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Mouthgag:He has not finished the Gbongan-Osogbo Road which he started. Maybe he is coming back to complete it. Abi O-useless don do am? |
amaniro:See trouble o. I am Sai Buhari but I can't support anything to do with that O-useless Aregbe in my state. And when I think of this Omisore, my belle de jus hurt. Who person go vote now? Help me, people! |
Call me watefa u want Labe me howefa u like We all know dats wat losers do! Wetha na only me de vote o We shall see when Sai Bu 9ja 2019! |
hopefulLandlord:Don't mind Dalaman! He did not sow, now he's not reaping and he's happy! If you too had sown, Dalaman, would you not be reaping what hopefulLandlord is reaping? |
Mujtahida:I am not a lawyer, so my choice of words might not be technical, even though some has rubbed off from dad who was. We were discussing the "truth" of the assertions, and uncontested does not mean they are true. Soyinka wins in tort court if Obasanjo does not contest. But Obasanjo is still not deemed to have committed the crimes asserted against him in the eyes of the law. And the law does not, as far as I know sit on the pages of a newspaper. Obasanjo has to drag this case to tort court for the first instance to apply. And EFCC or the Attorney General has to drag him to Criminal court for the second. Though, I am wondering if Soyinka has any basis to instigate proceedings. I hope he does, and should. |
Jman06:After all, one's neighbour could be from a different race or religion, but Christ said "love them" regardless. |
lawjjj:Thank you. Nor simply believing, as quite a few seem to think. One can love ones God and ones neighbour in one's thought, but if one's actions belie those thoughts, Christ is missing in that person. |
Mujtahida:I agree. And the case for defamation is thrown out, and Soyinka can further sue for legal expenses incurred. However, "it is not that simple" (sorry). Obasanjo's non-counter does not imply guilt. He can't be considered to have been found to be guilty (or to have pleaded guilty) before the law of any crime asserted by Soyinka on the above basis. A criminal court would not say the previous uncontested case implies guilt. |
P.s. I might have gone off topic some but....... |
asuustrike2009:What is wrong with you Christians? Why can't you just say that God never said he will help those who do no work and that those who think God will do all the work for them are in error and need educating, so help them God please? Are there not numerous chapters and verses you can quote to prove this point and in effect that op is strawmanning you? Is "Love you neighbour" "do no work and sit down and pray till Kingdom comes"? A Christian, or anyone, who does no work is an unshinning deadbeat dwelling in darkness they themself's have created! They are lamps with no electric, and like maggi that has lost it's magginess, if they ever had any that is, and despite all their "Lord! Lords!" they will gnash on their teeth till they chew on their gums! |
So, if they steal the land and houses of Palestinians, drive them into a ghetto, make them landlocked and blow them up for throwing stones at them, we should continue to support Israel because they provided you with a book that has written in it that "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God" ? Now I know where the motive for "belief" comes from. It's so some may refuse to use the head and brain the Lord their Gods gave some. I'm so grateful people did not think this way when blacks in South Africa were under Apartheid, or when the entire Africa was enslaved I just wish people would consider what would have happened to their so much loved Jews if people hadn't risen up to protect them when they were the persecuted. I'm sure we'd be finding chapter and verse in the same book to justify wiping them off the face of the earth. The whole of Deuteronomy 28 would probably do. "The LORD shall cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you will go out one way against them, but you will flee seven ways before them, and you will be an example of terror to all the kingdoms of the earth. "Your carcasses will be food to all birds of the sky and to the beasts of the earth, and there will be no one to frighten them away. Lord please, come soon and give my people sense! |
Mujtahida:Unchallenged and uncontroverted assertions in a newspapers, Mujtahida? Isn't that the equivalent of me calling someone a thief in the market and our jungle justice of tyre and petrol? Below is an example of what is true. It is much more than assertions in a paper! If this does not get before a judge, no subsequent judge on earth would accept Soyinka's current assertions as evidence of validity! This is what happened in the case below! In M/V GONGOLA HOPE V. SMURFIT CASES LTD. (2007) 15 NWLR 189 |
Mujtahida:That is simply untrue. And no, atheism gives me no special qualification. I mention it to let you know how I consider evidence. But back on topic. Anyone can assert anything they want and as much as they want but that does not make it true. Nor does an assertion become true because one does not challenge it! You could tell a lie, for instance, and I might refuse to respond to it, but that does not make your lies the truth Obasanjo may sue Soyinka for libel, and I truly wish he would, though I'm not holding my breathe. It is indeed a dare, and if he sued, a can of worms would open up and we'd know the truth instead of being left to believe whatever we wished to. And if Obasanjo gave oil wells to people for whatever reason than is justifiable, we'd at least all know for certain that Obasanjo is a crook, and we'll get them back. But if I were Soyinka, and had proof that he did as he claims, you wouldn't be reading this in a paper. I would consider it my duty to drag Obasanjo to court myself and take back our goddamn oil well from the thieving lying bastard! It would show others they wouldn't get away with doing the same thing. I'll wait and see who blinks on this. |
Glycolysis:Don't you bother wondering why I engage in such discussions. But if you care to, it's because quite a lot of people seem to have been misled as you are and it negatively affects everyone. One just need see the hellish nation we have created through our ill-considered beliefs. Just know that even though the response is to yours, ones words are like seeds. If they are good, they will fall on willing hearts and grow and produce fruit abundantly. And if they are no good, they will wither and die. Those who do the will of the Lord are forever strengthened and shall never tire. |
Mujtahida:That is not how it works in the climes I live in. If you make defamatory accusations against me. I may drag you to court where you'd be require to provide evidence for your allegations, or recant and pay me damages. The only "justification that is valid is evidence in support of your claims, and not, you "think I did" or " probably did" what you alledge! But even if I don't drag you to court, it doesn't mean what you say is in any way true. And anyone who thinks it is on that basis is, well, not an evidence requiring atheist like I am, I guess. In Nigeria, considering the ineptitude if our legal system, one can easily see why most would not bother suing. It is a reform that nation needs. |
The question Jesus was answering was very clear. "What must I do to inherit eternal life?” So I don't know what I don't understand about it! Is there any more "salvation" than eternal life, Glycolysis? I know what the problem is here. You can't accept that an atheist could possibly enter 'God's Kingdom'. And you assume knowledge you clearly don't have, despite thinking you do. So you think writing epistles would help you prove your point, when in fact your words just show how little you actually know and understand. Or is it not the truth that if buda said she was a Christian you would easily agree with what she says? If you but thought of it, did Jesus not actually come to open the door for you Gentiles to receive "salvation" and enter the "Holy Tabernacle"? Or are you not aware that according to the Israelites, you were not going to heaven unless you were one of them before Jesus came to show you the way, and so you don't get confused, even wrote it in blood? Yet, here we are committing the same error he taught against over and over again, while claiming we have "experience of sanctification & Holy spirit baptism", "sincerity of heart & wiliness" (sic), and buda is an atheist who is going to hell! Please continue believing the Jesus the Way is what you believe it is. There is however a teaching against assumptions. It goes something like "thank you lord that I am not like that buda over there". It ends with a clear warning "Those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Amen. Do note that my questions here are all rhetorical. You need not tell me the answers to any of them. So don't break your decision to ignore buda and "not even respond to her mentions" , please. Glycolysis: |
Mujtahida, I just got this sent to me. Nobel laureate Prof. Wole Soyinka, calling former President Olusegun Obasanjo, a degenerate, liar, predator and sadist, has challenged him to swear whether he never awarded oil blocks in return for sexual gratification while he presided over the affairs of Nigeria. Obasanjo awarded oil blocks for sex, says Wole Soyinka In "other climes" , would Soyinka (a man I highly respect though I'm now reconsidering), not be dragged to court for defamation of Obasanjo's character (for whom I have no regard whatsoever), and fined heavily if he can't prove what he's claimed is true? But in the upside down Nigeria climes, see how he can make any unproven accusations he wants and ask the person he accused to come and prove him wrong! I'd bet, sometime down the line, someone would drag this up and tell me to see how corrupt Obasanjo was and expect me to accept it because "respected Soyinka" said it! |
Mujtahida:No, you must not concede for the sake of argument! You are doing me no favour in letting me continue to deceive myself, if that is what I'm doing. And consider too those who might just take my word for it, and whom I might be leading astray! You must check, and confirm please, for my perception might be wrong. However, and for the sake of making a point. Atiku, for instance, and in my opinion, has no integrity whatsoever. Would our nation not be worse if he was President? Is a head with a bit of integrity not much better that one with none? |
harmbhrosz:You must think government is mumu! Why should anybody be trusted with plenty if they have not proven themselves worthy with small? First, show that you will not squander small, then plenty will be given unto thee! |
Butterflyle0:It don't matter how slowly they read, you should know by now that people don't often see what is there, but make up things in their heads and call it "reality". It's why someone I've read of took mud, spat on it and rubbed it in their eye! When the mud itch their eye will they not rub it clean so they will see? Give some of them 100k and they wouldn't pay back one kobo, so see Government wisely testing them with 10k in an attempt to separate the wheat from the chaff. Those who do good will be blessed even more, and those who don't do good will have all they have taken from them and they will be thrown into the blazing furnace of poverty where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth! |
Glycolysis:And I don't recall any good deeds of the Pharisees and Saddicees, except for a tiny few. I do recall Jesus calling them hypocrites and vipers, and accusing them of giving stones instead of bread and following the "letter of the law" , and not it's "spirit". Anyone not aware of these distinctions might want to consider that they themselves might be following the path they laid out too, and not the narrow path of salvation! |
Glycolysis:A lot, actually. And yes, me again! The Samaritan was considered the least likely to be accepted by God, which is why Jesus specifically chose a Samaritan to put his point across. If he was telling that parable to Christians today, he probable would have chosen a Muslim or an atheist, or anyone else some think would never find favour in God's eye. The Priest after all, loved his God, as did the Levite, while the Samaritan worshipped an idol! And what question was he illustrating again? “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” You might also want to read the response to David's question: Lord, who may dwell in your sacred tent? Who may live on your holy mountain? |
Glycolysis:The [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&version=NIV]Parable of the Good Samaritan[/url] answers your question. |
lawjjj:Make that YES a bit bigger please, so people might get it. I think you meant 1 Corinthians 13 In fact, go as far as considering that "Jesus Christ" is a spiritual way of saying, 'Love'. |
Yes, my perception. And I was this very morning explaining to ma that it is an error commonly made for one to claim that how one sees things is how things actually are. We argued this over in the religious section where some people claim their perception is reality. Unfortunately, it's an error very common in us humans, and I am especially guilty as charged. I may be ignorant for instance, or biased, or blind! I sure am smart enough to select and present only information that supports my position. But you'd find I don't bother much. People are way too smart to be fooled by my selectivity! And I'll look foolish when I get busted. Ignorance, in my opinion, is what makes corruption possible, for example. People are corrupt because they think its the only way to achieve their goals. The solution is to teach them the proper way to achieve goals. But then they have to not be ignorant in choosing goals so they have to be taught that too, and probably first. And when we're talking about the millions or so Nigerians, we're talking a whole heaps load of educating, which would take a generation or two. But I bet you have something else in mind regarding the causes of corruption. Nepotism, did you call it? You have a different perception on it, perhaps. And perceivably more valid than mine maybe. But there you go, different perceptions. We all have one. In case it's not perceived by you, "my brother" is part of who we are, rather unfortunately. When I get into some office, everyone in the Orolu Kingdom would come begging for a job, and I will employ some of them, including my uncle's uneducated son who would not be satisfied if I make him my driver instead of 'Special Adviser for Transport, with a business card and all! And if I tell him his driving license is fake (it actually is!), I should expect to be attending the next Orolu Kingdom family meeting where the item on the agenda would be my failure to be nepotic. And ignorant people would inform me that I should promptly mend my ways or be labelled a bastard! We will someday engineer that nonsense out of our dna, but the truth is, we haven't even begun yet. And accusing Buhari of it is denying everyone else who is equally culpable. One correction. Not "Mr Integrity". But "Mr Much More Integrity Than Most Others". Mujtahida: |
zicoraads:The youth can democratically protest. You just ain't hungry enough yet, and the older people are washing your brains. Educate yourselves. Chose some younger people. Campaign to have them elected. Emancipate yourselves! |
Mujtahida:I am disappointed that Kemi's nysc is not at least being investigated. My opinion, expressed on here somewhere, is that if she did fake it, then she might be faking other things, like cheques to steal our money, and for that reason, should be investigated, and if found in the wrong, prosecuted, and if found guilty, made to pay the fine. In "other climes" , she would have resigned already. Whenever I'm in Nigeria, however, I am constantly informed that I can't be local government chairman, not that I intend to, mind. They tell me that when Kabiyesi tells me to bring the allocation, "let us share it" , or when the governor demands 90% be returned to the party, you will be talking oyinbo, say "that's not how it's done in other climes!" "Buda! This is not 'other climes'! Dis na Naija!" They inform me. As much as I wish we were better, we are not living by the rules of other climes! You will forgive me when I say I don't have idealic expectations where Nigeria is concerned! Nor do I expect perfection from Buhari. But he is better, in my opinion, than the alternatives. |
Mujtahida:I read this. It's not journalism by the way. Just someone's view of things. Your link doesn't work by the way. But that's besides the point. https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/amplite/adeosun-s-nysc-certificate-is-as-fake-as-buhari-s-integrity-260912.html Please know something about me. I am an atheist, the sort who doesn't tend to believe. By that, I mean I need evidence. And what you've presented above does not cut it for me. The following is from an interview of Buhari 6 years ago. You remember a missing 2.8b naira, Fela sang about? How did that issue come about? What happened and how did you feel during that period?Newspaper cuttings is not evidence, and that's what you presented above. At least by quality! |
Mujtahida:Don't waste your energy pitying me. There's people out there much more deserving of it than me. |
Mujtahida:I am from Osun State. Aregbesola is APC. My opinion is that he is the most corrupt governor my state has ever had so I'm praying daily that he does not win! Though, I'm glad he wouldn't be running again, and is going for something in Alimosho. But that's my local government in Lagos! And Alimosho's population is even bigger than Osun State. And remember I said he's APC. God please let him O-lose! The man is O-useless! Nigeria is not run by one person. If Buhari was the dictator he was when he was the head of state, these looters would be serving 200 year prison sentences! But na democrazy we dey now. He can't just be throwing people in jail without due process, to my utter chagrin, and as much as I prefer democracy! Democracy is small small. Anyone who knows how money was missing under Jonathan knows it's not missing like that now. Or have you read of similar excesses like we experienced then? Just go on the street and see how people who have no jobs are crying of hunger! Were these jobless people not shouting "rankadede" for their food and eating under Jonathan? Should they be eating if they are not doing anything? Abi "rankadede" na job? Is their starving not evidence that there can't possibly be as much theft as there used to be? Nigeria is like a huge ocean going tanker. If you want to turn it round, you'd travel far to slow down before you begin to turn, and even for turning you'd travel miles! Anyone who thinks Buhari is their saviour must starve! He is not going to fix everything, but under him I don't see Nigeria getting as bad as it was getting before he got there. And that pleases me. He is not perfect, but I've seen worse. And I know which thief I prefer. After all if I were to chose between two thieves entering my house, barring other options, I'd go for the one who steals the least! Please, don't worry about insulting me. There's a lot at stake here and passions must run high so hit me hard please. If you don't it's because you don't care, and I hope you do! I swear, if I find I am as ignorant as you claim, one day my eyes will open and I will come to let you know you told me so. |
Yes, it is advanced "two onions and a loaf of bread" that is intended to buy the votes of the masses. It's what Nigerians understand, and I'm glad Buhari has stooped so low to pander to their ignorance. I would be very annoyed if he wasn't doing absolutely everything possible to ensure he wins this election. I'm drawing a line and saying it now so everyone knows I have. If PMB loses this coming election and anyone says pdp rigged it that person is a fool! If PMB rigs election I hope the courts decide against him and kick him out! |
Butterflyle0:Can't stand you in the religious section! Here though? You're on the right side (and I'm not claiming you were on the wrong side there, just that we don't see the same way there!) But if one sits over there arguing whether there's a God or not when there's work to be done here, God gan must vex that one refuses to do God's work over here, atheist or not! |
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that is salvation not your religious ceremonies or reverence to any deity(john 4:22-23)
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