Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 8:04pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
jerflakes:
 I agree. How dare anyone ask you to explain! Thanks for being the first to respond. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 7:56pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: God differs from god. And that is your view. Thank you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 7:53pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Thanks ojaare. I intimated a similar sentiment earlier too
Bud, is the site down? I lost connection 10 mins or so ago and haven't since been able to successfully load the Web page I lost connection too. Got an unusual timeout! It will be back soon. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 7:52pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
plaetton: Pls understand my point. He is using the wrong phrases. That's what I am trying to point out to him.
If you don`t believe in the existence of something, you cannot write definitively about that thing. However, you are very free to write about the prevailing Ideas or the prevailing Notions of that thing as it effects the society, humanity, or how such Ideas or Notions have evolved over the eons of human History . I agree. Even the question itself was wrong, according to some. So say your bit, or not, and be done. Some will learn from it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 7:37pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Emmanystone: What or who is God? Answer the one that best puts your position across please. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 7:34pm On Feb 21, 2018*. Modified: 9:21pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: That guy is like a pit bull on Flakka. He only sees what he wants to see and barks in disobedience to training instructions.
You have a huge hill to climb with him. Is this you refereeing, or stoking the flames? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 7:33pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Point of correction The fact that one does not believe in a thing does not limit one from expressing an opinion about that thing, provided one knows about the thing. It does not even have to exist before you can have an opinion about the thing. plaetton: Point of correction sir. If you neither believe in the existence of the Toothfairy nor Santa Claus, then you can only write or express opinion about the IDEAS or beliefs being peddled about Santa Clause and the Toothfairy . I don`t see how you can offer a definitive analysis of something whose existence is unproven.
If you keep trying to get a comparison of Capital letter god and small letter god, you are taking them from the realm of being mere Mental Projections , and projecting them as actual things that can be objectively observed, classified and analyzed ,.which they are not. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 7:32pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
What do you mean by "why is your position that there aren't any....." The question is "What is god? There is no reason why plaetton must justify his or her position! Unless he or she wants to. MuttleyLaff: With all due respect, the subject of discussion is God, variant of gods plus comparing and contrasting them with each other.
No one on the thread, has specified that the write up be done in relation to "religion"
Supposing I don't believe in tooth fairies, Santa Claus etcetera doesn't in the slightest, hinder me in writing all I know and understand about any of them
Your interesting take, that there is no difference between god, capital or small letter, and the Toothfairy has been taken on board but why is your position that there aren't any difference between god, with capital first letter g and lowercase first letter g? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 5:49pm On Feb 21, 2018*. Modified: 10:30pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Gods are human constructs (entities, ideas) that people use to explain existence to themselves and others. I make no distinction between small letter 'g' god and capital letter 'g' god, except that some, if not most people elevate their god above everyone else's god and like to refer to it as a capital letter 'g' god. I have posted a list of different gods here. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God? by budaatum(op): 1:34pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
I like the fact you are all requiring a definition of the axiomatic question "what is god". Goes to show that what may be self evident to some may not be self evident to others. Please do not limit yourselves to any number of legs on the stool. Put as many on it as puts your response across as you wish. There are no limits. As MuttleyLaff Said: MuttleyLaff: "
Exhaustively and to the best of your understanding, do it Dont hold back, dont pull punches, give both your best shot, like as if your life depended on it. With the full force of all your understanding, smash both, with examples and/or explanations, that blows them out of this world. |
TV/Movies › Re: The 11 Times Marvel's "Black Panther" Depicted African Culture Perfectly by budaatum: 6:06pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Articul8: See them telling our own story better than we do. We even believe and embrace their own story better than we say it ourselves.
'Africa has no history except the one the West wrote for us'. SMH Nothing stops you writing yourstory. Write a goodenoughstory and we'd even junk the otherstories. Thisstory is a goodstory, for what it is. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is A Religion by budaatum: 5:04pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
vaxx: wait , let him define table. he will overlap himself. he will realized what it term as table may not be table to you or me....logically, we will all have subjective definition
this is why socrate was very wrong when he said we should seek for absolute truth .....there is no absolute truth anywhere....only GOD IS THE TRUTH...... Are you asking him to prove a self evident axiom perhaps? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Rev. Stennett Kirby Of Church Of England Caught Sniffing Cocaine, Watching Porn by budaatum: 4:06pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
slurity1: The story did not call him a pastor but Rev Pastor, Revered, Vicar. Same difference. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Rev. Stennett Kirby Of Church Of England Caught Sniffing Cocaine, Watching Porn by budaatum: 4:04pm On Feb 20, 2018*. Modified: 5:41pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
kabarka: Talk am very well. Church of England is Anglican. however, nigerian anglican church has officially removed themselves from the body, that is why they bear:Church of Nigeria,Anglican Communion. I am not Anglican,if am wrong somebody should tell me. They synod together, so are the same Anglican body. |
Christianity Etc › What Is God? by budaatum(op): 9:18pm On Feb 19, 2018 |
This question was asked of me by MuttleyLaff here. I have created a thread for it to share it with others who may not wish to derail John's Gospel. His question has provoked thought in me and I believe it would provoke thought in you too. So, no knee jerks please. Think before you respond. What is God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 8:59pm On Feb 19, 2018 |
ReinaFarine: How do we test for something in chemistry? I actually dropped chemistry in hundred level. But I still remember the basics. Test, observation and inference. True?
For us to prove seun exists as human and created nairaland forum, we first have to state who a human is. What are the characteristics/properties that distinguishes human from everything else? If seun possesses these properties, then he is human. It differentiates from the Theory or System of God. Everybody has a different Idea of who a god or God is suppose to be. Thanks for this contribution. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Challenge You!!! by budaatum: 3:20pm On Feb 19, 2018*. Modified: 8:06pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
danvon: I Challenge you to think of your worst enemy (if I could use that word) on nairaland.... Are you done yet? Try promoting his/her belief system for a change take the persons perspective (be convincing)
Let's see which faith has the highest amount of ignorant believers. I chose the love of my nl life, and not as my worst enemy. His belief system in incoherent so I can't really do him convincingly. But it would go something like: Atheist says: "There is a God. Jesus is his only Son".
Love of my nl life: "Liar. What good has atheism ever done anybody? Have you not seen the 22 year study that says swimming pools have invisible water? Atheists will burn in hell!"
Christian Believer says: "There is a God. Jesus is his only Son".
Love of my nl life: "You and others here are doing a great job of bringing superior truths into hell. May the supreme power of the HOLY SPIRIT protect you all from the dark forces directed at you as a result of sharing the greatest truth mankind will ever know."
That's why I love him! |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Question Directed To The Atheist by budaatum: 2:55pm On Feb 19, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: FSM is the one true God.
Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Olodumare etc are created by FSM's creations O Hail, The Mighty FSM, Creator of all that Exists, And Pasta. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Question Directed To The Atheist by budaatum: 2:51pm On Feb 19, 2018 |
FOLYKAZE: I am very skeptical when it comes to African spiritual system. Maybe it is because I am born in a society where almost every turn or houses has at least one or two shrine. Somethings too personal had happened that made me give them benefit of doubt. Well, I cannot explain these occurrences or manifestation they put on display, I believe there are some knowledge that covers manipulation of natural forces.
However, I have met some 'working boys' in Ondo town. I have personally engaged them and they confessed that their shrine is 'stage', meaning everything in there is put on display to defraud unsuspecting victims. They have guys on the street who are their eye, ears and tongue. These guys know your problems and approaches you that they have a priest who can resolve it. The end of the game is to swindle you of your cash which those boys get payback for. One thing that frighten me is that these boys are in àwo fraternity. We call them babalawo abuja. So most times, I do not believe there is any magic or ritual or whatever. Many of these guys are in police custody, you can do your own investigation.
Despite all that has been mentioned above, there are mamy things I cannot explain which some priest do. I do not want to speak for atheists here but they can consult those babas through a referral like family or adult friends.
There are traditions, with a strong tie in every person and family. One can only get the real picture through proper consultation. Go out there, ask those Babas to give you 'stuff' for test, they will willingly give it out for free. Arguing on cyberspace will not yield any tangible result. Atheism or not, there are some mind blowing spiritual feats, real or not, has anyone experienced these form. Argument ia unnecessary, if anyone doubt, that person should go out and experience it before talking about it. Does anyone remember a post where someone invited us to go and see his yahoo boys in Ife? Thank you for this post FOLYKAZE. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Of John - A Study by budaatum(op): 1:57pm On Feb 19, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Describe, the nouns God and god(s) with god(s), as in, being all you understand a god to be Explain in details, with as much examples, you can muster what god and God is I actually tried to respond to this, but found I was unable to make a graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above. Gods, however (least my above sounds evasive) are human constructs used to explain existence to one another. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Of John - A Study by budaatum(op): 12:14pm On Feb 19, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: If Jesus said to Nicodemus, it takes one having a spirit renewal or spirit re-birth, to see and recognise the kingdom of God He said, except born from above, one cant accept the truth of nor admit the existence of the kingdom of God If one isnt, then such one, will rubbish, ridicule, make fun of, poke fun at, make jokes about, scoff at, be sarcastic about the kingdom of God Such one not born from above, will take the mickey out of demonstrations & power of the kingdom of God That does sound prettey much like we atheists lol. All you stated is what we do! We are not born from above. MuttleyLaff: If Weh done Sir, this is so spaghetti messy. You're all over place, you cut corners and so ended up with a muddled mess summary of John Chapter Three You are and/or were just like a chameleon dropped in a bag of skittles Do note that I will be messy, all over the place, muddled, cut corners etc, and perhaps, and unfortunately, chameleon like in a bag of skittles (hopefully, the "man against son" type, and not the "wolf in sheep skin" sort). For I bring only wheat. Others will bring the yeast, salt, sugar, etc and then perhaps we shall bake bread. And if we're fortunate, someone will bring fish too and we shall be fed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Of John - A Study by budaatum(op): 11:48am On Feb 19, 2018*. Modified: 1:59pm On Feb 19, 2018 |
Emmanystone: To say the truth, i saw this thread, but ignored it because i still held the thought that you were who i suspected you were. I don't really read your posts until you quoted me in 'S.eun Does Not Exist' thread. Then it dawned on me that, the guy i suspected you were lacked the stamina and the intellectual capacity you have to engage in a discourse as long as you did consistently and coherently.
Most of your atheists brethren here only just throw jibes and insults, but when held down in a consistent and coherent discourse they run off, spitting invectives as they go. So, i just decided to ignore them.
I'm sorry i didn't take you seriously before now. I will follow up here so as to get into your mind more and see what makes you thick. lolzzz. Whatever clothes a spirit wears, it is identified by its fruits. Welcome to the thread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 11:51pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: You guys are doing great. There seems to be an innocent misunderstanding of BudaAtums brilliant argument due to poor environmental conditions. " innocent misunderstanding"!?! There is nothing innocent in deliberately being dishonest! Don't make me come over there and kick your ass with your useless platitudes, loverboy. And stop giving him excuses for not seeing my point! He can't see it if he covers his eyes and you are not helping him by being dishonest! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 11:44pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Lolzzz. What shd we go with then? O, it's bad enough being detested for being an atheist so I'm non-gender specific on forums, and generally non-personal except for my pdas for my gnat I guess. You just stick to buda. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 10:59pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
Emmanystone: You said you were a big girl and can take anything in one of your posts here.
***Anyways, moving on*** I've been a big boy too! Lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 10:49pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Now, i remember saying, 'I think i know who are'.. I didn't say I knew who you were explicitly.
I suspected you were a male and an alt moniker, but i just read you here saying you are female, meaning you are not the person, except otherwise.
Sorry. These guys dump old monikers and pick up new ones rapidly, we try to keep up by observing their mannerisms, how they react and respond to peole.
And you indeed sounded like an old moniker here. P.s. I never said I am female! And I am a sort of old moniker here. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 10:47pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
Its okay, and I have no problem with it. Just that it reminded me of when you said something similar about buda. Thanks for the elaboration though. Emmanystone: You obviously don't know why i said it's an old moniker. You shd have asked why.
Check his profile, he registered it last month, but he knows my old handle which has been out of use for a long time. If he were new here, he wouldn't know that handle.
To begin with, when he began his insults, i never said anything to him to set him off, i only laughed at his response to someone else, that got him so enraged he began insulting my private parts as if he has no female in his family with the same part.
Well, i fully understand his plight and leave him to his lot. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 10:45pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
It's too late to move the conversation! And not for you to answer my question, you dishonest gnat! At least you reminded me what I love about you. Lol ScienceWatch: My response to you now will have no value seeing that you said "it is too late." I will note this and respond at the appropriate time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 10:25pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Do you know what I admire about the amazing dialogue between you and VAXX? No one is trying to simply score points. You both are engaging a very complex problem. There is too much distraction here. Agree to created a new topic exclusively for this. Following. It's too late, and a great pity. I even considered copying the posts to a new thread, but that would be taking it out of the context of the posts that surround it. No worries though. Vaxx and I will return to this in the future. That however is no reason for not answering my question! Can you point out how my reaction to vaxx differs to yours? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 10:20pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Lol, funny enough, i only just noticed this buda moniker in this thread, and i really doubt if i have quoted or mentioned before(?). So, pls point me to where i said that. Oh, you have. Not on this thread though. But sorry, it would not be good use of my time to go dig up what you wrote as it would involve you taking up my valuable time. A hint though. You said something like "I think I know who you are", to which I, laughed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 9:58pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
Emmanystone: See? It is an old person hiding behind a new moniker registered only last month, yet he knows Analice who hasn't been used for over 6 months.
Demons possessed everywhere. You are so fond of making these sort of statements, I observe. Same way you claimed to know buda some time ago. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 9:48pm On Feb 18, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: When you said that "VAXX is walking towards us," I instinctively responded "Prove it." Now read the conversation below. It is what started this merry-go-round. Can you point out how my reaction differs to yours? vaxx: what if i say science evidence is rested on faith budaatum: I'll say, "explain yourself".
So, explain yourself please.
Vaxx, how is "Science evidence rested on faith"?. Now go back and see what I got, and which you seem to be supporting. |