he should produce it or shut the fuq up! There's quite a few of us who'd be happy to petrol and tyre that disgrace of an Obj, but we'd rather do it on some truth instead of cooked up unverified talk.

If you catch Obj with meat in his mouth, he's prepared to swear it is water knowing nobody dare tell him to "Open your mouth, Obj, let me check for myself"!

maestroferddi:
Can you pause for a moment to imagine how 2015 could have played out if Jonathan had appointed a loyal Ijaw man as the Chairman of INEC?

Nigerians would have lynched Jonathan, his Ijaw INEC Chairman, and probably every other Ijaw person they could find.

Not that Ijaw people had anything to do with it, but have you so quickly forgotten all those Ghana must goes that just kept going?

blacknp:
Lazy Dawg be waiting for President Buhari to come and put jollof rice and grilled spiced chicken on your table with 1 big stout, Useless Digital Almajiri.

I love you!

israelmao:
APC is sleepwalking and I hope it will regain consciousness soonest.

Sleepwalking into Sai Buh!
The kind of walking sleep to enjoy!

amaniro:
am not even Yoruba, neither am I from osun.
well this election would be tough .What I think about them all ;
Omisore divulged a lot and he is desperate, he will end up being clueless. Though he does grassroots governance.
Oyetola will be an ATM machine for tinubu and his accomplice , end up eating osun money, but will have federal power.
Ademola seems to be occupying two positions, well some governors too. Ademola will be for the people since he is related to davido that brings enough frame and prestige.
PS am from Abia state

Abia State is Igbo land. Ademola's mother is Igbo. And we have a lot of Igbo's in Osun, so he might get their vote. If not for his fake school, I too would be behind him completely, pdp or not.

Please, not all we Yorubas are bigoted people who stupidly think other tribes people are not human beings. We all should "human beings, Nkwenu!" At least in Osun State!

Mujtahida:
You don't seem to get the simple point I am making: in the absence of a rebuttal by Obasanjo, Soyinka scales high on the graph of believability.

I do get the simple point you are making. On your "graph of believability", Soyinka weighs more than Obj because he spoke first and baring any counter, while on my "graph of believability" they both measure the same, despite my very strong bias against Obj and barring much more evidence either ways.

My perception just differs to your's Mujtahida. Probably for reasons I stated in my previous et al.

amaniro:
The way am seeing, omisore is worst he looks like lacks idea and self worth. Oyetola is related to the crook called tinubu, ademola is already a senator..... so you decide!

You're not being very helpful, are you. I too think Omisore is a thief. Buharist that I am, I dislike his bedmate Tinubu and anyone in his pocket. That too was O-useless's fault, and what made him crooked. So Oyetola is out by association.

I'm going to look into Ademola, but isn't he the one who never finished secondary school?

My dear Osun people, we are doomed!

Mujtahida:
For now Soyinka appears right.

Your perception. And I can only say I am very jealous of your perceptual abilities! I myself need more than that to accept such appearances, as my eyes are perhaps not as capable of seeing as good as your's seem to do..

Mujtahida:
The first to state is case appears right until another person comes and cross examines him (proverbs 17:18).

I don't think I like your proverbs 17:18! It makes me wonder about those who die before they get to present their case!

My Proverbs 17:18 says: A man void of understanding striketh hands, and becometh surety in the presence of his friend.

My 18:17 is close though: In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right, until someone comes forward and cross-examines.

A person might indeed "seem" right because they spoke first, but I was told, and have since confirmed, that the person who speaks first might be biased or have an agenda or be lying or I might be stupid and not have understood correctly, and there's that imperfect perception of mine that often gets in the way making things "seem" as they aren't.

It it hence that I am rather strongly advised to not be too quick to judgement running off with half a story, and must come forward and cross-examine to have both sides of an argument to consider before I decide. It is also what I understand my 18:17 to be saying, by the way, and not how you seem to take it - advise to believe the first speaker!

I like more evidence before I go about claiming it is true that "Obasanjo gave oil fields for sex", is my point, despite what the Bible or Soyinka may say, even though I strongly dislike that stupid Ota man. And would like you to to be aware of this particular fault in me going forward (assuming this might be one of many engagements between us), that if you ever make such assertions on the evidence as we have here, I am likely to not accept it as valid, or the truth.

Your time has been most highly appreciated.