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Emmanystone:
So, What happened? Did you step outside of yourself?
What did you see?

I have had one myself. I think mine was 'Out Of Body Experience', not Near Dead.

I went for a 6 hours (bone Transplant or grafting) surgery. I was told later that i regained conciousness while still on the table, so more Anaesthesia was pumped into me, i went down and went out.

I was brought out of the theater awaiting my coming to, but i didn't. The reaident doctor came for the Post.Op check only to find me still down, that was when he discovered i was out, but the Nurse by me didn't even know it.

I saw myself outside a sphere-like dome. Inside the dome where my folks and the medical team fighting to revive me. I saw everything they did and heard everthing they said. I heard the prayers my folks where praying outside the ward. I was seeing everything at once.

I heard the Doctor said to the Nurse, 'Is this how you'd have sat here and we loose her?'. I saw the Nurse crying. I saw her run to the Theatre to get an oxygen tank as the doctor instructed.

They were calling me, i heard them. I was there, but at the seem time very far from them. I answered very loudly for them to know i could hear them, they for n't need to shout, but they couldn't hear me.

I wanted to get back into the dome, but i couldn't. There was no enterance, no windows. I didn't know how i got out. My folks where crying and i needed to let them know I was fine. I felt very helpless seeing and hearing them, but they couldn't see or hear me. I wanted to back in by all means, but i couldn't.

I can't tell how i finally disappeared outside of the dome, i regained conciousness here.

I didn't see Jesus tho, i didn't see any light, but i saw myself outside of myself. I recognized myself outside of myself.

Guess what? Three days before that surgery, i dreamed it. I knew i was going to sink if i went into aurgery with serious prayer.

I was booked for that surgery, and as i got admitted, that night, i had that dream. The next day i called in the MD, (who hardly believed in God). i told him to give me three days before the surgery. He did. I fasted three days in that Hospital averting death.

If i didn't, Okpari, i for don die.

godisgood200:
Really? Thank God you didn't die o. At least i now have a chance to point you to Jesus.


Now, Buda, Repent for the Kingdom of God is here now

godisgood200:
We are just having a conversation nau. it's not justifying God at all. I can't even do it even if i wanted to.

I hardly even respond to atheists here, but i have been reading your posts and see you as level headed, hence,decided to gist small

godisgood200:
You said no one has died and come back? Do you say that because you disbelieve the testimonies of those who had died and come back or you sincerely serious?

I know a man by name Ali Sina. An IranianEx Muslim who left Islam and became an atheist. A very firece Atheist. He had a website 'www.Faithfreedom.org. Do you know how that man became a Christian? Testimonies of NEAR DEAD EXPERIENCES.

Neurotika:
Prisons are punitive elements used in ensuring punishment of moral breakdown. They are not a source of morality. It doesn't interpret to you the rightness or wrongness of an action.

butterflyl1on:
I thought you said you were more focused on what happens when one is dead and not after. Are you changing your stance?

soliq55:
There is a difference between dying and being dead. Dying is not a state of death but the pathway to the state of being dead. Unforunately, nobody knows definitively what happens when humans are in the state of being dead but dying can actually be observed and even quantified physiologically.

During the process of dying, depending on the severity and cause, the organs usually shut down one by one. It is not uncommon to hallucinate when the brain is in the process of shutting down. A common variable to to stories about people seeing heaven, God, Jesus, Allah and hell when they are in the process of dying is that it is culturally specific. For instance, a Yoruba man sees a Jesus that is black man wearing agabada speaking Yoruba, a white man sees Jesus in heaven wearing suit and tie. And so on.

These near death experiences are usually our brain repacking the data in our subconscious mind to give us images and even stories. Just because these pictures can be very vivid does not mean its true. It is the power of our unconscious mind.

The billion dollar advertisement industry are well aware of the power of the conscious and tap into this to make their fortune. For example, when you go to the grocery store, where I live there could be up to 20 different brands of cereal. Have you ever stopped and ask why you picked the one you chose instead of the other perfectly good brands of the same cereal within the same price range? Your subconcious mind told you to do so. It may be due to an advert of that cereal you've seen as far back as when you were 3 years old that affects your decision to chose it.

godisgood200:
Okay then.

God is the creator, the uncaused first Cause. The infinite, the supreme authority, sovereign over creation. The Only Potentate. Setting up Kingdoms and overthrowing empires. Rules in the armies of heaven, and monsgt the inhabitants of the earth, that no man can ask Him, 'What are you doing?'. His ways are unsearchable and judgements passed finding out.

He does as He pleases, only as He pleases.

He is the the sole determiner of all things, both men and beast. He determines which sperm cell from your father fertilized your moms Ovum and dtermined that all the other millions die.

He determines when and where you are born, your race, your gender and your colour.

He chose your parents, your siblings, He decides when you will die. If you can wrap your mind around this^^^^, then>>>>>>>>>>That is WHAT God is.

godisgood200:
You and your pattern of framing questions. You seem dishonest, no offence pls.

When you die, you you become manure for the plants, but what happens after you are dead should be the question.

Cute9gerian:
It's very possible that man himself can be very destructive, man have the power to destroy earth if so willing

keenn:
everyone wishes to know what would await him/her in the thereafter, even i myself will be glad to have a glimpse of it if it does exist.

this 'unknown' affect all mankind irrespective of believe or disbelieve and quite many faith have presented their own version, each to his own and this negate a misconception u made about atheist 'they fear death'... brother, that is a total misnomer, infact atheist care less

i have never in my life seen people fear afterlife that bad,they pray, fast, bind and cast, loose and release any other than religionist. films, pamphlet, dramas, pulpit sermons shares more about this.

i sometimes hope there is a God, but we wount be so much be arguing about it if truly he does, infact that lots of faiths and religions abound in a search for the unknown cast further light as who truly is this God or what is God.

no one argues about the sun or even gravity or air that we dont see. the argument is about a omni-omni, a God!
i mean, its so laughable. we are arguing if an almighty exist or not.

lastly, i sense a disbelieve in your writeup, your writing style is an atheist in making. for your good, avoid reading religious thread on here, lest u fall. i was once like u.

godisgood200:
If i ask you 'What is Budaatum', will that make sense to you?

sonofluc1fer:
Buda you remind me of an old dude by the name of vooks.

Neurotika:
If you pick Reasoning,why do we then need the gods to interpret morality to us?.

godisgood200:
What is God? As how? Is God a thing now?

Ferisidowu:
Oh really,,, you yourself don't believe in the nonsense you wrote up there

MuttleyLaff:
I think you already have alienated quite a few with your single line of enquiry question
Good luck with it

MuttleyLaff:
budaatum
Chat was closed at end of it, so couldnt post a message
Nice one
You were a worthy opponent
I have to, right now, step out

sonmvayina:
The Enuma ELISH is/was the first as far as record goes and shows. It proceeds the genesis accounts by thousands of years..

Emmanystone:
Meaning we are not having this conversation nau. If i ask a question which you feel are not obligated to answer, what then is the point of me getting into the convo. in the first place?

No shakes anyways. I must not be part of your thread.

butterflyl1on:
Alcoholics idolise alcohol or in this case, rum. To them it is a god. They do not have to literally call it a god but their actions towards it makes it a god.

Emmanystone:
Meaning we are not having this conversation nau. If i ask a question which you feel are not obligated to answer, what then is the point of me getting into the convo. in the first place?

No shakes anyways. I must not be part of your thread.

MuttleyLaff:
Bud, how do you mean by the red text?
What does it mean?

MuttleyLaff:
You asked an uneven question, knowing fully well that out there, for some, God and god(s) are quite distinct from each other

You've just proven my point about having uneven grounds and you putting out a question without minding others' distinction of God and god(s), is you presenting a one-legged stool and blatantly asking for all to just as it is, sit on it.

Emmanystone:
How dare anyone asked him to explain? Oh, i thought we were suppose to have a discussion(?). Sorry, i misunderstood.

MuttleyLaff:
Kk.
When I had same timeout on a different mobile figured maybe they are having a downtime for maintenance or something
Thanks.

MuttleyLaff:
You're right, because we live in a world of fantasy and reality, we have gods, that are human constructs,
Meanwhile other gods, are just as like, all God is about,
only that, these other gods, due to their essence(s), have their authority limited to each own's sphere of influence

Inanimate or not alive objects, deified and lying around at a shrine somwhere, obviously are in that list of yours
but doesnt the stomach or belly, the typical wacky-and-die glutton has deified make your list?
What of the beer, spirits, rum, alcohol etcetera, deified by drunks or alcoholics?
What of money deified by chrematistics?

In quest for their posts to make front page, throngs call out to the god of Nairaland
and/or try to invoke his angels, regularly sending prayer wishes to the heaven of Nairaland for all sort of favours?

You see, my friend, of all three, which will you accept as, the Good, the bad and the ugly

MuttleyLaff:
To start with, I am not comfortable sitting on your one-legged "What is god?" question
The ground is uneven, and in the absence of a plain level field, the three-legged stool was brought up
One leg is "What is God?"
Second leg is "What is god(s)?"
Third leg is "What is compare and contrast God with god(s)?"

Emmanystone:
How dare anyone asked him to explain? Oh, i thought we were suppose to have a discussion(?). Sorry, i misunderstood.